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Topic: Crypto Art record! 69M for a Beeple (Read 507 times)

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March 24, 2021, 09:19:25 AM
#54
Found out about this in the news days ago. Sorry, I forgot the name of the program.
The fun part is the anchors having no idea how the hell that happened.
They even said, "How could that be an art?"  Grin
Also trying to understand what NFT's are from a crypto enthusiast explaining everything. But they still can't figure out anything.

That just explains there are still a lot of people out there who have heard about cryptocurrencies but never tried to understand it.
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March 24, 2021, 09:00:38 AM
#53
I would consider this currency situation with NFT as mad rush! This is insane! Millions of dollars for a JPG file!!! Super strange and absolute nonsense. Few people are definitely making money out of this but I am sure this mad rush is not going to run for longer! Because people are paying millions for an asset which they can't touch or feel and has no value in real world. It's either a marketing masterstroke or an absolute idiotic act! It's getting even worse than central bank money printing!
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March 23, 2021, 12:38:16 PM
#52
I wonder who are those guys spending that much of money for an art, this can be a good market for them and a lot of money to spend for.

NFT are growing, and It think this year will be the best year for them, so congrats to all the early supporters of NFT and for sure its not too late to join with them. Working with some arts now, let’s see if its worth to try.

It's simply because its Beeple.That's it.
Beeple have been a great artist even with or without NFT. So avid fans taking advantage to legally "own" his artwork thru NFT.
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March 22, 2021, 11:00:03 PM
#51
the pic looks blurry so i open it in new tab but it was still unclear . i dont know what kind of art was that and why it was sold that high but i think that was normal for an nft because even others sells more weird things that arent consider to be an art anymore .

 i notice that most nft that are sold are expensive , this nft is not for us poor but thats okay because poor dont like to collect stuffs hehe
It is every single art he has ever made all combined to one picture. You could see squares and many of them, each of them is one art that he has made so far, that is why it worths so much because you basically own an NFT that would be all of his works together and if he doesn't end up selling all of it again and again, that means you own the only NFT there is that combines all of his works together in one, kind of like you own all of his work.

The owner could easily end up making it bigger and printing it to put it on his wall as well but that is not what NFT is for, he just owns it somewhere and stored it, when this guy gets more and more famous, and when he dies, suddenly his things will worth more. Obviously it should never worth 69 million dollars, nft is a craze right now, this craze will die down and the price of this will go down as well, but its history made anyway.

It was never about "owning" the art in the physical world.  All NFT does is record in a blockchain that you "own" the art, and for some reason that's worth 69 million dollars.  I think you're right about this being attributable to a craze, like everything else crypto right now.
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March 22, 2021, 04:14:45 AM
#50
the pic looks blurry so i open it in new tab but it was still unclear . i dont know what kind of art was that and why it was sold that high but i think that was normal for an nft because even others sells more weird things that arent consider to be an art anymore .

 i notice that most nft that are sold are expensive , this nft is not for us poor but thats okay because poor dont like to collect stuffs hehe
It is every single art he has ever made all combined to one picture. You could see squares and many of them, each of them is one art that he has made so far, that is why it worths so much because you basically own an NFT that would be all of his works together and if he doesn't end up selling all of it again and again, that means you own the only NFT there is that combines all of his works together in one, kind of like you own all of his work.

The owner could easily end up making it bigger and printing it to put it on his wall as well but that is not what NFT is for, he just owns it somewhere and stored it, when this guy gets more and more famous, and when he dies, suddenly his things will worth more. Obviously it should never worth 69 million dollars, nft is a craze right now, this craze will die down and the price of this will go down as well, but its history made anyway.
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March 21, 2021, 02:46:37 PM
#49
No, your website example is not enough proof that they own something, not even close. It's simple - if there is not a good relationship between the token and the digital art, then the entire market will collapse and be worth almost nothing. If you can actually own digital art as a unique buyer, then there is value. In your example the website IS the object. But owning a digital token is not owning the digital art. It's like owning a piece of paper that says you own gold, versus actually owning gold. They are not both the same thing.
Maybe it's just like a license and anyone else in the digital space or we often call it Internet can't really use the image without your approval and the file is sent through private like emails or etc though I wonder how's the practice of enforcing the law with these NFTs, are they really useful as a proof of ownership?
That has been the case for regular paintings as well but that didn't stop the original ones being worth money. DO not get me wrong I do not think that these things worth this much money, and I think in a year this will worth probably under a million dollars, or maybe a bit more because it was the most expensive at one time but that was about it. However one thing is for sure, if we are talking about owning rights to a painting that would be enough.

