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Quote from: TheGreatPython on September 16, 2022, 04:22:03 PM

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if anyone want to take VIP support for trading then it will much costly for him/her . I don't think one should be able to spend more money when starting training because when someone starts training they don't have enough money to manage a VIP group. So one must have basic knowledge about token analysis to start trading otherwise he cannot succeed in trading.

The thing that makes these futile is the fact that you could literally spend that money to buy bitcoin and hold it for 10 years and you would be profiting anyway. I am not saying that there aren't any good ones, maybe there are a few, but why risk your money to get a few good places, and maybe end up with one of the thousands of horrible ones, when you could simply just end up with something that is terrible.

This is why it is much better to keep your money in bitcoin for 10 years because that in return will be a good amount of money and we know it, there isn't a question mark about that, not even some altcoin, I mean literally bitcoin itself and I am sure we all believe it will go up a lot.

It is true that if bitcoin is hold for long time then it will definitely give a good profit and as you say if money is invested in bitcoin now and it is hold for 10 years then surely there will be a big profit which we Previously seen in the history of Bitcoin. But few people have the patience to keep a coin for 10 years so it will be a big challenge for everyone. it is not very easy task

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

If you'll find any, most likely they are going to ask you money before you could join and have signals everyday that there's no guarantee you'll get profits. If you get unlucky, you could lose a lot of money with their signals and ended up having nothing, which is more frustrating because you lost your money using someone's decision.

Instead of looking for groups like that, there's a lot of tutorial on YouTube, just to have a basic knowledge about trading, and the rest is up to you to figure out.

The both possibilities are bad, and you will end up losing your money one way or another. Signals are basically the way people check indicators and tell you what a crypto "should" do, doesn't mean that it will do what it should, more often than not there are many coins which does what it shouldn't and go to opposite way.

This is why I am not expecting them to really have a difference, it will probably be a group that tries to make their money not via trading but more from the customers that come along the way. Anyone who charges you for indicators will know that it is not a guaranteed income and customers are a better way to make money from since it's steady method.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

Not another “best trading signal group” question? This has been asked many times in the forum.

I have already seen many newbie accounts who are asking the same question but just rephrase or reword them to make them look “unique”.

There are a bunch of newbie accounts I have seen where their very first posts are all about the best trading signal group or so rather than being a natural member and introducing themselves to the community.

I am kinda suspicious of their true intentions here asking the same (but rephrased or reworded) questions like this. They just don’t really care at all and lazy to use the search box if these kinds of questions are already been asked and answered before.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

If you'll find any, most likely they are going to ask you money before you could join and have signals everyday that there's no guarantee you'll get profits. If you get unlucky, you could lose a lot of money with their signals and ended up having nothing, which is more frustrating because you lost your money using someone's decision.

Instead of looking for groups like that, there's a lot of tutorial on YouTube, just to have a basic knowledge about trading, and the rest is up to you to figure out.

All of them are scams i would say on every group that ask out for some fees before you can join and just been said above that if its free then its good since you could really have at least share up some ideas or get from others which would might be helpful into your analysis thats why its up to you whether it is really that needed to join up with these groups or would totally be that
independent on your own and make out trading decisions which would really be not relying on others tips and suggestions.Its true that it is better to lose money
with your own ways or method rather than on following someone.

Definitely 100% scam, if they can analyze and give such accurate signals, I think they won't need to spend time creating groups and losing time calling people to join to collect money, they called the participation fee. People with such good trading and analytical skills will usually stay anonymous and focus on making profits because the returns will be much higher than the proceeds from others.

I would rather lose money from transactions I made than give money to others to use. In both of these cases, I lost money, but trading by myself, I will summarize and accumulate knowledge and experience for myself, from there I can improve my earning ability rather than following others.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

You can join some of the discussions group that was directly managed by reputable exchanges e.g Binance, Kucoin, etc. You can see real traders there.

If you are looking for a group that provides signals is the main subject, those groups are mostly not legit. It's still better to just joined trading groups that are discussing the trend and news, not the specific signals where the purpose is to lure people to subscriptions.

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These trader groups should only be used by those who do not require them, making them useless groups as well. If I knew how to trade and understood exactly what you were suggesting and the reasoning behind it, I would be able to come to the same conclusion on my own. Open them up and have a look at what they are doing if you wish, but it is not a game-changing invention to join one and start earning money right now because of them.

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By joining such signal groups there is no guarantee. I joined a premium group three years ago and started trading there by watching the signals. But I could not be satisfied. Since then I started avoiding trading signals. I believe those who can analyze a project they can do well in trading. Over all to get prosperity acquiring proper knowledge is much needed in trading business.

Exactly, no guarantee, the risk is still high enough. Joining signal group, moreover, the free one means that we actually not ready with our own knowledge to trade in the crypto industry. This means that we should learn at first, read much more information, learn to increase our knowledge about crypto especially trading, and learn how to manage ourselves, our money, our emotion, and aslo time management. Trading is complex activity. If we only lay trading result based on the signal from certain groups, this is still evry risky,moroever if we actually don;t kow what should do with the signal. Non sense.

signal group can only be used for beginners who want to learn, we learn how he trades placing stop losses and targets, of course with the analysis they use. but after we know the basics of trading, then the next step is to develop ourselves to be able to trade and find a trading style that suits us, because after all the best thing is self-development in trading, profit and loss, sadly difficult, we must be able to control it ourselves to get our own goal

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Quote from: coinerer on September 15, 2022, 12:02:50 PM

By joining such signal groups there is no guarantee. I joined a premium group three years ago and started trading there by watching the signals. But I could not be satisfied. Since then I started avoiding trading signals. I believe those who can analyze a project they can do well in trading. Over all to get prosperity acquiring proper knowledge is much needed in trading business.

Exactly, no guarantee, the risk is still high enough. Joining signal group, moreover, the free one means that we actually not ready with our own knowledge to trade in the crypto industry. This means that we should learn at first, read much more information, learn to increase our knowledge about crypto especially trading, and learn how to manage ourselves, our money, our emotion, and aslo time management. Trading is complex activity. If we only lay trading result based on the signal from certain groups, this is still evry risky,moroever if we actually don;t kow what should do with the signal. Non sense.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on September 16, 2022, 03:57:34 AM

Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

If you'll find any, most likely they are going to ask you money before you could join and have signals everyday that there's no guarantee you'll get profits. If you get unlucky, you could lose a lot of money with their signals and ended up having nothing, which is more frustrating because you lost your money using someone's decision.

Instead of looking for groups like that, there's a lot of tutorial on YouTube, just to have a basic knowledge about trading, and the rest is up to you to figure out.

