Topic: Covid 19 Where it Come from? (Read 812 times)

^^^ But if they get together in private communication, and set a time when they will spread their lies together, they will be able to convince a world full of simple, ignorant people, that a non-existent virus really exists.

Humans, the FBI, they're not god. They can't just snap their finger, boom, stop the virus from spreading. If humans had such powers then the world would be very different.

The actual Covid virus is probably a failed piece of "biological" warfare. That's why it has been patented the way it has... so that nobody can publish isolation findings that would show that it has failed.

All that Covid really is, is a bunch of advertising by the media and governments, designed to lock the world down so that governments can take over the world easier.

Do you really want to die? Covid isn't killing you. How many people are falling dead around you like flies in a bug spray? It isn't happening. The whole pandemic is a lie. It's just words that are SAYING that some Covid virus in killing people who die. Yet overall death statistic show that there aren't any more dead people than any other year.

This means that, it people are dying from Covid, that they had to stop dying from cancer, heart disease, diabetes, car accidents, and a bunch of other things, just so they could die from Covid. But people don't suddenly stop dying from other things just so they can die from Covid.

You are being played. They are lying to you, and you are the suckers who took it all in. They have done with words what armies couldn't do. They conquered you with words, a thing that big guns and bombs couldn't do. You might as well lie down and let them run all over you like Hitler and Stalin did to their own people in WW2.

Here is where Covid comes from. If you Youtube search on the title, you will find some other videos about this same thing.


MUST WATCH! |Corona virus | David E. martin PHD | missing link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK1B_vUVAA

unfortunately, months and months after the beginning of the pandemic, nothing is known for certain about the origin of the virus, in my opinion the hypothesis that is closest to reality is this in a laboratory in China were studying the corona viruses extracted from bats and in somehow it got out of hand, they lost control of it, it seems to have been around since September 2019 and it was spread with the occasion of the Paralympics held in China

Covid is nothing new, but covidiots and hysteria came from politicians and fake news media.

Why doesn't your Bitcointalk handle read Dr. boyptc? You absolutely know it was Covid-19? How? Did you get anybody who told you that it was Covid-19 into court and get them to testify under oath that it was Covid-19? Ha anybody anywhere testified in court under oath that it was Covid-19 killed anyone? Has there even been an under-oath courtroom testimony that Covid-19 exists?

Until you get these testimonies, and compare them with the testimonies that suggest that Covid has never been isolated - including the one from the CDC - how do you know?

I've seen the deaths of friends of my friends because of Covid 19.

I've watched experiences of survivors that have documented their life during the infection. I think those are enough for me to say that it's a real virus or if I don't believe the existence of it.

I respect what they've been through as it's a very hard journey for them fighting to recover against the pandemic.

I just did a Google search on 'covid 19 stats'.   

^^^ I think that people were saved by Covid. Many more people would have died if Covid hadn't been here. I have all kinds of statistics to prove it. I simply am not interested in putting those statistics up on the Internet.

If you think the opposite, put some statistics up that don't contradict each other. Even one of the CDC's own doctors has shown that the Covid virus hasn't been isolated, yet. Since it hasn't been isolated, it hasn't been found. Since it hasn't been found, nobody knows that it is doing anything at all, or even if it exists to do anything.

I hope that it won't have any addition in the number of deaths. It's a lot of people that were been infected and took their lives because of this virus.

Although, there were reports that even the reason for the death of a patient isn't covid 19, they will record it as covid 19. I'm not looking into that argument but this virus is really killing people and it's no joke.

Other people are not taking it seriously.

those numbers are calculated how ?    

if the numbers are provided then it should be all the full statitics provided

We have been told this deadly virus is coming from China but truth is we really dont know the actual origin.

Even if this is true though some people will call it a accident and others think this is a attack from the Chinese (dont think so.)

Covid stats are as follows now :  Cases 45.1M     Recovered 30.3M     Deaths 1.18M     This will be more than 2million deaths before its over.

