Topic: Courtsiding from a scout (dictation) (Read 972 times)

Hello i am working courtside tennis for 10years now and its my private job. I was first working only ITF small tournaments where there were slow refferies because i needed like 5seconds to acept bet before bookies changed odds. So yes tennis is best sport to work CS. Now i am working only Grn and slams(Australian open,French Open,Wimbledoon and US Open and some ATP1000 series. The bigger the tournament bigger limits and payouts are comming because alot of people are gambling on those events so you can Stay under the radar. I was scout before going to events but now i work from home from computers and other people are scouting for me throught program where they click a button and i get a mouse click to place bet.... You cant lose a bet ... but there are just like 2-4 refferes on that level tournaments that we are working on because of the delay they provide to us. others are quite fast and we need 4s-5s depend on bookies . We use different bookies but am alsaw looking for betting accounts and people that can work with me because you need to know what to do and how so anyone interested in courtsiding can DM me i can give you the clicker if you know how to place bets live in play on different markets because from my location there are only few bookies that i can work on.... if anyone is interested DM me i can provide you to try work for free and then decide % you need to pay to work on... We are starting in january 2025.... Cheers

Hi. You are still doing this ?

Don't waste your time with this guy.

Its true that he is knowledgeable in the 'dictation service' but he is 100% not reliable. Will always ask you for money and then make up random excuses why he can't attend the matches.

There are plenty of other services out there who offer the same work as he does, so I would advise you to use these instead of this timewaster.

Hi dont work with this guy he is scammer , I pay him and he lie me 2 weeks , he dont answer me or if he answer me he lie me that he will send me back my money but he didnt.
I have screenshot of everything ,dont lose your money

Good afternoon. I was on vacation. What is your telegram?

I have never ignored, probably I was not online.

I have an open profile and you can always see when I was online.

VERY IMPORTANT

Please, do not contact me if you didnt read this topic. Please do not ask for free games, and do not ask me WHICH COUNTRIES I AM WORKING WITH.

I live in Sweden, I drive mostly in this country, just sometimes Denmark and Norway! Show some respect, lets not waste time of each other.

As games in many leagues are on pause now (soccer), HOCKEY is on, games are almost every 2-3 days.

If you have experience, contact me and lets work.

PS I am always ok with an audio call to discuss details, I am not hiding or smth else.

Hi, guys! Hockey is back, football also, lets work, my telegram is @mmbearr

BUT PLEASE, read the topic! Do not contact me, ask a lot of questions, and say in the end that price is too much for you or smth.

I DO NOT INTERMEDIATE; I DRIVE MYSELF, I dictate only in English.

Hello to anyone!

Weekend is here, and there are TWO games with delay, I know it for sure.

PLEASE, do not contact me to tell me you are pro, making thousands and asking for test game.

I wrote a lot of times, no free games, I drive always myself, I do not intermediate!

Price is 135 USDT or 125 EUR.

If you are really not amateur and want to work, let’s do it.

My telegram is @mmbearr

hey I have been courtsiding for a while and would love to connect with you

my telegram is pa19976

Weekend is ”here” so there are few pretty games, and not too far from me (300 km)

Lets work. Please read carefully the topic, so we will not waste the time of each other.

PS Friendly hockey matches have also started. You are welcome.

I want to remind anyone, I do not intermediate anything! I drive myself to all the games.

Hello, guys. I have got involved in a car accident and went to hospital for few weeks.

All good now, I am back!

And some good news - hockey also starts in few days here in Sweden.

Let’s work and make some money - @mmbearr - this is my TELEGRAM

PLEASE, write me if you have read the topic, no free games of “I need a test”. Thanks!

I'd be interested to work with you. I've attended many live events and court sided myself, and have access to live streams for betting purposes that are indeed quicker than the bookmakers I am using.

What sort of events are you attending? As for me, watching low league football for 90 minutes doesn't feel like the best use of my time for a little bit of EV

Interested to work with you, added on TG.

Hi, dear people 

It was a pause here in Sweden due to EUR, but local teams are back, so I am planning to attend few games this weekend.