All of them are scams i would say on every group that ask out for some fees before you can join and just been said above that if its free then its good since you could really have at least share up some ideas or get from others which would might be helpful into your analysis thats why its up to you whether it is really that needed to join up with these groups or would totally be that
independent on your own and make out trading decisions which would really be not relying on others tips and suggestions.Its true that it is better to lose money
with your own ways or method rather than on following someone.

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if anyone want to take VIP support for trading then it will much costly for him/her . I don't think one should be able to spend more money when starting training because when someone starts training they don't have enough money to manage a VIP group. So one must have basic knowledge about token analysis to start trading otherwise he cannot succeed in trading.

The thing that makes these futile is the fact that you could literally spend that money to buy bitcoin and hold it for 10 years and you would be profiting anyway. I am not saying that there aren't any good ones, maybe there are a few, but why risk your money to get a few good places, and maybe end up with one of the thousands of horrible ones, when you could simply just end up with something that is terrible.

This is why it is much better to keep your money in bitcoin for 10 years because that in return will be a good amount of money and we know it, there isn't a question mark about that, not even some altcoin, I mean literally bitcoin itself and I am sure we all believe it will go up a lot.

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Quote from: ultrloa on September 13, 2022, 08:13:57 AM

People who's been feed by false hope avail this because they think that those people give some signals is angels sent from heaven to them and they ignore the fact that in reality if those people are really always having a good day on trading they will not waste their time to any other else like creating groups and give there signals. Newbie should know there agenda since for sure they are aftering the money paid by them and other people, if they see something like this its a big red flag already since asking for payments means that they didn't make good profits for their trades and they find another way just to earn.

Unfortunately, that type of convincing yourself can't be broken by other people. If they believe that there are good people out there who are willing to help them then they will keep on believing that they are good people, not because someone else convinced them because if it was like that then one person convincing them that it is a good idea, could be turned by another person saying it is a bad idea.

But, when you convince yourself that they are good people thenthere isn't a situation where someone else could turn that idea, only the fact that they could make you lose money could make you realize it. When they do make you lose money then you would know what you are doing.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

If you'll find any, most likely they are going to ask you money before you could join and have signals everyday that there's no guarantee you'll get profits. If you get unlucky, you could lose a lot of money with their signals and ended up having nothing, which is more frustrating because you lost your money using someone's decision.

Instead of looking for groups like that, there's a lot of tutorial on YouTube, just to have a basic knowledge about trading, and the rest is up to you to figure out.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on September 15, 2022, 10:30:30 PM

there is nothing wrong from losing when we are beginners because this will add experiences to what we did wrong and use it to not happening again , and also those chances are way to improve our attitude and mindset in market like this in which very volatile.
there are some of us who have lose many times before starting to earn and I am one of those. so expect losses but also learn from it.

And the sad reality is that we first suffered losses, and commits mistakes before we realized our wrongdoings. Though we don't want this to happen, unfortunately, we can't also escape this from happening to us. Just like it happen to you, I have had several losses as well in my trading life which sometimes put me down and even think about quitting, however, I realize that there are no sweet rewards if we don't suffer difficulties. Facing these things makes us think wisely and make us stronger to accept what are the results even if it was not what we wanted to happen.

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Quote from: milewilda on September 14, 2022, 05:18:48 PM

Rather than making yourself to spent out lots of dollars for just those VIP account or access on certain groups, it would be more sensible if you do make use of those amounts for your trading capital.

That is exactly what I regret is and what I think right now. I spent around $100 to join VIP trading signal, but in fact, I only used this for about less than 3 months only and then I stopped trading in the Future market. Because I couldn't get what I expect. Why? Because actually I really couldn't learn much from the signal, I only got the signal that was given by the administrator, but I didn't know how to analyze the signal, how to implement it actually to make or optimize the signal and position. This makes me also lost much Grin

That is why rathetr than earnig, it is better to learn at first, the way to be a future trader because that is complex, difficult, and also high risk. But if we can't, better to stay away from future trading.

Just being said, the signal groups have nothing to do with us and are even hard to understand especially if we are new to trading. If we are aiming to learn who to trade with, joining these groups is not a good idea, we'd rather spend $100, do trading by ourselves, and learn from it. Because what does these signal groups to us only ask for money without thinking if we are able to get what really we wanted to happen, and I don't think that was their concern as well. And in the end, we are just a losser.

New people who want to trade should first get good experience and then trade. First of all, if someone wants to trade with a snap decision, he will lose first. For this the first thing he needs to do is trade with advice from good experienced people here I don't think he will ever lose. So he must first have a good understanding of the cryptocurrency market. After that he has to trade otherwise he will face many problems.

there is nothing wrong from losing when we are beginners because this will add experiences to what we did wrong and use it to not happening again , and also those chances are way to improve our attitude and mindset in market like this in which very volatile.
there are some of us who have lose many times before starting to earn and I am one of those. so expect losses but also learn from it.

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It is quite odd why more people cannot see the incongruence of those groups because that is not the only one that exist, another one is why any trader that knows what is the market about to do would bother giving free or paid signals instead of trading those signals by himself? After all if the owners of those groups could do half of what they say they can do they could become millionaires given enough time, this means that in reality they cannot do what they say they can and instead they are just trying to deceive the people that listen to them.

People who's been feed by false hope avail this because they think that those people give some signals is angels sent from heaven to them and they ignore the fact that in reality if those people are really always having a good day on trading they will not waste their time to any other else like creating groups and give there signals. Newbie should know there agenda since for sure they are aftering the money paid by them and other people, if they see something like this its a big red flag already since asking for payments means that they didn't make good profits for their trades and they find another way just to earn.

That is probably what they think but people need to use their common sense more often or they are going to be scammed over and over again in this market, they need to ask themselves what will they do if they had the skill to trade the markets and make money at will? Do they really think that they will spend their time trying to convince people to follow their advice for free or for a small sum of money or will they spend their time looking at the charts all the time so they do not lose a single trading opportunity? And it is obvious they will choose the second option instead of the first one.

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Quote from: milewilda on September 14, 2022, 05:18:48 PM

Rather than making yourself to spent out lots of dollars for just those VIP account or access on certain groups, it would be more sensible if you do make use of those amounts for your trading capital.

That is exactly what I regret is and what I think right now. I spent around $100 to join VIP trading signal, but in fact, I only used this for about less than 3 months only and then I stopped trading in the Future market. Because I couldn't get what I expect. Why? Because actually I really couldn't learn much from the signal, I only got the signal that was given by the administrator, but I didn't know how to analyze the signal, how to implement it actually to make or optimize the signal and position. This makes me also lost much Grin

That is why rathetr than earnig, it is better to learn at first, the way to be a future trader because that is complex, difficult, and also high risk. But if we can't, better to stay away from future trading.