Covid comes from the imagination of people who are trying to take over the world. The statistics are lies written by people who are trying to take over the world. Back in 2017, countries all over the world were bying PCR test kits by the multi-millions, in preparation for their manufactured Covid. PCR test kits simply multiply whatever virus you feed it so that it looks like a person has the disease, even if they are healthy, happy, and totally symptom free.

Wake up and see that the manipulations of the numbers of deaths, and why the people died, are lies set in place by governments and Big Medical Tech.

It is believed to come from their and may be in future if some proofs comes this will help to finalize and confirm as well that a specific country is responsible for the spread of this virus . Also if it is done purposely or was it by mistake that has being spread is also a questionable at this point .

I have replied @Mauser in the 1st page , WHO scientist been in China from beging, but many medias said they are paid actors...and then, they quit WHO:)

And there is United Nations Committee Meeting talking about the investigation, American gov is the only one who don't allow the individual investigation...(news report still available on internet!)

CDC have deleted many info about the virus and nobody knows why,  Chinese gov have reported the virus from 2019/12/30 via CCTV, social medias, newspapers but they said China hide the truth till today!
And they said the virus is from China since it's first found in Wuhan, so how about AIDS？ it's first found in Ameican.

that's all propaganda!   Here is my conspiracy theories:

1: Where the Vape Illess (White lung disease，same with covid-19) gone ?   
Electronic cigarette been popular in many countries for almost 10 years, but the vape illness only found in one country, and the magic part is: Vape Illess dispeared with no reason after the Covid-19 been found!

2: And Why the closed the Fort Detrick Bio Lab before 7th CISM Military World Games held in Wuhan?
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It's meaningless to talk where is the virus from, the important is how to save people from the virus, and stop the death!

Exercise is also a must.

But you know what, I'm not sure how many people are actually doing this. I'm sure that there are people like you that are taking of themselves properly after hearing those tips.

Although, not everyone who hears that kind of advice follows.

The pandemic won't go away for a long time. Why not? Because, even if every last Covid virus simply self-destructed this minute, the pandemic is in the minds of the people.

Even if there was no virus, the pandemic will say in the minds of the people. Why? For two major reasons:
1. The people will remain in fear, because they won't know that the virus is gone;
2. Governments and the medical system will keep on telling the people that the virus is still here, so that the people remain in fear, and they can control the people easier, for profit.

How do we know that the above will-happen/is-happening? Because the people aren't generally smart enough to look away from Youtube... to see that people like Del Bigtree (https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/), Dr. Andrew Kaufman (https://www.andrewkaufmanmd.com/), Dr. Simone Gold (https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/), and thousands upon thousands of other doctors are telling us that the viral pandemic is not the problem that standard medical and governmental leaders say that it is... and that the death numbers are very much lies.

While it is true that it might be somewhat important to know where the virus came from, the important thing is to move past the pandemic fear. Why is it not wise to continue the pandemic fear? Fear stifles movement. And if we don't get back to work, the pandemic of starvation that is started already, will be hundreds of times worse than the Covid virus could even think to be.

This will surely answer when the pandemic totally Gone because i'm sure Big countries like America and European countries will not let them go away with this.
if this is intentionally spread someone must Pay.
Death toll is continuously growing and tons of family are now in deep living because of the effect of covid.

China never let the pther countries to find it so the real truth will never get unfold atleast for some decades.

It may comes from China bur luckily the spread stopped in few months there while other countries are still facing the increase in number of cases reported per day.

^^^ This is only the first recorded case. There's evidence that there were many more cases prior to Wuhan, and that Covid was around the world last year, already.

First case was recorded from Wuhan, China and says that it was originated from there. The conspiracy whether it is a genetically-engineered virus is not yet confirmed due to lack of evidences. Many studies published now claimed that it came from a bat which possess a human to human transmission. But no one knows the truth about this or the scientist created this keep on hiding the truth. Being a novel virus, the world has limited and inadequate knowledge for now, but with the help of science we will know the truth and scientist will able to develop vaccine to win against this virus.

