Topic: Craig Wright Satoshi Claim Case Update (Read 782 times)

ALL of CSW income is a loan. he collateralised his life story and gave it a value. his whole charade is fame production to try and get ROI from all this social drama

https://mylegacykit.medium.com/the-craig-wright-may-2016-signing-sessions-debacle-in-full-context-338e2b316310
to avoid a long read about all of it. just do
(browser function: find in page: "the prelude")
or here's my snippet of it


CSW entire game was telling his sponsors he has all these patents, all these potential law suit wins all these book and movie deals that are worth billions if combined as a package, and all he wants is an ongoing "R&D income stream"

the companies (in first court order) were meant to be frozen by law over a £6m court ordered valuation..  which the sponsors seen as a hindrance on the CSW promises of "billions" of future ROI so logically its obvious they(mcgregor and mathews) would be the ones paying the £6m to untie the court order
and same will probably happen again with this second court order too

as to why CSW asks for income in the form of R&D.. hint (tax relief)
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/corporation-tax-research-and-development-rd-relief
also by calling it R&D, he doesnt need to promise giving a final product for all his work..
yep.. verbally he promised his sponsors "completed work".. but contractually he duped them into R&D which never needs to result in "completed work".. so mcgregor and mathews are getting duped too, as ayres is finding out now

CSW is not personally wealthy. its all locked or wrapped or false accounted into his businesses which are wrapped up in some shell companies and contracts.. which is why COPA needed/wanted those things court ordered to be frozen

and i hope you are all caught up now on the finances of CSW and his sponsors

He is a clown, what the point was to spread misinformation without any way to proof it

But don't forget there are some damage remaining (e.g. Bitcoin whitepaper on bitcoin.org still blocked for UK visitor) and BSV holder doesn't seem to care much about that CW is faketoshi.


I find it's hard to believe a third party actually pay £6m for faketoshi. Although i also wonder if faketoshi manage to make a loan and use it to make payment under someone else name.

update:
after the march 27th order to freeze assets to the total value of £6m... to avoid asset freezing the sum had to be paid in full to the courts
.. a third party paid £6m to the courts which the courts are holding onto whilst COPA calculate their costs.
the court acknowledge that someone that is not CSW paid the £6m

on april 12th copa filed and the court agreed to a second order to freeze accounts of CSW and 2 businesses to a total value of £1m, again giving CSW the chance to pay in full (by the 16th of april) to avoid asset freezing

there will be a further court update on the 26th of april

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/bitcoin-high-court-london-b1151135.html

I don't like CW and I never believed he was Satoshi, but I also don't want him to continue being attacked. We have the results, CW is just Faketoshi, that's enough for the market. The best way to punish a fame seeker is to make him forgotten in the history of the crypto market, not to keep mentioning him to give him more media exposure. I don't even want to write his full name!

I've also removed BSV from my watchlist, it should rest in peace with CW's notoriety.

They're just trying to screw him even harder so the stain that's on his name sticks even more and would linger more than it should, they need to implicate that he did lie about a lot of his claims that he's the person behind the legendary user Satoshi Nakamoto, definitely not a bad idea if you ask me for the court and COPA to do that, that way, there's no way that they can make mistakes that Craig and his team might exploit to make the case against him a bit weaker thus having more chances of lighter sentencing. It's a good thing that this fiasco with Craig is almost over, I'm getting tired seeing this as headlines on crypto news, it's not a fun story to read and it topples over those that really need some attention, I hope that he does change as a person after this is all over, lying really won't get you so far, it's difficult to keep it up and once you're busted, it's difficult to get out of it.

Highly educated people can still be emotionally unstable or they simply think they are better than other people. (They call that an inflated ego or just arrogance)

We have a few highly educated family members in my broader family and some of them do not mix with the rest of the family, because they think that they are in a different class and that their shit does not stink. A lot of their social lives are in a mess, but they keep up a fake front to protect their own inflated ego.

CW thought he was the smartest guy in Crypto currency, but he was proven wrong by people that were smarter than him. He did fool Gavin and some fanboys, but the truth and facts exposed him.

 

"Independent".

You can have your opinions, but I also have mine and in my opinion your opinions are not "independent".


Gaslighting again, and without addressing the fact that frankandbeans claimed that it was Nick Szabo that "introduced" Craig Wright to the public, and making it look that it was Nick Szabo's fault that this "CSW is Satoshi" nonesense started. Everyone should take screenshots of your posts frankandbeans, you change your claims.


Hahaha! The post continues of what was said to him about Nick Szabo and that conference.

