Topic: Could this be the reason why Satoshi never made himself known to the public? (Read 293 times)

When I was reading the ChatGPT's response, I felt as if I had read this someplace else before, and as I read further, I felt as if I knew the following statement or one similar to the one it offered that would follow up the answer. It has previously been said that this new technology can only interpret data that has already been submitted by people. It can't think for itself unless it gets information gathered from the internet. It's just a typical plagiarist who doesn't give credit to the original source of the information it provides.

Exactly and op is one of the reasons why I'm supporting Elon musk in the ban of AI because at the long run, I think that this AI is already making alot of people becoming more lazy and so dependent of robots to perform.their daily task.
I personally at some point don't see any reasons for people to practically ask ChatGPT unnecessary questions that could easily be Googled and expect to see some exceptional answers.
What ChatGPT does is to get the opinions of others on a topic and just summarize them to the simplest understandable term.
I've seen a post where ChatGPT had to spell it out that it has no personal feelings ad opinion.

The AI have just added the few response/reason. Going through the thread created years back we were able to see lot more possibilities for his anonymity, Why Satoshi Nakamoto Remains Anonymous. Nothing gonna make anything strange and for sure we're not gonna know who the real Satoshi Nakamoto. What's gonna happen on knowing his identity, just understand the good he had in his mind and support his innovation than analysing the reason behind his anonymity.

But when technology can be further developed to be more advanced, AI may detect or look for other information that can come from anywhere. And if that happens, maybe there will be a massive change in the world of technology and many people will depend on the use of AI. But before that happens, we still have to wait a few more years and in the meantime, we'd better look for the data through the sources we've used.

Exactly, AI is just a robot, and its data is completely provided by us. They cannot think and answer for us on their own, AI answers are also answered and recorded by humans. AI is only good for us looking for data, they should not be taken as trustworthy and trust completely what they say.

It's a reasonable answer.

The main difference of Bitcoin compared to similar alternatives at the time was decentralization

Have a look at this post from Satoshi: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source


Also worth noting this:


Note the I, as in, only a single person developed Bitcoin. Of course they were standing on the shoulders of giants with all the research and development done prior. That's how knowledge advances.

Correct and we also don't know whether he has long been revealed already and influences the network regardless, but as a new persona. Now he could still influence it anyway in terms market reactions when he were to start moving some of his coins. That would probably make the market quite nervous. But other than that the best you could do in his case it to actually leave the pseudonym Nakamoto behind and appear as some IT guy who is interested in the topic and contribute. There are a lot of names that would in theory be eligible.

Now there aren't many actors who would never move any coins when they are actually holding a million or even a bit more than that.

1. The actor is a dead actor and so can't move the coins anymore for obvious reasons (unobvious to us)
2. A multi-multi billionaire who has no financial incentive to move any coin yet, helping to push infrastructure and adoption with money he, she or they own without Bitcoin
3. A government that has enormously long-term plans and sufficient money to not ever be forced to touch those Bitcoin

I can't prove it of course, but I doubt that a private person from the middle class would have never touched the wallets at these prices. Some said that the private keys might be lost, but I think that someone who wrote the code for Bitcoin probably has some experience with storing keys securely and such that not all is lost even when a catastrophe happens.

Yes, there's no much difference on what GPT did give out such response considering that all of those had been mentioned out solely on this forum when it comes to those possible reasons on why Satoshis didnt show

up himself into the public.In speaking about on things into his mind, then he might not be expecting that the project that he had made out turned out to be this big.If ever he's still alive nowadays then for sure

he's seeing on how successful the project the he had made.It would really be just normal that he would be minding about his privacy for his safety and security knowing that the creation he made out is  something that
opposes centralization or government itself which its just common sense on what we are looking into.

Anything the ChatGPT communicates to you is simply information that has been stored on its server. This information was originally written by someone else, copied from the source material, and stored in the AI database. If you were to ask Google the same question, you might receive a similar answer, even if it's not exactly the same content. As for why Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin, remains anonymous, the image from the second paragraph provides some insight.