Most people believe it comes from China, but some believe  it's a conspiracy theory. But we can't say for now but history will unfold the truth with time.

Nobody knows where viruses come from. Covid wasn't manufactured. It might have been manipulated slightly, to make it more virulent. But where it came from, and how Coronavirus mutated into Covid, are things science hasn't found out, yet. But if they have, they aren't telling us.

Viruses are considered to have evolved in some way, right along with the rest of evolution. But since evolution, itself, is a theory on shaky ground, nobody can do other than talk about it as a theory.

Lately researchers are starting to think that viruses are mutated exosomes, which have been expelled by the cells in a person's body. Exosomes are originally a method for communicating between cells, and for correcting cells that have become corrupted... or for destroying cells that are corrupted beyond the point of no return. Sounds like what viruses do, right?

An individual strain of virus might affect many people, while at the same time not affecting many others at all. Sounds exactly like Covid. Covid might be an exosome from within our cells, sent out to protect us from toxins in our system. Some people haven't been poisoned as much as others by unhealthy living. They live, while others - more toxic people - die, because the exosome/virus fix is too much for them, because they are so toxic.

Still their is no solid evidence or not yet completely proved that it came from a specific country though many days that it evolved or was purposely spread  from a country and also not being intimated for quite some time . May be in future only we might have some clarification and world might know about it .

Its a natural thing. It may have accidentally escaped the lab, and the negligent (in)actions done by authorities may have contributed but it is known with certainty that it came from bats.

Covid-19 has already claimed more than a million lives, humanity was simply unprepared. When an outbreak like this is detected, it should be revealed and isolation put in place to stop it in its tracks ASAP. This wasn't done, it escaped and claimed those million lives and counting.

Perhaps due to human habits, the virus did the species jump in China. But in the past other viruses have made the jump, say, from pigs, or chickens, even cows; so its not like the chinese are unique. One of the previous variants famously came from camels (MERS stands for Middle East Respiratory Syndrome).

So what happens in China when an unknown virus is found? It gets sent to their best facility for handling these things. And it happens that this is in Wuhan. I don't think they have any other lab with the requirements to handle these, and yet they may have failed to properly handle it. It is officially admitted that they had it by Dec 1, but to reach the Wuhan lab that date, it must have been found a bit earlier.

Let me reiterate that denying the existence of the virus has the same credibility that the earth is flat. They belong in the same group. You can literally take a (microscope) picture (or video) of corona, which is why it has that name since is a known type of virus with spikes resembling a crown. Of course you can't do nothing when the truth is irrelevant and they'd rather keep to their beliefs based solely on themselves. To them, facts are irrelevant. They are beyond repair and the best you can do is ignore them.

Covid-19 triggers a body response that proves fatal in a % of the population. For this reason even when others survive and may even get some level of immunity, since they can still be carrying it to those weaker groups, they should keep using their masks and do the distancing. These measures are not to protect YOU, but to help protect others. By ignoring them you are disrespecting your peers, and in some cases sentencing them to death. To think the president of a nation could do such a thing, first Bolsonaro and now Trump...

Denying it costs lives. This is not a joke, you are being cruel or simply lack empathy.

If There is someone who created this virus?then He better be not found because for sure He will be facing very difficult living soon.

we still have no proof of people are involved in this or it is a natural thing since virus are already existing with many kinds.

And so then you must also believe that thousands of doctors and nurses (those that have treated the half million patients with covid) must be part of this huge worldwide conspiracy. They would certainly know what is really happening with their patients, so they must be in on it, too.

And don't forget all the healthcare workers that died from covid. They must have been willing to die for their conspiracy, or perhaps they were all murdered because they were going to spill the beans.

Same things that have killed people for hundreds and thousands of years before Covid ever was lied into existence.