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i had my opinions on core being a central point of failure BEFORE CSW and jonald ..
thats not an admission of being part of some altnetwork group.. thats called independent research and scrutiny
when idiots like CSW and jonald then copied what i said i called them out on it.. yep they are idiots too..

im not looking to form a group. im not part of a group. i dont like nor tolerate nor want ass-kissers.. i dont want mindless zombies copying stuff without understanding it.. people should do their own research and not sound like zombie copy/paste reciting idiots
im not interested in other networks nor promote people should move to other networks(unlike the doomad/windfury group, that sound more like CSW games)

as for windfurys failing to understand logic reason, research, data, fact and history
if he did do his research he will see CSW first appearance publicly in the cryptosphere was not the signing session with gavin.. not the self doxing and running away to the UK. it was months earlier in 2015 at a conference nick szabo was at.
(CSW was skype called live-streamed in on a big screen)
most peoples interest in that conference was due to nick szabo being there, he was the lead guest of interest. CSW was an unknown entity but then treated as secondary lead guest.
the host bitcoinbabe made an article later about her regrets of hosting that conference with CSW in it.. where she says CSW had been previously introducing himself to the big players of crypto and the big names like nick szabo and trying to mingle and get associated with and recognition via trying to get close to the big names(during 2015),
which she then thought he was a big player worthy of being in the conference panel due to the association he wiggled his way into of certain others like nick szabo
if it wasnt for CSW name dropping nickszabo as a contact he would not have been on the panel with nick szabo

i call this crap out because this crap needs to be called out as a way showing history of events.. now go do your research
yep CSW was trying to mingle and wedge his way into bitcoin ecosphere/recognition before he doxxed himself and moved to the UK
CSW first bitcoin purchase was 2013 and first appearance was oct 2015 before the self doxing to media in december 2015
the public had no opinion of CSW before oct 2015
CSW had no bitcoin association, relevance, participation, recognition earlier then this

so i did not form my opinions around stuff CSW said nor had personal contact with CSW.. so windfury trying to pretend im associated with CSWthe scammer are where windfury gets its all wrong

when CSW done the signing thing and published it. i even was trying to tell people the signature was a fake, where it was pulled from publicly available blockdata and not a real newly signed thing soon after CSW published it. i was calling out CSW as fake early on

windfury just hates having his gas enlightened and hates getting burned so then wants to pretend people that burn him with enlightened facts must be part of some alternate group
windfury wants to confuse things and re arrange history purely because doomad does, and its their gameplan to be like CSW and promote some other network(LN) as bitcoin that they think people should move over to it if peoples dont like cores business plan
they are the ones that sound like CSW and emulate him

You would not believe how many degrees this man has. He has bachelor’s degree, master’s degree and even theology’s degree. Which is crazy. But I wouldn’t be surprised if those degrees turn out to be fake lol.

But if it is indeed true then imagine studying all those years and gaining recognition just for you to mess everything in your life by pretending to be someone you’re not. To top of it all off, he did all these lies by presenting badly made evidences. As a graduate of multiple degrees in different fields, he should have known better.

I believe not. He has been playing 4D Chess with Jonald Fyookball in the forum BEFORE the existence of Craig Wright was known. The proof in his trust-rating.

He also admitted it.


In fact, he also told me that it was Nick Szabo who introduced Craig Wright as the "real Satoshi" during one of the conferences. That was enough 4D Chess for me. Plus I'm wearning my tin-foil hat every time is see frankandbeans.

CSW is my inspiration???

sorry but my opinion exists BEFORE CSW because i have been in bitcoin and pointing out cores faults before CSW was even a name in the cryptosphere

i dont want him or anyone just echo chambering my words..
read my footnote.. its clear people should do their own research

CSW takes other peoples work and claims it as his own.. as we all know.. and no one wants him to do that, including me
i dont want nor need a cult. i am not part of a cult. and scammer CSW is not proof of me being in a cult. he is just an idiot

however windfury is a acolyte/disciple/mentee of doomad... much as ayres was a disciple fo CSW

i have called out many people that try to copy my words verbatim but then show they lack actual independent research to actually understand it

the difference is
doomad adores windfury, blackhat and oeleo copying doomads stupidity.. CSW adores ayres reciting CSW

there is the difference

if a twit thinks that someone that scrutinises or points out core issues must be in some CSW cult. then the twit that thinks that, is an idiot

people need to do research review and scrutinise core devs. doomad doesnt want people scrutinising core devs and will do anything to try to stop anyone from reviewing, scrutinising or pointing things out. including trying to pidgeon hole them into some lame group as his way to try to quieten the scrutiny
but in the end it makes doomad and his ilk look more like the scammer group of cultish games he tries to pideon hole associate people in

Is your cult one of the fun ones with lots of orgies and free love? Or one of the boring ones that we sit around chanting for inner calm?

