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Quote from: Richbased on January 06, 2024, 09:00:27 PM

OP you see even though crime cannot really be eradicated totally from the society, crime shouldn't be considered in any form at all because if you know the consequences with which crimes pose to it's victims, then you will certainly understand with me that crime shouldn't be welcomed in any form and whoever involves their selves in crimes in other to cause panic and uneasy to the society deserves some high level of punishment.

Yahoo boys are one of the biggest problems in this country; They're ruining lives across the globe & bringing a bad publicity to Nigeria, but the EFCC is reportedly planning to rehabilitate convicted yahoo boys? Absolutely not. Anyone found guilty should be in prison. The fight against cybercrime should be taken seriously Corrupt Politicians bring more bad publicity in globe but since we’re good in misplace priorities let’s keep chasing shadows.

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Quote from: Richbased on January 06, 2024, 09:00:27 PM

OP you see even though crime cannot really be eradicated totally from the society, crime shouldn't be considered in any form at all because if you know the consequences with which crimes pose to it's victims, then you will certainly understand with me that crime shouldn't be welcomed in any form and whoever involves their selves in crimes in other to cause panic and uneasy to the society deserves some high level of punishment.

When are talk of crime particularly the crime by our young youth's we could see that some crimes are hilarious ranging from child trafficking,rapes hooliganism and juvenile delinquency all this act is a traits against humanity society.reason for all this crime varies from the roots of poverty hard economic we are into in the country,moral upbringing some people aren't born with silver spoon and have no parental Care and such they are influence by society brutality they felt neglected and to deal with society we be a good revenge because society neglected them at first place.

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Quote from: Neobanks on January 06, 2024, 08:21:09 PM

Irrespective of the negative impact of crime to the society I still believe that the society can also be impacted positively by crime and disorderliness because it is essential anchor point for social changes. Another important function of crime is in the fact that it can bring about understanding of some deviant behaviour which may causes people to reflect on what is or isn't allowed within a particular society, allowing them to discover when the law doesn't line up with the collective sentiments of the majority.

OP, I don't see any useful impact of crime to the society, crime, social vices are the major problem of the society, the chaotic nature of crime in the society can lead some people to early grave, some people has never recover from the shock they got from crime till this moment, I have done many research about crime I don't see any advantage of crime to the society, do you you know that in most under developed world, there citizen has suffered so much because of crime.

Such mindset should be delisted by you, it is not applicable anywhere, the negative impact of crime to the society is so enormous to the extent that the affected place will start initiating what we call community police that will he in tackling it to an extent.

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Quote from: Neobanks on January 06, 2024, 08:21:09 PM

Irrespective of the negative impact of crime to the society I still believe that the society can also be impacted positively by crime and disorderliness because it is essential anchor point for social changes. Another important function of crime is in the fact that it can bring about understanding of some deviant behaviour which may causes people to reflect on what is or isn't allowed within a particular society, allowing them to discover when the law doesn't line up with the collective sentiments of the majority.

I am surprised by your explanation of crime being helpful to society. Crime is anything against the rules and norms of the society.
For a social change, the thinking processes and perspective of the society should be changed, crime will negatively impact the society. As far as the testing of society's tolerance is concerned, it will be tested and reflected by the laws they have and the rule of law.

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There’s no advantage or positive impact of crime. If there is no crime, there wouldn’t even be need for the social change for crime. I understand what you mean sounds like there won’t be any superhero without a villain, but let me tell you that if no one did any evil, it would have been all peaceful and no one would need people to stand up for them. Crime is evil and every country is fighting as much as possible to reduce it (because it isn’t possible to entirely eliminate it). Btw, your poll seems confusing to read.

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Quote from: Neobanks on January 06, 2024, 08:21:09 PM

Irrespective of the negative impact of crime to the society I still believe that the society can also be impacted positively by crime and disorderliness because it is essential anchor point for social changes. Another important function of crime is in the fact that it can bring about understanding of some deviant behaviour which may causes people to reflect on what is or isn't allowed within a particular society, allowing them to discover when the law doesn't line up with the collective sentiments of the majority.