Total deaths in 2017 exceed total deaths in 2020 for the same period.

If there is no Covid 19, then what has killed hundreds of thousands of people around the world, and what should we do about it?

Is there any more power than China

Covid 19 Where it Come from?


It was all contrived. Even the CDC finally admits this; actually, they admitted it way back in July. But we only recently found their admittance in their literature, now... https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55348172.

That animal was a pangolin. Actually, we have the same understanding of how it happened and where its origin came from as obvious from Wuhan.

Where the covid 19 came from is unknown to several people but many folks realize it came from the town of wuhan in china outbreaks of the corona virus were first reported there then gradually spread round the world. The virus is transmitted from one animal to the physical body and from one person to a different is consistently changing its genetic makeup  called mutations another name for the virus is 2019 ncov it's a kind of coronavirus. There are many species of coronavirus but only 6 of them are often transmitted to humans.

There are many theories on the outbreak of coronavirus, but all we know is that this virus started spreading from china and has clawed almost all the countries’ world! Many people have died while many are still suffering. This is not the end though. Our medical health workers and professionals that are fighting and facing this deadly virus on a daily basis want us all to remain safe and secure, many international health organizations have, therefore, imposed the safety norms and demanded the strict use of all the social distancing measures such as wearing a safety mask, sanitizing and much more. You can, therefore, use the https://accumed.com/n95-mask-for-sale-respirator-safety-face-mask-z1.html , as it shields you from 95% of the particulate matter of size 0.3 microns. I really hope this pandemic vanishes from our lives!

I don't think these corona virus of a thing is made by any body but i really know that virus can be created by human, but from my views i seen that corona is not mab made virus.

I don't think its a problem of intelligence agencies, but of sanitary handling. The world is not ready to resist a biological attack, and this wasn't.

This virus thrived within humans habits, like the flu it spreads from saliva flying around into others or sticking to surfaces humans would often touch and bring to their face.

A proper quarantine of no more than a month is all that was needed to stop this on its track, but the world was too "busy" to bother with quarantines, and it got out of control quickly.

Again, humanity cannot withstand a true biological attack. If you want to give an evaluation of which countries did better/worse, take a look at the statistics with number of cases, and deaths, and you can tell from it.

It is the social issue, people are told to stay home but they go out. A bio-hazard is not something you should take lightly, as it can quickly escalate in pandemic disaster, but people couldn't do better, they "had to do" whatever it is, that meant getting close to infected and spread it more.

So to not lose one month, we lost several. Most govs acted too little, too late. Once reported in Jan, all transport should have been halted one month to let the virus die itself, but it didn't. People kept going out, goods kept moving, passenger flights kept running, spreading it more to all. In addition, nearly a million died, so far.

The virus isn't man made. It "might" have escaped from Wuhan's research center (which means they collected it earlier), but it certainly comes from nature, if your diet involves bats or pangolins anyway, "someone" has to process them, someone exposing their human bodies to animal potentially mutating viruses.

The "Avian" and "Swine" flu jumped species pretty much the same way. You might as well call this the "bat" flu or "pangolin" flu. It is type corona because its spiky, but its not the only corona virus, and probably won't be the last.

I haven't thought about this virus since April. Why do you constantly think about it, does it make you and the people around you happier? 

I increasingly don't believe in the existence of Covid 19 because it makes me confused why this kind of thing can happen but only has a negative impact on the poor. try to pay attention to the people around who feel the benefit. including the wealthy, state officials, and political elites who only spend money at home.

Where? Here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjK1B_vUVAA

News all over the world says it starts from China..

The epicenter of this virus is Wuhan China so it might really started from there.

Though there are many hearsays that it was plan and made as weapon of china to other countries, there's still no evidence backing it up.

I think what matters now is to stop this virus from spreading so we can somehow return to how we live our life before this virus occur.

Don't worry this will all address once the virus got cure,Surely the whole world will never stop pointing who's responsible about this pandemic.

