Topic: Cross-border money transfer || Buy-Sell crypto without KYC/AML (Read 1392 times)

Hi. I want to buy bitcoin with cash. Check your telegram, please.

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The security deposit will pick up a trusted courier. In almost every country there are couriers for these purposes.

But you are saying "your guys" will go to collect the deposit … well if no one shows up you have wasted costs just as if you were carrying out the actual transaction. So now you're sending "your guys" twice instead of just once …

We only work in Europe.

How about the KYC in U.S?

Because the minimum amount of the deal seems to suggest that we're not selling cakes. A security deposit is needed to cover the costs.

I'll describe the simplest situation for you to understand why you (the buyer) need a security deposit to work with us.
Let's say you want to buy BTC from us for a minimum amount of 20k EUR in Paris. In the chat we have discussed all the conditions, set the final date of the deal, the place of the deal and the time of the deal. In the day of the deal our guys came to the meeting place... But you, and your men didn't come for some reason.

We are not interested in the reason why the buyer didn't show up. This means by default that the deal is canceled, and without a security deposit our guys have losses that include money for the road, time (spent in vain) which could be spent with more benefit and go to the real deal, etc.

Also, there are a lot of stupid schoolchildren in the crypto-community, who often write to me, "I want to buy a BTC for 100k USD", - ok, we are always ready. But when it comes to the insurance deposit and discussion of the details of the deal, these schoolchildren are escaping out of the chat.

The deal is on the buyer's territory, which means that he is able to provide security.

Why would you send "your people" to collect a deposit .. rather than  just send "your people" to do the deal there and then?

EDIT. (corrected my quoting)

Thanks for the advice, but I didn't notice any interest (from this user) in my offer.
I'm not the most polite person in the community. And if a person chooses some tone of communication with me, I don't care, I answer the same.

Sure.

Don't trust - verify.
If we are going to build on this concept now, then you can find someone you trust from the Russian-speaking community who will be able to verify information about my partners. If you don't trust anyone from the Russian-speaking community, then you can look for someone from your own circle of trusted people who can trust someone from the Russian-speaking community, and then they will be able to check the reputation of my partners. If nobody trusts anybody, then you're right about this moment - you won't be able to check the reputation of my partners.

What do I mean by that? That if there is a real buyer (not another storyteller/Nigerian prince/etc from Telegram), then we will try to provide him all the necessary information. A chat room will be created where all parties of the deal will be present (before the insurance deposit is made) to discuss the details of the deal. After that, if(!) the buyer agrees with the terms of the offer, he will be required to make an insurance deposit.

Yes:


No, you don't:

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Continue the discussion of the service you mentioned in another part of the forum.

And people are asking legitimate questions about your offer.  Being sarcastic and arrogant is likely to prevent you from making a deal, while being open and transparent may help.



I have no reason to doubt the legitimacy of this proposal, but this statement above gives me the willies.  All business propositions have inherent risk, and it's usually expected that both sides enter an agreement willing to assume some of that risk.  Here it looks like the potential buyer must assume all the risk, and the seller wins either way.  And the concern of "running away" still remains.  I must take your word that these people (whom I don't know) have an excellent reputation (which I can't confirm.)  So I'm expected to trust this "document/receipt" is going to prevent people I don't know, with a reputation I can't confirm from running away with $6500 of my money?  What's so special about this "document/receipt?"  Does it include the seller's KYC?



By this statement I can conclude that you expect the potential buyer to pay the wages of your people whether a deal is reached or not.  Am I correct?

No less strange are your arguments. You haven't heard, which means it's already funny.

The document/receipt for this amount of money are not from some forum nickname, but from public person.

So there's no need to continue discussing the deal.

300 EUR? That's is really funny.  I'm really wondering how you imagine it. Our people will travel to Portugal for 300 EUR? And if the deal is disrupted by the buyer? And after Portugal, a schoolboy with 300 EUR will offer a deal in Greece, and what, go to Greece? For 300 EUR?
If you can work with such conditions, at a minimum of 20k USD/EUR, without KYC/AML/proof-of-funds -- then I am truly happy for you.