Let me put it this way, you have seen the painting of mona lisa right? How many times did you see the original painting and how many times did you see it out of the original painting (like jpg, google, online, tv shows, movies etc etc)? You will realize that sure it could be seen everywhere and you can just share it on google everywhere, hell we have seen this beeple thingy here as well as other places, so we all know we can share it, yet it still worths money just like how real mona lisa still worths money.
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March 21, 2021, 04:56:42 AM
#48
I'm not an art connoisseur or something but that art looks like it has been taken straight from Minecraft and has been pieced together to form its entirety..


So true, usually these kind of art works are pretty cool. They are pieced together to make one picture which can be clearly seen as something a face, person or something else. In this case i cant see anything there.

I get how this is cool and interesting for art investors but the amount of money spent is just outrageous. I wonder, maybe it was done to grab attention to NFT market.
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March 21, 2021, 04:11:16 AM
#47
No, your website example is not enough proof that they own something, not even close. It's simple - if there is not a good relationship between the token and the digital art, then the entire market will collapse and be worth almost nothing. If you can actually own digital art as a unique buyer, then there is value. In your example the website IS the object. But owning a digital token is not owning the digital art. It's like owning a piece of paper that says you own gold, versus actually owning gold. They are not both the same thing.
Maybe it's just like a license and anyone else in the digital space or we often call it Internet can't really use the image without your approval and the file is sent through private like emails or etc though I wonder how's the practice of enforcing the law with these NFTs, are they really useful as a proof of ownership?
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March 21, 2021, 02:56:41 AM
#46
There are a lot of platforms that allowing their users to sell their art but again with a certain condition. Some of them are needed to go past their KYC well this is not good if you want to keep for self as anonymous. Instead, there are still some of them that required you to pay a small amount just to publish your art.

I don't want to drop them because there are a lot more.
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March 20, 2021, 10:37:50 PM
#45
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But what exactly do you own? So I get that the buyer owns a token with a unique digital signature, say the public key is:

4985POSDIEFUA8OW3FJUWOI8FJWAOWAO398FJ8OIKL

But what does that have to do with Beeple's 5000-image artwork? Is the file which is hundreds of megabytes ALSO stored in the blockchain? What is the relationship between the unique digital token and the artwork?
Why do you ask these question in the first place? Do you plan to buy the artwork and negotiate it at lower prices by reasoning that you don't own anything physically. The answer to your question is simple, owning the NFT is like basically owning a website, you know that you can't hold it physically but you know that you are the owner of it, and you mentioned that there is a token as proof, isn't that enough proof that they own something?

If you don't have property rights you don't own it. If you own a website, you can stop people from visiting the website, you can change the content, etc.  The "owner" of this digital artwork can't stop people from viewing the work, or even stop them from digitally owning a copy of it.  There are no property rights associated with this "ownership" so the concept of owning it is completely fictitious.  The NFT owner doesn't own the artwork, he owns a hash in a blockchain that he hopes others will recognize means he owns it but in reality actually has zero real-world ownership properties.
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March 15, 2021, 06:33:24 PM
#44
He deserved the price his art is getting. Been following his page and it is nothing short of awesome and creepy at the same time, but because it's an eye-opener and not just creepy for the sake of creepy. Most of all, he accentuates digital art, which surprisingly still is receiving tons of hate from trad art connoisseurs about how "easy" it is to create pieces in it. Nevertheless props to the man. I highly suggest you go check his Facebook page out as he posts content there regularly.
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March 15, 2021, 01:39:45 PM
#43
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But what exactly do you own? So I get that the buyer owns a token with a unique digital signature, say the public key is:

4985POSDIEFUA8OW3FJUWOI8FJWAOWAO398FJ8OIKL

But what does that have to do with Beeple's 5000-image artwork? Is the file which is hundreds of megabytes ALSO stored in the blockchain? What is the relationship between the unique digital token and the artwork?
Why do you ask these question in the first place? Do you plan to buy the artwork and negotiate it at lower prices by reasoning that you don't own anything physically. The answer to your question is simple, owning the NFT is like basically owning a website, you know that you can't hold it physically but you know that you are the owner of it, and you mentioned that there is a token as proof, isn't that enough proof that they own something?