After lots of people die?All country will never stop finding for the involved here.

There are those in medical research who say that viruses are really exosomes that come from out own cells. There are many who deny this. The research to determine what is true is very complex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY4pJaGJgkA

Watch the videos here https://www.andrewkaufmanmd.com/.

No one really knows.

Someone may claim they know, but they never get any evidence...

Op statement is hypothetical, because where it comes from has got two meanings, its origin of virus or the origin of spread of infection?

Whatever to the knowledge known, the virus is already existing like that of rhinovirus (causing common cold) but it becomes more serious and found fatal reported initially in the city of wuhan, China. COVID-19 spread is through air droplets. Until now there is no evidence stating its start location. Everything is done on some selective predictions.

Too many question about this but what we need now is the cure,Of Course this came from China as the first infected people are Chinese.
There are some stories but who knows whats the truth behind?

For now let us face first this Problem and answer those questions after solving this because for sure authorities all over the world will never stop to make pay if there is someone guilty for this.

I certainly don't have the expertise to dispute Dr. Kaufman, but he believes that all of the doctors and medical researchers in the world are participating in some grand conspiracy, which is ridiculous. So, I really can't believe anything that he says, especially when it goes against so many facts that are otherwise undisputed.

It is surprising to me that you totally reject the Flat Earth conspiracy, but you totally embrace this one. Both are equally ridiculous to me.

Do two things for both of us to help us prove that viruses exist:
1. Listen to Dr. Kaufman, starting about 37 minutes into the video - https://www.andrewkaufmanmd.com/vids/Hippocratic%20Hypocrisy.m4v. Listen for about 10 minutes;
2. Find us a medical investigation report, that shows the necessary steps of the methods for finding an actual virus. Point to the spot in the report, and make sure that it doesn't flub things up the way Dr. Kaufman says that the reports flub things up.

Dr. Kaufman and I would like to see that report, and we would like to be able to contact the maker(s) of the report, and the researcher(s) who did the study.

Thank you.

I read an article before that they found the zero case(the first one who got it) in China but they didn't reveal more information about it and it's a secret person.

Sadly, all we can do is speculate. But since it came from Wuhan, perhaps we can narrow down our speculations to that area. If it's really not the fault of the Chinese people who were in Wuhan at the time of the incident and the theory that other nationalities may have been involved, every suspicious foreign national who was in Wuhan at least 2 months before the outbreak must be investigated. As to how that should be done, I don't really know. But that's the best way to find leads.

are you sure?  
the WHO scientists been arrived in China from Jan to Feb,  they said China didn't allow since the scientists are not allowed by USA gov, but never mind, they have quit WHO.
And as I know, the USA is the only country didn't allow the investigation when all other counties allowed at a United Nations committee meeting，

that's all pubulic news, not me created the fake news!

The research has found the virus been in Eroupe before China,  and there are still many questions about the Vape Illless (White Lung Disease) only happened in America since vaping is popular all over the world!

My sister got very sick with covid-19 symptoms in December shortly after a flight from Jakarta and before the official start of the epidemic. Was it covid-19? No way to know, but she could have come into contact with someone from Wuhan (or someone on the way to Wuhan!)

Your whole post is BS. Simple google searches debunk everything you wrote.


1. BS (Images of active viruses taken with an electron microscope). Furthermore, it is not clear if viruses can even be considered alive in the first place (Are Viruses Alive?)
2. Viruses contain DNA and RNA, so they probably evolved just like everything else with DNA and RNA (DNA viruses, RNA viruses
3. It is not an "assumption". It is well-studied and documented. Viruses kill as they take over cells as part of the replication process. Influenza Replication Process
4. You are obviously speculating. Sources?


Covid-19 has killed nearly 200,000 people in the U.S. That is a fact.