Looking for something to do this summer since it looks like my motorcycle is going to be in for warranty work for the foreseeable future and a free love orgy cult sounds like fun.

Anyway, I don't know all the ins and outs of the courts on the other side of the Atlantic, but here in the US there really is no way to go back and say you didn't say something in a civil trial. You said it, it's on you, and people suing you can use it against you with just about 0% possibility of you being able to dispute it.

-Dave

Craig Scammer Wanker is franky1's greatest inspiration.  He's basically sucking the guy's cock.  He is #1 member of the Faketoshi cult in terms of how they both perceive Bitcoin:


He says people are following my cult, but clearly no one in their right mind would be following his.    

No, frankandbeans. In the context of that post of yours, you mentioned Craig Wright because you're trying to tell everyone that some users in BitcoinTalk and myself are "playing the same games as CSW". But who has the negative trust-rating given by BOTH Core Developers? Should everyone believe you or them?

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i mention CSW because its THIS TOPIC

also your gang of idiots form your own lies and echo chamber it and then approach moderators to then get moderators involved by telling moderators that you dont like what others say, then you use the moderators that hug you as your claim..

sucking up and ass kissing like a cult does not form fact.. the cult games are not fact creators. they are echo chambers of lies. same as CSW
creatng a narrative,recruiting idiots to repeat a narrative, popularise a narrative .. doesnot then make that narrative fact.. instead it just circle jerks stupidity and becomes confirmation bias of a lie.. digging your own hole until you cant escape your own grave

now go learn from the block data and code. not from some cult group of social drama and ass kissing idols circle jerking each other

i have no mentor, you are stuck in the cult games that you think everyone not in your cult must be in another
try a new mindset.. escape the cults and have an independent opinion without idols

i dont want ass kissers i am not an ass kisser.. there is a good reason i have said many times and even have it in my footnote
DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH

there have been people over the years that then try to copy my words, word for word without independent thought, and i have called them idiots too.. yep when i highlight flaws in core dev policy and altcoiners and other people then use that 'word for word' for their own attack. i do call them out for not even doing their own research and instead sounding like a sheep repeating something
i am not looking to form a group. i have not been or want to be part of a group.. and just because others say something i said does not mean im pigeon holed into a group

just do your own research and stop playing the cult games or you will become just as stupid as CSW with his games
and by research, i mean actual research using real code and data sources.. NOT repetition of someone you idolise that has their own agenda
... stop playing the games of trust of idols. it wont help you.. as shown by the last few years of your posts

We're idiots because we listen to those two people, Gregory Maxwell and A. Chow both Bitcoin Core Developers, that have given you those two negative trust-ratings? But you're not because you listen to your mentor Roger Ver? You also try to bring Craig Wright in the conversation, but the only person that spreads lies, disinformation, and gaslights like him is you ser.

is yourself, oeleo blackhatcoiner, doomad and the other couple people in the echo chamber group of idiots that treat themselves like a cult club repeating the same mantra hosted by doomad as lead idiot(playing the same games as CSW)

your idiot group even keep trying to define lightning network as being the bitcoin network

you are not a core dev, nor is your mentor or his acolytes.. you lot are just a silly fanclub.. learn the difference.. you dont even understand nor want to learn code, so how can you claim that "group of idiots" refers to core devs, when its clear that when i call you a group of idiots and you know who im talking about, you pretend im talking about another group

i know you want to pretend you are in the same league as core devs because, but your not. so stop trying to associate yourself

the group of idiots is clearly you and your mentor.. yep blackhatcoiner, doomad and the other idiots are not core devs.. they are just a cultish fanbase of certain core devs(that desire a full migration of bitcoin users to move to their favoured lightning network) you lot formed a religion around this philosophy, chanting it

learn the difference
you are playing the same games as CSW. and your not even smart enough to realise it
its time you start having thoughts of your own, and stop blindly idolising and copying what some cult leader says, before you become as poisonous in social drama as CSW crowd

I laughed when he was found to have used ChatGPT and altered PDFs. He has degrees in computer science but doesn't understand metadata.

"Group of idiots" in your opinion are the Core Developers, which in my opinion are the rightful stewards of the network/the smartest people in crypto? Who would you like/suggest to be the developers of Bitcoin, frankandbeans?