Everything is simple, if you do not agree to work according to our rules, then look for another seller, in which I sincerely wish you success, because it is likely that other sellers from you (the buyer) for 99,98% will require KYC/AML/proof-of-funds, blood/urine analysis, etc.

Well, work with the others. What's the problem? 

Thats funny.
I never ever heard of cashtrades that are done like that.
To meet, pay a deposit and receive a paper...
...buyer has to trust to someone unknown.
The reputation that your partners maybe have says nothing to the buyer.
If anyone asks for a deposit before cashtrade, then its only to cover the cost of travel to the meeting BEFORE the meeting, and of reasonable amount(g.e.300Euros) but never ever at the meeting.
Well even that kind of deposit is not very common...
100% of all cashtrades are done without your senseless and dangerous(for the buyer) deposit.

And?  

Our people are meeting with the buyer, taking his insurance deposit and leaving him document/receipt for this amount of money.
About "running away". The people I work with have an excellent reputation, they have been working on the OTC-market of Ukraine, Russia and Belarus for many years.

First you say "Security deposit amount: 6500 EUR or USD"  then you say "I, The FuzzStone, will never ask you to transfer any money to me!"

The security deposit happens first, then you meet the buyer?  Where does the security deposit go?  What's to stop you from running off with the security deposit?

Please follow the rules of the forum.

Local (Russian) thread is here, so, if you're really interested in this offer, ask there.

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Due to the corona-marasmus/crisis (call it whatever you want) it is difficult to move around the world and in some countries you cannot go at all.  So, as long as you see this post - this topic may be considered not valid.









You can buy with cash only Bitcoin, Ethereum, Monero and/or other cryptocurrencies (which are listed on Binance) in any city in Europe, without KYC/AML, and without proof-of-funds!


Terms and conditions of the deal if you want to buy crypto from us:

1. Deals are made on your territory: Official Exchange / Security House / Hotel / Other Location

2. The first test trade is not less than 20k USD or EUR, and not more than 200k EUR or USD;

3. The percentage is corrected and discussed 1/2/3 days before the deal and depends on the country, volume and market situation;

• To find out the current interest rate, please DM via the forum, or the contacts listed at the end of this topic;

4. All deals are made with the use of an insurance deposit;

Security deposit amount: 6500 EUR or USD

- Paid in advance for date booking;
- We are ready to provide a document/receipt for this amount;
- In case of successful deal - the deposit is returned to the buyer;
- In case of the buyer's disruption of the deal - the deposit is not returned;
- In case of deal disruption on our part - the deposit is returned to the buyer;

Deal Scheme

• Before the deal itself, everybody meets on the spot, gets introduced, and gives their consent again!
• In case the buyer refuses to accept the previously adopted terms of the deal, the deal is cancelled. Thus, the deposit is not returned!

I'd like to draw your attention

- Once the seller counts the money, no one touches it, otherwise the money will have to be checked and counted again!
- The seller decides how to recalculate and check the money! (banknote counter/manual/scanner, etc.)
- During the test, or the main deal, nobody leaves, and does not enter into the room. Until the end of the deal!
- The time of deals is not earlier than 9 am (local time), and not later than 14:00 (local time). If there is no deal after 2 hours after the appointed time - the courier leaves and the security deposit is not returned.

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Terms and conditions of the deal if you want to sell us your crypto:

Example. The client wants to sell his BTC and get EUR in Prague:

1. We're negotiating the volume of the deal;
2. Determine the date, place and time of the deal, and when our couriers will be able to come there to give the client a fiat;
3. A day before the deal, the client sends us BTC, we fix them in USDT, count the cross rate of EUR, and the next day the client receives EUR.

For the rest of the countries, it works roughly the same way. If the client is not in the capital, then the delivery of the fiat can take 2-3 days.

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If you have any questions - feel free to ask them via PM.

