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Hello everyone, thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge in the thread and I hope there will be something I can take and learn from your experience. It doesn't seem like it will take long to see this thread reach three page.

I don't know much about gambling and I have never gambled other than just because my friends influenced me to bet on sports betting ^{[not crypto betting]}. I enjoy it but not addicted to it. But now I have the urge to try to do it with crypto and that's why I started this thread. But not anytime soon as I haven't gambled in a long time even if it's only $1. So now I just want to read one by one the responses from all your experiences. Without much further ado, I'll lock the thread to prevent spam. Wink

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OP, if you want to gamble safely on a gambling site then make sure you don't use a VPN instead. Using a VPN by default goes against the site's rule and is never a good thing to do in the long run even if the site hasn't detected your behavior yet.

If you get those restriction from the site then you should look for another reputable site to use without using a VPN. It's much safer than having to gamble with the rule of the site you're breaking. I don't use TOR to gamble because I only gamble on sites that don't restrict my country. There are many, but make sure the reputation.

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Most of the gambling sites have restrictions over certain countries from registering there due to their licence and regulations but nit many gambling sites are still allowing the Tor or atleast the usage of VPN until the user is not using it to bypass any restrictions amd they just use it for privacy concerns. You can ask many gambling site owners or representatives of bitcointalk they let the people to access site via VPN but they will be monitored for any shady activities continuously.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on November 06, 2021, 09:51:16 AM

Some of the people want to really urge to play with that particular platform and some of them makes a bypass their country restriction which is not good at the same time, some of the platforms have their Terms and condition like restriction of not using a VPN's that might give them some ban or restriction from the platform itself as long as the platform does not have any restrictions with the use of the VPN just to play is its more ideal to play. Of course for another layer of security every time you change a VPN the platform request a new verification which is more hassle to do.

If using a vpn or tor will give you more trouble then why use it on a certain site in the first place? Some people just want to have trouble, well, I don't have a problem with playing on an online casino as long as you just want to have some fun but if you want to play just to make some money or suddenly hit the jackpot then that would be a problem since you are illegal already in the first place. So, don't ever think something to bend their decision, just accept what their decision if they gave you the money then it's okay if not then move on.

I would rather wait a playable online casino with no restrictions instead of trying to gamble my luck because of eagerness to play. I think there are playable casinos out there that doesn't have any restrictions, you just have to choose it carefully.

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Some of the people want to really urge to play with that particular platform and some of them makes a bypass their country restriction which is not good at the same time, some of the platforms have their Terms and condition like restriction of not using a VPN's that might give them some ban or restriction from the platform itself as long as the platform does not have any restrictions with the use of the VPN just to play is its more ideal to play. Of course for another layer of security every time you change a VPN the platform request a new verification which is more hassle to do.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

I just want to know if using a vpn or tor is something that can violate the TOS even though a gambler has been betting on the site for a long time?

I guess if the purpose is clean then it might not affect your account, but if you are using vpn or TOR to hide your location because you want to bypass the restriction, then obviously it's wong and it's a violation.

Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

If the site pays small wins, will they also pay big wins ^{[if the site detect the user is using vpn or tor].}

This should not be a question address in general as legit site does pay all winnings, regardless of the amount as long as gamblers are not cheating.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

There are many gambling sites that restrict the participation of users from certain countries to become customers on their sites. Obviously this is something that every gambler in the world does not want especially for those who like to gamble online ^{[crypto gambling].}

I think those people who are in restricted countries are already used to being prohibited at a global gambling site because, in the first place, online gambling might also be restricted in their regions. Gambling is only limited by their local gambling providers.

Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

One way to anticipate restrictions is to use a vpn or use the TOR browser. But in many TOS of gambling sites I found the site forbids users to use VPN although some customers so far have had no problem with the habit. I just want to know if using a vpn or tor is something that can violate the TOS even though a gambler has been betting on the site for a long time? If the site pays small wins, will they also pay big wins ^{[if the site detect the user is using vpn or tor].}

No matter how long the gambler is using the site and they are using VPN, as long as there are specific terms about restrictions of using VPN, they will be banned no matter what. Other users are careful at their activity when using VPN like for example, in case of withdrawals, big or not, they will do it by batches.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

I just want to know if using a vpn or tor is something that can violate the TOS even though a gambler has been betting on the site for a long time? If the site pays small wins, will they also pay big wins ^{[if the site detect the user is using vpn or tor].}

It's not that using VPN will violate right away the site's Terms of Service but of course, if it's prohibited on the site and clearly stated on their Terms of Service then the account will be banned once detected no matter how active that account is was gambling on that platform.

Most users don't read TOS that's why sometimes, everyone got surprises in the event their account was got banned. From now on, new users should look at the TOS regarding the use of VPN to avoid problems in the future.

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Quote from: Cling18 on November 06, 2021, 02:25:46 AM

Lots of gambling sites restrict the usage of VPNs for some reason. Some users could only abuse their promos and bonuses by creating multiple accounts using VPN which could only result in the site's losses. It's better to follow their TOS than to regret it later on. That's the reason why we're encouraged to read their TOS first upon signing up.

Multiple accounts would really need to require on having lots of IP's to be used for them not too be traced on on abusing website promotions and bonuses and this had been a common reason on most people do use of VPN or Tor for them to at least cover up their main address and take advantage of those bonuses and the rest do make use of VPN
for the sake of accessing sites which they are prohibited due to country restriction.If there is some talks about prohibitions then its understandable that you are really risking your account because you had violated their TOS which is normal that you could possibly be blocked.

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It's very simple to know if you violate the TOS, read the TOS, and if you don't follow the rules that means you have violated some of the rules that might lead to the closure of your funds. Gambling on a site for a long period of time does not excuse you, you have to understand the risk and it's better if you will just not force to gamble if it's prohibited in your country as you might only regret it later.

Some gambling sites do not react right away, but eventually, they'll see it and will close your account.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

There are many gambling sites that restrict the participation of users from certain countries to become customers on their sites. Obviously this is something that every gambler in the world does not want especially for those who like to gamble online ^{[crypto gambling].}

One way to anticipate restrictions is to use a vpn or use the TOR browser. But in many TOS of gambling sites I found the site forbids users to use VPN although some customers so far have had no problem with the habit. I just want to know if using a vpn or tor is something that can violate the TOS even though a gambler has been betting on the site for a long time? If the site pays small wins, will they also pay big wins ^{[if the site detect the user is using vpn or tor].}

Using VPNs or even TOR for gambling sites is nothing new. However, I would say that TOR is much too slow, which can spoil the fun. Gambling providers usually prohibit users from accessing them for legal reasons. If you bypass this block, then such providers can easily find out, because the servers of the VPN providers are often known and therefore it is easy for the gambling provider to detect whether you use VPNs. Most of the time they do nothing at first. But if you then have a larger win, for example, then the payout can be denied quickly with the argumentation of the violation of the TOS. You then also have no legal means to sue for this profit.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

I just want to know if using a vpn or tor is something that can violate the TOS even though a gambler has been betting on the site for a long time? If the site pays small wins, will they also pay big wins ^{[if the site detect the user is using vpn or tor].}

It is true that the use of VPN is prohibited by gambling site because they can be used by people who want to trick site for personal gain. Beside being able to be used to get recurring bonuses through fake account, using a VPN also allow site users to have multiple account with their own referral. This will clearly violate the site rule where everything has been stated in the terms and conditions. I assume that if the site pays out small wins for those using VPN, then they should also pay out big wins. But if they don't want to pay then the two wins don't have to be paid either.

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Every casino sites has T/C of course,logging on to a betting site what you do first is to check thier T/C and also some casinos have been frauded several times with VPN by accessing their general wallet and crediting thier individual wallets with cash then withdrawing the funds.
It promotes fraudulent a times to casinos that don't have good cyber securities

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The restrictions of using VPN-s are in place because of people abusing the site with becoming referrals of themselves and getting the bonuses in an abusive way.

