Topic: Criteria in making constructive post (Read 432 times)

Its nice to see that also look for a constructive post and I think its good to see that you also set your expectations for the quality post that you want!

Is too exaggerated? Well, my point here is that we can all set free of our own criteria in sending merit because definitely, some of the lower ranks like me are thinking what is a good quality needed in order to receive merits.
This is my opinion and I am just looking each of it criteria when I wanted to give merits. If I will send merits, I will look for a post that reach one or two of my criteria.

I believe in you bro! We have diversity of wants and opinions and we cannot blame others from what they want because we have our own taste.
I consider your criteria but I think we have a limited merits only and for sure, if that criteria you have set, many people should benefits from your merit because it seems like many user here have qualitative post and helpful for the community.

Well this was your opinion only, or maybe for you its a long explanation but for others understanding they are not you like man
So for me I think the one who made that topic was trying to give a hand to anyone here in the forum especially to those member here who cannot make a constructive or don't know how to find out how to do it at least through this perhaps it can give anyhow or a bit of knowledge about it. 

Different people can have different opinions regarding this. I will give importance to two points only. First is that the answer should be helpful. And second is how quick was the member to respond. If you are repeating the same thing for 10th time, it is waste of time for readers.

My criteria for constructive posts:
1. Unique (has not ever been mentioned somewhere in the forum or on the Internet. That means not copying & pasting or plagiarising)
2. Creative (describing new approach to solve issues)
3. Solving-problem (on-topic and can help others to solve their issues/ technical problems, etc)
4. Easy to understand (not wrote in broken English)
5. Open-minded (open for further discussions, interactions)
6. Informative (contains information that valuable, and links to information sources included)
Something more which I don't remember at the moment.

Criteriaa constructive post that has been described above, too exaggerated and too long explanation impressed reproduce kata.sebenarnya pos konstrustif in my opinion is a post that is in line with what was discussed earlier with good grammar even with a few characters

No. This has been answered here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-everything-you-need-to-know-about-forum-activity-account-ranks-and-merit-2766177

Though short posts are probably less likely to receive merit than longer ones which you now need to rank up. People just used to 'fluff' their posts and stretch them out because they thought two sentences magically makes their posts constructive and look like they put some effort in. It doesn't. The people who do these two liners are some of the worst posters here because they just ramble on adding needless words to something that could have been said in far less. Though, as LeGaulois said above, sometimes a response only requires a word but a constructive poster would have a varied post history ranging from one word posts to paragraphs and everything in between so don't just try make your posts hit some kind of character count just for the sake of it as it usually has the opposite effect.

Does the character count attribute to upgrading your status?

Thank you for putting your time here sir!
I thing that the topic I've started is different from Jet Cash sir. I've thinking it after Mr.Theymos give us the new system.
I made this thread because even I confused on how the merit sources and other legendaries look for a quality post. We need to know their criteria in order for us to become aware of what we will make.

...So he can add, a constructive post doesn't need to use CAPS, it's usually mean shouting, on the internet...

I just would like to say:
A constructive post can be just a sentence or few words. If you ask me "Is it Monday today?" I am not going to write a white paper to tell you yes...
And No, I disagree to say it is important that it is not just based on your opinion, you can make a 'constructive post" based only on your opinion. We're on a forum and interacting with a community and so communicate each other

One criteria I think is not typing all characters in bold which you do not seem to bother. "CRITERIA IN MAKING CONSTRUCTIVE POST" looks funny.

905 People post fluff? Have you been compiling a list of all the users posting what you've deemed as fluff and you're currently up to 905? In case my sarcasm is lost over the internet, I know you simply missed the Shift key and it is meant to be 90%, but it serves to refute your point; there are people posting 2-sentences (like yourself) that are not making sense, because you can't be bothered to even re-read your post to make sure it doesn't have any significantly detrimental typos that would change the entire meaning of what you're saying.

A lot of words is not a bad thing, if you have a lot to say and need to say it particularly. If you have a hard time following a long-post, and never believe them to make sense, then might I suggest it is your attention-span failing you and not the poster.