However, it's more likely that Satoshi chose to remain anonymous because they believed it was in the best interest of the Bitcoin network, try and compare the actions of Altcoin teams and their performance to what the Bitcoin community is doing on Bitcoin, you will gain a better understanding of why they made this decision.

The reasons for the anonymity and the departure of Satoshi have always attracted a lot of discussion, but the arguments have been the same since the days this happened, so ChatGPT is only repeating what anyone which has taken some time to think or read about the subject would have find out on their own, I do not know if it is just me but while it seems the world is marveled with what it can be accomplished with ChatGPT the more disappointed I feel about it, as it is not as if the answer it gave could not be found in a matter of seconds by anyone that took the time to make that query.

Those reasons stated by Chatgpt is just a gathered information of how people think why Satoshi hide his identity.  I am still neutral whether to agree or not on the information stated by Chatgpt since the AI software stated itself that it is unclear why Satoshi hide himself.



It is a valid point that no one knows the reason except the person behind Satoshi Nakamoto.  Anything that circulates on the internet are just rumor. I dare not to make any theory or speculation since any reason that I give will be a waste of time but I tend to believe of the rumor that Satoshi is not in this world anymore.

Exactly. After all, we know that ChatGPT only absorbs the ideas that has been fed to it, so it’s never a new thing for us. And it’s reason is just like the views from most of us, and only Satoshi knows the real reason why he suddenly left the spotlight. However, if you can say something from your own understanding, that would be much better than just to rely from this chatbot and ask the other members if they would agree or not.

Although ChatGPT can only generate responses based on the input given, the points raised are still valuable and cannot be ignored. However, the true reason behind Satoshi Nakamoto's actions remains unknown. Revealing himself would compromise the decentralization of the system, as he could potentially influence it at any time. It must be acknowledged that Satoshi is a brilliant mind who knows what he is doing. While we can express our opinions, the truth will remain unknown until Satoshi himself describes it.

There could be any reason behind Satoshi's disappear. We don't even know if Satoshi was a one person or a group of people, so, how can we discuss about the reasons?
1. If he was one person, he may disappeared because he wanted to make Bitcoin look truly decentralized.
2. He disappeared in order to protect himself from the government.
3. He disappeared because he was afraid that if he stayed public, a lot of people would threaten him or elites would try to abuse his influence and power in financial system.
4. He disappeared just for fun
5. He disappeared because he came up with a new altcoin idea and revealed himself there.
6. He probably died.

If Satoshi was a group of people, I believe a group of people wouldn't be able to keep a secret but:
1. Group decided to look like disappeared because it was actually a project of unknown government that wants to takeover financial system.
2. Group members killed each-other.
3. Depends on your fantasy, there can be made tons of conspiracy theories.

if satoshi was known bitcoin would have not success people would just consider it another research and dumb it.

people loves the anonymous idea. they will be more satisfied to deal with and trust an anonymous than someone they know they will doubt his capabilities.

All the information that chat gpt has given all this information is said in google. Chat GPT I don't think can discover anything new. Chat GPT turns and answers all the information related to human discussion. Satoshi Nakamatu He kept his identity a secret because he already knew his identity had to be kept secret. But I always respect this creation of his, through his creation, million million of people around the world are employed.

You know what is also possible: That Satoshi is incredibly ugly and has two noses and only one eye. For that reason he never leaves his house and would certainly not reveal his identity. (Irony off)

The two main reasons will probably be that he does not want to be forced by governments to interfere with bitcoin and also that he can live a happy live enjoying his money.

We do. It was in fact one of the theories that I thought to be very good, as not long after he disappeared there was a series of Tsunamis in Indonesia, Thailand and Japan. A lot of people died and their bodies were never recovered. If Satoshi lived in these areas, or went there for vacation, he might've died.
I feel like the choice to go into hiding at first was his own, but so many things can happen in 10 years, it's hard to say if he's alive at this point.