Just being said, the signal groups have nothing to do with us and are even hard to understand especially if we are new to trading. If we are aiming to learn who to trade with, joining these groups is not a good idea, we'd rather spend $100, do trading by ourselves, and learn from it. Because what does these signal groups to us only ask for money without thinking if we are able to get what really we wanted to happen, and I don't think that was their concern as well. And in the end, we are just a losser.

New people who want to trade should first get good experience and then trade. First of all, if someone wants to trade with a snap decision, he will lose first. For this the first thing he needs to do is trade with advice from good experienced people here I don't think he will ever lose. So he must first have a good understanding of the cryptocurrency market. After that he has to trade otherwise he will face many problems.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on September 12, 2022, 05:41:25 PM

Exactly, trading signal will not able to help much moreover if we actually don't have any good knowledge about the cryptocurrency, trading and also moreover trading in the Future market, including how to analyze the charts and candles of every token or coin.

if anyone want to take VIP support for trading then it will much costly for him/her . I don't think one should be able to spend more money when starting training because when someone starts training they don't have enough money to manage a VIP group. So one must have basic knowledge about token analysis to start trading otherwise he cannot succeed in trading.

That is a personal choice, but from my own experience, joining a VIP trading signal doesnt mean that we will earn the profits much, or even the trading signals will work, no, exactly not.
Moreover if we use them without any basic or further skills and ability about trading, moreover Future trading, this will not be efective. Trading signal is only as a support to be sued for consideration, not for the only one to use the signal to trade.
That is why eprsonally I prefer to stop using it and leave Future trading because that was very not suitable for me. And for those who are new, it is better not only to use trading signal,moroever the free one.

By joining such signal groups there is no guarantee. I joined a premium group three years ago and started trading there by watching the signals. But I could not be satisfied. Since then I started avoiding trading signals. I believe those who can analyze a project they can do well in trading. Over all to get prosperity acquiring proper knowledge is much needed in trading business.

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Quote from: Awwal08 on September 15, 2022, 11:14:41 AM

Thanks for the info, I'm very glad to see a group to join, I really lose a lot of money. This will bring the ending of losing money, I will now trade with caution.

Trading groups it's cool, but don't forget about money management. This is the main reason why 90% of traders lose their deposits.

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Quote from: Maus0728 on September 04, 2022, 05:53:32 AM

I have joined 2 discord group of crypto traders led by @Mindset_BTC and @bloodgoodBTC -- that's their Twitter handle. You can chat or ask questions from there but it isn't a community that's frequently active who will gave signals for you to follow. They also have trading resources just to get your feet wet.

Or...you can just hop in to the Speculation[1] or Trading Discussion[2] board here in this forum.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=57.0
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=8.0

Thanks for the info, I'm very glad to see a group to join, I really lose a lot of money. This will bring the ending of losing money, I will now trade with caution.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on September 12, 2022, 05:41:25 PM

Exactly, trading signal will not able to help much moreover if we actually don't have any good knowledge about the cryptocurrency, trading and also moreover trading in the Future market, including how to analyze the charts and candles of every token or coin.

if anyone want to take VIP support for trading then it will much costly for him/her . I don't think one should be able to spend more money when starting training because when someone starts training they don't have enough money to manage a VIP group. So one must have basic knowledge about token analysis to start trading otherwise he cannot succeed in trading.

That is a personal choice, but from my own experience, joining a VIP trading signal doesnt mean that we will earn the profits much, or even the trading signals will work, no, exactly not.
Moreover if we use them without any basic or further skills and ability about trading, moreover Future trading, this will not be efective. Trading signal is only as a support to be sued for consideration, not for the only one to use the signal to trade.
That is why eprsonally I prefer to stop using it and leave Future trading because that was very not suitable for me. And for those who are new, it is better not only to use trading signal,moroever the free one.

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Quote from: milewilda on September 14, 2022, 05:18:48 PM

Rather than making yourself to spent out lots of dollars for just those VIP account or access on certain groups, it would be more sensible if you do make use of those amounts for your trading capital.

That is exactly what I regret is and what I think right now. I spent around $100 to join VIP trading signal, but in fact, I only used this for about less than 3 months only and then I stopped trading in the Future market. Because I couldn't get what I expect. Why? Because actually I really couldn't learn much from the signal, I only got the signal that was given by the administrator, but I didn't know how to analyze the signal, how to implement it actually to make or optimize the signal and position. This makes me also lost much Grin

That is why rathetr than earnig, it is better to learn at first, the way to be a future trader because that is complex, difficult, and also high risk. But if we can't, better to stay away from future trading.

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A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.

Exactly, trading signal will not able to help much moreover if we actually don't have any good knowledge about the cryptocurrency, trading and also moreover trading in the Future market, including how to analyze the charts and candles of every token or coin.
We cannot deny that sometimes, we may use certain trading signal moreover from VIP group, however, in fact, not all signal will work as what they have done Because sometimes, they have tried the signal at first and when we are treated in the position, the market may be changing. That is why the signal may be not effective. I have ever joined a VIP trading signal group, in fact, the administrator also said that no every signal will work effectively 100%, and there will be always risks to the signal. SO, be wise with the trading margin and position.

if anyone want to take VIP support for trading then it will much costly for him/her . I don't think one should be able to spend more money when starting training because when someone starts training they don't have enough money to manage a VIP group. So one must have basic knowledge about token analysis to start trading otherwise he cannot succeed in trading.

Rather than making yourself to spent out lots of dollars for just those VIP account or access on certain groups, it would be more sensible if you do make use of those amounts for your trading capital.
Nothing beats out when you do learn up from yourself on the things which you are the ones who could benefit out rather than making yourself believe to follow into those so called groups which are
actually not really give out any difference.Cant really deny that they do really have some help in terms of analysis been given but those arent just precise nor accurate but rather pure speculations
been made.You are just simply wasting off money on paying up into those sub fees which arent really that helpful at all.

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Quote from: junkerr on September 12, 2022, 07:39:29 AM

You are right. currently, many trading groups only provide information on the assets that can be purchased and forecast growth targets only. even what is given is not necessarily successful.
most such groups share for trading futures on the exchange.
not many provide knowledge and direction regarding the use of the simplest tools and methods of analysis that a beginner can do.

from my perspective it's good for somebody to study the elementary things of trading before venturing into it. because i have notice that while some people experience lose in trading is because of lack of understanding and lack of inquiring over trading, because trading have a strategic method use in trading and without understanding it in such way, you will not excell via trading. You are not far from the truth base on your suggestion.