No, your website example is not enough proof that they own something, not even close. It's simple - if there is not a good relationship between the token and the digital art, then the entire market will collapse and be worth almost nothing. If you can actually own digital art as a unique buyer, then there is value. In your example the website IS the object. But owning a digital token is not owning the digital art. It's like owning a piece of paper that says you own gold, versus actually owning gold. They are not both the same thing.
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March 15, 2021, 02:38:03 AM
#42
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But what exactly do you own? So I get that the buyer owns a token with a unique digital signature, say the public key is:

4985POSDIEFUA8OW3FJUWOI8FJWAOWAO398FJ8OIKL

But what does that have to do with Beeple's 5000-image artwork? Is the file which is hundreds of megabytes ALSO stored in the blockchain? What is the relationship between the unique digital token and the artwork?
Why do you ask these question in the first place? Do you plan to buy the artwork and negotiate it at lower prices by reasoning that you don't own anything physically. The answer to your question is simple, owning the NFT is like basically owning a website, you know that you can't hold it physically but you know that you are the owner of it, and you mentioned that there is a token as proof, isn't that enough proof that they own something?
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March 15, 2021, 12:43:45 AM
#41
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How do you know they're not collectors, and how you classified someone as collectors?
As far as i know, collectors also sell and buy unique things. Yes true NFT can be anything, but i think there's need some rule to classified NFT.

I define collectors are those people who collect something as a hobby. they collect it not because of the hype. interest, artistic value, and rarity aspect on that things are more important.
NFT could be bought and sold instantly, collectors most likely won't do it. at least they want to enjoy the art first.

Buyer of $69 million Beeple NFT is a crypto investor using the pseudonym Metakovan
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/12/buyer-of-69-million-beeple-nft-is-a-crypto-investo-metakovan.html

IMO, you can make complex art that has high artistic value, but still, NFT with random art with big names behind it and price manipulation will still win.
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March 14, 2021, 06:46:04 PM
#40
Buying this expensive NFT is extremely risky at all. If someone can afford this expensive price, the price is just very small for them, they can afford to lose it at all. They are willing to lose at all.
Recently about NFT trends, tweets also on Twitter can be now bought and sold. I am amazed by these NFT trends now.
It all about the rich investing their free money and nothing else, you might see these crazy big deals taking place to create the hype and eventually it will die out. Who in the right sense will be investing huge amounts for these digital shit. This shit just shows why billions are invested in bitcoin when the price is multiple times higher than its old all time high valuation  Cheesy.
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March 14, 2021, 02:59:36 PM
#39
What do you actually "own" here? Cuz it's not a digital image, which can be replicated infinitely and anyone can access or view. What you own is some signature in a blockchain and a bunch of people who agree that has some special properties that give it value. However, if you don't have property rights over the digital image, you don't own it. It's absurd people believe you could own something that is infinitely replicable.
NFTs have a unique signature in them so there isn't a possibility of replicating it. If you think that it is replicable then why don't you do it? I mean you have a strong adverb there to support your claim. Let's just accept the fact that it isn't our money and the art was worth that much, it's not our money so why do we have to feel regret about it? You think that it is absurd but here we are in a world where Jackson Pollock painting can fetch you millions, you don't understand how rich people think.

But what exactly do you own? So I get that the buyer owns a token with a unique digital signature, say the public key is:

4985POSDIEFUA8OW3FJUWOI8FJWAOWAO398FJ8OIKL

But what does that have to do with Beeple's 5000-image artwork? Is the file which is hundreds of megabytes ALSO stored in the blockchain? What is the relationship between the unique digital token and the artwork?
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March 14, 2021, 02:57:38 PM
#38
What exactly is the buyer getting?

The artwork is hundreds of megabytes. Is it linked in some way to the token?

Does the metadata include a hash of the artwork? The title of the artwork?
I think they were paying too much just for the unique identity and ownership as what the wiki says.