If you are serious - lets work!

My tg @mmbearr

PS No free games, no tests. I dictate in English, and I drive only to the venues with delay.

Lets work 

Hello, my friends

I know it is EURO, but do not loose your money for nothing

I am back again. In 2 days there is next game.

You can find my telegram above.

PS PLEASE ONLY SERIOUS PEOPLE

Please contact me im interested in courtsiding

In 2 days is the next game

Be adviced that there no games every day, exactly because of that I post here sometimes

PS In 2 weeks - tennis 🎾

All my contacts are written in this topic, I am sure you can find them

Hi to anyone. We worked good last week, and today and tomorrow I am planning to attend few games.

Please read carefully previous messages in this topic.

If you are ready for a serious work - my telegram @mmbearr

I always dictate in English

Hello, my friends.

Tomorrow is a new game, if you are interested - welcome.

Please read the topic or at least last posts to understand the terms.

My telegram is @mmbearr

PS Even if the score is 0-0 you can make money 💰

Hello, guys. Here are some proofs from my dictate that was yesterday. The bets were placed on a bookie from USA 

https://ibb.co/Kh9KV7F
https://ibb.co/ngxQRgc

The next game is in 1 day!

IMPORTANT: The price is 125 EUR (in crypto) per game. I take 4 people max. Please write me only if you have experience. Do not waste my time with a lot of questions for 2 hours and in the end ask for a free game.

I DO NOT PROVIDE FREE GAMES! People who are asking for this are just children.  Respect yourself, please!

My telegram @mmbearr

VERY IMPORTANT

- next match in 2 days, serious people are welcomed
- no tests! This is 5th time I write it here, and people still are contacting me, asking questions 2 hours straight and in the end ask for a free game. I did these many times at beginning, now - not. People usually do not act serious when have it for free. When it was goal, suddenly he wasn’t expected, was in the toilet or opening door for delivery guy with pizza. Cmon
- price is 125 EUR

My tg @mmbearr

Please let’s act like grown men and do not waste time or each other

Thanks 🙏

Good afternoon, guys!

As I said, football is on, the next match is tomorrow!

PS No games for tests. Please, write me only if you are serious. My tg @mmbearr

Look what a individual…Because of such *** there are no more tests

Check the picture. Guy was asking me 2 days when is match, he is ready to work, pay, he has experience. And when I started to drive - just disappeared.

https://ibb.co/QYnmzpC

Hello to anyone. Hockey will be for 3 more weeks just and football starts tomorrow.

There are good games these weekend.

Only serious people! Let’s work and make money 💰

A game is today, with good delay! Hockey!

All the info you have in my other posts.

The next one - tomorrow 

Today I will drive again, so serious people are always welcomed.

They play every 2 days now because they have started play-off games.

PS I dictate in English.

Hello, I am working as usual.

Tomorrow is the next match, here are some proofs.

125 EUR is the cost. PLEASE READ carefully all the topic.

My telegram is @mmbearr

https://ibb.co/6s0fxXB
https://ibb.co/BcJm0dG

Hi all. Yesterday there was a good match with a delay, today there were scouts from bookies everywhere and there was no point in going, but tomorrow, Friday, I plan to go and dictate again.

If you are interested in high-quality matches where the lag is more than 8 seconds, write me on Telegram mmbearr

PS I want to work with serious people. If 125 euros is a problem for you, don’t ask me questions for 2 hours and then say that you can’t work tomorrow because you’re busy.

Everyone else is welcome.

Hello anyone, today I am planning to drive again to the match!

And in 2 days I will attend also football matches.

Tomorrow is the next match.

From the next week I will attend also football friendly matches.  No scouts, good delay

Hi, I went to holiday for few weeks, now I am back.

The next match in tomorrow and within 1 week I will start to work also with volleyball.

PS There is delay even on bet365.

Just write me on telegram @mmbearr and we can discuss all the details.

In 2 months the football seasons starts here in Sweden.

Honest review:
Honest, experienced, trustworthy. My recommendations.

Friends, hello everyone! Just as I went to different arenas, I still go and dictate.

