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newbie
Activity: 18
Merit: 0
March 29, 2013, 07:08:48 PM
#9
I am interested in leading a crowd funded ASIC miner project.
I have electronics and crypto background and lately I've been busy making a FPGA-based miner with Xilinx Virtex 6 devices.
I never made an ASIC but I think that a period of 9 months should be enough (in this case the target would be by the end of the year).
I know that by then the difficulty will be very high and this miner will not be able to bring the numbers that Avalon brings nowadays, but this project would further help decentralize the mining of the bitcoin (considering that today Avalon has monopoly).
sr. member
Activity: 279
Merit: 250
March 29, 2013, 05:13:57 PM
#8
IMO Crowdsourcing would work better for buying bulk prefab ASIC chips (from Avalon, maybe helv in the future) and working from there; less risk if knowledgeable/experienced parties are involved. Vetting processes and possible recourse laid out in contracts etc...

August 9, 2012, forum user Friedcat describes investment opportunity for ASICMINER, which was to produce the chips to be mined by related organization MOORE mining.  $100K USD funds raised via GLBSE (equity crowdfunding), a record for a GLBSE raise, I believe, up until that time.

ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It
 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-entering-the-future-of-asic-mining-by-inventing-it-99497


February 14th, 2013, ASICMINER running 2.0 Thash/s against BTC GUILD, with much more to com:
 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1527549


The first couple of weekly dividends on those ASICMINER shares were returning dividends of well over a third of the initial investment (in terms of BTCs dividend versus BTCs issued at).

bingo
legendary
Activity: 2506
Merit: 1010
March 29, 2013, 05:10:32 PM
#7
IMO Crowdsourcing would work better for buying bulk prefab ASIC chips (from Avalon, maybe helv in the future) and working from there; less risk if knowledgeable/experienced parties are involved. Vetting processes and possible recourse laid out in contracts etc...

August 9, 2012, forum user Friedcat describes investment opportunity for ASICMINER, which was to produce the chips to be mined by related organization MOORE mining.  $100K USD funds raised via GLBSE (equity crowdfunding), a record for a GLBSE raise, I believe, up until that time.

ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It
 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-entering-the-future-of-asic-mining-by-inventing-it-99497


February 14th, 2013, ASICMINER running 2.0 Thash/s against BTC GUILD, with much more to com:
 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1527549


The first couple of weekly dividends on those ASICMINER shares were returning dividends of well over a third of the initial investment (in terms of BTCs dividend versus BTCs issued at).
sr. member
Activity: 279
Merit: 250
March 29, 2013, 03:41:07 PM
#6
It all comes down to who heads up the project after all the cash comes pouring in.

Unless you have a competent team behind the wheel your gonna crash the party. Even semi-professional outfits like BFL that have delivered product(s) in the past have failed to live up to their promises. Same goes for the other end of the spectrum.

IMO Crowdsourcing would work better for buying bulk prefab ASIC chips (from Avalon, maybe helv in the future) and working from there; less risk if knowledgeable/experienced parties are involved. Vetting processes and possible recourse laid out in contracts etc...
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
March 29, 2013, 03:26:22 PM
#5
Yeah, I'm not talking about Avalon.  I was specifically referring to the (most likely) millions of dollars wasted on ASIC scams thus far.  We might have had another serious contender.  Oh well.  Cry

Both BFL and bASIC were structured like crowdsourcing efforts, and we've all seen how that went.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
March 29, 2013, 03:25:03 PM
#4
Yeah, I'm not talking about Avalon.  I was specifically referring to the (most likely) millions of dollars wasted on ASIC scams thus far.  We might have had another serious contender.  Oh well.  Cry
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1001
Okey Dokey Lokey
March 29, 2013, 03:21:33 PM
#3
You know, something just hit me.  Would it have been possible, given all of the BTC and USD/EUR wasted on ASIC scams thus far, to have crowdsourced an ASIC?
You must be really new to bitcoins....
We already have ASIC's
And we already have ASIC's owned by multiple people (shares and dividends)
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
March 29, 2013, 03:21:02 PM
#2
Isn't that what BFL is?
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
March 29, 2013, 03:19:31 PM
#1
You know, something just hit me.  Would it have been possible, given all of the BTC and USD/EUR wasted on ASIC scams thus far, to have crowdsourced an ASIC?
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