"A non-fungible token (NFT) is a digital file whose unique identity and ownership is verified on a blockchain (a digital ledger). NFTs are not mutually interchangeable (not fungible). An NFT is created by uploading a file, such as a digital artwork, to an NFT auction market."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-fungible_token

I think this is too much for a small digital artwork compared to the famous ones and this is insanely expensive that almost took more money than those famous artworks. This looks like a hype thing again but whatever, it's their money their choice what they gonna do with it. lol

That doesn't explain anything.
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March 14, 2021, 03:35:06 AM
#37
I think only rich people spend their money to buy art at a very high price. Because rich people sometimes have excess money and are confused
about what to spend it on, they usually end up buying works of art at fantastic prices. Anyway the picture is not clear, even though I am curious
about the picture. To be honest I'm not someone who really understands art, so sometimes confused by many works of art that are valued
very expensive.
Buying this expensive NFT is extremely risky at all. If someone can afford this expensive price, the price is just very small for them, they can afford to lose it at all. They are willing to lose at all.
Recently about NFT trends, tweets also on Twitter can be now bought and sold. I am amazed by these NFT trends now.
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March 14, 2021, 03:16:09 AM
#36
I think only rich people spend their money to buy art at a very high price. Because rich people sometimes have excess money and are confused
about what to spend it on, they usually end up buying works of art at fantastic prices. Anyway the picture is not clear, even though I am curious
about the picture. To be honest I'm not someone who really understands art, so sometimes confused by many works of art that are valued
very expensive.
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March 14, 2021, 03:51:34 AM
#35
A digital piece by Beeple is selling for 69M USD according to The Japan Times, The Verge and other, at Christie's.

This follows a trend of increased prices for NFTs that are becoming an alternative asset of choice for the wealthy willing to invest in art with all the advantages of blockchain technology (easy to transfer, authenticity without doubt, proof of ownership,..)
I always had a problem to understand the mindset of these huge investors when you see piece of art and antiques being sold at auctions for millions of dollars and that too purchased by anonymous buyers, in the past i considered them as a recreational pass time for the ultra rich to satisfy their ego or either have a detail for looking after these epic pieces to preserve or people who made money through illegal means can spend this kind of money  Cheesy.

I have read about the Chinese government purchasing their antique arts kept for auctions for insane amounts and the once that are not sold were stolen from different museums around the world but i cannot understand why there is a huge demand for digital art .
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March 14, 2021, 03:22:54 AM
#34
I'll never understand this NFT craze. How can a file of a picture/collage cost millions of dollars?

I think it has more to do with the massive printing of money than with the value of the good itself. When so much money is printed and money is not circulating, which is what is happening today, a lot of that money ends up in speculative assets at crazy valuations.
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March 14, 2021, 03:14:51 AM
#33
I'll never understand this NFT craze. How can a file of a picture/collage cost millions of dollars?
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March 14, 2021, 01:27:25 AM
#32
What do you actually "own" here? Cuz it's not a digital image, which can be replicated infinitely and anyone can access or view. What you own is some signature in a blockchain and a bunch of people who agree that has some special properties that give it value. However, if you don't have property rights over the digital image, you don't own it. It's absurd people believe you could own something that is infinitely replicable.
NFTs have a unique signature in them so there isn't a possibility of replicating it. If you think that it is replicable then why don't you do it? I mean you have a strong adverb there to support your claim. Let's just accept the fact that it isn't our money and the art was worth that much, it's not our money so why do we have to feel regret about it? You think that it is absurd but here we are in a world where Jackson Pollock painting can fetch you millions, you don't understand how rich people think.
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March 14, 2021, 12:03:29 AM
#31
What do you actually "own" here? Cuz it's not a digital image, which can be replicated infinitely and anyone can access or view. What you own is some signature in a blockchain and a bunch of people who agree that has some special properties that give it value. However, if you don't have property rights over the digital image, you don't own it. It's absurd people believe you could own something that is infinitely replicable.
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March 13, 2021, 02:34:38 PM
#30
I wonder who are those guys spending that much of money for an art, this can be a good market for them and a lot of money to spend for.
There are some multi-millioniers that can spend up to any amount to get an art that is worthful. Art brings back unforgettable memories which could be only understood by who truly know the meaning of arts., Yes of course,
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March 13, 2021, 01:44:52 PM
#29
I have always said that these type of things reek money laundering by the highest levels, art is one of the most used things when we are talking about money laundering, you could be unsure how it is done but there is always a possibility that crypto is purchased with illegal money, and art could be bought with that, and then you could resell that art and get legit money, that happens in regular life, don't know if it happens in NFT at all but it looks quite possible.