Please do not pay attention to these commentators with signatures from bookmakers. They are from the “other camp”, the main thing for them is to find out the bad arenas so they can immediately suck up to the bookmakers. None of them wrote to me that they want to try (although the test is free), they just write here for the quantity.

And now the most important thing - if you have experience and you understand what this topic is about - write to me or leave your contacts. I'm sure we'll work together.

Has anyone connected with OP on this?

Hi there,

I sent you a PM!

Thanks!

I said that the test is free. You can just listen, DO NOT BET, or bet 2 euros to check the timing and delay, and then it will be up to you to decide.

Are you guys generally “in this topic” or bet 20 euros per bet? 1.1? The guy above asked why there were only 5-6 people. My friend, come you and 20 people, create a total amount, pay me and listen. Just because of this, don’t complain about the return of your bet with the odds. 1.

Yeah I have these same questions.  Also, why would you only take 5-6 customers, versus many more? Also, the live court odd changes happen in seconds, there would be no easy way to communicate with you fast enough to be able to make the changes in a timely fashion.

I'm pretty skeptical about this.  I'd like to see some proven data that shows this "service' is worth our time and money.

Yes, I did read the topic. Here's the thing - people are skeptical by nature.  There's like a bazillion ways to scam someone, it doesn't even have to involve askin for money upfront.  Just think about it - say some guy hires you for your service and puts a crap ton of his cash into a bet based on your info.  but then it turns out you were full of it and the info was fake? 

I'm just sayin', anytime there's money involved, people get weird about trust.  So you gotta figure out how to convince potential customers youre legit especially in this biz, ya know? Maybe references or testimonials or something.

Hello. Did you read the topic? I said many many times I do not ask any money upfront. So you propose to use escrow service FOR WHAT? From my point of view

It's not about whether some members with long membership status can be trusted here; it's about whether you can be trusted! Trust is a two-way street in any community.

Write me a PM with your telegram. Today is the match.

in the last sentence you are referring to me? LOL

Ok you have "explained" some questions, but if the answer isn't clear... it's a public forum anyone can ask / you're free to reply. It sound strange that you're offering such great offer when you can just exploit by yourself by the way you don't need to explain nothing...

If you don't want escrow is your problem not mine. for sure you're exposing to scam...

last post on this topic, enjoy your time and your bets.

So you yourself re-read this topic - I still remain quite calm.

I explained twice that I don’t bet because it’s difficult. I don’t have “limited” accounts, I don’t have any accounts at all. I also wrote that I myself am a scout. Why ask the same questions?

About the escrow - I wrote more than 3 times that I do not ask for money in advance. So here you still insist on a escrow. For what? It's up to me to decide.

It really seems that a lot of people are posting here just for stats.

yes that is related, that's a point!
I am asking because even in the same bookmaker there are no the same market condition for all games. Short answer.
If you have enough experience with exchange bets (betfair) you know what I am talking .... if not, that's ok.

Last but not least, it's common practice ask questions to an user that offer a service, and please stay calm, we are just trying to sort it out, put everything in good order and understand all "requirements and agreements".


escrow is a must since protect both sides of this agreement.
regarding the last point, probably he has already some accounts limited ... or/and this is a profitable business ....

So pay you in an irreversible payment and trust you give out good advise.  Do you accept escrow and you might actually need to promote this in services too.  Might get some hits that way.  I'm not familiar with this kind of service is this for big swings in odds based on, on location information?  Why not just make the bets yourself if you get that type of info?

I can fly to another country, but usually only for a certain tournament. I mainly work in Scandinavia. And I am using discord, BUT, why are you asking? How the platform is related to this topic?

I don't understand why we are discussing this at all. I already said that we are talking about professional leagues; matches are available in almost all bookmakers.