To get the fastest possible answer, text me in Telegram (not in secret chats).
My only Telegram-account: https://t.me/thefuzzstone   to make sure you are communicating with me -- forward my any message to the bot https://t.me/userinfobot and you should see my Telegram ID: 253373664

Additional checking (optional, but highly recommended) --> verify my PGP-key.
Simply ask me to sign any message (e.g. date and exact time when you communicate with me) and then copy-paste my signature here --> https://keybase.io/verify

You don't need to be a cyberpunk to check my PGP key, and you don't need to install additional software. Ask me to sign the message: "Hi! It's TheFuzzStone, today's DD/MM/YYYY, HH/MM time". Insert the signed message here --> https://keybase.io/verify and click on the "Verify" button.

You should see:



With these two simple tips, you'll never get into trouble with scammers who might pretend to be me.
Here's my profile: https://keybase.io/thefuzzst0ne

More info about me:  https://thefuzzstone.github.io/

Due to the corona-marasmus/crisis (call it whatever you want) it is difficult to move around the world and in some countries you cannot go at all.  So, as long as you see this post - this topic may be considered not valid.




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For almost 5 years in the crypto community I have collected a lot of useful contacts of various directions.

So, if you need to buy/sell any crypto from Binance, or just move money (USD, EUR or GBP) from one country to another - text me via PM or Telegram. (see below)

Let me remind you once again that all operations with cash are performed without KYC/AML, and without proof-of-funds.

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Cross-country transfer services

USA

Los Angeles
Miami
New York City

Europe

Berlin
Zürich
Athens
Cyprus
Vilnius
Frankfurt
Prague
Vienna
Budapest
Warsaw
Rome
London
Riga
Chișinău
Tiraspol
As well as many other cities on request. Depends on your request/assignment.

Commonwealth of Independent States

Minsk
Moscow
Almaty
Saint Petersburg
Baku


Eastern countries

Israel (Tel Aviv)
Dubai
Saudi Arabia
İstanbul
Additional regions are available on request.


Ukraine

Kyiv
Dnipro
Zaporizhzhia
Mykolaiv
Kryvyi Rih
Lviv
Ivano-Frankivsk
Odesa
Vinnytsia
Ternopil
Chernivtsi
Mariupol'
Sumy
Poltava
Melitopol'
Kherson
Rivne
Kharkiv
Cherkasy

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Buy/sell crypto without KYC/AML, without proof-of-funds

* It is possible to buy/sell crypto for cash in Ukraine;

* It is possible to buy/sell crypto for cash in Russia (Moscow, St. Petersburg, other cities on request);

* We can sell you crypto in Europe, under the well-established scheme with our own encashment (terms are here);

* Yuan payment to cards of individuals (or legal entities) for cash (USD, RUB, UAH, EUR) or USDT in Ukraine and Russia;

* Buying yuan from the accounts of legal entities from China;

* Buying/selling ADVcash, Perfect Money and other electronic money;

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If you have any questions - feel free to ask them via PM.

To get the fastest possible answer, text me in Telegram (not in secret chats).
My only Telegram-account: https://t.me/thefuzzstone   to make sure you are communicating with me -- forward my any message to the bot https://t.me/userinfobot and you should see my Telegram ID: 253373664

Additional checking (optional, but highly recommended) --> verify my PGP-key.
Simply ask me to sign any message (e.g. date and exact time when you communicate with me) and then copy-paste my signature here --> https://keybase.io/verify

You don't need to be a cyberpunk to check my PGP key, and you don't need to install additional software. Ask me to sign the message: "Hi! It's TheFuzzStone, today's DD/MM/YYYY, HH/MM time". Insert the signed message here --> https://keybase.io/verify and click on the "Verify" button.

You should see:



With these two simple tips, you'll never get into trouble with scammers who might pretend to be me.
Here's my profile: https://keybase.io/thefuzzst0ne

More info about me:  https://thefuzzstone.github.io/

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And one more important thing that will save time and nerves for both (me and you)

When you text me, please:

• don't ask me how I'm doing, I'm doing fine, really.
• don't ask if I sell Bitcoin, Monero or insert_the_name_of_the_desired_crypto - you can buy everything that is listed on Binance.

Also, when you text me in Telegram, please don't text me
in
this
way
because
it doesn't
add
any
pleasure to
our
communication.

If you want to get the fastest possible response, please specify the maximum amount of information in one message: country and city where you want to trade, fiat currency and its amount, as well as some additional comments, example:


Thanks.