crazy online prices - on eBay for Bitmain S9's

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Quote from: Freemine-001010 on November 18, 2019, 10:39:52 PM

check this out

https://www.ebay.com/itm/50-Bitmain-Antminer-S9J-14-0th-22-S9J-14-5th-28-Includes-50-APW3-PSU/293337342537

900 shipped , but starting bid 139$ 50 antminers 14-14.5 th model with psu

its over 2k already.

Quote from: Lutfioz05 on November 20, 2019, 06:25:47 PM

https://www.ebay.com/sch/romejoejo/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

yea i see lots of those... expired almost 9 months ago.

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https://www.ebay.com/sch/romejoejo/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

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check this out

https://www.ebay.com/itm/50-Bitmain-Antminer-S9J-14-0th-22-S9J-14-5th-28-Includes-50-APW3-PSU/293337342537

900 shipped , but starting bid 139$ 50 antminers 14-14.5 th model with psu

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so just cruising ebay last night and saw an auction for 4 s9i miners, current bid was at 227 +65 shipping = qty 4 , s9i units no power supply

so i thought why not, but it must have an auto bid that would be prob 340 + auto bid that would have made them still a nice 100 $ per unit,

still not a bad price, even with 7c power they still make about 30$ a month x 4 =120$ so they will help pay the power bill for the s17pro's

so i bid 295 to see what would happen , i bid at 18 seconds left, and got them all in 315 for 4 s9i miners , no psu, but i have one of the ibm server

core power supply's that does 2 units and 1 spare apw++ i can use , i just cant stop buying these things

if anyone wants to buy one ill let it go for 115-120 no psu, i just need the 3 , shipped to usa only , ill do escrow through

philipma1957 or Stryfe ,

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Quote from: Freemine-001010 on November 16, 2019, 01:38:53 PM

i just orderd 7 of the s17pro miners from cargober we will see how this goes,

nice!

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i just orderd 7 of the s17pro miners from cargober we will see how this goes,

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Quote from: Freemine-001010 on November 16, 2019, 04:07:33 AM

s17 on ebay , but doesnt take paypal because of volatility of crypto message for payment

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Bitmain-Antminer-S17-Pro-53-TH-s-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner/233402919490?hash=item3657e5ea42:g:8EAAAOSwovNdzfya

and these posts.... I see dozens of them each week many times the same user - eBay policy strictly prohibits this and states they sanction/ban the sellers but I still see the same guys over and over.

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s17 on ebay , but doesnt take paypal because of volatility of crypto message for payment

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Bitmain-Antminer-S17-Pro-53-TH-s-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner/233402919490?hash=item3657e5ea42:g:8EAAAOSwovNdzfya

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Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on November 14, 2019, 08:37:31 PM

I understood that - and my point was that is the same thing in my opinion. and I understand that they are click bait - what amazes me is the prospect that even one of them might get someone ignorant to pay that much to begin with. lol

Ebay never fails to deliver on the dimwit front. On UK Ebay people sell Euros and Dollars for considerably above what you will pay even at the airport yet people seem to pay it, the prices never come near the market rates.

It only takes one buyer stupid enough and you've doubled or tripled your money on one of these. Many a seller will try it on and many a buyer will deliver.

I'd be interested to know what the moan/chargeback rates are but perhaps buyers remain stupid enough to not realise they've been raped. It's not the type of thing you'll find unless you can be bothered to look pretty hard and many people can't be arsed to step outside their usual channels.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on November 14, 2019, 05:02:50 PM

I'm not really talking about credit cards fees or any of that wonky stuff. People try to bake in the cost of the 10% ebay fees into either the sales price or the shipping as a way to recoup the fee from paypal and/or ebay. Either way those miners wont sell at those crazy prices they are just click bait hoping they get someone dumb enough to actually pay those prices.

I understood that - and my point was that is the same thing in my opinion. and I understand that they are click bait - what amazes me is the prospect that even one of them might get someone ignorant to pay that much to begin with. lol

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Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on November 14, 2019, 04:22:45 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on November 14, 2019, 02:27:41 PM

You are one of the lucky sellers than. I know too many peoe that have sold on Ebay only to have people mine, then months later claim it was broken when they recieved it. I guess as a buyer not a big issue since you have that protection but still, you are bound to pay higher prices because you have the ebay fees sellers have to account for. The high prices is nothing new to ebay though, people do it hoping to get a lucky hit. Waste of internet space usually though.

I don't charge extra for the fees - unlike most, I accept the fees as the cost of doing business - without the services for which I have to pay fees for, I would not have the sales to begin with.