However having said that,I always use VPN when accessing Sportsbet.io website because my country is not allowed but I always use the same country and the same IP,so far no one has abused this IP and I play,deposit and withdraw normally there through VPN,so it all depends on what you want to do and of course your luck.It is always better to change to another casino which doesn't require from you to use a VPN and your country is not restricted.

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Quote from: Cling18 on November 06, 2021, 02:25:46 AM

Lots of gambling sites restrict the usage of VPNs for some reason. Some users could only abuse their promos and bonuses by creating multiple accounts using VPN which could only result in the site's losses. It's better to follow their TOS than to regret it later on. That's the reason why we're encouraged to read their TOS first upon signing up.

Honestly, for that reason, I don't understand how it became an advantage for multiple accounts.

In most cases, bonuses need a required investment. For me, it's kind of super effort if the user will put deposits at those newly created accounts until they will get the bonuses. Looking at some gambling sites today, not worth the effort to abuse it.

But yes, maybe if there's a new site that has a unique promotion and is easy to achieve, that might work. But today, newly created gambling sites are having difficult getting an attention so it's also a risk for those who want to abuse the promotions that needed an investment.

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Some crypto gambling websites allow users to use VPN but some others prohibit that. If you find that site prohibits VPN, you should move to the other recommended crypto gambling site and not try to register on that site because you will not know if your account will get banned by them if they know you use VPN.

We, as a user, have a free will to gamble on the crypto gambling site and we have many crypto gambling sites that have the rules that we want. We can choose by ourselves by researching every website we get and reading the review from here or another website.

It is better to avoid violating the TOS because it makes our account banned or blocked by the casino.

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Lots of gambling sites restrict the usage of VPNs for some reason. Some users could only abuse their promos and bonuses by creating multiple accounts using VPN which could only result in the site's losses. It's better to follow their TOS than to regret it later on. That's the reason why we're encouraged to read their TOS first upon signing up.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on November 06, 2021, 01:00:21 AM

For me, using a VPN is not a solution to be able to play at the casino. I would prefer to use a casino that doesn't really need to use a VPN. Perhaps because many of the gamblers have paid attention to gamblers not to force gambling on sites that access them using a VPN. just because of the country where I live and insist on using a VPN then I will leave. Except when we are required to register at the casino to receive a certain reward from the tasks I do. So like it or not, I have to take advantage of it.

Honestly, even a gambling site allows the use of a VPN, some of its users still use VPN instead of their direct ISP connection. That's because there are lots of reasons why users prefer that way.

For what are those reasons, only them knows.

So let's put it this way if a gambling site is not allowing the use of a VPN or TOR network, obviously don't violate it. If they allowed it, then we are good to go.

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For me, using a VPN is not a solution to be able to play at the casino. I would prefer to use a casino that doesn't really need to use a VPN. Perhaps because many of the gamblers have paid attention to gamblers not to force gambling on sites that access them using a VPN. just because of the country where I live and insist on using a VPN then I will leave. Except when we are required to register at the casino to receive a certain reward from the tasks I do. So like it or not, I have to take advantage of it.

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Violating their TOS is a serious offense that could lead to either your account getting banned or restriction on withdrawal, meaning, your funds is at risk when you violates their TOS which you don't want to happen if you wanted to happily withdraw your profits on a certain gambling sites, but if you are just experimenting to know what's gonna happen, then I guess it's perfectly fine as long as you're just gonna deposit a very small amount of money.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

One way to anticipate restrictions is to use a vpn or use the TOR browser. But in many TOS of gambling sites I found the site forbids users to use VPN although some customers so far have had no problem with the habit. I just want to know if using a vpn or tor is something that can violate the TOS even though a gambler has been betting on the site for a long time? If the site pays small wins, will they also pay big wins ^{[if the site detect the user is using vpn or tor].}

The first thing to do after opening a betting site or if possible to do before opening a betting site is to read their terms and conditions of their services, not reading it has got some people into trouble.

