Topic: Create and earn (Read 308 times)

Generally speaking, thread starters earn a lot of merits. In many cases, they will be rewarded more than those who reply in their threads. But that's not always the case. The thread needs to be of a good quality. It can be interesting, unique, tackle a problem in a different way, solve a certain issue, etc.

However, if the OP contains wrong information, lies, incomplete data, plagiarism, is badly written with wrong grammar, and is just ugly-looking, those who find mistakes, make corrections, and suggest ways to make it better are the members who will get the majority of the merits. Not everyone knows or wants to create interesting threads. But they can still provide good feedback and they know how to get their message across.

Many members in this forum receive high amount of merits for things that doesn't require a perfect understanding of Bitcoin. Scam busting and reporting for example. Or those who search and find plagiarism or create stats, reviews, etc.

You need to stick to your strengths, and do the best you can. If the community notices that you made an effort in whatever you wrote or created, you will be awarded with merits.   

Do not feel bad about sharing your thought. There is nothing wrong in posting a different opinion from the crowd. To some extent I agree with you. Apart from that EZOO10 post that has gotten alot of merits and that is because of what happened and how he returned bitcoin that was wrongly transferred to him, most posts receiving lots of merits are those starting threads. I can say it is because posts starting threads are very easy to see than regular reply comments

But keep in mind that being helpful while you are still here should be more important than plotting of ranking up.

Getting merits and ranking up should be a something that happens because of your activity on the forum, in whatever shape or form. So I wouldn't stress about how to go about it, just be an active member and things will come.

Who really are you passing out this message to, I think you are getting it all wrong first you can rank up without creating unnecessary post like you just did, some people rank of even down to services they render or even a charitable donations, if you haven't ranked up, then your observations are obviously failing you then why are you still advicing other on it, I suggest respectfully you take you time to try out new things like reading hard before you post.

You did not get it wrong;
For the fact that another person is right does not make you wrong.
Quality topic creators gain more merits especially for lower-ranked members.
For you to gather merits from replies you have to;
1. To be timely, atleast be the first 3 people to reply.
2. To be knowledgeable such that your replies are always correct
3. You have to be readily available in the forum in order to follow up threads.
When I was a newbie I created many topics and most if not all of them got merited.

Generally, apart from creating topics, you can grow faster as a lower-ranked member if you do any of the below;
1. Burst scam always
2. Report or detect plagiarism
3. Find and report ban evaders
In a nutshell, for you to experience a rapid growth in the forum, you must find a way of giving to the forum.

Focus more on learning. Creating posts isn't a guarantee to ranking up. If you must be considering ranking up faster you should focus on solving problems and giving solutions to critical threads. Many users stay long enough on the forum without ranking up not because the don't create new topics but most times those topics aren't meritable

It is about passing valuable messages. You will get merits if you write something that helps others. It doesn't matter if you start a new topic or reply to an existing one. It is more important that you are constructive in your contributions.

Totally wrong. If you are here in this forum to learn about bitcoin and other cryptocurenncy, you are supposed to create a thread every time you are in need of a helping hand and that's how a forum works. Rank us is a benefit offered by the forum, nothing else. satoshi is supposed to be a Sr member only but no one remembers him for the rank but for his works.
Use the forum to learn, you will achieve the rank easily.

I thought this is about creating something and earning too, that is somehow like a clickbait. That's technically true what you have said. Isn't enough to comment or reply on someone post and you rank up easily that's true for people who needed extra effort but for some very analytical and critical thinker, they could set off high received merits by their cooperation and contributions regardless whether they are a a threaf starter or not.

The things you said is what will slow the process of ranking up your account. This forum is not a place/community/group where you are competing against other people to rank up first and earn. Joining bounties could also affect the quality of your post since you are reaching the required quota needed for every week or depends on the bounty you joined. As far as i'm concern, this forum is created for sharing knowledge, help someone fix their problem/issue like wallet, wallet security and more.

This made me recall back when I was still starting up in this forum and I was like wanting to create a thread about the "Dark Web and Bitcoin". It just turned out that I can't really keep up that much with the discussion, so I just call it quits on the thread since I do not have the all day to reply to each interesting replies (well some do have interesting).

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Just took a little peak on that thread I made and good thing it didn't turned out to be a megathread, lol.

Hi I took the liberty to check your profile and post history. I discovered you're Nigerian. Join our Nigeria local thread we don't have a local board yet but the thread is active enough for you to interact with other members and get the assistance you need.