I can easily say that art is not something you could calculate the price of, for some people this NFT could be 10 dollars, for some it is 69 million dollars, we all remember that banana taped to wall was something of a controversy because it was sold for 150k or something if I am not wrong, and we all know that banana taped to wall shouldn't worth that much, some guy took it and ate it lol, and that is why art pricing is always difficult for people outside of art world.
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March 13, 2021, 01:35:23 PM
#28
What exactly is the buyer getting?

The artwork is hundreds of megabytes. Is it linked in some way to the token?

Does the metadata include a hash of the artwork? The title of the artwork?
I think they were paying too much just for the unique identity and ownership as what the wiki says.

"A non-fungible token (NFT) is a digital file whose unique identity and ownership is verified on a blockchain (a digital ledger). NFTs are not mutually interchangeable (not fungible). An NFT is created by uploading a file, such as a digital artwork, to an NFT auction market."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-fungible_token

I think this is too much for a small digital artwork compared to the famous ones and this is insanely expensive that almost took more money than those famous artworks. This looks like a hype thing again but whatever, it's their money their choice what they gonna do with it. lol
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March 13, 2021, 01:21:50 PM
#27
It's a proved that crypto is future and crypto features is the most valued platform for talent. Like here has Investing, trading, yield farming / staking, DeFi & NFT all the features are most successful and most value-able still than any physical service what is legal for our country. Well we can say blockchain gives us a opportunity to take the best value for our talent. Just think if beeple was a job boy in a company how much he paid for his creative work maybe $1k-$5 per month. Or if he was a freelancer then how much he got maybe same. Bht in this platform gives him the best value for his talent. What gives him more inspiration to work more. And this also inspired a lot to others.
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March 13, 2021, 01:08:19 PM
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I'm not an art connoisseur or something but that art looks like it has been taken straight from Minecraft and has been pieced together to form its entirety..

But we're not here to critique the art. I'm not surprised that such pieces of work would fetch for insane amounts of money (if it is true). Apparently, this is an NFT, and for sure this will boost the attention and hype around such to greater heights after seeing this auction that has reached millions.

Have you guys heard about the properties turned into NFTs as well? Although there's no confirmation if there's any value or validity to it like a land title would. It's crazy because its like anything can be turned into a NFT now. I can imagine more celebrities jumping into this and take advantage to get profit.

Imagine Onlyfans image leaks becoming NFTs in the near future. I can see that coming, and oh boy almost every picture from famous people would be turned into NFTs.


lol yup. Jack Dorsey is doing the same by making his first tweet an NFT and auctioning it off. NFT's are a speculative bull market. You can attach "blockchain" to any "asset" and it'll increase in value based on the buzzword itself.
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March 13, 2021, 12:08:52 PM
#25
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Agree, especially when the Arts looks messy and not really good or worthy to buy.
I dont know what is the clear category NFT is, bcs a tweet can be considered as NFT too.
So is basically NFT is anything unique and precious for a someone?

It’s very subjective, but I believe most of NFT users are not collectors, but only a speculative traders.
NFT can be used to represent something, virtually. Digital, physical, or intangible item can be presented as an NFT. CMIIW.
http://Https://www.coindesk.com/how-to-create-buy-sell-nfts

How do you know they're not collectors, and how you classified someone as collectors?
As far as i know, collectors also sell and buy unique things. Yes true NFT can be anything, but i think there's need some rule to classified NFT.
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March 13, 2021, 11:02:37 AM
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Agree, especially when the Arts looks messy and not really good or worthy to buy.
I dont know what is the clear category NFT is, bcs a tweet can be considered as NFT too.
So is basically NFT is anything unique and precious for a someone?