If vpn or tor are forbidden in a gambling site terms and conditions, then why using it? Either the use of vpn or tor will not work when visiting their site or if it works, then it can lead to suspicion.

Just abide to the terms and conditions of any centralized sites you send your funds to for the funds not to be seized.

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Yes, most ToS forbids the use of VPN, but hey, most people have that mindset of if you don't get caught then it's not really a huge issue. They can't stop the usage of VPNs by users and honestly, I don't think they can actually even discover them unless the user themselves slip up and reveal that they use VPNs (or reveal that they live in that certain country). VPN's are something that is very useful and wouldn't necessarily reveal that you're using one, after all, that kind of defeats the purpose of using VPNs. Just use a legitimate one imo to make sure you won't get hacked/scammed.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

There are many gambling sites that restrict the participation of users from certain countries to become customers on their sites. Obviously this is something that every gambler in the world does not want especially for those who like to gamble online ^{[crypto gambling].}

One way to anticipate restrictions is to use a vpn or use the TOR browser. But in many TOS of gambling sites I found the site forbids users to use VPN although some customers so far have had no problem with the habit. I just want to know if using a vpn or tor is something that can violate the TOS even though a gambler has been betting on the site for a long time? If the site pays small wins, will they also pay big wins ^{[if the site detect the user is using vpn or tor].}

for sure it's something that should violate the TOS, because if there is a restriction for players from certain countries, using any tool to circumvent it, ends up going against the wishes of the site owners, and should be punished.
You need to keep in mind that if you win a big bet, most likely your account will be verified manually, the VPN could be discovered and you won't be able to cash out your winnings, and your account will be banned forever.

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My experience is that yes, most ToS outright forbids the use of VPNs.

However, in practice, most sites acknowledge implicitly that people will use VPNs and there is nothing they can do to stop this from happening. And you could argue that it is in their best interests to allow the use of VPNs so they get more gaming volume.

So I don't think that it's a huge issue if you need to circumvent a country ban using a VPN. Just make sure you're not playing with too much balance.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

I just want to know if using a vpn or tor is something that can violate the TOS even though a gambler has been betting on the site for a long time?

No excuses. If there's a term about using VPN is prohibited, that was violating a Terms of Service. In the case a gambler is betting on it for a long time and has not detected yet that the user is using a VPN, then the site is free to use by them until noticed.

In the event they got detected, being a long-time gambler on that site can't be applied.

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Rules are rules. That's why gambling sites have it on their Terms of Service (TOS), they are doing business so they are also complying with the government, they will not sacrifice their business for the short term, that's why I hate those people who are crying after their funds locked to the platform because they violate some terms from the platform.

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You must be very careful on using VPN and make sure not to put huge money on that because the casinos might caught you and you might be required by other requirements to get back your account. Many are taking risk to use VPN, know your limit on this and don’t be greedy because anything can happen especially you break the rules and playing against the ToS of that site.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

There are many gambling sites that restrict the participation of users from certain countries to become customers on their sites. Obviously this is something that every gambler in the world does not want especially for those who like to gamble online ^{[crypto gambling].}

One way to anticipate restrictions is to use a vpn or use the TOR browser. But in many TOS of gambling sites I found the site forbids users to use VPN although some customers so far have had no problem with the habit. I just want to know if using a vpn or tor is something that can violate the TOS even though a gambler has been betting on the site for a long time? If the site pays small wins, will they also pay big wins ^{[if the site detect the user is using vpn or tor].}

This is my first thread on a gambling board so please don't post just to increase the post count and your answer is greatly appreciated if it is based on your experience so far.