I think it's funny to criticize long posts that don't make sense, while posting a short post that struggles to make sense. The irony must be lost on you, but it isn't on anyone else.

A good post to you is :
"Posting on new topics and not answering questions with numerous relies until you have something new to add. " . I think I know what you're saying, but the sentence as it is written makes absolutely no sense.

Your sentence should be closer to "Refraining from posting until you have something unique, creative or helpful to add", even that though isn't telling you what a constructive/good post is, it mostly serves to tell you what it isn't.

I think constructive post wasn't hard but the problem is in grammatical errors that easily notice by the fair above rank.

Here is what I think is a constructive post:

1) To the point answering the query asked. Reality is 905 people here just post fluff (trying to add as many words as possible even if it makes no sense).

2) Posting on new topics and not answering questions with numerous relies until you have something new to add.

I've only visited this thread to comment that normally I wouldn't have opened it because of the title capitalisation. However, that fact meant that I haven't actually read any of the posts.

Capitalisation messes up the scanning of board indexes, and hopefully most thread starters will avoid it.

I'm not sure if you have already stumbled upon this thread or not, but we are currently having a very similar conversation here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-post-to-encourage-me-to-award-smerits-2890454 , if you are interested or would like to add your criteria to the thread then feel free to hop in. I believe it is probably better to all shift into one active thread, especially if they're discussing the same thing.

I've laid out my own criteria for making your posts more thoughtful. JetCash has done similar, another user named J-N even chipped in. The offer is there, we would love to discuss with you because your criteria are good, but could definitely be better. Little things, like beginning each and every one of your bullets with "a topic or a post ..." makes things a bit hard to read. I speak about the different levels of analysis, and you seem to be lacking in aesthetics. I would like to elaborate and clarify your criteria, to possibly make it a more universal criteria than everyone can understand and agree with.

One of the most controversial issues in this forum nowadays is all about the merit system. The new system created of our Administrator Theymos in order to improve postings of the members specially the newbies and also to filter the spammer from constructive users.
For us to have merit points we need to make a constructive post as what the thread "Merit and new rank requirements" posted. But how do we make such constructive posts?

Here are my criteria when I am looking in constructive post and topic:

1. A topic or post creator must be resourceful. The post must be updated or real happened in the past. The data that is used must be in different resources.
2. A topic or post must applied critical thinking. Even we talked about the past or in a currently issue, we must look for in depth meaning that will opens the curiosity of the readers.
3. A topic or post should be creative. Creativity attracts the reader. Using of figures of speech and idioms will make the post more interesting.
4. A topic or post direct to the point. A good discussant can be seen according to his explanation. If you want to convey, argue or give informations, make it more directed to your purpose/s.
5. A topic or post must be reliable. It is important that it is not just based on your opinion but somehow there is an evidence that it happens in real life.
6. A topic or post must be original and not copy pasted. It is a must to make original post because copy pasting of information may lead to plagiarism. Put references after the information you've got, author to be specified.
7. A topic or post must be grammatically correct. Some of our merit resources highly give merit for the topic that is well-constructive when it comes in grammar.
8. A topic or post must be a multi-cultural sensitive. Creator of the topic must respect multi-cultural diversity and also must be aware in posting cultural aspects. We should also not be a one-sided opinion.
9. A topic or post must be innovative. Creator should be able to come up with new things specially in making posts. Uniqueness of the content will catch the attention of the readers.
10. A topic or post must be useful for the people in the forum and in the community of crypto world.

I provided my criteria in sending merits and I request also other higher ranks/Merit Sources also to set their own expectations for us who needed merit to rank up shall know how we will become more constructive than what we really think of. I know that it is hard to have a constructive posts because even I having adjustments in new protocol. Surfing internet and reading books will help us to become more constructive. Just be patient till someone will recognize our effort. For sure if we recieve by other people who we did not know, our hardship and effort to search and make quality post will be paid off. Remember, we appreciate our success if is come from our hardships and difficulties. Do not make more complains, just do your best to cope up the new  system. After all, we are benefited by the newly system.