It’s very subjective, but I believe most of NFT users are not collectors, but only a speculative traders.
NFT can be used to represent something, virtually. Digital, physical, or intangible item can be presented as an NFT. CMIIW.
http://Https://www.coindesk.com/how-to-create-buy-sell-nfts
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March 13, 2021, 08:28:26 AM
#23
the pic looks blurry so i open it in new tab but it was still unclear . i dont know what kind of art was that and why it was sold that high but i think that was normal for an nft because even others sells more weird things that arent consider to be an art anymore .

 i notice that most nft that are sold are expensive , this nft is not for us poor but thats okay because poor dont like to collect stuffs hehe
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March 13, 2021, 06:31:10 AM
#22
There is no price for art lovers and collectors who want to be the pride owners of such paintings and drawings.Some people pay too much for the artwork to get into limelight so that they are in news for paying such high prices for artwork and people believe it might be very interesting or beautiful price of work and they charge from people to exhibit such artworks.Non fungible Tokens or NFT's have become quite a famous for such artworks as they are digital ownership of such artworks and are unique of their type.Beeple sold a collage of 5000 artworks that he had made over past 13 years as single NFT and it was auctioned for $69 million making it most expensive painting sold in NFT.

Watch his reaction after becoming 3rd most valuable living artist

Note: "There is no price limit for art lovers and their collectables".
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March 13, 2021, 03:45:51 AM
#21
I wonder who are those guys spending that much of money for an art, this can be a good market for them and a lot of money to spend for.

NFT are growing, and It think this year will be the best year for them, so congrats to all the early supporters of NFT and for sure its not too late to join with them. Working with some arts now, let’s see if its worth to try.
You don't have to wonder who it is, it is definitely someone who is filthy rich that they don't know what to do with the excess money that they have so they spend it on art, we can't understand what is going through their mind but we have to consider that this arts are valuable tool that they can use for tax write offs if they want to by donating it. Hopefully your art will become the next big thing in the NFT industry.
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March 13, 2021, 01:52:35 AM
#20
This is another effect of massive money printing by central banks. The money that is printed does little to move the day-to-day economy. Little cash flows, and most of it ends up in speculative assets. Some of these assets make more sense, such as shares of solid companies, or Bitcoin, which is proving to be the best store of value in the world, but these types of assets are very much pure speculation.

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March 12, 2021, 09:18:46 PM
#19
And later on, they will not be this expensive to buy.
It will just be an ordinary item to buy. Right now, they are spending millions of dollars just to get a hold of this digital art.
Wonder if the value of this will also grow thru time just like the physical art pieces.
And this type of collection, only those elites can afford.
Regular users cant afford such expensive digital art.
More than likely, there will be more rising digital artists in the next coming years.
It can be seen as a short-term trend and we will again see an exaggeration of its potential for real life like defi. But I am not a rigid person with the view that it has no value, if more positive thinking it attracts more people to the market, and this is good for all of us who do not know this is the case diversity in the crypto space is a mess.
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March 12, 2021, 06:27:29 PM
#18
What exactly is the buyer getting?

The artwork is hundreds of megabytes. Is it linked in some way to the token?

Does the metadata include a hash of the artwork? The title of the artwork?
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March 12, 2021, 05:53:36 PM
#17
I can't really see any valuable technology or its application. In this case I just see it as a way to show off what blockchain can do to solve various problems. Additionally, these projects stand out because their users don't have to interact with the underlying blockchain technology, but can still benefit greatly from this technology, making projects ripe for adoption official. Ultimately, the NFT opens the door capable of digitizing all intellectual property rights and encrypting all assets.

And later on, they will not be this expensive to buy.
It will just be an ordinary item to buy. Right now, they are spending millions of dollars just to get a hold of this digital art.
Wonder if the value of this will also grow thru time just like the physical art pieces.
And this type of collection, only those elites can afford.
Regular users cant afford such expensive digital art.
More than likely, there will be more rising digital artists in the next coming years.
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March 12, 2021, 05:43:50 PM
#16
I can't really see any valuable technology or its application. In this case I just see it as a way to show off what blockchain can do to solve various problems. Additionally, these projects stand out because their users don't have to interact with the underlying blockchain technology, but can still benefit greatly from this technology, making projects ripe for adoption official. Ultimately, the NFT opens the door capable of digitizing all intellectual property rights and encrypting all assets.
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March 12, 2021, 05:17:44 PM
#15
I went through few marketplace after seeing this sudden NFT hype. Damn I was surprised. I saw digital arts being auctioned and people bidding insane amount. Even saw the Nyan cat auction. Sold for 300 ETH. The same guys is still selling "memes" and people are actually buying it! Even tweets are being sold. This whole things sounds really overwhelming.
Didn't expect digital contents to be sold at this shocking rates. Who knows how long is thing trend going to last. If the hype ends, I wonder what those people are going to do who were expecting to sell their contents at higher rate.
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March 12, 2021, 05:13:43 PM
#14
This is like selling stars, you get a certificate and all and someone earns money for nothing.