Trading is not easy and it is really very complex that both knowledge and skills are important things for traders to have,
continue to learn to understand trading and that is of course to support ourselves in trading,
we need to think about the future

trading experience is needed to shape our trading personality, by continuing to practice and pay attention to each of our transactions, then we will know our shortcomings and can improve them. if this is done continuously then later we will become experienced traders and can understand market movements. so in learning trading there is no surrender, we must be ready to be swayed by the market until we can understand it

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Quote from: monineklutak on September 14, 2022, 03:33:46 AM

Quote from: GeorgeJohn on September 12, 2022, 03:37:20 PM

Quote from: junkerr on September 12, 2022, 07:39:29 AM

You are right. currently, many trading groups only provide information on the assets that can be purchased and forecast growth targets only. even what is given is not necessarily successful.
most such groups share for trading futures on the exchange.
not many provide knowledge and direction regarding the use of the simplest tools and methods of analysis that a beginner can do.

from my perspective it's good for somebody to study the elementary things of trading before venturing into it. because i have notice that while some people experience lose in trading is because of lack of understanding and lack of inquiring over trading, because trading have a strategic method use in trading and without understanding it in such way, you will not excell via trading. You are not far from the truth base on your suggestion.

Trading is not easy and it is really very complex that both knowledge and skills are important things for traders to have,
continue to learn to understand trading and that is of course to support ourselves in trading,
we need to think about the future

As you said, trading is not easy, so we have to learn how to trade properly. Don't look for shortcuts when trading, it will only result in losses
in the end. I see people who trade relying on the signals given in trading groups are just lazy people to learn how to analyze the market.
Even though the signals given by trading groups only benefit the group owner.

Of all the trading groups that I have participated in, it is rare that they provide education for their members, most trading groups only give signals
to their members, to buy certain coins at their recommended prices. Even though the fact is that after we buy the coins, the coins will suddenly
dump, because we are only used by the group owner for his personal gain. Even paid trading groups are the same, will not make us successful traders.
My advice is to avoid joining trading groups that only provide trading signals, just focus on learning how to do research and analysis. It would be
much better if we take a trading course, it will teach how to become a successful trader.

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You are right. currently, many trading groups only provide information on the assets that can be purchased and forecast growth targets only. even what is given is not necessarily successful.
most such groups share for trading futures on the exchange.
not many provide knowledge and direction regarding the use of the simplest tools and methods of analysis that a beginner can do.

from my perspective it's good for somebody to study the elementary things of trading before venturing into it. because i have notice that while some people experience lose in trading is because of lack of understanding and lack of inquiring over trading, because trading have a strategic method use in trading and without understanding it in such way, you will not excell via trading. You are not far from the truth base on your suggestion.

Trading is not easy and it is really very complex that both knowledge and skills are important things for traders to have,
continue to learn to understand trading and that is of course to support ourselves in trading,
we need to think about the future

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on September 12, 2022, 03:37:20 PM

from my perspective it's good for somebody to study the elementary things of trading before venturing into it.

The basics should cover the fact that scammers run rampant and that paid groups or non-paid groups giving out free picks are actually scams run by such people. In fact the amount of money such scams generate is enough to give the impulse to these scammers to keep running and launching more such groups.

Therefore such groups should be completely avoided, specially those being cold -PMed on telegram or so.

If someone wants to make money from the market, they can't have a get-rich-quick mindset, they will lose money to scammers.

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I agree with everyone that if you have no idea whats going on and just follow then you are going to end up with a good big loss. You should be aware of what you are doing which means you are already a trader yourself and you do not need them.

The only people who should be using these trader groups are the people who do not need them hence it makes them useless groups as well, if I know how to trade and know exactly what you are suggesting and why you are suggesting it then I would be able to figure that out myself as well. Sure open them up and see what they are doing just in case if you want, but it is not a make or break type of innovation to join one and suddenly start making money thanks to them.

It is quite odd why more people cannot see the incongruence of those groups because that is not the only one that exist, another one is why any trader that knows what is the market about to do would bother giving free or paid signals instead of trading those signals by himself? After all if the owners of those groups could do half of what they say they can do they could become millionaires given enough time, this means that in reality they cannot do what they say they can and instead they are just trying to deceive the people that listen to them.

People who's been feed by false hope avail this because they think that those people give some signals is angels sent from heaven to them and they ignore the fact that in reality if those people are really always having a good day on trading they will not waste their time to any other else like creating groups and give there signals. Newbie should know there agenda since for sure they are aftering the money paid by them and other people, if they see something like this its a big red flag already since asking for payments means that they didn't make good profits for their trades and they find another way just to earn.

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Like everyone had said, it's just a waste of time to be in the day trader/signal groups. Paid or not. Better spend your time learning how the market works, open a trial account, trade and learn the basics from there. Or learn about the technical terms, and situational for crypto in general.

Cause information/tips/signals from any trader group are unreliable and have to be seen from a cynical point of view. No one going to give out free lunch. This brings you back to your situation: if you're a newbie, knowing that you knew nothing about the market and how it works and had to rely on those groups then you're completely under their thumb, under their manipulation. See how many risks you put yourself in?

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Quote from: redsun114 on September 12, 2022, 08:28:45 PM

I agree with everyone that if you have no idea whats going on and just follow then you are going to end up with a good big loss. You should be aware of what you are doing which means you are already a trader yourself and you do not need them.

The only people who should be using these trader groups are the people who do not need them hence it makes them useless groups as well, if I know how to trade and know exactly what you are suggesting and why you are suggesting it then I would be able to figure that out myself as well. Sure open them up and see what they are doing just in case if you want, but it is not a make or break type of innovation to join one and suddenly start making money thanks to them.

It is quite odd why more people cannot see the incongruence of those groups because that is not the only one that exist, another one is why any trader that knows what is the market about to do would bother giving free or paid signals instead of trading those signals by himself? After all if the owners of those groups could do half of what they say they can do they could become millionaires given enough time, this means that in reality they cannot do what they say they can and instead they are just trying to deceive the people that listen to them.

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I agree with everyone that if you have no idea whats going on and just follow then you are going to end up with a good big loss. You should be aware of what you are doing which means you are already a trader yourself and you do not need them.

The only people who should be using these trader groups are the people who do not need them hence it makes them useless groups as well, if I know how to trade and know exactly what you are suggesting and why you are suggesting it then I would be able to figure that out myself as well. Sure open them up and see what they are doing just in case if you want, but it is not a make or break type of innovation to join one and suddenly start making money thanks to them.

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A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.

Exactly, trading signal will not able to help much moreover if we actually don't have any good knowledge about the cryptocurrency, trading and also moreover trading in the Future market, including how to analyze the charts and candles of every token or coin.
We cannot deny that sometimes, we may use certain trading signal moreover from VIP group, however, in fact, not all signal will work as what they have done Because sometimes, they have tried the signal at first and when we are treated in the position, the market may be changing. That is why the signal may be not effective. I have ever joined a VIP trading signal group, in fact, the administrator also said that no every signal will work effectively 100%, and there will be always risks to the signal. SO, be wise with the trading margin and position.