I don't think AI can figure out why Satoshi Nakamoto disappeared or hid because no one knows who Satoshi Nakamoto is. So I don't think AI can figure it out yet and AI only collects data circulating on the internet and processes it. So I don't agree with what was given by AI even though maybe AI has a point because we also don't know for sure. So we can let Satoshi hide and do whatever he does now.

This is one of the reasons why Satoshi himself hasn't shown his or her identity, but we don't know what the truth is because most of the comments or speculation online is the same as what ChatGPT shows. Only Satoshi knows the reason why he/she hides himself, but no matter the reason, let's focus more on Bitcoin, the beauty of his creation, and we should make use of it as it has brought us advantages as well as financial help.

@CryptoHeadlineNews, didn't you understand anything from your previous thread when it comes to AI? You want to appear smart, but if you can't think for yourself, no AI chat will help you with that...

The so called Intelligent AI doesn't seem intelligent or truthful. Satoshi never claimed he's anonymous, so, the AI needs to quite trying to force the idea that he's anonymous into humans head. It's clear the inventor called himself Satoshi Nakamoto and claimed he's from Japan, so a truthful or professional AI or human should always assume Satoshi is right until proven otherwise. Calling him pseudonymous while he already told you his name is like saying he is lying. Besides, no one has been able to conclusively prove that Satoshi Nakamoto is not his name.
I know couple of legendary Bitcoiners who probably use their real names, yet they encourage anonymity and they made themselves public, why should Satoshi  case be different?

It's honest and professional to say Satoshi Nakamoto is probably his true name rather than denying it outrightly as if Satoshi told the lying AI they are his pseudonyms. It wrong to conclude without concrete proofs.

Why did you ask AI?  

I gathered every Satoshi Nakamoto thread.
Satoshi Nakamoto leaked his real name and address but deleted it shortly. We still don't know who is (are) Satoshi Nakamoto. It is all we can know.

AI is not a truth finder

AI uses trends to use as answers. and so if there is a echo chamber of a fantasy AI will use it . thus continue the fantasy..

AI is only as good as the information that is available and all satoshi stories are based on random opinion of 99.99% of people that never interacted with him

Op you have f you were a committed reader in the forum, you would have seen good answer that are even more than ChatGPT answers. ChatGPT answers are just like repetition of many threads and comments. Without even using ChatGPT I know some of the reasons why Satoshi Nakamoto is anonymity even in this forum. He is with us here because Satoshi Nakamoto can not just create bitcoin and also create a website for it and leave the both inventions and be on his own. That never done in anywhere, he has to be here to monitor the system how is goes. That is why the system is working fine.

So your thread is not a new thread in the forum, I have seen similar threads in forum time without number. Op I may also ask you a question, why are you anonymous here? Is that your real identity? I believe some these answers from you will also answer your op questions.

Somehow no one considers the possibility that Satoshi could have just died, e.g. from a disease (let's say a coronavirus). So he might not have had time to reveal himself publicly, if he wanted to do so at all.

Of course it can't, ChatGPT just compiles all the info from the internet, it can't think, guess or make conclusions. The reason why is he anonymous will forever be hidden, unless he reveals himself, I don't think that speculating about it is worth our time.

ChatGPT, in my opinion, cannot know exactly where Satoshi Nakamoto has gone.  ChatGPT simply uses for its answers the information that was contained on the Internet on this issue until 2021. 

Satoshi Nakamoto was well aware that the most dangerous thing for his project is the human factor.  That is why he designed Bitcoin in such a way that it could function effectively without human intervention.  In some cryptocurrencies, certain issues are resolved by voting of the owners of coins or tokens.  There is nothing like this in the case of Bitcoin! 

I think that Satoshi Nakamoto initially decided that the first cryptocurrency should function without the participation of its creator.  Therefore, it is quite possible that he voluntarily stepped down from managing the Bitcoin project.  However, it is possible that he was killed.

I dare to disagree. It managed to answer the question very well and cover most angles. I'm satisfied with its answer while being a bitcoiner, so a person who is new to this should be too.