I completely detest companies that charge stuff like credit card processing fees to customers and things such as that. Again, I see it as the cost of doing business.

I'm not really talking about credit cards fees or any of that wonky stuff. People try to bake in the cost of the 10% ebay fees into either the sales price or the shipping as a way to recoup the fee from paypal and/or ebay. Either way those miners wont sell at those crazy prices they are just click bait hoping they get someone dumb enough to actually pay those prices.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on November 14, 2019, 02:27:41 PM

You are one of the lucky sellers than. I know too many peoe that have sold on Ebay only to have people mine, then months later claim it was broken when they recieved it. I guess as a buyer not a big issue since you have that protection but still, you are bound to pay higher prices because you have the ebay fees sellers have to account for. The high prices is nothing new to ebay though, people do it hoping to get a lucky hit. Waste of internet space usually though.

I don't charge extra for the fees - unlike most, I accept the fees as the cost of doing business - without the services for which I have to pay fees for, I would not have the sales to begin with.

I completely detest companies that charge stuff like credit card processing fees to customers and things such as that. Again, I see it as the cost of doing business.

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Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on November 14, 2019, 01:56:01 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on November 14, 2019, 01:02:48 PM

Buyer protection is huge. I sold one gpu on ebay and it all went smooth, then the inevitable "unit didnt work" claim came in months later. It was sealed in the box brand new and PayPal still sided with them. Ebay is a joke. Those prices are usually a ruse
It goes like this. Set up a price for one @ $2k then set up another at $1k and make that look like a bargain. It's a buy trap. Steer clear if ebay and you will be good

Oh, I buy from eBay quite often - but I always do my own research before purchasing. As for selling - I have sold iPads, PC's, Laptops, Cameras, Miners etc - and have had zero returns and zero issues.

There was only one where the person who bought my scrypt miners could not get them working at first, but that was eventually resolved - If I recall, he just need to reset the pool information. The BWL21's were finicky at best and would not always save the information in the UI.

You are one of the lucky sellers than. I know too many peoe that have sold on Ebay only to have people mine, then months later claim it was broken when they recieved it. I guess as a buyer not a big issue since you have that protection but still, you are bound to pay higher prices because you have the ebay fees sellers have to account for. The high prices is nothing new to ebay though, people do it hoping to get a lucky hit. Waste of internet space usually though.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on November 14, 2019, 01:02:48 PM

Buyer protection is huge. I sold one gpu on ebay and it all went smooth, then the inevitable "unit didnt work" claim came in months later. It was sealed in the box brand new and PayPal still sided with them. Ebay is a joke. Those prices are usually a ruse
It goes like this. Set up a price for one @ $2k then set up another at $1k and make that look like a bargain. It's a buy trap. Steer clear if ebay and you will be good

Oh, I buy from eBay quite often - but I always do my own research before purchasing. As for selling - I have sold iPads, PC's, Laptops, Cameras, Miners etc - and have had zero returns and zero issues.

There was only one where the person who bought my scrypt miners could not get them working at first, but that was eventually resolved - If I recall, he just need to reset the pool information. The BWL21's were finicky at best and would not always save the information in the UI.

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Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on November 13, 2019, 08:45:22 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on November 13, 2019, 08:37:39 PM

Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on November 13, 2019, 12:28:52 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on November 13, 2019, 12:24:36 PM

I imagine if any of those sold for those inflated prices, they’d be returned shortly thereafter causing headaches for everyone involved.

simply put, eBay allows a seller to list items as "not returnable" - then the only issue that can cause a return and subsequent refund is if the item does not work as specified. So, all they need to do is supply a miner that functions as it should - then the price does not matter as the buyer cannot return it simply because they do not like the price.

Buyers claiming a malfunction always receive the benefit of the doubt from PayPal/eBay regardless of what the seller says beforehand.

true - I did not think of that but if funds are released upon delivery - they are only held by PayPal until delivery - the seller can simply remove the funds from PayPal - unlink their banking info from the PayPal account and walk away. Then there are no funds to return to the buyer.

Buyer protection is huge. I sold one gpu on ebay and it all went smooth, then the inevitable "unit didnt work" claim came in months later. It was sealed in the box brand new and PayPal still sided with them. Ebay is a joke. Those prices are usually a ruse
It goes like this. Set up a price for one @ $2k then set up another at $1k and make that look like a bargain. It's a buy trap. Steer clear if ebay and you will be good

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 13, 2019, 08:37:39 PM

Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on November 13, 2019, 12:28:52 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on November 13, 2019, 12:24:36 PM

I imagine if any of those sold for those inflated prices, they’d be returned shortly thereafter causing headaches for everyone involved.

simply put, eBay allows a seller to list items as "not returnable" - then the only issue that can cause a return and subsequent refund is if the item does not work as specified. So, all they need to do is supply a miner that functions as it should - then the price does not matter as the buyer cannot return it simply because they do not like the price.