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Quote from: junkerr on September 12, 2022, 07:39:29 AM

You are right. currently, many trading groups only provide information on the assets that can be purchased and forecast growth targets only. even what is given is not necessarily successful.
most such groups share for trading futures on the exchange.
not many provide knowledge and direction regarding the use of the simplest tools and methods of analysis that a beginner can do.

from my perspective it's good for somebody to study the elementary things of trading before venturing into it. because i have notice that while some people experience lose in trading is because of lack of understanding and lack of inquiring over trading, because trading have a strategic method use in trading and without understanding it in such way, you will not excell via trading. You are not far from the truth base on your suggestion.

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A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.

And this is the paradox with signals, someone that doesn't really know enough about the markets is not going to be capable of distinguishing when the signal they were given is good or not, and as such the signal is completely useless to them, but someone that actually knows enough about the markets to make this distinction also has enough knowledge to make their own analysis about what's happening in the market and create their own signals, making the use of those groups completely useless for them

When one can do market analysis then surely one gets an idea about the up and downs of the market. And when he receives a signal from a trading group, he is able to analyze it himself and feel how profitable the signal is. So I think a trader needs to have basic knowledge of market analysis regardless of which group to take signals from . otherwise he will never get better profit

IMHO you are talking about mediocre trading signal base on the tone of your discussion because the real signal was meant as guide for completely noob traders for there trading moves. It includes explanation of both technical analysis and fundamental analysis. I knew that there are a lot of signal group that using the term signal on providing bullshit trading call but that is not the real purpose of signal.

Traders should really have a basic knowledge before they even start trading and trading signal is guide on what coin should be bought since it’s very hard to browse all the coins and look all the chart for buy signal.

You are right. currently, many trading groups only provide information on the assets that can be purchased and forecast growth targets only. even what is given is not necessarily successful.
most such groups share for trading futures on the exchange.
not many provide knowledge and direction regarding the use of the simplest tools and methods of analysis that a beginner can do.

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A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.

And this is the paradox with signals, someone that doesn't really know enough about the markets is not going to be capable of distinguishing when the signal they were given is good or not, and as such the signal is completely useless to them, but someone that actually knows enough about the markets to make this distinction also has enough knowledge to make their own analysis about what's happening in the market and create their own signals, making the use of those groups completely useless for them

When one can do market analysis then surely one gets an idea about the up and downs of the market. And when he receives a signal from a trading group, he is able to analyze it himself and feel how profitable the signal is. So I think a trader needs to have basic knowledge of market analysis regardless of which group to take signals from . otherwise he will never get better profit

IMHO you are talking about mediocre trading signal base on the tone of your discussion because the real signal was meant as guide for completely noob traders for there trading moves. It includes explanation of both technical analysis and fundamental analysis. I knew that there are a lot of signal group that using the term signal on providing bullshit trading call but that is not the real purpose of signal.

Traders should really have a basic knowledge before they even start trading and trading signal is guide on what coin should be bought since it’s very hard to browse all the coins and look all the chart for buy signal.

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A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.

And this is the paradox with signals, someone that doesn't really know enough about the markets is not going to be capable of distinguishing when the signal they were given is good or not, and as such the signal is completely useless to them, but someone that actually knows enough about the markets to make this distinction also has enough knowledge to make their own analysis about what's happening in the market and create their own signals, making the use of those groups completely useless for them

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Quote from: justdimin on September 11, 2022, 04:18:02 PM

I understand the keen interest towards these because I have been part of a few as well and found out it was bad and left myself but the best educator is actually doing something and realizing why it is bad rather than just hearing about why it is bad from other people.

Realizing how bad they are will make you appreciate that slow growth and process in trading is still the best. You're the one to realize and see the huge gap that it brings if you're learning on your own through your experience, no dictation, no one gives you that doubt to yourself.

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We can talk about how that is bad as long as we want and in the end we are going to end up with a big loss no matter what, hence it is not going to be acceptable for OP or anyone who wants to try it out to just hear it from us. Just go join one, and see why we disliked it, but at the very least make sure that you do not spend all of your money on what you hear there so you won't have to start from scratch.

Well for me, they better listen instead of doing the whole thing and joining these so called trading groups. What's must better to be realized is all about learning on their own through trading and understanding it through their made experiences.

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I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

This is a question that is asked frequently in this forum and if you have taken the time to read the responses to those questions you will see that the majority of the members of the forum are not really very enthusiastic about those groups, and it is very easy to see why that is the case, most of those groups do not really proportionate to you any kind of useful information about learning how to trade and instead they give signals, signals that are not really that good either so if I were you I will stay away from those groups so you don't waste your time.

I understand the keen interest towards these because I have been part of a few as well and found out it was bad and left myself but the best educator is actually doing something and realizing why it is bad rather than just hearing about why it is bad from other people.

We can talk about how that is bad as long as we want and in the end we are going to end up with a big loss no matter what, hence it is not going to be acceptable for OP or anyone who wants to try it out to just hear it from us. Just go join one, and see why we disliked it, but at the very least make sure that you do not spend all of your money on what you hear there so you won't have to start from scratch.

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I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

Telegram is not a secure platform. Scammers attack Telegram the most. So I think it is better not to take trading signals from Telegram.
(....)

I don't find the issue here is on Telegram, scammers are the problem here, we say it's very easy to create an account on Telegram so anyone can create an account and/or pretend someone and scam other people. Even on what platform, you can encounter these kinds of problem.
People must also learn the basics here like how to spot scams or fishy actions by someone or a group.

A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.

It wont be bad on joining those groups as long you are aware on whats happening around or you do see something fishy which it would really be basing up on your own will and judgement.There are lots of free groups

out there which some of them do share up some relevant information and considerable analysis which can be possibly applied into yours and this is where people/trader differs when it comes on being resourceful.

Just dont pay up anything when someone do really ask out on doing so because those trading signals and tips are just pure speculation too and its better to depend on your own
and never ever pay on something like this.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on September 07, 2022, 06:58:16 PM

or maybe none at all. paid groups don't equate to assurance of getting profits. we have no idea where they are getting their info about those signals. so yeah, maybe, most of them are just speculating and basing from rumours.

Paid groups do not guarantee the correctness of their forecasts, since it is simply impossible to do this in the cryptocurrency market. Given this, we can assume that the percentage of correct transactions is approximately the same in paid and free groups.

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If you intend to enter a telegram group for the purpose of day trading i will advise you not to spending your time engaging in such a pointless pastimes as there is no proof that will furnish you with factual data simply because they do not have such a perfect experience to do so in order to succeed in gaining payout. Instead you should just check out several YouTube videos to ensure your planned action will be profitable,.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

Telegram is not a secure platform. Scammers attack Telegram the most. So I think it is better not to take trading signals from Telegram.
(....)