I understand your point OP and what you’re actually getting at, but don’t you think if that is allowed without a strict penalty publicly issued for criminals, people will use it as a gateway to commit more crimes? Crime should remain unjustifiable no matter what. Crime is bad and very dangerous to the society and if in anyway the law wants to acknowledge crime is some way because of the positive social change it can bring to the society, it will escalate one day and cause more problems in the society. For those that have found a changed them through the crime they’ve committed, it is good for them and for those that won’t change despite how many crimes they commit, they should be penalised continuously for it and serve as remembrance to those wanting to engage in such acts.

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Crime can never have any good effect. Crime cannot have any positive effect on the society. It is completely wrong idea. Crime always brings something bad. It has a bad effect on everyone. Various crimes are destroying our youth society. Society should be kept away from crime. Society will be less affected by it. One crime gives birth to a thousand crimes. Now whose youth society is more interested in accepting bad things than good.

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Imagine a world without crime. A world where nobody is punishable because of any offense, because there are no laws either. A world where all the Citizens are well behaved. No fighting, no stealing, no rape and no embezzlement. Such a world would obviously be a perfect world. But since this kind of world does not exist, there's always a room for crime. But then I cannot clearly state the positive impact of crime in the society. If a country wants to test her arm department, maybe they send them to a war and not to promote crime because it has no positive impact in the society. I was waiting to know from Op, the positive impact of crime in the society and he failed to establish his facts.

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What would have been good as in a society and the people are living together without the fear of being panic for crime, this reminds me of the olden days when our parents will have to display their market items harvested from farm on the road, market or e even in the house without being there while they are attending to other things, but they will arrange stones to signify the price for each items and when the customers arrived, they recognized what each stones signifies and pay money there placing the stones on it, all because there's no crime and people trust themselves and live in peace together in the society.

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Quote from: cryptoWODL on January 10, 2024, 10:27:14 AM

The crime trend is increasing day by day all over the world, maybe this crime trend will never be removed from the world. As long as people live on earth, this crime will exist among people. There are various types of criminal tendencies among people, one of the crimes in our society is juvenile crime. In society, depression, lawlessness and poverty are the main causes of juvenile delinquency. If these uneducated children are given the opportunity to be educated and fed, then maybe the juvenile delinquency will be reduced to some extent

So far as their is greed that exist in the life of human crime will always exist, so far as human have the ability to covet crime will exist. Anger, greed, unforgiveness, and so many more exist crime will exist in the world . Some people commit crime just because of anger, so I think crime is something that can be eliminated from the world. Sometimes people even commits crime just because of wrong mentality, poor background. It is only with law we can use to reduce the rate of criminal activity in the society.

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Quote from: Richbased on January 06, 2024, 09:00:27 PM

OP you see even though crime cannot really be eradicated totally from the society, crime shouldn't be considered in any form at all because if you know the consequences with which crimes pose to it's victims, then you will certainly understand with me that crime shouldn't be welcomed in any form and whoever involves their selves in crimes in other to cause panic and uneasy to the society deserves some high level of punishment.

According to richbased op you really need dig deep about crime and it's effects on the society because consequences of allowing a drop of it not fighting it in all aspects is very dangerous. In as much is called crime one don't need to create any favourable room for it because it can strive beyond expectations, many of today crime that seem not able to eradicate is negligent and it now become Norm in the society, crime is crime I don't want to differentiate if any one is big or small because that crime that seem small today can generate greater things that society can't handle in future.

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There is no justification for crime in any society except in the case of mental instability . The state created the instruments of the state for correction , the social system or the state system is organized in a way that, without been told , individuals become aware of principles of social conduct.

The family and school teaches these social conducts and the instruments of the state for correction and sanction. Therefore, individuals do not need to commit crime to notice or discover that certain crimes are actually crimes or that bad things done to others are actually crimes.

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I think society and crime are so intertwined.As long as there are people there will be society and as long as there is society there will be crime. Every society has criminal tendency but this criminal tendency has a negative effect on the people living in the society.