I'm not reading all that. But I'm happy for you, or I'm sorry that happened.

you keep mentioning the trust rating.. its meaningless because your group of idiots caused it

people should learn from actual blockdata, code and understanding of bitcoin.. not some idiot group of social drama queens like your silly cult and their agenda. i dont want suck-ups either im not looking to form a fanbase of people trusting me either, people should do their own research and learn the facts..

as for the trust rating:
the debates 8+ years ago that heightened over the years into discourse, is that i kept informing people that segwit will/did/has triggered an exploit that allows JUNK DATA
and guess what.. years later ordinals proved my case

also the promises of segwit being the solution to allow more transactions on the bitcoin network were fake/broken/empty promises
because many devs even back in 2010 said that bitcoin can handle over 4000tx... and yet in 2024 we are still not going way above 4k tx average. even when blocks are 4x of the satoshi days.. meaning we should be averaging or expecting 16k but nope still at 4k average(and less)

now go do your research and realise the biggest idiot you idolise(doomad) was the biggest cry baby wanting me moderated and banned from this forum because i kept correcting him.

even your rhetoric of "big blocker" is not even a thought of your own its the implications made by doomad that you blindly recite that those calling out on CORES short comings must be some "big blocker" group. where there is an attempt of social drama to pidgeon hole anyone not religiously following core like god/idols must be some altcoin group
you shamefully do not even think that me and thousands of people are discussing bitcoin scaling. which is not the rhetoric you blindly think it is.
so go learn what real bitcoin scaling is and stop just reciting silly rhetoric from a group of idiots that have been debunked many times via data and code(real source information). bitcoin scaling is not "big blocker" exaggerations..
bitcoin scaling is not "idolise core as central government or f**k off to another network"
learn what bitcoin scaling actually is

i dare you to try and find some REAL mis information i gave and show me hard data, code that proves your case
realise something upfront though
all your belligerent posts of using insults you cant even come up with yourself but using doomads words and references, are just copies of doomads silliness and i have already debunked his mindset of how he thinks of things like consensus and segwit.. so actually do some proper research before you post because if you just want to recite doomad rhetoric, you will instantly loose

try to learn for once to not trust people blindly/unchecked.. and instead use data and code as your source of bitcoin information. trusting a mentor like you had admitted even in your post.. shows you are not ready to learn bitcoin and instead just want to play social games of trusting cult players
and just reciting silly stories that earn you the title of also being called an idiot by showing your repeated idiocy

so take some time to actually do some research away from doomads rhetoric. and please dont just reply acting like a victim refusing to learn or pretending you have learned things from idiots or crying that i call them idiots.. actually be prepared to learn or stop playing your cultish games. dont cry about it

your cultish games and social drama's are as bad as CSW's games.. stop being a copycat.. and no dont pretend your copycat tactics are actually your own independent idea's... as it really would be you doing a CSW

Distancing is probably a sound advice coming from his lawyer. But the tweets aren't going to absolve him very much because there's the lies to those people that he talked to and those aren't going to be easily dismissed that his employees did it when he's the one that's been seen. The argument about the tweets are probably just some kind of hail Mary to at least try to make the sentence a bit more shorter or at the least make it more or less that he's not guilty of all that he's been accused of, such a determination from this man to be able to do this and keep on lying when he's been debunked time and time again.

You have no mentors, but merely propagating the lies and the disinformation of people that have an Anti-Bitcoin agenda. OK.

There should be no mentors, we merely should know which group of people we should learn from. They're not always right, they're human, but I have full confidence that they're not nefarious. There are also big blockers that I respect, like Deadalnix. The direction he wants for Bitcoin's development may be different, but he isn't a liar. He's not like you.

Plus who should the newbies of BitcoinTalk learn from? You? Or the those people who gave you the red color in your trust-rating?

i have no mentors but your mindset of you needing one makes you beleive other people need one too
cult members always think the rest of the world belongs in other religions..

im independent and atheist and i laugh at the foolish games of idiots in their silly groups using beleif and trust to fool each other into scamming each other using nothing but faith and idolisations

as for research DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH
look at the data and code.. learn from actual sources
research from quotes of the people you talk about from years ago.. actually learn stuff
not your mentor

stop relying on being spoonfed then you wont need to cry like a baby when you get spoonfed
try for once to be independent