If you use a VPN and the site that you play at states on their terms of services that you can't use VPN, then they have the right to confiscate your funds and close your account. Now you are going to say "why did they let me play? Why are they blocking me after winning?". They can't check each and every user and know if they are breaking their terms or not. Lots of people play and register and once, but only few tries to withdraw. Some withdrawals go through manual check (if you are unlucky) and that's how they find out if you broke their ToS or not. Even if you don't get caught, once you get flagged for KYC, you won't be able to pass and you will lose your funds. But if you are at profit, most casino will allow you to withdraw your deposit.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on November 05, 2021, 03:04:17 PM

dedicated IP rather than using a random VPN or proxy that provides you with dynamic IP whenever you log in.

Yeah, this is another way to deanonymize user: because hosting providers and many VPN services has dynamic IP, site can see that this IP is used by someone who using VPN/hosting. And with such information it will be enough to ban you if such needs will occur.

But in some VPN providers you can buy static IP, yep.

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Quote from: romero121 on November 05, 2021, 01:43:15 PM

Every gambling site have got its own terms of service.
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^ That is a perfect answer, each gambling casino has different TOS content it means they have different rules and agreements between the users. If you are not in hurry, it should be perfect if you will spend your time first reading the TOS before picking up a good gambling site. Because I never heard a gambling site that their user it allow using VPN and TOR. Before it is too late to blame yourself, start reading if there is a gambling site that is like that, of course, can avoid the possible problem. I understand people that want to protect their privacy but it does not mean it is okay to use VPN, probably the best thing is to follow what is the TOS. Nevertheless, OP welcome to the gambling community.

Most gamblers does have the impression that everything is really just the same in terms of those conditions and rules on most sites which i cant really deny

on because they do only differ most of the time in country restriction and some few tweaks of personal prohibition and the rest were just the same thats why people are not really minding much on reading it over.

Tor or Vpn is something that is prohibited on some sites and its normal that you would be following it.

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Quote from: romero121 on November 05, 2021, 01:43:15 PM

Every gambling site have got its own terms of service.
~snip~

^ That is a perfect answer, each gambling casino has different TOS content it means they have different rules and agreements between the users. If you are not in hurry, it should be perfect if you will spend your time first reading the TOS before picking up a good gambling site. Because I never heard a gambling site that their user it allow using VPN and TOR. Before it is too late to blame yourself, start reading if there is a gambling site that is like that, of course, can avoid the possible problem. I understand people that want to protect their privacy but it does not mean it is okay to use VPN, probably the best thing is to follow what is the TOS. Nevertheless, OP welcome to the gambling community.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on November 05, 2021, 02:42:53 PM

Yes.

One thing of this shit T&C, the casino still accepted and let you play even you're using VPN because just using a small balance. Now, the big problem is while you win a lot money more than a thousand dollars. There has some chance your account got blocked, due to restricted country + using VPN that's one of sketchy thing for casino still accepted a user with VPN even we all know based on their T&C is can't be use.

You don’t have any legal battle if you win big on that casinos and still using VPN because in the first place, that is the rules and you break that rules. There’s too much risk on VPN, this is not worth it and I’ll not do this if ever I gamble with big money, the casino can freeze any time your account especially if you violated their ToS.

Some don't have the problem of using VPN yet because maybe they are winning small amount of money, but when you win big, that's when most casinos will manually check your account and find reasons not to pay your winnings. And most of the time, if you are using VPN and it is against their rules, they have very good reason to freeze your funds. You will not win on this case, even if we say, they accepted your deposit knowing you are using VPN, because they are holding your funds. The least thing they can do is maybe return your initial deposit and not your winnings, and then, block your account. But don't expect that every casino will return your initial deposit. Because there are some conditions that they have all the right to confiscate your funds if you violated their ToS. So for me, just don't play on casinos with restrictions on this matter.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on November 05, 2021, 02:42:53 PM

Yes.

One thing of this shit T&C, the casino still accepted and let you play even you're using VPN because just using a small balance. Now, the big problem is while you win a lot money more than a thousand dollars. There has some chance your account got blocked, due to restricted country + using VPN that's one of sketchy thing for casino still accepted a user with VPN even we all know based on their T&C is can't be use.