Criminal tendency may never be eradicated from the society but it can be curbed and even reduced. If we didn't have crime trend in every country in this world then people of every country could live very peacefully. In the society, people commit various types of crimes like theft, robbery, terrorism and fraud.

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Quote from: Neobanks on January 06, 2024, 08:21:09 PM

Irrespective of the negative impact of crime to the society I still believe that the society can also be impacted positively by crime and disorderliness because it is essential anchor point for social changes. Another important function of crime is in the fact that it can bring about understanding of some deviant behaviour which may causes people to reflect on what is or isn't allowed within a particular society, allowing them to discover when the law doesn't line up with the collective sentiments of the majority.

There is No way, crime can have positive impact in any society rather it will diminish,impact negatively, cause dangerous effects and will take away peacefully coexistence in society . Examples of crime e.g Terrorism,cyber crime, Armed robbery, Human trafficking, kidnapping, Rapping, and corruption etc, how can these negative create any balance in any society. This acts can happen easily but very difficult to to eradicate.

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Quote from: Neobanks on January 06, 2024, 08:21:09 PM

Irrespective of the negative impact of crime to the society I still believe that the society can also be impacted positively by crime and disorderliness because it is essential anchor point for social changes. Another important function of crime is in the fact that it can bring about understanding of some deviant behaviour which may causes people to reflect on what is or isn't allowed within a particular society, allowing them to discover when the law doesn't line up with the collective sentiments of the majority.

The reason crime is so readily available in these kinds of settings is that when society attempts to rebel against one another, individual members will split off and form a new society made up of criminals, unaware that this new society is comprised of criminals, people will continue to believe that they live in a good society.

Because it is not a good idea to expel someone who has been a member of society for a long time, even if their remarks are offensive. Instead, they should get punishment so that they can make amends the following day. Crime is a really bad habit, how never pray that even my adversaries would succumb to it because the majority of people who commit crimes end up dead.

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Quote from: Y3shot on January 09, 2024, 01:07:34 PM

People who go into crime just to gain what they want are just greedy and lazy because they feel it is too hard to gain what they want in a legal way. Crime can't be justified and to give reasons why people commit it. Crime is a disaster that is not suppose to exist in the society and people who commit crime are enemy of the society which the society is not suppose to be fair with them unless they change for bad to good. Crime will always remain evil which is very toxic to human.

What about people who commit crime because they want to keep what they already have? A good example here is a man whose house can be taken away by the city and, seeing no other way, he commits a crime on a city employee who wants to enforce that order. By law it's a crime, but ethically the man is protecting his home and his family.

Crime is not always good or bad. In fact it rarely happens that someone is deprived to the core and attacks another person because he feels like it, wants to calm his rage down, or is interested in financial gain.
Often it's someone who sees no other way out, someone neglected for years by family and the system he's forced to live in.

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Quote from: Frankolala on January 08, 2024, 09:14:36 AM

Crime shouldn't be seen as something good, and I don't think that there is any benefit in crime, and this was why the law was made because crime has been a disadvantage to the society and threat to human lives. A society without crime will be said to be a peaceful one, and that is why you see that there are wars everywhere and all sort of evil deeds.

OP, can you tell me where Arm robbing, kidnapping, killing and raping has a positive effect on the society. Anything crime is evil, and it is not of God but of the Devil, because the bible let us to know that the devil came to steal, kill and destroy.

It's very hard to see any thing good coming out from crime. In fact, even if there's positive impact of it in our society, it doesn't worth discussing considering the damages it could caused. I understand the Op point because I remember reading somewhere that the presence of crime help to improve the security measures in our society but I don't see that as a valid reason or as a positive impact based on what it takes to intensify the security system and what it'll cost the society.

We can not refute the fact that after crime security measures are being intensify but that alone is a negative impact on its own because it will cost the victims emotions and finance to improve the security. Fear will be created in the society and people would feel unsafe in their own society thereby affecting the living standards. Whatever angle one is talking from, crime should not seen as something that can impact our society positively.