I don't find the issue here is on Telegram, scammers are the problem here, we say it's very easy to create an account on Telegram so anyone can create an account and/or pretend someone and scam other people. Even on what platform, you can encounter these kinds of problem.
People must also learn the basics here like how to spot scams or fishy actions by someone or a group.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

- Often in crypto traders groups, especially in the telegram channel, there is a fee demanded. And when you are honest with exploitative people, you can get money in the end, so be careful.

But others say that there are also legit ones but the problem is we don't know if they are legit, because everyone will say that they are legitimate trading groups, signal groups.

So, why do you seem to want to join such? doesn't it seem like by doing that you are giving opportunities to exploitative people here in the crypto trading industry? I'm just asking.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

This is a question that is asked frequently in this forum and if you have taken the time to read the responses to those questions you will see that the majority of the members of the forum are not really very enthusiastic about those groups, and it is very easy to see why that is the case, most of those groups do not really proportionate to you any kind of useful information about learning how to trade and instead they give signals, signals that are not really that good either so if I were you I will stay away from those groups so you don't waste your time.

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I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

Telegram is not a secure platform. Scammers attack Telegram the most. So I think it is better not to take trading signals from Telegram . And Facebook carries a real identity of every person so I don't think it's wise to use Facebook Messenger for cryptocurrency trading or anything else related crypto. You can use Discord to take trading signal and also you can follow trading Discussions and speculators

^ Any social media group should not be trusted as a trader signal group. Most of them are not reliable as our references in trading, it is preferred to have our own research than relaying them our trading activity. A day trader needs accurate results which don't have a delay if a group gives a delayed broadcast of price prediction it could be will lead you to the wrong action which results in possible losses. So I recommend to anyone avoid them as much as you can have your own research then you are fine.

It's a bad thing to trust trader groups to make decisions when trading, even I have joined several times with a paid group traders, the results
are far from what I expected. Apart from constantly losing money, my trading skills also didn't improve. So as you said don't trust signal group
traders on any social media, because the result is the same we will only lose money. Because most trading groups only benefit the group owner,
so if we want to be a successful trader we should avoid joining trading groups. If we really want our trading skills to increase, I prefer to join
a trading course. Because based on my experience joining trading courses, I learned many things about trading, even some trading courses
provide mentors to assist us in trading. So the money I spend to join the trading course is much more useful, now i am starting to understand
how to analyze the market well, slowly my trading results are getting better.

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Quote from: PX-Z on September 04, 2022, 09:26:50 AM

Paid crypto traders group is such a waste of money and time. Yes, it is a thing in the past, when ICO is in surge, but all it did is just hype, lure its members buy a new shitcoin or buy the hype then leave them hanging in the top when the group leaders sell almost their holdings.
People knows such thing still exists today but yeah, better to read news, follow what specific trader in crpyto twitter and learn with yourself.

True. You still find a lot of paid groups. You will find paid group promotions within crypto related free groups. I joined a paid trading group and it was the worst decision I ever made. They keep sharing random signals and only a few of those signals are successful. And the admin takes credit for the signal that is successful and forgets the trades that lose! The trader's trading balance will be zero before he realizes anything. So instead of joining these groups it is better to trade using your own knowledge.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

Telegram is not a secure platform. Scammers attack Telegram the most. So I think it is better not to take trading signals from Telegram . And Facebook carries a real identity of every person so I don't think it's wise to use Facebook Messenger for cryptocurrency trading or anything else related crypto. You can use Discord to take trading signal and also you can follow trading Discussions and speculators

^ Any social media group should not be trusted as a trader signal group. Most of them are not reliable as our references in trading, it is preferred to have our own research than relaying them our trading activity. A day trader needs accurate results which don't have a delay if a group gives a delayed broadcast of price prediction it could be will lead you to the wrong action which results in possible losses. So I recommend to anyone avoid them as much as you can have your own research then you are fine.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on September 07, 2022, 05:31:09 AM

But I think it will be okay if you still want to look for free signals at no cost as long as you also analyze before you use them or decide to buy the coins based on them. This is to avoid mistakes in buying the wrong coins and not being able to benefit us.

If you know most free signal groups can't be trusted, you shouldn't join them. It even makes the chance of choosing the wrong coins to be higher. The more often you see the signals, the higher opportunity to be inspired to buy them someday. It won't be a good idea to make free signal groups as the source of analyzing potential coins. It will be better to analyze potential coins in our own way. Learn how to read chart patterns, knows the fundamental factors of the coins, and update information related to coins, these are what we need to determine potential coins.

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In fact no one can ever say the market condition correctly. No one can tell you with any guarantee how long this token will go up or down. Because no one knows when the market will happen. Only expert traders can give you an idea about the trade with their analysis. And indeed there is no such signal that it will hit as it says.So you do the analysis yourself without buying signals. If you don't understand anything at first then you can follow other group. But as he said, you will not be disappointed if you buy the tokens later and play Loch.You can learn everything slowly, if you want to be a good trader then you need to acquire a lot of knowledge about the market. But you won't actually find a group that will tell you exactly when a token goes up or down. So don't get cheated by buying other people's signals.

Yes, this is what I was trying to say in another way, to learn on your own and get some simple results is better than getting paid or even free recommendations because then you will not learn anything and you will stay in your place without gaining any experience, and also you will still need others. In the beginning, you will make a lot of mistakes, but with time you will improve and increase your experience.

Not only that but totally depending on other people can also make you lose money because you will be introduced to a scam coin but of course, you will invest on it as you don't know the real truth behind it. Scenarios like this can be avoided on those premium groups which requires you to pay them although the chance to lose is still there because they are not a god to know everything but they are only a human that can make mistakes too.

It's easy for us to say that we should learn on our own but the reality is that not all want's to exert an effort but there are lazy peeps that only want to do things in the easiest possible way.

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Yes, this is what I was trying to say in another way, to learn on your own and get some simple results is better than getting paid or even free recommendations because then you will not learn anything and you will stay in your place without gaining any experience, and also you will still need others. In the beginning, you will make a lot of mistakes, but with time you will improve and increase your experience.

The only experience you get from such groups is that going for lucrative looking deals and picks taken by random internet people, leads to getting scammed. Repeating the same mistake by joining another such group is the sign of not having learnt from a mistake.

In fact there are many newbies trying to do this everyday but getting fooled by the group owners but they still dont learn their lesson. This is the reason why such topics come up every week in this forum.

The best experience is often by making a mistake in dummy trading and in real life trading. It is not easy to make money in the market and nobody is going to help you here. But learning to do spot trading is easy and needs patience.

Indeed, there is no other choice than the offers that have been provided in the group to take advantage of them, they choose a random price to sell or buy which has been determined by the owner of the usual group.

But beginners just want to be faster so that it becomes a good choice for him and never think about the risk of whether this is a scam or not beginners often follow when there is a big and easy profit.