Buyers claiming a malfunction always receive the benefit of the doubt from PayPal/eBay regardless of what the seller says beforehand.

true - I did not think of that but if funds are released upon delivery - they are only held by PayPal until delivery - the seller can simply remove the funds from PayPal - unlink their banking info from the PayPal account and walk away. Then there are no funds to return to the buyer.

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Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on November 13, 2019, 12:28:52 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on November 13, 2019, 12:24:36 PM

I imagine if any of those sold for those inflated prices, they’d be returned shortly thereafter causing headaches for everyone involved.

simply put, eBay allows a seller to list items as "not returnable" - then the only issue that can cause a return and subsequent refund is if the item does not work as specified. So, all they need to do is supply a miner that functions as it should - then the price does not matter as the buyer cannot return it simply because they do not like the price.

Buyers claiming a malfunction always receive the benefit of the doubt from PayPal/eBay regardless of what the seller says beforehand.

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here is another set of listings that are out there - for coupons that expired 8 months ago...

https://www.ebay.com/sch/romejoejo/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

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Quote from: Freemine-001010 on November 13, 2019, 01:25:45 PM

out of the 9 i bought on ebay the most expensive one was 224 shipped, and it was a 14th model

most of the s9 boards were between 600-631 factory set frequency
some of them had 632-665 ish frequency settings and hash a bit better and at lower temps doing 15-16 @ 84c vs the lower freq doing 13-14 @ 88c

i have only gotten one miner with a bad board, could have been dropped or something but the other 2 boards are going strong and i just got a board for 70 free shipping off ebay
i could use the shipping ins but kids got to the package materials before i could take lots of picts so doubtful ups will refund, they did offer to pickup the damaged miner and attempt
to fix or determine the damage , ill prob just take the loss and move on

again these are reasonable deals - the purpose of this thread was pointing out the unreasonable ones.

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out of the 9 i bought on ebay the most expensive one was 224 shipped, and it was a 14th model

most of the s9 boards were between 600-631 factory set frequency
some of them had 632-665 ish frequency settings and hash a bit better and at lower temps doing 15-16 @ 84c vs the lower freq doing 13-14 @ 88c

i have only gotten one miner with a bad board, could have been dropped or something but the other 2 boards are going strong and i just got a board for 70 free shipping off ebay
i could use the shipping ins but kids got to the package materials before i could take lots of picts so doubtful ups will refund, they did offer to pickup the damaged miner and attempt
to fix or determine the damage , ill prob just take the loss and move on

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 13, 2019, 12:24:36 PM

I imagine if any of those sold for those inflated prices, they’d be returned shortly thereafter causing headaches for everyone involved.

simply put, eBay allows a seller to list items as "not returnable" - then the only issue that can cause a return and subsequent refund is if the item does not work as specified. So, all they need to do is supply a miner that functions as it should - then the price does not matter as the buyer cannot return it simply because they do not like the price.

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I imagine if any of those sold for those inflated prices, they’d be returned shortly thereafter causing headaches for everyone involved.

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Quote from: Freemine-001010 on November 12, 2019, 09:49:06 PM

here is a crazy pirce i just got an s9 with psu for 152.50 shipped

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174087496061?_trksid=p2471758.m4703&autorefresh=true

and 157

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174087500743?_trksid=p2471758.m4703&autorefresh=true

gotta love ebay auctions

those are realistic though and reasonable.

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here is a crazy pirce i just got an s9 with psu for 152.50 shipped

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174087496061?_trksid=p2471758.m4703&autorefresh=true

and 157

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174087500743?_trksid=p2471758.m4703&autorefresh=true

gotta love ebay auctions

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Quote from: Freemine-001010 on November 12, 2019, 11:51:51 AM

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Quote from: Freemine-001010 on November 12, 2019, 12:31:18 AM

but its the dec batch , must be good , heard on turbo s9 can do 40+th
just immerse in liquid nitrogen !!

lol - I saw a S17 Pro this morning

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Bitmain-Antminer-S17-PRO-53TH-s-62TH-s-Bitcoin-BTC-Miner-w-PSU-READ-DESCRPTN/362673056938?

$60k USD - this is for 10 units so $6k each. Only 3 times what it costs to buy direct...

that one has been up for months like 3 months

regardless - still insane prices.
I wonder how many gullible people buy these? and could I sleep at night by selling my 17's for similar?