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Crime has direct consequences on individuals, causing physical and emotional harm, loss of property, and sometimes loss of life. Additionally, the fear of crime can alter daily behaviors and limit the freedom of individuals within a community. Moreover, crime has economic repercussions, impacting productivity, property values, and the allocation of resources towards law enforcement and judicial systems.

Socially, crime can contribute to the perpetuation of stereotypes, stigmatization of certain communities, and a breakdown of trust within society. It can also exacerbate existing social inequalities, as marginalized groups often bear a disproportionate burden of criminal activities.

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Never seen such topic which says crime is positive ? I mean how can someone say crime is necessary to bring in social change ? It's a common sense that it's either greedy or circumstances which forces people into committing crime regardless of circumstances crime cannot be justified and rather we should focus on controlling the crime and eradicating it by figuring out the root cause. Some study should be conducted to know what is pushing them to commit crime and then hold the relevant department responsible and work around to fix it. Crime is never good it's evil.

People who go into crime just to gain what they want are just greedy and lazy because they feel it is too hard to gain what they want in a legal way. Crime can't be justified and to give reasons why people commit it. Crime is a disaster that is not suppose to exist in the society and people who commit crime are enemy of the society which the society is not suppose to be fair with them unless they change for bad to good. Crime will always remain evil which is very toxic to human.

Crime has never helped anyone. It is only greed and laziness that will make a person or group of people wish to get what they want the easy way and faster too, hence they resolve to crime to achieve their aim forcefully. Saying crime is somehow a positive thing is just like promoting ills in our society. No crime whether big or small should be tolerated. If we continue to believe that crime has some positive impacts on the society, societal ills will increase and things will really go out of hand. Crime is evil and it should be seen that way so the people will be conscious enough to fight it till it reduces to the barest minimum. Say no to Crime!

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How I wish there's zero tolerance on crime rate everywhere in the societies, people will have to engage on their daily businesses without the fear of what danger may befall them through the societal influence, also, many financial and economy activities of the people would have been controlled and well coordinated, there will be less security threat or challenges, and the rate on loss of lives and properties would have also been dealt with if the people are determined to living a free life without crime.

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The crime trend is increasing day by day all over the world, maybe this crime trend will never be removed from the world. As long as people live on earth, this crime will exist among people. There are various types of criminal tendencies among people, one of the crimes in our society is juvenile crime. In society, depression, lawlessness and poverty are the main causes of juvenile delinquency. If these uneducated children are given the opportunity to be educated and fed, then maybe the juvenile delinquency will be reduced to some extent

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Crime harms individuals, families and communities. It causes loss of life, physical and mental injuries, property damage and financial hardship. Crime can destroy trust in society, creating fear and insecurity. In fact crime has been a part of human society for as long as humans have existed on earth. As long as there are individuals with different interests, there will be conflicts and transgressions. Although we can work to prevent and reduce crime, it will likely continue to be a part of human existence in the future. Our focus should be on tackling the root causes of crime and creating a fair and just society for all.

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Quote from: kentrolla on January 08, 2024, 02:17:34 PM

Never seen such topic which says crime is positive ? I mean how can someone say crime is necessary to bring in social change ? It's a common sense that it's either greedy or circumstances which forces people into committing crime regardless of circumstances crime cannot be justified and rather we should focus on controlling the crime and eradicating it by figuring out the root cause. Some study should be conducted to know what is pushing them to commit crime and then hold the relevant department responsible and work around to fix it. Crime is never good it's evil.

People who go into crime just to gain what they want are just greedy and lazy because they feel it is too hard to gain what they want in a legal way. Crime can't be justified and to give reasons why people commit it. Crime is a disaster that is not suppose to exist in the society and people who commit crime are enemy of the society which the society is not suppose to be fair with them unless they change for bad to good. Crime will always remain evil which is very toxic to human.