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On the topic I suggest you improve your post quality. When you get that part right the merits will come whether you are looking for them or not. OP I also made an observation, I don't think  bounties are not bad but I think they sometimes reduce the quality of posters because of the pressure to complete weekly post quota.

Well what I noticed in the forum concerning merits is that you need to keep contributing to the forum through posts whether threads or comments it counts until a member that circulates merits gets to your profile that day at least 10 of your posts will be rewarded with merits and you will find yourself at the top. Just get involved in any topic that interests you ask questions and provide answers to people that request for it. Don't just relax and think that they are just only one way of getting ranked which providing a long written thread.

If your mindset is just to rank up and earn merits, you are in the wrong place. For me, ranking up and merits are just bonuses for the contributions that I have in this forum. I had a mindset where I can just simply contribute something valuable without expecting anything in return like ranking up and earning merits. These ones are just unexpected blessings to me, and it’s the best feeling ever.

I understand that a lot of newbies and beginners are here just to earn merits and rank up in order to join a signature campaign or something like that. You gotta earn it by becoming a respectable member and contributor of this forum.

You don’t need to construct long sentences and paragraphs in hopes that you will be earning merits. That mindset is very wrong. There are even just one phrase or sentence that earned merits on a certain topic, reply or so. Just be helpful without expecting anything in return, and you’ll be getting unexpected blessings later on.

The main aim should be sharing knowledge and learning from others and it could be in any manner like giving out replies to someone other's post or creating your own topic as you are not restricted to post any board.There are lot of topics created and replies made on daily basis and don't know what you might have come across this period on forum.

That's correct and think it in a manner like you have across a discussion forum looking for some answers to your doubt so what will you expect from the members? That they give correct and detailed information about what you have asked and gain knowledge about all other aspects also.So you just take bitcointalk as same platform where your post needs to be educative and helpful to readers.

This is not right ideology as you can rank up easily not only by constructing topics only as your replies could generate enough merits to you if they have the deserving quality information in them.Here is an perfect example of this :

n0nce is member who have registered on the forum before four months only and have managed to gain 663 merits in this short span which is great achievement and only lacks the activity to hero rank as 500 merits has been achieved but now he is full member and you can checkout his post history and will found out how many he has gained on replies and his own thread.

It could be fast or slow but if you have that knowledge and ability to learn or say you are dedicated to rank up then things will go better with time and you will notice more merits incoming and your knowledge enhancement as well.

The ranking does not only depend on merits, we old members know that it also depends on activity, ie the time that someone is willing to invest in the forum. If every 2 weeks you can get a max 14 activity points, and for Senior rank you need 240 AP and 250 merits, you need about 8 months for activity and if you earn 25-30 merits every month then you will become Senior member in 8 months - for Legendary rank you will need at least 3 times more time when it comes to activity. If you don't already know, you can see all the information here -> Merit & new rank requirements

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Quite right, and anyone wondering why his post didn’t get merit on page 13 of megathread has a problem. Of course, there are always exceptions that attract quality discussion even in megathreads, but in most cases, it would be advisable to avoid such threads - and any good campaign manager should not pay for posts in such threads. It is also known that the least visibility can be expected in Altcoins and Gambling boards, which automatically means less chance of someone rewarding a good post.

Your observation is correct, and the creation of new topics for any reason has become the favorite pastime of beginners. We all see and understand this very well. But you wrote that you were observant. Then you probably noticed that the new topic must be unique. Otherwise, all the answers in the topic turn into ordinary nit-picking for the one who created an empty topic, accusing him only of fishing for merits.
If you have interesting ideas, create new topics, just take responsibility after opening a topic, regularly support your topic, and close it on time so as not to turn the topic into a mega-thread. But you also need to understand that a huge number of topics from one author is counterproductive and raises a lot of unnecessary questions.

Don't be too faster. It is not about ranking,  if you make ranking your priority you may eventually hit your leg on the stone, let your focus on knowledge. Knowledge which you can distribute to the forum and knowledge which you will get from the forum. When you seek for knowledge ranking follows.

I looked into the idea of thread openers being more merited than subsequent posts, back when my account was but a few months old, and analysed 46K merited posts at the time (which is only 12,6% of the currently over 363K merited posts). Section 4 within my thread ("Post Number" chart) did clearly suggest that OPs tended to be more favoured over other posts within the thread, and that there was a decreasing curve from there on (without going into details now). The analysis is logically simply based on post position, not post content, which should play an important role.

