Topic: Crypto arbitrage for noobs (Read 562 times)

In arbitrage trading anything can happen so we need luck to make profits,the most risky of arbitrage trade is the confirmation time bstween the transaction which can make the profits into loss if it takes long time.

one of the best practice before dealing with this type of trading, you must learned how to review coins that you are eyeing to deal with arbs,
knowing if the coins can be moved quickly so timing will be perfect for you, most of the time bots are working with the volume so checking
from cmc can give you good hints if the coins is good for arbs trading.

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This will help you to learn about crypto arbitrage trading. You have to keep in mind that when you enter that kind of trading, you shall take any risk. Not all the time, the prices will be in favor for you. Anyway, be positive and goodluck.

make sure the marketcaps of coins you use for arbitrage are small, so the time you use for the deposit will not change the position of prices on the market. but the risk does still exist, as prices change at any time and could harm you.

I am not sure whether it is possible right now, earlier we could see the difference in price in many different exchanges but now a times it is very difficult to find the difference and even if you find one it takes a lot of time for the coins to withdraw from an exchange and by that time the advantage is lost, it was fun when there were instant withdrawals but right now i am not sure whether this is possible.

Crypto arbitrage is actually not so slow in getting result and the price difference is not necessarily sell, it’s about choosing the right coin and the right system which in this case is the exchange, this is the main reason why this systems looks slow to lots of traders/ investors out there.

Most of the exchanges need a few days to be able to validate deposit and withdrawal and sometimes network could be down or wallet being maintained. To enjoy crypto arbitrage and get a fast result, it’s best to mitigate risk by using well known exchanges with large trade volumes.

If we speak about trading arbitrage then it works for everything absolutely. you just need to find 2 exchanges or brokers which offers trsding the same coin with leverage.

It is very important you should google as there are many arbitrage trading software and application that makes arbitrage trading easy for you.  However you can start by using http://coinmarketcap.com or blockfolio application as this is the way I learned arbitrage trading.

Learning about crypto arbitrage is not an issue, there are so many resources out there on the internet such as Google, YouTube that can point you to the right direction but the challenge in crypto arbitrage is finding arbitrage opportunities which is an essential steps and to go into this, you have to decide if you are to practice arbitrage between exchanges or arbitrage within an exchange.

I am not saying this to scare you away but there are lots of risks associated with crypto arbitrage such as hacking, order getting stock at exchange etc

if trading with a system like this is very slow to get results, because the price difference is not so big. maybe it's better if you trade by following the trend of rising new coins, this can be more profitable for us. this is only an input if you disagree, it's okay. if we observe rising terraces usually move very fast and the price difference can be very high. isn't this a very attractive opportunity for traders.

With market makers and automated bots, there is no more room for arbitrage anymore.

however sometime you can see quite a difference between the price of btc between 2 exchanges, as long as the the difference is large enough and can cover trading costs (trading fees + deposit or withdrawal fees) you can make some profit.

Arbitrage is actually buying and selling of the same coin or any other financial instrument. It works perfect when you trade using leverage.
Though brokers find such badasses as they suppose it violates customer agreement

To learn Gunbot completely, you need to experience it first hand and experience it. (I could give you a demo if you want). Trading wide, you don't actually need to learn too much because the default settings are already good.

Gunbot bring in approximately 0.6 ~ 2% per day. Depending also on the market price as ction.

No limit, as soon long as you have balance. It will trade with the right limits. What I like with Bitmex is that you could leverage trade and take in more profits.

I think it's better to do cryptocurrency trading than arbitrage trading because it's more complex and difficult to learn. I still learning on arbitrage trading and I don't make a good profit with that. But I see my chance to make a nice profit will bigger in the cryptocurrency trading, so I suggest to him to stay in the cryptocurrency trading only. Until he can master cryptocurrency trading and learn more about arbitrage trading, then he can try to do arbitrage trading but remember, always analyze before you do trading.

If you are new to cryptocurrency trading I would advise you to learn the basics of trading before venturing into a difficult stuff like arbitrage trading.
You also need to factor in the trading and withdrawal fees. Both can actually take away the little profits you could make from arbitrage.

That's the basic knowledge that we shouldn't forget when we want to deal with arbitrage, knowing the speed of transactions and the fee that the exchange will collect plus the miners, you have to calculate and see if the transactions that you will going to deal with can still give you some profits, ost of the time the real earners are those who have a larger investment/funds.

Kind of hard to make money from arbitraging if you don't have a reliable and powerful bot that can automate things for you. There are many algorithms and bots in the market which handle huge amount of capital in order to profit from the price difference between exchanges. So if you don't own such a software, I don't recommend getting yourself into this.