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It is okay for people to disagree among themselve, with all these disagreements, they might reach a conclusion and understand how to tolerate each other. It is best if all these disagreements and misunderstandings are settled amicably and not resolving to crime to reach an understanding because crime will always have negative impacts. When crime happens, lives and properties are lost, people begin to live in fear and in most cases, businesses become affected. This is why we have laws to make sure there is peace and order in our society.

What a topic! What about the outburst of crimes which come out of greed and selfish reasons? Where people just want to destroy other people just to get what they have, inflicting pains on innocent people for no valid reason? No matter the form it comes with, crime is destructive, it is bad and the law enforcement agencies will do anything to reduce or eradicate it totally .

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Never seen such topic which says crime is positive ? I mean how can someone say crime is necessary to bring in social change ? It's a common sense that it's either greedy or circumstances which forces people into committing crime regardless of circumstances crime cannot be justified and rather we should focus on controlling the crime and eradicating it by figuring out the root cause. Some study should be conducted to know what is pushing them to commit crime and then hold the relevant department responsible and work around to fix it. Crime is never good it's evil.

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Quote from: Neobanks on January 06, 2024, 08:21:09 PM

Irrespective of the negative impact of crime to the society I still believe that the society can also be impacted positively by crime and disorderliness because it is essential anchor point for social changes. Another important function of crime is in the fact that it can bring about understanding of some deviant behaviour which may causes people to reflect on what is or isn't allowed within a particular society, allowing them to discover when the law doesn't line up with the collective sentiments of the majority.

You're saying that crime has an important way of solving social changes, maybe you can wait until then when you first happened to be a victim of any crime activities before making our approving this post you made that talks about crimes, there's no way you can join in the acceptance of what is against human rights, life and say it contributes to the social changes needed, must people die before things get alright, must people steal before they get rich, any bad mannered activities should not be allowed or condole for any reason because they are cheat on human lives.

It is something I have noticed it happens quite often with people who are alledgely in favor of the rights of those who are imprisoned for commiting crimes or those who seek to overturn death sentences against people who committed crimes against others.
It is very easy to say all people is supposed to be given a second chance to be part of society or not to be executed by the state, but those people who show such empathy need to put themelsves in the shoes of the victims of the crimes which the inmate committed, otherwise their opinion won't be taken seriously and they will be only despised by anyone who had indeed been the victim of a crime.

Let us take El Salvador as an example. Bukkele started a campaign to detain and imprison all the gang members of the country and there were people who started to call for the gang members' rights to be respected, since many of them are imprisoned without a proper judgement yet. In response, he said that any first world country who is indeed concerned about those alledged criminals is welcome to step forward and take them to their country. Meanwhile, it seems people from El Salvador has welcomed the measures to improve the safety of the common people living there.

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Quote from: Neobanks on January 06, 2024, 08:21:09 PM

Irrespective of the negative impact of crime to the society I still believe that the society can also be impacted positively by crime and disorderliness because it is essential anchor point for social changes. Another important function of crime is in the fact that it can bring about understanding of some deviant behaviour which may causes people to reflect on what is or isn't allowed within a particular society, allowing them to discover when the law doesn't line up with the collective sentiments of the majority.

Did you come up with this question after watching any gangster movies? Probably John Wick. Tongue

Crime is a crime and it doesn't do anything good for society unless we are talking about an individual who hunts down robbers, killers, drug sellers and whoever comes under the tag criminal using the loopholes in the laws or getting away by paying the one who should be taking care of them.

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Quote from: Neobanks on January 06, 2024, 08:21:09 PM

Irrespective of the negative impact of crime to the society I still believe that the society can also be impacted positively by crime and disorderliness because it is essential anchor point for social changes. Another important function of crime is in the fact that it can bring about understanding of some deviant behaviour which may causes people to reflect on what is or isn't allowed within a particular society, allowing them to discover when the law doesn't line up with the collective sentiments of the majority.

You're saying that crime has an important way of solving social changes, maybe you can wait until then when you first happened to be a victim of any crime activities before making our approving this post you made that talks about crimes, there's no way you can join in the acceptance of what is against human rights, life and say it contributes to the social changes needed, must people die before things get alright, must people steal before they get rich, any bad mannered activities should not be allowed or condole for any reason because they are cheat on human lives.