99% of your posts are not independant posts with unique thoughts of your own mind. they are simply reciting words told to you by your mentor.. you cant even think of your own insult for me, you even became so enslaved that you use your mentors insults
the reason i call you an idiot, because that is how you chose to act. by choosing to act like the shadow/echo of your mentor
try to escape acting like an idiot if you dont want to be assumed/accused of being one. learn about bitcoin and actual real facts away from the echo chamber you trapped yourself in.. your current path is not making yourself any better then the drones/zombies/idiots of BSV

i have never asked you or told you to beleive me i have always told you and others to do your own research.. so for once try it
and no research is not to ask your mentors what to think, instead try to have your own mind for once an look at the source material.. and just stop asking your mentor to spoon feed you sauces.. your mentors sauces are not sources

here is other examples:
when you learn that gavin took a payday from the NYA group via their sponsorship of BLOQ you will see all the bait and switch stuff too
you can google it and learn stuff independently away from your mentor

From who? You? Hahaha! Laughable.


Is that the truth, or are you gaslighting/making things up again, frankandbeans? Because by saying that through a written post, and making everyone believe that to be true, could be considered libel.


Is this 4D Chess? You're making false statements against your mentors for me to defend them? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

his game is distancing himself..
his next stance would be that his tweets over many years were done by his employee's and not him, whereby he allowed them access to his account and nothing ever said were his words from his human self.. he just allowed them because there was no "proof" either way
(in courts its called plausible deniability/reasonable doubt)
so he can escape any criminal acts of promotin a scammer/fraudster by making suggestions his tweets were never his and he this year completely separated from the account once courts found out his tweets about CSW were lies

Thank you for the information. It's really deceptive move though, average reader would wrongfully assume it's written by Calvin himself.


Many altcoin or token website have similar appearance or marketing word with BSV website though.

you need to learn alot more about EVERYTHING

gavin andressen wanted to retire from bitcoin.. he said in like 2010-11 that he would only spend 5 more years invovled in bitcoin.... so knowing 2015-16 was his retirement plan he took whatever golden handshake he could find and leave.. knowing his reputation didnt matter
so he took the money to say bullcrap. thinking it would not lead to anything big, and thought the drama would die out in months. so no harm no foul
yes later when he was out of contract he come clean..

R.Ver is a business man and with the troubled of bitinstant debacle he needed to pivot. he didnt intend to create BCH, BCH was created for him via the mandated rejection of old versionbit blocks(via the core sponsores(nya) bait and switch). and so he took that opportunity. and then done a deal with CSW a year later to help break BCH to BSV and was bought into promoting CSW. again for a payday..
even calvin ayres and nguyen and others sponsoring BSV dont truly believe in CSW they are just looking for riches from promoting his schemes with empty promises of huge returns

its obvious no one believed in CSW and then wised up..  but instead they were guided by payouts thinking they can get rich and then CSW drama would kill itself instantly thus not cause long term issues, thus didnt care to promote a nonsense story for a while

even your mentor is not guided by information or proof, nor care for things that actually benefit bitcoiners. he is guided by empty promises of his own possible future riches if he promotes stupid stuff like recruiting people to move to other networks.. as for your motives to ignore actual block data, actual code, actual history, actual things that can benefit bitcoin.. to instead just idolise and trust idiots because they show friendliness(or make promises to you).. well thats your own story to tell one day

This is like Craig is putting Himself to be a Nail that the more  he lies is the more he is being hammered down to the smallest inches , and with that for sure realization will come his way after being put in Jail behind bars lol.
and also  How I wish that he will lose everything because of this  lying and stupidity .

That sort of gaslighting will not work anymore. How stupid do they actually believe the community currently is after Craig Wright was condemned by the very people who have revolted, in some way, against Bitcoin. I have come to respect Vitalik Buterin, Marc Andresen, and Roger Ver for saying that Craig is NOT Satoshi. That shows that their hearts are in the right place, although opinions, beliefs, and understanding of things in Bitcoin Land differ.

HAha, this shit is still ongoing, I was not surprised with the last updates and the narrative he tired to build up, anyway OP thanks for this update as I can discuss this topic with more references while having one on one discussion with the friends and family.


Ahh, well you know some people likes to stretch the gum for no reason he's probably one of them not probably definitely he's one of them. Haha I can call it open and shut stupidity.

Lies are short lived.  Particularly when lies are made on such a big scale.

In the situation of Craig, I wonder how he did not see this coming back when he started the big lie.  He could of even backed out by pretending it was a joke all along, but this could of happened many years ago.  It is too late now.

Unfortunately for him but fortunately for us, he will see the consequence of his actions some day.  Particularly when he offended and tried to taint the reputation of such a large community.

Craig, get yourself ready.  The time for truth may have come, and you will not like it.  In fact.  You never did.