The main reasons that come to mind is:
He didn't want to be attacked by the government if bitcoin ever threatens its monetary policies. As the creator, he would be the weak point of the system, the way Vitalik is for ETH.
How many times these people, like Buterin, Hoskinson, Garlinghouse were targeted, commented on, sued even? The lack of founder that can become the target is one of the biggest strengths of bitcoin.

Another reason is that at some point he might want to retire and that would put unneeded pressure on bitcoin, the way Lee weakened LTC when he abandoned the project and sold his coins.

It seems that you do not know how ChatGPT or artificial intelligence in general works. It is not a magic tool that you can find answers to all the questions that humans are unable to arrange. And if he gives you an answer, it is just speculation and not facts or words of importance or scientific support.

There is no point in such questions and there is no meaning in such answers, and they are nothing more than guesses.

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with the data that you entered, it will be easy to identify you, so if you are concerned about your privacy, be more careful in the future

The topic is not about Satoshi's motive, it is about his identity, and the whitepaper does not say anything about Satoshi's identity or why he didn't want to be known personally as the one who created BTC.

But it is not difficult to guess around 10 or more reasons why Satoshi never made himself known, and many people have talked about this reasons for years, and that's how ChatGPT came up with its answers, there is nothing unique about answers you get from a chatbot.

Chatgpt can't answer us, it's just a man-made tool, the answer we get is just someone else's synthesized by the chatbot, so there's no guarantee what it says is true. I agree with what rikafip said, why don't you give your own opinion about Satoshi? You have to rely on the chatbot's answer. It is not divine and may give the exact answer we are looking for. I know it's useful to many people, but we shouldn't overuse Chatgpt. I don't even want to use it.

It looks like the OP is equating ChatGPT with some kind of super-smart that knows something no one else does. More proof of how AI is taking over the minds of people who rely on robots as their last resort
OP, ask where ChatGPT can get such answers. And in addition, ask how many bugs and incorrect answers this artificial creature gave.

Its answers are what most people posted on the internet and I think ChatGPT just summarizes all the closes answers for the average people to understand. As for the privacy of Bitcoin's creator Satoshi Nakamoto, no one really knows about his reasons for not wanting any publicity even his own face. If people really admire his work, it's best for them to leave him alone and stop tracking the answers of how he doesn't appear in public despite all of the fame and merits he earned all around the world.

Do we really need these kind of topics where people will dicuss what chatbot said about various topics?

Why don't you instead share yours own opinion about it rather than asking some chatbot what he has to say, like he can say anything other than what's been said many times before.

Since Satoshi is the inventor of bitcoin then we cannot predict the be precise about his motive than the ones stated on bitcoin whitepaper, which i believe should be the ultimate guide we all should work upon, alot of people have been coming out to claim that bitcoin is this abd that, but we rarely believe on what they give because Satoshi real personality couldn't have gone that way far as the behaved.

ChatGPT is not wrong. These are the reasons that people have always speculated about when it comes to Satoshi and I agree with them. There are also many other conspiracy theories as to the inventor of Bitcoin but these are the most logical. We know that logic does not answer all questions at every given point in time but I believe logic answers this particular question.
Bitcoin might have probably been easier to fight if the government can point to somebody as the creator or if the person or people that invented it were called "the owner(s)", then in that sense Bitcoin has lost its decentralized nature.

ChatGPT has only answered what everyone else is writing over and over again on the internet.
You can't say that there is anything new in his answer.

Everyone here knows the benefits of privacy, I tend to think that people who are interested in Bitcoin for reasons other than pure speculation don't need to think long and hard to come to the same thoughts as ChatGPT.

Today I just seem to be experimenting with the use of A.I, and a thought just came into my head that what if I ask ChatGPT what could possibly be the reason why the famous inventor of Bitcoin "Satoshi Nakamoto" never made himself known to the public and here is what ChatGPT has to say regarding this topic that has been a bone of contention on this forum for over a decade now.

So what have you to say about this, do you agree with ChatGPT or not?