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It is called crime for a reason. Crime's called crime because it involves breaking rules or messing with how things should be. It's usually tied to negative stuff that's not good for people or the community.

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Crime shouldn't be seen as something good, and I don't think that there is any benefit in crime, and this was why the law was made because crime has been a disadvantage to the society and threat to human lives. A society without crime will be said to be a peaceful one, and that is why you see that there are wars everywhere and all sort of evil deeds.

OP, can you tell me where Arm robbing, kidnapping, killing and raping has a positive effect on the society. Anything crime is evil, and it is not of God but of the Devil, because the bible let us to know that the devil came to steal, kill and destroy.

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Quote from: Neobanks on January 06, 2024, 08:21:09 PM

Irrespective of the negative impact of crime to the society I still believe that the society can also be impacted positively by crime and disorderliness because it is essential anchor point for social changes.

If there's an impact to think of with these crimes, I don't want to think of positive as this but this is the reality that the authorities will have to act on it to avoid future happenings of the same crime or any other crime and they'll have to change for the better and for the well being of their citizens.

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Another important function of crime is in the fact that it can bring about understanding of some deviant behaviour which may causes people to reflect on what is or isn't allowed within a particular society, allowing them to discover when the law doesn't line up with the collective sentiments of the majority.

I wouldn't say that as an important function. There have been thousands to millions of crimes that have happened already, these authorities can actually learn from them already and not to wait for another crime to get started just for them to do the necessary changes in our society. It's not only the authorities that are involved here but also us, normal citizens. There's no need to eye witness another crime and justify it that there goes the important function and benefits that we will get just to see some major changes in our society.

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Industrialization urbanization and mechanized city life have given rise to individualism in us. We are so busy with ourselves that we have almost lost the human qualities of being with others in society in happiness and sorrow. When this kind of mentality becomes evident in a society then the lack of moral values in that society increases racial crimes etc. If these activities are not removed it is not possible to cure crime from the society.

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Quote from: Neobanks on January 06, 2024, 08:21:09 PM

Irrespective of the negative impact of crime to the society I still believe that the society can also be impacted positively by crime and disorderliness because it is essential anchor point for social changes. Another important function of crime is in the fact that it can bring about understanding of some deviant behaviour which may causes people to reflect on what is or isn't allowed within a particular society, allowing them to discover when the law doesn't line up with the collective sentiments of the majority.

Crime is bad to the society and I don’t think a society should be lenient to the punishment of crimes in the society, if not many people will want to find a means through their which will become a burden and trouble to the majority that are not involved in such acts. There is nothing to prove that crime is good to some extent or help in making anything in the society better. If crimes are began to be viewed in that aspect, it will become very dangerous to the society and the after effect will not be tolerable when it gets out of hand. What is bad is bad and what is good is good. Let’s not try to justify criminal activity.

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Quote from: Richbased on January 06, 2024, 09:00:27 PM

OP you see even though crime cannot really be eradicated totally from the society, crime shouldn't be considered in any form at all because if you know the consequences with which crimes pose to it's victims, then you will certainly understand with me that crime shouldn't be welcomed in any form and whoever involves their selves in crimes in other to cause panic and uneasy to the society deserves some high level of punishment.

The society knows the result of crimes that is why their are laws for every crime commited. If crime should be without any punishment the society will be a terrible place for human. Even with all the laws people face when they commit crime yet crime is still taking place, people don't even care about the consequences. The society should not tolerate or compromise criminal activities, crime is a disaster that if the society don't control it will be something terrible because crime give birth to more crimes.

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In my own understanding, I think op is making the post in the contrary that with crime there will be improvement and strengthening of the laws guiding the land because one crime gives room for creating of another law that will apart from finding room for punishment, it will further guide against disobedience and the fear of such penalty will scare prospective offenders away from it. Well that is understandable because there is no society with no crime and laws keep getting fortified to move the land forward.