My favourite is DOGE coin. There were cases when I could receive them within 1-2 minutes at destination exchange.
Other coins in my favourite "back carriers" list include RDD, XVG.

When having no more "ask volume" for repeated fast arbitrage, I used to put ask orders at the coins having quite fast blockchain like
NLC2, CHESS, ADC, ARCO, FJC, OK, IFT, CL, etc. with confirmations ranging from 6 to 20 and with withdrawal fee ranging from 0.001 to 0.01 of a coin. Thus I could have my BTC back at my "master" exchange with double profit, I mean profit from selling a particular coin at destination exchange plus that for selling "BTC back carrier coin" at "master" exchange. 

arbitage has a very big risk, if you can do this or you can get the good time, i think you will loss some mney to pay the fee, you need to learn about the speed of transfering and the fee, if you can manage the time when you transfer and count the fee i think you can start the arbitage..

Even when you see some differences in prices, and you tend to transfer coins from one exchange to another, by the time the transfer is done, the prices are back to normal. I tried few time arbitrage trading but never got any serious benefit out of it and also I do not recommend this to anyone to waste time on this type of trading.

Arbitraging does not work well in crypto and therefore it is least used. The price of coins are almost similar in all exchanges and it is very unlikely that we see any big differences in the price of a coin on different exchanges. In few cases, when an exchange disables the withdraw/deposit of a coin for a certain time we may see some difference in price but as soon as the withdraw/deposit enables the prices are again synced to be equal in all exchanges.

Right now Crypto is way too popular for any type of profitable arbitrage opportunies. There are basically thousands of bots that monitor every single pair and every single price and they do arbitrage in seconds.

A few years back, sometime in 2014 or so it was different. If you had a lot of screen time and set alerts you could of easily arbiraged 2-3% here and there and net a good profit at the end of the week.

I remember I didn't even have to hedge, I would just buy on one exchange, withdraw it and it would usually arrive and confirm in a few minutes and would sell on the other exchange.

These days its impossible to find opportunies as such.

You also need to factor the speed of your transactions. Arbitraging Bitcoin might be impossible, on top of that, some exchanges take a very long time before deposit/withdrawal got an approval. I'd rather not do any arbitrage tbh, it's too risky and require a great deal of capital to be succesfull.


What coins that you prefer? Maybe XRP/XLM are two of them.

According to my personal experience, arbitrage is still possible for a noob. Turning like 0.001 BTC into 0.01 BTC in a month or so may be not feasible for those having over 1 BTC of their total crypto holdings but for the noobs quite aware of what a crypto exchange is and eager to collect some more profit it would be of interest. Imho, at least those noobs still collecting  micro earnings from crypto faucets might find it feasible. Nevertheless, it requires time and efforts.

Important thing one has to bear in mind before starting is that arbitrage is risky, be ready to lose the coins involved without regret.

While doing arbitrage I have elaborated some of the key steps in making progress in my arbitrage fun:
-   choose two exchanges to your liking;
-   choose the one which would be the “master” exchange, i.e. used for initial investment and subsequent withdrawals of profit;
-   prepare a list of coins available at two exchanges;
-   check for full names of the coins because the short ones may vary at a particular exchange;
-   check online status of wallets at “master” exchange and highlight those available for withdrawals and deposits;
-   check for price difference among the coins with “green” highlighted wallets;
-   calculate the fees involved, i.e. trading fee at Exchange A, withdrawal fee from Exchange A, Deposit fee at Exchange B (if any), trading fee at Exchange B.
-   find a “back carrier” coin. My requirements to such a coin include: it is on fast blockchain, withdrawal fee is low, the number of confirmations at destination exchange is small, it can be easily sold with profit  or at the price compensated by enough profit from arbitrage to;

Issues to be checked before adding a new coin to your arbitrage list:
-   the wallets must be on the same blockchain and of course “green”;
-   withdrawal fee;
-   number of confirmations required to have your deposit at destination exchange;

Issued to be checked before each transaction:
-   “ask” volume at destination exchange;
-   wallets status: “online” or “offline”

The more coins, the more arbitrage opportunities

Crypto arbitrage is not for noobs, its not even for people who have insane experience in it. It is for bots, there are too many bots around the world that buys and sells in different platforms and sometimes even they are too slow to react considering deposits and withdrawals take time and they are not instant, because of that many people lose money.

Arbitrage is a risky business and takes a lot of time so you would need to be both experienced in it and be very fast with it in order to make it work. You also need to find places that are as instant as possible on deposits and withdrawals so you can actually make money.

I would suggest everyone to stay away from arbitrage as much as you can unless you own a great arbitrage bot and also use two very fast exchanges to trade in between.

How long did it take to learn that?
How much does the Gunbot's bring in profits??
Is there a special limit for the entry amount of bitcoins?

How do you like Bitmex?