I ask everyone to communicate strictly to the point, without flooding. I think I have answered all the questions.

this means that you travel in "Europe"? EU? some specific country?
I am asking because if someone want join your offer it must checked before the market condition on gambling platform.
what platform you use to send such data? (telegram? other chat?)

well, this is a really "pro" attitude to gambling. some years ago it was "common" to bet on that way and some people has done a living on it (even if it can be really expensive follow matches live due traveling expenses...) just imagine an horse that is going to win but has an accident on the last hurdle (a sure-lay bet with 1.01...)
probably nowadays very few people are aware of that and moreover there are just few markets/events/bookmakers that are profitable with this strategy...

Now I'll tell you. I mainly work with hockey, football, volleyball and tennis.

It all depends not on the sport, but on the arena. Only 1 day before the game I know which match I will go to. Let's imagine you and 3 other people are interested. I am writing to you: “in 2 days there are matches in bad arenas. Tomorrow I will check the scouts and at which match he is not there, I will go there.” Here's how it works.

That is, it all depends on the arena, equipment and the presence of scouts. If the stadium is new, with modern technology, even if there is no scout, the delay will be 5 seconds (small). I don't go to such matches.

And regarding the fact that everyone here is afraid of scams - what do I have to do with it? I answer all questions in detail and do not ask for any money in advance.

PS Thanks for “merit”. I have appreciated it.

First of all, thanks for explanations and clarifications.
Moreover, are you able to provide "upfront" in which game you can be able to bet?
Have you tried to bet in this way? (You send suggestion to gambler and not you bet by yourself)?
Have you noticed some event or some sport where it was easy apply this way of bets?

Last but not least.
Don't blame users, unfortunately most of them are not aware of that type of bettings and they believe this is a sort of scam (likewise fixed results etc etc)... we have seen TONS of scams related to gambling and everyone has a this approach....

I am doing the same sometimes. Last week I was also in Paris at ATP Masters.

I don’t want to seem rude, but it seems that some people in this topic are simply “posting here” for the number of messages, since they need to advertise different bookmakers in their signature.

I would like to note to all potential clients - NONE OF THOSE WHO WRITE ABOVE HAVE WORKED WITH ME. I've already answered many of the questions, but let's try again:
- this is not a magic pill, after several such bets the bookmaker will “cut” your maximum bet, or increase the timer for accepting a bet. You will need to look for other accounts or sites. But all these are SURE bets, you bet on something already have happened.
- I don’t bet this way, because it’s difficult to both follow the game and constantly change the “bet” when one or the other team is attacking
- regarding “proofs” - dear friends, if you have a bookmaker who FASTLY accepts a bet and pays out STABLE - you will not show any screenshot, since you are not interested in other people betting on this site
- regarding SCAM - this is very funny, I wrote several times that I DO NOT DEMAND PAYMENT IN ADVANCE. That’s why I say, the people who write here (many) have no idea about this topic. I suggested to them several times that they try it for free for review - it’s more important for them to write a post and get $2 for their signature under the post.

No results and evidences to show for yourself? I think this is yet another scam scheme. I’m sorry and I do wish this was real but as it stands today we don’t see the need for a faster way to make bets in one hand, especially since bookies are quick to accept and set the odds themselves nowadays anyway, and just cause there’s no real evidence for you to prove that what you’re saying is real.

We have no idea who you really are, you popped into this forum proposing a rather interesting business model but no testimonials att he very least, people here have been scammed countless times already and they’re not about to become victims again. So etiher come back and edit this with all proper evidences and proof that what you say is indeed true, or try your luck somewhere else friend.

OP, I like your service and also I love the fact that you want to help gamblers to cheat the casino, which is something that is not good. It us people that see gambling as a means to make profit that will be interested in your service because to me it doesn't look too real to be true because you are suppose to be rich by now through this medium.

If I may ask, have you ever tried it before? Instead of coming to this forum and looking for gamblers online, why don't you meet gamblers in your neighborhood and start to help them there after all, you are rendering a service and they will also be interested. This is because those people that you see face to face will believe you more than we here on the internet, as it is advisable not to trust anyone on the internet. Charity begins at home.

there are several people that travel following tennis events.... in some courts they have been also banned....that's why I know how it works and in certain cases it can be really profitable
BUT
gambler must be pretty sure of what is happens. and he also need to be sure that a goal (or any other event) can't be voided otherwise everything is loss... this is the only critics aspect that I see.

related escrow, is good option for both users. since you are not payed upfront... you can avoid to get scammed too...

have you ever used this betting strategy or not?
 