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I do not think it is necessary for someone else to do a crime just so the rest of us get to understand that that was in fact illegal and should not be done by anyone else of course there are lots of different kinds of crimes the word crimes encompasses very broad categories but usually crimes when done results in some kind of harm or damage to anyone so i am confused how does it drive the society forward if there are people involved in the said crime? Are they like sacrifices?

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Quote from: Churchillvv on January 06, 2024, 09:51:07 PM

I wouldn't criticize your point because I'm a socialist student, I conceive your point empathetically. to be honest, we humans made up the word Crime it's basically deviant behaviors that has been set out by law or has attached some sanctions to it making it seems so strong whereas it could be a norm in so certain society (culture).

Like one of the social scientist Thomas hobbes said " In a society without law, life will be nasty, brutish and short. In as much as law is important crime too has its own value. I know that point will be criticize but that's the truth. without crime there will be no law, crime is as important as law in the society.

From my perspective crime has both negative and positive impact in the society, only few people understands this.

Being aware of what crime is and feeling empathy for other human beings is different though. What do you think came first within civilization: crime or law? To me, it is obvious that crime came first and because of the negative consequences which started to be too blatant in the earliest civilizations laws were born to discourage criminals to continue to attempt against the rights of their fellow citizens.
Crime does not have anything positive to offer to our societies, otherwise, law would not be so important and universal in any civilized country on this planet.

By the way, the fact you call yourself a "socialist student" only reinforces the talking points of the extreme right about people from the left to be more likely to release criminals to the streets after being locked up. Since, you believe there is something positive in crime I can only assume you have never been a direct victim of criminals. I wonder whether you would continue to think this way if you were. (Hopefully you won't ever be).

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I wouldn't criticize your point because I'm a socialist student, I conceive your point empathetically. to be honest, we humans made up the word Crime it's basically deviant behaviors that has been set out by law or has attached some sanctions to it making it seems so strong whereas it could be a norm in so certain society (culture).

Like one of the social scientist Thomas hobbes said " In a society without law, life will be nasty, brutish and short. In as much as law is important crime too has its own value. I know that point will be criticize but that's the truth. without crime there will be no law, crime is as important as law in the society.

From my perspective crime has both negative and positive impact in the society, only few people understands this.

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OP you see even though crime cannot really be eradicated totally from the society, crime shouldn't be considered in any form at all because if you know the consequences with which crimes pose to it's victims, then you will certainly understand with me that crime shouldn't be welcomed in any form and whoever involves their selves in crimes in other to cause panic and uneasy to the society deserves some high level of punishment.

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Eh, this is rather a weird way to see crime and its impact within society to be honest. You imply there could be a chance crime could be the kick starter to improve society by the study of why crime actually happens. But in reality, understanding why crime happens is not a warranty to stop new crimes from happening again.

For example, nowadays in the developed countries there is an entire branch of science dedicated to study and understand and analyze crimes and criminals, and yet, it does not matter how many criminal profiles we can get and motives to register, we will always get people to commit the same crimes and almost for the same reasons.

The use of science on Crime is more about seeking for criminals to get hold accountable rather than prevention.
In short, to me Crime is not a necessary evil, is an evil which ideally would be completely wiped off all societies possible, even in ancient times our ancestors understood so and enforced very severe punishments against thieves.

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I don't see in any way the society can be imported with crime. Crime is not an option and is nothing something that needed to be condole LD in the society which could lead to several detriments. Crime does not have any benefits in the society and all it does is to cause more severe consequences to the people and the new generation. Are you going to tell me that crime like kidnapping, frauds, homicide etc have bigger important functions in the society? What does the society benefit from all these crimes that could create unforseen problems with time.

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Irrespective of the negative impact of crime to the society I still believe that the society can also be impacted positively by crime and disorderliness because it is essential anchor point for social changes. Another important function of crime is in the fact that it can bring about understanding of some deviant behaviour which may causes people to reflect on what is or isn't allowed within a particular society, allowing them to discover when the law doesn't line up with the collective sentiments of the majority.

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