To be fair, I visited the BitcoinSV website today for the first time and now I am not shocked by the fact that it is popular. People are too lazy to double-check information and BitcoinSV promotes itself like an original Bitcoin, so I am not surprised if many people got trapped by that. On their timeline, it's written that Dr.Craig Wright is the creator of Bitcoin who was using the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto, then it says that he got very explicit because Bitcoin was used by criminals and it's a very populist statement because people believe that it's used by criminals.

In overall, he is a liar who lies to everyone.

https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1768619693449883862
march 15th


CA is not writing for BSV, he handed his online accounts to a marketing team

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their latest stupidity and false claim is:

by the judge freezing CSW assets
and those assets being BSV associated
they are again now claiming BSV is bitcoin made by satoshi so pretending the judges freeze of CSW assets is proof of satoshi

they keep forgetting that bsv came into existence in 2018 not 2009

Do you have source for that statement? I just checked coingeek (BSV propaganda website) and it seems Calvin Arye just write another propaganda yesterday.

P.S. i don't include link since i don't want to give free backlink and bumping their position on google search result.

Craig Wright is a liar and a thief, and I am so glad that the courts have finally publicly denied his claims of being Satoshi. Despite all manipulative evidence that Craig has brought forward over the years, it was always clear from a perspective of character and attitude that he was not Satoshi. The real Satoshi would never sue early Bitcoin developers for defamation and try to ruin their personal lives. It is honestly disgusting behaviour.

no the actual court order was to do a international court order to freeze all assets before he could put them into other shell/trust/company names. he nor the court implied CSW has £6m .. however the £6m is the amount he owes the court to pay for the court and COPA costs

CSW insinuated that he would move funds into his sisters name to then suggest CSW had no money and his sister was not on trial so (his) her money should not be touched. which was one of the reasons to do the international freeze of all assets

The backing mostly coming from Calvin Ayre which will not be there anymore now that it has been announced that Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi. "Craig Wright = Satoshi" was they're only leverage against the community to fool people into believing that Bitcoin Cash SV is therefore the "real Bitcoin". Calvin Ayre won't be wasting more of his own money on something that will never make him a return on his investment.

BSV rank is partially because he still have some backing, but it's also true some people are dumb or crazy for buying BSV. Anyway, if he decide to perform confiscation stealing and considering BSV is fork of BCH where BCH is fork of BTC, i bet he'll steal BSV from old address which supposed to be owned by Satoshi to make another false claim that he's Satoshi.

That's probably very relieving for Calvin Ayre, who is said to be paying for everything in the fork of the forked shitcoin Bitcoin Cash SV project. The miners, the website, CoinGeek, the developers, the marketing are all paid with Calvin Ayre's money. I believe one by one they will leave Craig Wright's side and throw him into the fire if the government gos after them for their involvement with a con-artist. Roger Ver was by him fooled once. Nassim Taleb is still being fooled.

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I think he has already said he has millions because I saw in today's news headline that "U.K. court freezes £6M of Craig Wright’s assets amid Bitcoin creator claim"


Yes, we know Craig Wright is not Satoshi but what I don't understand is his real motive and the reason why he still has to lie under oath multiple times when he fully knows he can't win.
The question I always ask myself is that he's trying to be popular even though that's the fact there are ways to be popular rather than doing it dubiously.

IMO, the most important part has already happened. Namely, quoting the court document the op shared,
That's a great judgement, and I'm really happy that the COPA managed to prove it in court (as they were the ones who had to prove Craig was fake, so if they simply hadn't had enough evidence, Craig would've won the case).
The rest, it seems, it about getting Craig to cover the cost of the trial, which amounts to £6 million. The judge recommends freezing Craigs assets to make sure the transfer will happen, and Craig is perhaps trying to evade.

They should take him to the criminal court because if he gets left without punishment, then many people will abuse the system. It's idiotic that Craig Wright was able to waste so many years in court because. This is definitely the result of a loophole in the law. Because of this stupidity, Cobra had to remove Bitcoin whitepaper from bitcoin.org for UK people.

Bitcoin SV is ranked 62nd out of all listed cryptocurrencies on Coinmarketcap. Super impressive result if we consider that this is a shitcoin run by a scammer that proves again that too many people are dumb. I wouldn't be shocked if Craig Wright confiscates many Bitcoin SV and we will see shocked customers (they deserve to be fair).

In fact, I think that he should be pushed to the very end. He needs to pay every last penny for the damage done to individuals and the community, and possibly deserves a substantial prison sentence for falsifying evidence, perjury, and more.