The above is an underrepresentation of today’s picture, so it cannot be taken as more than an indication. Nevertheless, my perception is that the same pattern roughly applies. Despite this, and although in my opinion position tends to count in general terms, even if it is just because higher-up posts are more visible, there are relevant content factors that weigh-in. For example OPs may be more prone to thinking through what to post about, and therefore strike an attractive topic. This is certainly not always true, and there are evident cases of people opening topics for the sake of it, without anything to say further than some generic stuff that has no real substance. The first answers probably tend to be more useful than those further down, which might just reiterate or add little more the further down the thread we go (to the point of sheer redundancy or being oblivious to the content above other than the OP’s).

You’ll find examples and counter-examples of all sorts, but the general idea is that if there is nothing relevant to post, then don’t, and even less open a thread for the sake of trying to rank-up (which may result in being counterproductive). Eventually, you may get a few stray merits, but it’s the general character that you build through your posts that is likely more helpful in the long run.

If I consider your idea objectively, I will say you are right to an extent. The main objective of being on this forum is to contribute effectively, through replies, threads, reporting, meriting worthy comments etc, that is established. But, beyond threads and replies, most other contributions are not publicly visible and when you compare the two, threads have a higher visibility than replies within threads.

Majority of people would read the OP in a thread, a couple would go through the replies in the first page, even fewer would go through the second and third page, except it is a running discussion. From the third page, the thread is likely to have become a spam fest and chances of users with smerits to give stumbling on your post there drastically reduces.

Visibility is very important as merits are not automated depending on quality, but users have to read your posts and find them quality to merit them.
Here is a look at top merited topics and top merited replies of all time, you will notice that the merits awarded on the topics are significantly higher. However, do not take this data as a representation of the entire forum as it only considers the cream of the top, you can reach your own conclusion.

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Disclaimer; Creating topics cause you believe it is more likely to give you merits is a sure way to not get merits. It should come naturally, make topics and replies as appropriate, and simply read when there is nothing to add.

Do not be ashamed of your opinion or idea. Simply keep an open mind to learn through discussions.

I disagree. Creating a new topic with the singular aim to gain merits will only lead to more shit posting and spams, repetition of already discussed issues. This mindset has led newbies to plagiarise contents and present as their own because they want to sound intelligent and create long educative topics.
Engaging meaningfully in the discussion will get you merits. There are proofs of members earning 4 or more merits on replies to a post where the original poster had zero merits. An example of such case is this topic you created.

That is true if your topics are educative and convince people to merit your topics. But not absolutely true because also your other posts (replies under topics) can also be merited if constructively written and helpful.

Newbies usually have this mentality all because they are not that use to the forum, but with time, they know more about this forum and make more helpful and useful replies that will convince other members to merit their posts (not only topics).

To some extent, ranking up will serve as your license to get a spot on a signature campaign and earn money through posting. Forcing yourself to make a quality post even if you don't understand what you're trying to say won't help you in the long run; instead, it will stress you out, tire you out, and possibly spread false information to newbies. Isn't it not sustainable?

If I were you, I'd focus on learning slowly, asking genuine questions when necessary, and becoming a natural internet forum junkie. When you learn something useful, use the concept of merit as a bonus reward.

Goodluck!

I got it all wrong. I just feel like deleting the post. Now, I understand it is about passing the written message or information to what others will take note of

Do you mean you're creating this topic supposed to get merit? Nah it doesn't work like that, spam topic wouldn't earn any merit.

Creating post is same like you creating topic, it's judges by the quality not the thread or post. If you said creating post can't rank up easily you're wrong, look this one [1] Also you don't have to commenting good if you disagree with other user opinion, just post with your thought.

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[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58801111

Ranking up is not my main motive though. This is what I observe. People that post earn more merits than people that comment. Without a doubt, am acquainted with the knowledge I have gotten here. That's enough for me.
This post of mine is only an observation, nothing much.

I don't think your purpose in the forum is just to rank up, the forum is a place where you can learn and you can also share your own knowledge. If you are just after rank you you might endup going against some forum rules. If you are joining the forum I believe you should have it in your mind that you want to learn and you also want to share your knowledge and gradually you are going to rank up.

For the past few months in this forum, I have got to realize that if you are to be able to rank up easily in this forum, you are supposed to be creating a new topic on btt boards (depending on your post). Your post is supposed to be well educative, knowledgeable and interactive to all. Commenting good to other people posts is not enough to get you ranked up easily.
These are what I recently observed
Each of every one of us wants to rank up someday but don't know how long it will take or go about it