You are practically right. So you need a bookie which accept betting in 5-6 seconds, and because of some arenas with delay as 9 or more - you can bet.

Of course I am saying which team is attacking so you are almost ready.

About escrow - it is not e problem at all for me, but as I said, to be trusted, I do not any upfront money. Thanks for showing interest in my topic.

Hi OP
your offer is interesting but I think we are at the limit to apply it in the real world...

I mean:
you see event xx.
communicate information.
gambler add a bet.

Gambler must be ready (for example using software) or practically excluding the open markets which do not give "suspended" there is always a delay of 5-7 seconds before a bet is placed...

Have you ever used this betting strategy yourself?

(edit: I suggest in any case to use an escrow to avoid any issue, feel free to reach me if you need...)

Sorry, did you read carefully the topic?
1st - I did not ask for any money upfront
2nd - what ”faster video" do I need? I am talking about ATTENDING EVENTS and dictating. About what SCAM are you talking?

I will repeat - if you and other guys are so smart and know everything - why you do not want to try? It is for free 1st time, as I said. And no bookie will ban you for such a bet.

How would the people paying you benefit? Surely we're talking about a couple second advantage that you need to utilize in person, I can't see you getting any sort of faster video feed or otherwise being useful in this situation - you'd need access to a single account to maximize profits. In this scenario it sounds a lot like a scam to be honest "pay me upfront" and I'll feed you information, which has been done in all sorts of variations. Why, if this is such a profitable endeavor for you - and there are lots of bookmakers out there you can use even if you get banned from a few - would you want to benefit other people instead of trying to capitalize on it yourself and make it richer that way?

Yes, I do have 3+ years. Last week I was in Paris at ATP Masters. If they do not have account here, it will look not so good - to have reviews from new users.

It is because of that I will not ask any prepayment from people from this forum for now.

Ah yes, reminding me some scene from BBC: https://youtu.be/kvT_yIVI2Qw?si=0bazAxrk5uDBCDC7

Anyway, did you have some experience offering these service on other people. IMO, should be nice if you also maybe ask them to review your service even we all know is not guarentee + you already explained the risk.

Looking forward for the result.

No, it depends, there are sports where ever top tier league is ok for such things.

About risk managers - you are completely right. So my proposal is for the people who has many accounts and other things.

You guys from my topic get some bucks from casinos and bookies for advertising and now are trying to tell to anyone that this is so risky It is not!

Its just my 2 cents: Dont forget that every sports betting providers have a team call as the Risk Management Team, maybe it may works for a few times but soon or later they will find the pattern and the accounts probably marked as a high risk account which will bring problem to the users on any casinos.

Also the games must be from minor leagues where they always watch closely.
Ofc not watching from the stadium but casino have tools to safeguard their gambling business and I can guarantee it will always trigger the warning when there is a strange pattern or behaviour from any bets/games.

Im not against OP with this project, its not my business afterall.
Only share a bit information that I knew, so anyone who take part on these already know the risk.

Bookmakers have contracts with scouting services. Not all cities have scouts, and then the odds are made by a person who sits in the office and watches the video broadcast of this game.

I know arenas where the protocols are old and the equipment is not the newest either. Thus, when a team scores a goal, you will have from 7 to 12 seconds to place a bet until the bookmaker’s line closes.

Can you enlighten on how this split seconds difference will be an advantage on betting? This is an honest question without any sarcastic intent.

The only possible way that I knew this is effective is when the match is already over yet bookmaker still open some bets due to the delay for the result. Aside from this, the minimal change on odds is what I think possible whenever a team made a score within that delay span.

Afaik, Casino is very vigilant on betting like this since your client will have a pattern on what match and when to bet. There’s a chance of being connected to each other especially if they are winning together frequently. Your limit of customers is really a nice idea.

What is your telegram?