He is a scammer and should be punished for his crimes so that he can be an example to others.

A long case, but in the end CSW only ended up with ridiculousness and fines to pay,
otherwise it would be criminal charges that would lead him further into the matter.

But I like the scenario you think, there has to be an emphasis on the amount of bail set so that he can't leave this criminal case peacefully, he really has to account for it.

Ever since I entered the crypto space, I have always been bombarded with news that CSW is Satoshi and openly claimed.
In 2015 after Wired and Gizmodo magazine raised the possibility of him being Nakamoto in a December 2015 article,
he was linked to the news about the real Satoshi, and it became his motivation to continue doxing that he was the real Satoshi, even though he was just a liar.

https://www.wired.com/2015/12/bitcoins-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-this-unknown-australian-genius/

Which goes to show there are a whole lot of stupid people in the world who are easily fooled.
That is why people are still wasting their money on crap like memecoins, NFTs, altcoins, etc.

So many people fall for romance scams, get rich quick schemes, etc. and end up losing their life savings to some scammer in Nigeria or India.

Billions of dollars are lost every year due to greed and stupidity. It never ceases to amaze me how gullible people are.

I'm still quite giddy being that Craig Wright was deemed to not be Satoshi according to a court of law.  What amazes me about the whole Craig Wright ordeal is that he has/had fooled so many people in to believing it even though he didn't and can't prove it, because well he's not satoshi.  Yet if you visit the BSV reddit or twitter page you'll see that there are actually a good amount of people supporting him even still, which is crazy.

I lost track of this case for some weeks. Great that CSW has been ruled against and assets frozen. It was about time someone really took him serious, his constant statements undermined Bitcoin and for how ridiculous they were, some actually believed it.

I can only hope this is the last we heard of him.

As soon as it became clear that he was not the real Satoshi Nakamoto, it raised some questions and he needed to give many explanations.

If the money found in his pocket could be determined to have been obtained by illegal means, he would be in deep trouble with the law. Whether the money is illegal or not, accepting donations from supporters who think he is Satoshi Nakamoto could raise ethical and legal questions.

From all the evidence, it is clear that Craig Wright is in trouble of a more complex nature. Revealing that he was not Satoshi Nakamoto meant he lost face, followers, and even his life savings. But not telling the truth could put him at greater risk of trial.

No matter the backing anyone has 6.2 million euros. It won't be a small amount of money for such a person and side that we are talking about the court case in which many Bitcoin enthusiasts are against Craig Wright. Besides, after this case is over we will see another cryptocurrency firm/enthusiast that will raise another charge against him because it's him against the millions of BTC supporters, and if care is not taken there's a chance for him to go bankrupt.

He's not going to get any success because a Faketoshi can't ever get the title of great Satoshi and that we all know, so no matter how hard he tried he'll still fall on his back.

This is going to be his last hope to make others believe that he's the legendary Satoshi Nakamoto, but I can clearly say that he'll fail once again like he has been failed many times in past.

Thomas Edison attempted many times to make the bulb and finally got success after so many failed attempts but this guy won't get success even with 100 thousand attempts.

Faketoshis have already lost the case and the next phase is for him to pay for damages. Not only he could not produce the private keys to Satoshi's 1.1m Bitcoin but the claim that he authored the Bitcoin Whitepaper has been disputed since the copy he presented to the court was written with a software called LaTeX while the original white paper was written OpenOffice software. I think he would not be sent to prison but would pay a fine and will be mandated by the court to stop claiming that he is the inventor of Bitcoin.

Craig Wright should be put in jail. Continually, he is lying again and again. For false evidence, he should be in jail, in my opinion. Singing a message from his Bitcoin address would make everything clear. If he claims it has been lost, then he isn't a Bitcoin creator. Because Bitcoin creators must know, losing wallet access means funds are gone. I believe Satoshi will never try to prove himself anyway; he won't fight for that. Because, actually, he doesn't want to reveal himself. 

Judge James Mellor ordered a worldwide freeze on 6 million pounds of Craig Wright's assets to pay COPA's legal costs.

www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/03/29/uk-judge-freezes-craig-wright-assets-to-prevent-him-evading-court-costs/


Hah! He can start a Gofundme to get his idiot supporters to pay for it.

No one knows the real facts of Satoshi Nakamoto. Craig Wright is not Satoshi It's well known that you'll get into a lot of trouble for releasing false information like this. There are very detailed deep dives into the many personal aspects of the deception that Craig Wright does during his ever-failing quest to be recognized as someone he clearly isn't Satoshi Nakamoto. But it's fair to say that those long forms mostly cater to a niche audience. Craig will be charged with legal cases based on fraud.