If anyone is interested in buying my first post on Bitcointalk, bidding starts at 100 Bitcoin.
NFT is like the 'prestige' trend of collectors IMO...
Buying the first artwork, the first tweet, or anything related to the 'limited edition' is a matter of pride for the collectors and this is what happened to the NFT CMIIW.
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March 12, 2021, 04:56:11 PM
#13
This is like selling stars, you get a certificate and all and someone earns money for nothing.

If anyone is interested in buying my first post on Bitcointalk, bidding starts at 100 Bitcoin.
Its hard to understand the reason behind this one but it looks like NFT are getting more serious, and doing such big profit over the past months.

If you have a unique art, weird post history, or anything that you think can make money for you then I guess you can sell it online and make it as your NFT entry, you might be one of those lucky artist to become a millionaire instantly.
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March 12, 2021, 03:38:53 PM
#12
I get the value of blockchain and crypto, but I don't get the value of NFT's.
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March 12, 2021, 03:33:46 PM
#11
This is like selling stars, you get a certificate and all and someone earns money for nothing.

If anyone is interested in buying my first post on Bitcointalk, bidding starts at 100 Bitcoin.
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March 12, 2021, 03:27:06 PM
#10
It is definitely the time of NFT mania. The artist who managed to sell in an online auction for $ 69.3 million with fees a digital art transformed into an NFT called Everydays - The First 5000 Days ”. It is nothing more than a collage of photos published since 2007, a JPG file made by Mike Winkelmann, the digital artist known as Beeple.

It's amazing how much people can bidding a work of art. It is worth noting that this job started bid at $ 100.
I was already surprised by the staggering price of the sale.
 
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The artist, who has collaborated with Luis Vuitton and pop stars like Justin Bieber and Katy Perry, uses software to create an irreverent visual commentary on 21st century life.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/11/arts/design/nft-auction-christies-beeple.html
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March 12, 2021, 02:26:24 PM
#9
currently interested in NFT, but this news is too far away from what I've expected. No, I've never undervalued arts.
but, every time I read about NFT that being sold for an expensive price, I always think that it could be a money-laundering activity.
or it was just a market manipulation. I mean, I can ask someone to buy my NFT with my own money. I just need that people's claim, and voila, I gain credibility as an expensive NFT creator.

Agree, especially when the Arts looks messy and not really good or worthy to buy.
I dont know what is the clear category NFT is, bcs a tweet can be considered as NFT too.
So is basically NFT is anything unique and precious for a someone?
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March 12, 2021, 12:34:48 PM
#8
currently interested in NFT, but this news is too far away from what I've expected. No, I've never undervalued arts.
but, every time I read about NFT that being sold for an expensive price, I always think that it could be a money-laundering activity.
or it was just a market manipulation. I mean, I can ask someone to buy my NFT with my own money. I just need that people's claim, and voila, I gain credibility as an expensive NFT creator.
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March 12, 2021, 11:36:22 AM
#7
I'm not an art connoisseur or something but that art looks like it has been taken straight from Minecraft and has been pieced together to form its entirety..

But we're not here to critique the art. I'm not surprised that such pieces of work would fetch for insane amounts of money (if it is true). Apparently, this is an NFT, and for sure this will boost the attention and hype around such to greater heights after seeing this auction that has reached millions.

Have you guys heard about the properties turned into NFTs as well? Although there's no confirmation if there's any value or validity to it like a land title would. It's crazy because its like anything can be turned into a NFT now. I can imagine more celebrities jumping into this and take advantage to get profit.

Imagine Onlyfans image leaks becoming NFTs in the near future. I can see that coming, and oh boy almost every picture from famous people would be turned into NFTs.
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March 12, 2021, 10:33:23 AM
#6
You'd be surprised at how much people spend on art, much less for digital ones. NFT hype pretty crazy right now. I wonder how long this will last? If I had artistic skills, I'd likely want to turn it into an NFT as well.