Now, to Slow death - Why are you "slandering"? You have “probably”, “possibly” in almost every paragraph. You have a bookmaker’s avatar - you understand everything perfectly. After several such bets, the site will increase the reception timing and will not be able to do anything else.

Why don't I bet from arenas? Because it’s difficult to switch “buttons” and follow the match, plus I’m a scout and betting isn’t really allowed. If you are so sure, why are you against the “test”? You don't lose anything. Here's why - you just don't want people to do this at the bookmaker's office, which you yourself advertise.

Detto890 - write your telegram

When I looked at this type of proposal I thought about the following: why would people pay 125 euros for someone else to give them this type of tips when these types of schemes also do not guarantee 100% success. In my opinion, it would be good if people didn't pay anyone and took the money they have and played with that money. This is because in addition to this method not being a 100% guarantee of correct bets, gambling should not be seen as a place to make profits, people start looking for strange methods to get around the harsh reality that the house always wins, and In this search for this contour and to be able to profit, the only thing that people can obtain are huge losses and they become frustrated and addicted.

If OP has this scheme which in my opinion could be something that is against the casinos TOS and for that reason people shouldn't use it, then why does OP need other people's money? Why is OP taking the risk of exposing his scheme when he could keep quiet and use it without anyone knowing? my theory or assumption is that op probably used this scheme but didn't make any profit. Therefore, he realized that he would not be able to profit from betting, but he could profit from the money that people would pay for the scheme. This is just like the courses that guys who consider themselves professional bettors sell. in other words, we are faced with those cases of selling dreams

Another thing that shocks me is with these two posts made by these two accounts that have only made one post since they were created, honestly it's very strange that a person created an account just to make a very short post showing interest in this method, I was wondering : how did these guys know about this thread? Well, these are things that shock me. I hope these two guys don't come back here complaining later, of course that's if they really are customers and they are two people, because with so many lying people and fake accounts, it's hard to believe certain things

ciao sono interessato

Hi Bro I'm interested in your proposal. Can you contact me privately? because I'm new and it doesn't let me send messages.

Sorry, but you even did not try, you have never worked with me, but are saying that I am lying.

About to be trusted - I have nothing asked in advance, have I had? You can try and if you will like it - you pay. These is a good one time offer for anyone "who" tend to think and other speculation.

I'm very much inclined to believe that OP is lying and probably doesn't know what he is talking about. A 7 to 12 second window of opportunity would make this method very detectable and hence any bookie that respects himself would flag this really fast and null the bet winning and ban the account... So unless OP has an unknown method to make this past a bookmaker's detection, doesn't sound like a system that would work.



You don't tell us why anyone should trust you and how you intend to prove the validity of your service.

I have never heard in 3 years about BANning acc for these. 2 days ago I was in another country at tennis - all good there. But yes, after 3-4 good bets company will increase acceptance time of bet. This is for people who have many accounts and know how to deal with proxy etc.

I am totally honest and do not no sell anything that does not work.

At least this guy knows the risk on the part of the bettor and tells you upfront hehe. It's not only cancellation but also betting limitation or account restriction and ban.
I wouldn't engage in this activity but there may be some noobies who would take this offer without realizing the risks involved so respect for telling what it is. 

Hello, guys! I thinks everyone knows what is courtsiding - when you go to the stadium, to any sport, and make bets from there, trying to make a bet faster than bookmaker will update the odds.

I have been working as a scout for two years now in a company that provides data for bookmakers (in Scandinavia, in the north). In some countries I have been to all the football and hockey arenas.

I can dictate (3 years of experience) to you matches from arenas where there are no scouts (the bookmaker updates the quotes by taking information from the person who is watching the broadcast from the office).

There are arenas with old equipment, and due to this, a delay in data transmission is created. These are the arenas I ride in.

My price is 125 EUR from a person (I can accept almost any crypto), and I want to take 5-6 persons maximum, so companies will not cancel your bets. Delay is more than 7 seconds (up to 12).

PS I am interested to work with professionals, who knows how to bet and how does it work. I will not write here my contacts, you can contact me in PM and we will discuss it.

PPS You can ask me everything here and I will explain