I will prefer that they they dig more deeper into craig case and his asset source maybe they will find something new and different to law suit against him and charge him, he never know the implication of this he has started not until he had the very best surprise of himself at the cause, people like him will think they can do something nasty and just get away with it like that, i trust US for things like this, if they wish, they can dig more concerning him and find something crook.

Do we really need to discuss this since for what I think there's a lot of people already know about this news and they already prove that Craig Wright is a total lier. He didn't succeed with his lies so now its better to buried up his name and he's not deserving to gain any further discussion since it will just hype his name again in other aspect. Better for people to stop mentioning his name so that he would be totally forgotten and if someone will remember him they will just think about he is the guy who lose in court for faking his claim that he is the great Satoshi Nakamoto. For sure he will be ashamed for that and maybe he don't want to remember this since he's been exposed for faking everything just for clout.

I think in the end it will just be a waste of time with unnecessary talk.
From the beginning we already know that in the end Craig Wright is not Satoshi so why push too hard because in the end everything will remain the same where Satoshi cannot be claimed by anyone.
I'm actually not too interested in this kind of thing because I think it's just a way to get more sensation for some people including Craig Wright.

We don't need to waste time looking further into this because the result will still be the same where Craig Wright will not be able to become Satoshi no matter how hard he tries to force himself with his claim, it will just be nonsense.

Even with backing he still have, i doubt 6.2 million Euro is small amount for him. Now i wonder whether he'll sell any BSV he have or even steal other's BSV through centralized confiscation feature[1] in order to cover COPA's legal cost.

[1] https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoin-sv-hardfork-significant-security-risks/

this topic is not about the verdict.. this is now about his financial ability to pay for the courts waste of time and paying copas cost for the waste of time
(and hopefully would lead to criminal proceedings or other lawsuits to drain CSW of all reputation/funds he has scammed)

It was proven that he was not Satoshi Nakamoto in reality. And whatever the verdict is on him, he deserves it because he cheated people in the crypto or bitcoin community. What will he gain? right? fame? It seems like there is no reason in my opinion.

Also, we already know that, so let's not waste any more time on that, in fact, because no one has ever seen Satoshi Nakamoto and we don't even know if the Bitcoin creator is a real person or a fake- just made.

The money probably didn't came from an illegal activities but nonetheless they're probably dirty, I mean he's got a lot of supporters that believes he's Satoshi Nakamoto so it's not impossible to infer that he's got some kind of financial support from those people. I don't think that CSW will ever consider telling that he's not really Satoshi Nakamoto, he'll probably going to commit to that joke until he's on his grave, the delusion that he's got is just too strong to admit defeat in the face of an unrelenting adversity which is jail time, dude probably regretting it inside but has to commit all the way.

True. I thought that it was over already, but I suppose this man is not going to give up. Still don't think that he's gonna convince anyone.

by losing the case, he has to pay the lawyers costs of COPA, so they want to know his financial position (possibility of being paid £6.7m($8.5m))


if he says zero to avoid paying anything it destroys his rep of being rich and able to pay his promises to his sponsors and the courts
if he says he has millions.. bye bye millions (he will have to hand it over as compensation)

..
speculation: (my thoughts on future maybe's)
seems they want to know how much he says he has, so maybe they can also sue him/charge him criminally for past issues
(EG when CSW funds are locked due to this case, they can quickly sue him and use the lock to ensure he pays future case)
but my dream scenario is they use the information to then take him to criminal court and set a bail amount for millions so that he cant just walk away from a criminal case

It was already proven that he is indeed not satoshi nakamoto so he has a lot of explaining to do. He will be in even worse trouble if the money he has accumulated came from illegal activities. I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes right now.

In the High Court of Justice Business and Property of England and Wales yesterday COPA which is Crypto Open Patent Alliance the team formed by Square, Inc., Payward Ventures, Inc. (DBA Kraken), Microstrategy, Inc., and Coinbase, Inc.
Submitted a claim that Craig Wright lied and double-down on his lies, on a grand scale that he's Satoshi Nakamoto that he has given extensive and elaborate dishonest evidence under oath in multiple sets of proceedings, and also considers that he (Craig Wright) forged documents, plus changed his story several times.

Craig Wright was told to provide Wright with a clear explanation of all his assets as early as possible. The return date is Friday 12 April 2024, with the
provision of information due by 4 pm on Friday 5 April, and the Affidavit due by 4 pm on Wednesday 10 April.

Here is the full detailed pdf file.