There are a lot of guides that could give you and some bots that knows what to do with that. I haven’t tried any of it or if it will be profitable. As of now, I’m doing margin trading and with a bot that automatically trades for me. Gunbot is trading for me automatically in Bitmex.

Yeah moreover there are lots of exchanges, and lots of coins that are on the market, if you use them manually it will certainly take up a lot of your time, and arbitrage profits will also not be great if you don't use large capital, because the price margin will not be much different in each exchange

If you have a huge funds, it's worth it to arbitrage whenever there is a huge market price between exchanges. However, if you just have enough funds, it's better not to arbitrage since the fee will cost you to lose money rather than making profit.

Buy coin in market A, sell in market B. But don't forget to look about fees, spread, buy/sell wall and what most important is what coin that you want to arbitrage can be send between 2 markets.

I am not finding anything wrong as I am capable of figuring out price gaps among my hectic schedules which including my day job and trading along with forum posting too. I mean you do not need to dedicate time only for the reason of arbitrage trading. You may do it with sharp eye-balls and also you might need to check in 2 or more changes for quick spot out.

After the popularity of stablecoins like tether arbitrage trading has become easier compared to old times. Usually price gaps are frequently possible with USD based markets but unfortunately we were unable to move funds quicker in fiats but stablecoins had significantly eased that part in arbitrage trading.

and when you transfer the coin to other exchange, fees and time required to transfer are additional obstacles that also need to be counted to gain more profit.
Having an alarm for price change is quite good idea so you can avoid lose or minimize them.

You don't need to see a large margin, you can take advantage even with a small difference if you have a large amount of capital.
I sometimes did this in the past, I saw a good a big price difference on a certain coin between bittrex and Hitbtc and I immediately took advantage to it.
That gives me a good profit instantly, but this does not happen all the time though.

That is a very simple thing, but the current market situation is not very supportive.
Fee for large transactions between exchanges can reduce profits so that if the difference is small then it will not be profitable.
There must be a large margin to be able to make a profit.

There are some apps that can help you to find the arbitrage difference in different exchanges, but you still need to check by yourself, some pointers that you need to know is check the buy and sell volume, check the speed transaction of the coin and check the exchanges legitimate, you will need to register in many exchanges to try arbitrage

Some most known traps are frozen deposit/withdrawals for specific token/coin. Last year X coin was trading on Hitbtc and suddenly some twitter accounts started to spread news about binance listing which is unlikely. 1 day later X coin was listed on binance and arbitrage opportunity happened with more than 20% profit. Unfortunately Hitbtc decided to freeze coin deposit,withdrawals for unknown reason. In such case loss is unavoidable.

Arbitrage trading might sounds easy but i would tell you this that finding possible opportunities of these kind of trades would really be hard.If you do able to find one then

self-execution would be crucial because price spreads doesnt last for a long period of time.If you successfully made order and make profits then youre good but if you missed the chance

then it will cost you (fees), might not be much but still a decrease.

in order to benefit from two different markets you must to be fast, it is difficult to do it if someone also knows which crypto is different in the market. there are also those who implement traps for traders who arbitrage must be more careful in determining crypto

There are also some bots that can you arbitrage. Apitrade is one of them if I am not wrong. I have never done it before but I think to use a bot will be better. It is too hard to follow the market for routine arbitrages.

A person would have to be mad to try this crypto arbitraging. Profit seems very unlikely.

It is actually difficult doing it but easier when you are just thinking about it.  Sorry for my whack explanation but that is how I see it.

First, you will pick two exchange. They have to be legitimate to avoid losing your funds.
Next is picking the right coin to arbitrage. This is the hard part of all. There are so many out there.

You will have to monitor the price of both exchange. Better if you will have like an alarm for every price change.

Learning arbitrage trading is easier one but spotting out the real market opportunity of arbitrage is too hard. Arbitrage trading is nothing but making use of price gaps across exchanges. It means some times (very rarely) price of one coin may be trading in gap compared to another exchange. If you are capable of moving coins quicker and capable of catch to those price gaps then you may get some assured profits.

I never encourage people to spend time for spotting price gaps because it will lead to waste their time. Instead of spending time for looking for arbitrage trading, it would be much better to go with some high volume coins along with strong technical analysis as it will guarantee some profits at least on weekly basis.

For new starters it will be better to learn basics before making any attempt. Arbitrage is like grabbing opportunity when it shows itself in the corner. After finding your edge you can automate your strategy and there are numerous bots which do all all the required job without any stress,time. Just pay and wait for profit in case of combining both bias and bot

Also some accept fiat deposits / withdrawals and others accept stable coins (and the price is not always the same).
Also you may have to take into account the block times, meaning if you want to move the same Bitcoin from one exchange to another, it means time, which may end up with the target exchange already getting to the same price as the source (and this means that you may have to keep some Bitcoin and fiat/stable coins waiting on multiple exchanges if you want to better profits).
I think that there's a learning curve, you'll need quite some luck until you got everything right.