For me without experience and mistakes it's a lesson but in trading it takes a long process of experience, beginners should start from here, not join a group and then follow random directions.

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on September 08, 2022, 03:50:47 AM

Yes, this is what I was trying to say in another way, to learn on your own and get some simple results is better than getting paid or even free recommendations because then you will not learn anything and you will stay in your place without gaining any experience, and also you will still need others. In the beginning, you will make a lot of mistakes, but with time you will improve and increase your experience.

The only experience you get from such groups is that going for lucrative looking deals and picks taken by random internet people, leads to getting scammed. Repeating the same mistake by joining another such group is the sign of not having learnt from a mistake.

In fact there are many newbies trying to do this everyday but getting fooled by the group owners but they still dont learn their lesson. This is the reason why such topics come up every week in this forum.

The best experience is often by making a mistake in dummy trading and in real life trading. It is not easy to make money in the market and nobody is going to help you here. But learning to do spot trading is easy and needs patience.

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In fact no one can ever say the market condition correctly. No one can tell you with any guarantee how long this token will go up or down. Because no one knows when the market will happen. Only expert traders can give you an idea about the trade with their analysis. And indeed there is no such signal that it will hit as it says.So you do the analysis yourself without buying signals. If you don't understand anything at first then you can follow other group. But as he said, you will not be disappointed if you buy the tokens later and play Loch.You can learn everything slowly, if you want to be a good trader then you need to acquire a lot of knowledge about the market. But you won't actually find a group that will tell you exactly when a token goes up or down. So don't get cheated by buying other people's signals.

Yes, this is what I was trying to say in another way, to learn on your own and get some simple results is better than getting paid or even free recommendations because then you will not learn anything and you will stay in your place without gaining any experience, and also you will still need others. In the beginning, you will make a lot of mistakes, but with time you will improve and increase your experience.

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on September 07, 2022, 06:34:46 AM

Personally, I tried many of these groups (paid and free), but unfortunately I did not get much benefit, I have many of them in Telegram, but I do not want to put links here so as not to make free advertising for them, there are some recommendations that were good, but most of them did not achieve their goals, these channels Or groups in a way that aims to profit from followers only. So you don't have to hope to make big profits from it.
Another thing most of them steal each other's recommendations.

In fact no one can ever say the market condition correctly. No one can tell you with any guarantee how long this token will go up or down. Because no one knows when the market will happen. Only expert traders can give you an idea about the trade with their analysis. And indeed there is no such signal that it will hit as it says.So you do the analysis yourself without buying signals. If you don't understand anything at first then you can follow other group. But as he said, you will not be disappointed if you buy the tokens later and play Loch.You can learn everything slowly, if you want to be a good trader then you need to acquire a lot of knowledge about the market. But you won't actually find a group that will tell you exactly when a token goes up or down. So don't get cheated by buying other people's signals.

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Not all paid groups are reliable. Most of them will only make you waste time and money. I've tried joining signal groups before and I was regretful about it. They will ask for payment but don't provide the reliable information that we need. The best thing to do is to acquire personal knowledge where you don't need to rely on others. Just try to learn how to deal with the volatility of the coin of your choice so you wouldn't lose track.

What they do is likely just send information about what's good to buy based on what they have on their data. And the actual thing is, is there really data? or it's just pure speculation and opinion of a trader of what's with the market? Maybe out of hundred paid groups, there are only 1 or two of them that are legit. This is just based on what I think with these paid groups because I think there are those that are really helpful and shares trading techniques and insights with the market so it's like a trading education group not a signals group.

or maybe none at all. paid groups don't equate to assurance of getting profits. we have no idea where they are getting their info about those signals. so yeah, maybe, most of them are just speculating and basing from rumours. if you want to have a solid foundation in trading, better learn it on your own. do small trading first. read about the coins, and observe how they perform in the trading market. know those reasons why they are pumping and dumping. in time, you will learn how to spot possible pnd coins.

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Not all paid groups are reliable. Most of them will only make you waste time and money. I've tried joining signal groups before and I was regretful about it. They will ask for payment but don't provide the reliable information that we need. The best thing to do is to acquire personal knowledge where you don't need to rely on others. Just try to learn how to deal with the volatility of the coin of your choice so you wouldn't lose track.

What they do is likely just send information about what's good to buy based on what they have on their data. And the actual thing is, is there really data? or it's just pure speculation and opinion of a trader of what's with the market? Maybe out of hundred paid groups, there are only 1 or two of them that are legit. This is just based on what I think with these paid groups because I think there are those that are really helpful and shares trading techniques and insights with the market so it's like a trading education group not a signals group.

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Want to buy your signal? Actually no one will give you signal as you are looking for group. For that you have to buy signal from them. There are some public groups where signal is given for free. In fact, even if you buy and trade signals, you can lose money because anything can happen here in crypto currency. If you really want to be a trader, you have to work day and night, you can't wait for someone's signal.You can find out that traders and traders who sell signals also make losses.Because the market doesn't follow anyone's word, the experienced traders can tell you that this coin can go up or down just by looking at the news. But no one knows what will happen. So no group of signals is such that you can profit from trading with it. If you want to create a public group, you can search by typing "Trading Group" in Telegram.

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Personally, I tried many of these groups (paid and free), but unfortunately I did not get much benefit, I have many of them in Telegram, but I do not want to put links here so as not to make free advertising for them, there are some recommendations that were good, but most of them did not achieve their goals, these channels Or groups in a way that aims to profit from followers only. So you don't have to hope to make big profits from it.
Another thing most of them steal each other's recommendations.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

Instead of paying a subscription fee to a paid trading group, it's better to use that money for trading capital. At the same time, you learn more about trading to get good skills in analyzing and knowing when to enter the market. After all, the fee is not cheaper as you thought.

For free trading groups, I don't recommend it because we don't know if their signals are valid or just suggest we enter the market and buy certain coins without knowing anything. I suggest you learn about trading so that it will be useful for you to gain profit and gain analytical skills.

Im tending to say the same thing which it would be more worth rather than on paying up some subscription fees which isnt really that useful on the first place but there are some groups which i had encountered in the past where they do give out free signals without any charge or something but i do still feel that it wasnt enough at all in totally speaking with analysis or something correlates to this. Above links given might or might not be useful came from other members of this forum but it would be not bad on checking them out and if OP thinks that it would be that useful then it would be on his choice.

I think the free signals at no cost will still be there but we have to watch out for whether the free signals come from a group of people who can analyze market movements and can do this. I found a lot of free signals without charge but they tend to share signals from other groups because I also found the same thing in other groups so I don't really trust them.

But I think it will be okay if you still want to look for free signals at no cost as long as you also analyze before you use them or decide to buy the coins based on them. This is to avoid mistakes in buying the wrong coins and not being able to benefit us.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

I cant and I will not give you any suggestions regarding this.