Have you guys heard about the properties turned into NFTs as well? Although there's no confirmation if there's any value or validity to it like a land title would. It's crazy because its like anything can be turned into a NFT now. I can imagine more celebrities jumping into this and take advantage to get profit.
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March 12, 2021, 10:32:04 AM
#5
I wonder who are those guys spending that much of money for an art, this can be a good market for them and a lot of money to spend for.
The guys from Arab spend so much on art, drawing, sculptures, the second most costly bought art piece was rumoured to be bought by an Arabian.
But I haven't heard of NFT uptill now, and crypto-art is also new to me, but with quick research I have understood asomething about it, I think artist would like to go digital seeing this market surge, and piracy rate may be lower.
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March 12, 2021, 10:26:43 AM
#4
I wonder who are those guys spending that much of money for an art, this can be a good market for them and a lot of money to spend for.

NFT are growing, and It think this year will be the best year for them, so congrats to all the early supporters of NFT and for sure its not too late to join with them. Working with some arts now, let’s see if its worth to try.

that is what is called art, where you can spend money just for a work, for an artist it is a very extraordinary award, so it's no wonder that a work that has such digital meaning is being hunted and paid a fantastic price.

It is true, that this year NFT is very special for investors, perhaps because of the very updated developments in terms of technology.
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March 12, 2021, 09:28:28 AM
#3
I wonder who are those guys spending that much of money for an art, this can be a good market for them and a lot of money to spend for.

NFT are growing, and It think this year will be the best year for them, so congrats to all the early supporters of NFT and for sure its not too late to join with them. Working with some arts now, let’s see if its worth to try.
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March 12, 2021, 08:41:56 AM
#2
I'm skeptical as to whether this news is real.  

If anyone remembers the "buy, buy, buy!" and "sell, sell, sell!" host of Cramer's Mad Money.

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Admission of market manipulation

In a December 2006 interview, Cramer described activities used by hedge fund managers to manipulate stock prices—some of debatable legality and others illegal. He described how he could push stocks higher or lower with as little as $5 million in capital when he was running his hedge fund. Cramer said, "A lot of times when I was short at my hedge fund ... When I was positioned short—meaning I needed it down—I would create a level of activity beforehand that could drive the futures." He also encouraged hedge funds to engage in this type of activity because it is "a very quick way to make money."[33]

Cramer stated that everything he did was legal, but that illegal activity is common in the hedge fund industry as well. He also stated that some hedge fund managers spread false rumors to drive a stock down: "What's important when you are in that hedge-fund mode is to not do anything remotely truthful because the truth is so against your view, that it's important to create a new truth, to develop a fiction."[34] Cramer described a variety of tactics that hedge fund managers use to affect a stock's price. Cramer said that one strategy to keep a stock price down is to spread false rumors to reporters he described as "the Pisanis of the world," in reference to CNBC correspondent Bob Pisani, who Cramer insinuated was able to be manipulated, saying "You have to use these guys." He also discussed giving information to "the bozo reporter from The Wall Street Journal" to get an article published.[35][36] Cramer said this practice, although illegal, is easy to do "because the SEC doesn't understand it."[37] During the interview Cramer referred to himself as a "banking-class hero."[38]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Cramer#Admission_of_market_manipulation


Markets have always been influenced by traders and hedge fund managers spreading false rumors to reporters(bolded above).

I wouldn't be surprised to learn million dollar purchases of NFTs were rumors accidentally reported as legitimate news. In an effort to manipulate markets and create a bubble (with profiteering opportunities) in crypto related assets.

Does anyone remember bitfinex/tether (USDT) accusations from 2017 where it was claimed stablecoins were utilized to fraudulently manipulate crypto markets, pushing bitcoin to ATHs? False rumors are published as real news sometimes, mistakes are made. It could be more common than we realize.
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March 12, 2021, 07:23:02 AM
#1
A digital piece by Beeple is selling for 69M USD according to The Japan Times, The Verge and other, at Christie's.

This follows a trend of increased prices for NFTs that are becoming an alternative asset of choice for the wealthy willing to invest in art with all the advantages of blockchain technology (easy to transfer, authenticity without doubt, proof of ownership,..)

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The record-smashing NFT sale comes after months of increasingly valuable auctions. In October, Winkelmann sold his first series of NFTs, with a pair going for $66,666.66 each. In December, he sold a series of works for $3.5 million total. And last month, one of the NFTs that originally sold for $66,666.66 was resold for $6.6 million.

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