Arbitrage trade is more profitable and low risk. But also should investigate before buying any coin or depositing any coin to any exchange. Because sometime exchange disable withdraw or deposit. So should clear about deposit/withdraw . Then sometime some exchange ask kyc for withdrawing fund. It is an another issue that should be clear.

And may be I have seen in cryptopia a service that helps to do arbitrage trading. They show a page where we can see some coin price of different  exchange in one place. So it was a good service. But Now cryptopia have an issue after hacked and now it being maintenance . So don't try to use this exhange at this momen. Good luck.thanks

I don't think arbitrage is worth attempting, transferring between exchanges can take a long time and any profits you may have had will get eaten up in fees.  The market is relatively efficient so there won't be any major price differences between exchanges anyway.

Crypto arbitrage sounds like an expensive endeavor. 

I recommend you not to run behind the big ones, look to the others.

While it is currently possible to find price difference around $50-60 between Bitcoin's prices in some exchanges, why do you think it is not lucrative? Also it is not right to expect a big difference in times of stagnation.

Basically arbitrage is not holding the coins on different exchange,it is simply buy an coin and move to other exchange and then have to sell so in the waiting time we may lose the value of our coin.

Before you ask to learn arbitrage maybe search first if it is profitable! I don't thing arbitrage is profitable anymore in Crypto or at least it is not profitable for small traders you might get rekt by fees, any way you can learn it's basics by googling it and try to simulate it without actually execute anything and see how things will play. I recommend you invest your time in something better than arbitrage in Crypto.

it isn't that simple at all. buying in an arbitrage is easy but you must already have that coin on the other exchange to sell. So it isn't that easy at all.

In my opinion to do decent arbitrage you require a funds of 20 to 25.000$


Put 2000$ on 10 different exchanges. Use 1000$ to purchase 10 different coins each 100$, then purchase 500$ in BTC and remaining 500 you hold in USDT. As soon as you have done that you can start arbitrage in my opinion.

But to become profitable it even is harder. need to take into account the fee you pay on your buy and sell trades, transaction fee if you need to send crypto from 1 to another account.

First practise and learn everything about regular trading. Arbitrage needs so much more things that needed to be taken into account. It isn't easy at all to do arbitrage.
You have to have funds on multiple exchanges. I advice at least 7-8 different exchanges.
Then you need to have different coins on all these exchanges and funds left to buy coins.
Trading fees are very important in arbitrage, but also transaction fees to shift crypto from 1 exchange to another.

Arbitrage trading is something I would never suggest to someone with none or only basic trading experience.

If you want to get involved in arbitrage I rather suggest you to do it in sports betting. Much easier over there. I love arbitrage myself but I will never apply it in my trading. I exclusively do arbitrage in sport betting. to do it in sport betting there is wonderful software available that practically does everything automatically but thats impossible in crypto

Getting started from scratch entails understanding the rudiments of arbitrage trading, the risks, common mistakes, the possibilities etc. Read extensively.

Then practice, this can be done through demo trading. I don't know ow of any site specifically for arbitrage, but there should be if you check around.
Then you are ready to go live.

You need to find the difference between the prices in several exchanges and convert it to profit. But you have to pay attention that there are a lot of people doing these with bots easily and you should use the time correctly.

I think there is no recommended site to arbitrage.
Because every exchanges have different price on different coin. So you better have account on many exchange and find out what exchanges best.
Personally, I still not doing arbitrage but I have some exchange account which give me knowledge about different price.

I think you will be faced with many hardships if  you try to implement arbitrage trading in practice. It may look attractive on paper, but in practice, forget it. I mean, you have to find the right pair, you have to be sure you can move funds quickly between exchanges, you have to be sure there are no current withdrawal issues, you have to calculate the fees, and maybe if you are lucky you can earn something. There are bots that can do arbitrage, I haven't tried them so I don't know if they are any better.

So you mean exchanges like Coinbase and Binance?  What other exchanges are there for this that you recommend?

How do you exactly calculate all the fees so you know exactly how much profit you turn?

There's a lots of fundamentals that you needed to learned regarding to this, commonly it's an opportunity between two exchange where value of certain coins have good differences, you need to start by knowing the coins and exchange that you'll going to used, this is two important factors before you go further.

After recognizing the coins and exchange, you need also to have good fundings, as difference between the price is not that huge, but decent enough to give you profits.

Find a coin with price difference on two exchanges then buy fro exchange where the price is low and sell on the price where it is selling high,just simple though.

How do I get started with learning more about this? Any pointers?