You don’t have any legal battle if you win big on that casinos and still using VPN because in the first place, that is the rules and you break that rules. There’s too much risk on VPN, this is not worth it and I’ll not do this if ever I gamble with big money, the casino can freeze any time your account especially if you violated their ToS.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

One way to anticipate restrictions is to use a vpn or use the TOR browser. But in many TOS of gambling sites I found the site forbids users to use VPN although some customers so far have had no problem with the habit.

I understand your eagerness to gamble but to take such risk is not worth it for sure especially if you are going to gamble with huge money so cracking the system will never make you safe. Why not look for a gambling site that is available in your country to avoid any problem in the future, restrictions are always there you just need to find a good site that will work for you.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

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this is an interesting question

I live in a country where all gambling activities are banned and I have been using a VPN for a long time to play on my favorite gambling site
and so far I haven't had any major problems using a VPN even when I won thousands of dollars from the jackpot

but I don't know if those who win over $10k will get in trouble for using a VPN or not!

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Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

One way to anticipate restrictions is to use a vpn or use the TOR browser. But in many TOS of gambling sites I found the site forbids users to use VPN although some customers so far have had no problem with the habit. I just want to know if using a vpn or tor is something that can violate the TOS even though a gambler has been betting on the site for a long time? If the site pays small wins, will they also pay big wins ^{[if the site detect the user is using vpn or tor].}

If a website is restricting a certain country you cannot expect them to pay you when you play and win big using a proxy, it will be against their policy even though you are a long term user. If a site is not forcing you to undergo mandatory KYC then you can overcome these restriction by purchasing a dedicated IP rather than using a random VPN or proxy that provides you with dynamic IP whenever you log in.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on November 05, 2021, 02:42:53 PM

Yes.

One thing of this shit T&C, the casino still accepted and let you play even you're using VPN because just using a small balance. Now, the big problem is while you win a lot money more than a thousand dollars. There has some chance your account got blocked, due to restricted country + using VPN that's one of sketchy thing for casino still accepted a user with VPN even we all know based on their T&C is can't be use.

So it's true that even I did something like this in the TOS rules saying it's forbidden to use a VPN but I used and made small deposits/withdrawals it's fine there is no problem even though it's prohibited in the TOS and the team is like letting small users do VPN or TOR.
On the other hand, I have never won over $1000 when using a VPN and of course I will know the consequences by blocking the account and withholding the funds won, but it is still a risk where when you are very lucky when using a VPN you may have to give up the funds on hold. by the team because it will be checked further.

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Yes.

One thing of this shit T&C, the casino still accepted and let you play even you're using VPN because just using a small balance. Now, the big problem is while you win a lot money more than a thousand dollars. There has some chance your account got blocked, due to restricted country + using VPN that's one of sketchy thing for casino still accepted a user with VPN even we all know based on their T&C is can't be use.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

There are many gambling sites that restrict the participation of users from certain countries to become customers on their sites. Obviously this is something that every gambler in the world does not want especially for those who like to gamble online ^{[crypto gambling].}

One way to anticipate restrictions is to use a vpn or use the TOR browser. But in many TOS of gambling sites I found the site forbids users to use VPN although some customers so far have had no problem with the habit. I just want to know if using a vpn or tor is something that can violate the TOS even though a gambler has been betting on the site for a long time? If the site pays small wins, will they also pay big wins ^{[if the site detect the user is using vpn or tor].}

This is my first thread on a gambling board so please don't post just to increase the post count and your answer is greatly appreciated if it is based on your experience so far.