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Quote from: MoparMiningLLC on November 12, 2019, 08:09:51 AM

Quote from: Freemine-001010 on November 12, 2019, 12:31:18 AM

but its the dec batch , must be good , heard on turbo s9 can do 40+th
just immerse in liquid nitrogen !!

lol - I saw a S17 Pro this morning

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Bitmain-Antminer-S17-PRO-53TH-s-62TH-s-Bitcoin-BTC-Miner-w-PSU-READ-DESCRPTN/362673056938?

$60k USD - this is for 10 units so $6k each. Only 3 times what it costs to buy direct...

that one has been up for months like 3 months

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Quote from: Freemine-001010 on November 12, 2019, 12:31:18 AM

but its the dec batch , must be good , heard on turbo s9 can do 40+th
just immerse in liquid nitrogen !!

lol - I saw a S17 Pro this morning

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Bitmain-Antminer-S17-PRO-53TH-s-62TH-s-Bitcoin-BTC-Miner-w-PSU-READ-DESCRPTN/362673056938?

$60k USD - this is for 10 units so $6k each. Only 3 times what it costs to buy direct...

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but its the dec batch , must be good , heard on turbo s9 can do 40+th
just immerse in liquid nitrogen !!

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 11, 2019, 11:02:16 PM

well compared to the m10 i am selling for 700 plus shipping. they are a bit too costly Roll Eyes

right???

here is another one for 9k...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Antminer-S9-with-PSU-2018-March-batch-Same-day-shipping/282963093293?hash=item41e1ea272d:g:xrUAAOSwzrNa9cUW

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well compared to the m10 i am selling for 700 plus shipping. they are a bit too costly Roll Eyes

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or this nice s9 for sale only 800 no psu because the owner just ordered new s9's to replace them ... yea trying to get noobs to pay for your s17pro lol

https://www.ebay.com/itm/BitMain-AntMiner-S9-13-5TH-s-BitCoin-Miners-NEW-LOWER-PRICE/302736513589?hash=item467c809a35:g:1HQAAOSwjS9a9vtl

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitmain-Antminer-S9-Home-Farm-6-each-miners-APW3-cat-5e-220-v-cords-switch/332552174219?hash=item4d6da77a8b:g:aRsAAOSwOA1aQJ-K

here is a nice one ,

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They are just targeting newbies who aren't too familiar with mining rigs & their prices. They are probably waiting for that 1 sale desperately haha

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I know, look at this one.

Bitmain Antminer S9 replacement hashboard, fully functional.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitmain-Antminer-S9-replacement-hashboard-fully-functional/222827790553

US $1,700.00 + Shipping:$50.00 Standard Shipping

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Quote from: Freemine-001010 on November 10, 2019, 08:29:38 PM

im sure they are hoping for some newbb to think its a s17 or t17 ect and just buy it not knowing,

really sad to prey on people this way.

at least thats my opinion , even new s9 with the better chips on bitmain for 438ish

exactly! he kept saying I did not understand the two other reasons (other than financial) for mining bitcoin. I know there are other reasons, but even if you are not mining for the profit, it still makes sense to mine in the way that will still save you the most money as well.

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im sure they are hoping for some newbb to think its a s17 or t17 ect and just buy it not knowing,

really sad to prey on people this way.

at least thats my opinion , even new s9 with the better chips on bitmain for 438ish

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I wonder who would buy at these prices? do these guys actually get sales?

this one is the cheapest of the crazy prices that I saw today 1499
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IN-HAND-NEW-Bitmain-Antminer-S9-13-5TH-With-Antminer-Power-Supply-APW3/143199429940?epid=10023346379&hash=item215759e534:g:x0sAAOSwjQhcpFJv

this one stepped it up to 4995
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Bitmain-Antminer-S9-13-5TH-s-with-Power-Supply-In-Hand-Ready-to-Ship/282822814500?

this one goes a bit further and wants 7000 with $100 to ship
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitmain-Antminer-S9-13-5TH-s-with-APW3-PSU-IN-HAND-READY-TO-SHIP-NOW/123141314646?_

and then this one was the most crazy price I saw today... 12,000
he added the following tidbit of information:

"1 Day Old. Opened and Mining flawlessly at 13.7TH. Price is firm, These units are hard to get and profitable. Will ship immediately upon receipt of payment."

while they can be profitable, that really depends on the users electricity cost - but it is not worth anywhere near 12k
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitmain-Antminer-S9-13-5-THs-w-Bitmain-APW3-PSU-in-Hand-Ready-to-Ship-BTC-BCH/182995734788?

If they find people willing to pay these prices, I sold all my S9's to the wrong folks then as I got 300 tops for the ones I sold and those were the S9J's

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