Such as?

true, coronavirus is not new, it has been researched for a long time...
Even though it's still vague, I believe more in the news broadcast by Time and other large magazines that are more valid, it is said that the Covid-19 virus is a mutation of the SARS virus that has plagued China in 2003.

Covid 19 isn't a human to trace down by the so called secret services, it was created by the nature and the virus itself gets mutated from time to time.Do you think this world belongs to human alone? Not really!

Still there is no confirmation about its origin but the whole world is suspecting China and they also have been shady with handling the virus earlier.

Viruses in general were invented by some researchers back in the mid-1800s. They couldn't find anything that was causing some of the illnesses back then, so they invented the idea that there was something that was so tiny that it couldn't be seen. This "something" was what was doing the damage, and later was come to be known by the word "virus." They never had any proof for it.

The first microscope that could see viruses was the "electron microscope" (EM). And the first of these was invented in 1931. Now viruses could be seen, finally. However, even though the tiny objects that we call viruses have been seen:
1. The EM can see only "dead" viruses;
2. We still don't really know where the viruses come from;
3. It is only assumption that makes us think that viruses are doing damage;
4. Viruses could be exosomes that are expelled by our own cells to help with immune reactions.

In other words, all the info about viruses for more than the last 150 years is assumptive. Each piece of scientific knowledge about viruses is built on something that came before. Most of the pieces of knowledge are assumptive, and the whole basic idea that they are all built on is assumptive. What do we assume? That viruses are dangerous. But we don't have any real knowledge that this is the fact.

Now, with the advent of the Microsphere Nanoscope (in 2011), where we can view living viruses in color, while they live and move in living cell tissue, we are finding that many of the assumptions we have had about viruses are dubious at best.

The point? Much/most of our info about what Covid is and where it came from, is entirely based on assumptions that we are finding out are wrong.

They have found traces of the virus in sewage samples from Europe that predate the published Wuhan cases. Of course that doesn't mean that it wasn't in China at the same time.

As the others said, we don't know where it came from, but I heard that the virus from the animal market in Wuhan (if I am not mistaken). But I think the virus comes out because of the leak from the lab in Wuhan, and the virus attacks people in that city. The virus can finally spread to other countries because many people visit other countries, which makes the virus spread in almost all countries. But maybe what we all read from the news is speculation because China doesn't let another country investigate it.

This is where the coronavirus was first caught. This is the first time that Uhan is trying to suppress this virus. As a result, many people think that it is necessary to find the source. The question of how and where the virus originated has now become a major tool in the propaganda war between China and the United States. And the question that comes up again and again is, is the source of the virus natural - as most scientists think - or has the virus come out of a lab?

We suspect that it escaped from the Wuhan lab that is part funded by Fauci. We  also know that it is unnatural. It has a section in its RNA string that couldn't evolve naturally. It had to be snipped out of another virus and added clinically. It is the section that makes it more contagious. The virus developement has been going on in several of the bio warfare labs, including Porton Down in the UK. It is rumoured that the Wuhan lab has sold a bio weapon involving Anthrax to Pakistan, so expect more of these pandemics in the future.

We know it came out of Wuhan, China. But unfortunately there is no free, independent research team on the ground look into this issue. China didn't allow scientist from WHO and other countries to come into China and do test. Also, it might be possible the intelligence know more than they make public. Probably a lot of things happening in secret and the public will only know in 50 years.

It came all of the sudden and I don't think those agencies you have mentioned were already into it before the spread on the epicenter of the virus in China.

From what I have read before, it came from pangolin and the transmission started. IIRC, there's a pandemic that happens once every 100 years. However, we get to see news of epidemics for specific places each year.

Sadly, no one knows. There hasn't been any confirmed information about it.

Who was the Person or group who made covid virus?  And Why?  And Where it come from?
It takes alot resources to unleash virus like this
So how Come cia FBI mossad mi6 fsb and other secret Service groups could not prevent this virus?

They bragging that they know everything and how good they are hunting down terrorist...
But this time?  How Come they let this evil to be unleashed?