Violation would always be a violation and that would be having corresponding consequences on that one one the casino had seen out that you are violating the terms and conditions but as mentioned above that there were users are still playing without any problems despite of using VPN which i could say that
the time might not be now but once you had won something big then this is where problems might rise or would be possibly dig up and since you do
know that you had violated on the first poace then you wouldnt really make any complaints for sure.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

There are many gambling sites that restrict the participation of users from certain countries to become customers on their sites. Obviously this is something that every gambler in the world does not want especially for those who like to gamble online ^{[crypto gambling].}

One way to anticipate restrictions is to use a vpn or use the TOR browser. But in many TOS of gambling sites I found the site forbids users to use VPN although some customers so far have had no problem with the habit. I just want to know if using a vpn or tor is something that can violate the TOS even though a gambler has been betting on the site for a long time? If the site pays small wins, will they also pay big wins ^{[if the site detect the user is using vpn or tor].}

This is my first thread on a gambling board so please don't post just to increase the post count and your answer is greatly appreciated if it is based on your experience so far.

Unfortunately, violation of any regulations may have consequences. It probably depends on the owner how restrictive he is when checking such details. If the casino wants to take advantage of the law guaranteed by the regulations, I am affraid that there is a high risk that you will lose money.
In my opinion, it's better not to risk unnecessarily. At the moment, there are a lot of casinos on the market and you can certainly find one whose regulations allow players from a given country.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

I just want to know if using a vpn or tor is something that can violate the TOS even though a gambler has been betting on the site for a long time? If the site pays small wins, will they also pay big wins ^{[if the site detect the user is using vpn or tor].}

I am using VPN for some casinos, but only when I want to play Pragmatic slots! I am using some free one, and I am turning it on and off, sometimes it can be very slow, or will not load the slot page at all... I guess it's because of the bad free VPN, or maybe it's the casino, I really can't tell! I never tried some good VPN, I had the desire to pay for it, but then I found fun in some other providers and I just moved that to some other time!

I quoted this part for a reason... My deposits/withdrawals are in hundreds of dollars, maybe I had a few withdrawals over $1k, and I never had problems with any casino where I am using VPN! But I can't claim that in a case of some big win (if that happens at all?!) they will not use some ToS rule and say how I can't get a prize because of this...

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Quote from: _BlackStar on November 05, 2021, 01:20:01 PM

I just want to know if using a vpn or tor is something that can violate the TOS even though a gambler has been betting on the site for a long time? If the site pays small wins, will they also pay big wins ^{[if the site detect the user is using vpn or tor].}

If you're using VPN or TOR and such things forbidden in some gambling site they can use it in case of some disputes between you and site. Noone will block you just for using VPN, because there a lot of gambling sites and not so much users who gamble on them. So site is interested to keep you as long as it can. But if you hit jackpot, in that case i think they try to use their ToS against you.

So use canvas blocker + VPN, in that case site will don't know that you're using VPN (for honest, there still ways to catch you on using VPN). With TOR it's a lot more complicated, because it's protocol is visible to any site.

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Every gambling site have got its own terms of service. It is a must to follow the tos and spend, because there occurs a scenario of withdrawal under hold. When we request support we'll get notified to read the tos, and indicate that we've violated the tos.

There are sites that provide the users with mirror URL with which we can enter the gambling platform when access is denied. This support facility is available with specific gambling platforms. Here there is no need of vpn to enter the platform when we're using the mirror URL.

It is possible to see lots and lots of scam accusation against different gambling platforms. Majority of the accusations were of withdrawal hold. In this case we can't get to conclusion. Because the user demands withdrawal, stating previously he had been withdrawing the funds and why now my fund is under hold. It happens, because the platforms allow small fund withdrawal. When the amount is big, they use it a way to keep the fund under hold and make his spend it.

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There are many gambling sites that restrict the participation of users from certain countries to become customers on their sites. Obviously this is something that every gambler in the world does not want especially for those who like to gamble online ^{[crypto gambling].}

One way to anticipate restrictions is to use a vpn or use the TOR browser. But in many TOS of gambling sites I found the site forbids users to use VPN although some customers so far have had no problem with the habit. I just want to know if using a vpn or tor is something that can violate the TOS even though a gambler has been betting on the site for a long time? If the site pays small wins, will they also pay big wins ^{[if the site detect the user is using vpn or tor].}

This is my first thread on a gambling board so please don't post just to increase the post count and your answer is greatly appreciated if it is based on your experience so far.

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