But I will warn you, that such groups are only created to prey on the new members - to make them think that they are going to make money by feeding them fake signals and then dump coins on them owned by the owners of the group. Additionally fake shilling is rampant across majority of the social media platforms which also creeps into these "paid" or free groups.

For news, there are a lot of sites posting such, this should not be difficult to collect even for a newbie.

Dont think that you can make money easily with crypto, it takes time and effort and there is no short cut to easy picks, just like in sports betting.

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This is a bad idea if OP knew what he was about to discover since trading signal group aren't profitable really. They just manipulate their people in a group to do this and that but it was them that will benefit at the end. They don't care if you get a profit or not since their personal gain should comes first.

Avoid at all cost when talking about group signal if whoever taught or told you that they are a great help or something, well, they don't.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

...Do you guys have any suggestions?

Obviously you don't have enough knowledge for independent trading and you think that such groups will help you get a profit, but the truth is that there are no such groups. Only a self-made decision based on your own knowledge and experience, plus high-quality analytics, will lead you to success.

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I agree, as a newbie, they're better at exploring on their own and gaining the experience with any amount that they have ready to pay those groups.

Instead of paying them, they use that as capital and start trading on their own. Don't just use it with a single full blast as they trade, each amount should be used carefully so that they don't miss the lesson that they should learn.

but the fact is many newbies in trading just copy trades. it provided several paid groups. it makes it easy for beginners who only think for profit, not a skill they have.
Of course, if you want to grow, even if you sometimes experience losses. we can do our trading and analysis. everything has a risk. depending on how we see the opportunities that exist.

we must realize, that there are groups that do share trading knowledge not just signals to trade. but provide education for trading. beginners should join such groups to increase their knowledge and skills. not just looking at the signal to make a profit.

That's why they have to learn on their own. If they want to copy trade, that's their strategy but is the person they're copying trades are going to be that accurate forever?

I don't think that they can stand on it forever.

It's just the start that they should be looking at but they won't be depending on that strategy forever and as for traders group and signals, they shouldn't depend on it.

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Quote from: Maus0728 on September 04, 2022, 05:53:32 AM

I have joined 2 discord group of crypto traders led by @Mindset_BTC and @bloodgoodBTC -- that's their Twitter handle. You can chat or ask questions from there but it isn't a community that's frequently active who will gave signals for you to follow. They also have trading resources just to get your feet wet.

Or...you can just hop in to the Speculation[1] or Trading Discussion[2] board here in this forum.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=57.0
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=8.0

Thats cool, for the first time I have seen someone claiming good telegram group for the trading signals. I am not quick beliver and I might just try out this signaling group. I just hope that there is not much of the fuzz about signals, hypes, buy now kinda hype where they tell us xyz coin is going to pump and shit! Because I have seen this kinda group before and lost my money. The surprising thing is it was referred by very reputed member of the forum but at the end it did not turn out proper group. It was just another pump and dump kind of group so test it with demo account first and then put your really money at work afterwards.

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Signal groups are not really good for traders that really want to be in Cryptocurrency for long term, most of those signal groups are not really trusted, some might endup giving fake signals and if you follow them you will endup losing your money, some signal groups will ask you to pay but they still provide fake signals, if you want to be a serious trader then I think it's better if you can just take your time and learn about bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general. People providing signals are just like you, so am sure you can also learn and give yourself signal, the signal you give yourself is the best signal because you will have confidence in it.

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Quote from: Maus0728 on September 04, 2022, 05:53:32 AM

I have joined 2 discord group of crypto traders led by @Mindset_BTC and @bloodgoodBTC -- that's their Twitter handle. You can chat or ask questions from there but it isn't a community that's frequently active who will gave signals for you to follow. They also have trading resources just to get your feet wet.

If we're looking at the same users, then @Mindset_BTC also has their telegram the same as their Twitter handle. It's the same thing with user @bloodgoodBTC too. However, they aren't deep into providing signals but crypto analyses from what I saw on their handles.

OP, you may want to take a look at this forum user – Fallensoldier – who has been on a repeated trade challenge of recent and follow his Twitter handle here. https://twitter.com/shorterprince/status/1563150259991130112. You can also get his telegram handle from his bio there. Remember, I ain't saying you should follow blindly. You only have to observe him and then know what's best for you.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

If you ask me that question I will suggest you to explore by your own and earn some knowledge first then go for investment on trading otherwise you can face big loss too. There are many paid and unpaid group who gives you signal but most of them are fake . So if you don't wanna get big loss don't rely on these kinds of thing earn knowledge and trade by your own .

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I'm not sure how reliable these paid signal groups are. We know that many scam and fraud happens on social media, particularly in Twitter and telegram platform. Can we really trust these people? I guess not... We don't need to pay someone who could teach us, there are a lot of trading resources online that are free. I think it was enough because learning trading couldn't be instant, it takes time and experience. So, instead of spending money to these paid groups, better make us of that money as your capital.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 07:43:59 AM

Thanks for replay. I am looking for public and paid groups. please send me a link and i will check it out.

Instead of paying a fee to join those stupid signal groups, why not use that money to experience trading and practice for yourself? You should know that those signals do not always guarantee that it will work as they say. They just like us rely on knowledge and combine the daily news to make predictions, they are not sorcerers with crystal balls like you think. If you really want to pursue and seriously want to make money in this market, you should learn and develop yourself. Depending on others will never end well.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

From my understanding i do understand that this community people does not give a description of something outside the community and especially all this social media that many people do use to scam people, secondly telegram group has been used to defraud many people who invest via a group, i know quite well that it's good have a signal and mostly for traders. You can start up you own sincere you are from this community and share your link to people.

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Quote from: mk4 on September 04, 2022, 07:50:28 AM

Crypto trading groups (especially paid ones) are crap. If you just want opinions concerning markets in general (not specific day trades), just join Twitter and follow people who post about markets frequently. Really no need to pay for anything.

That's possibly a better way then joining these groups which are most of the time promoting some shitcoins in order to gain personal benefits and holders loose the money.I have not joined anyone of them but have seen they sharing different coins and telling you with charts that this coin will rise and all that but in most of the cases it's not true.It is hard to find a genuine group that shares quality information with you or teach you regarding some trading tips and indicator for your investment so it's better to look in different ways.

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You’re still a newbie, better not to rush getting into this market just take it slowly and the right way. My suggestion is better, try to look for a good source of knowledge in the market, you can always have that in google of course and try to understand the basic rules of trading. Again, that is for your own benefit because trading signal is not good at all. If you want to succeed in long term, better to start doing this and start being committed especially in learning how to trade.

I agree, as a newbie, they're better at exploring on their own and gaining the experience with any amount that they have ready to pay those groups.

Instead of paying them, they use that as capital and start trading on their own. Don't just use it with a single full blast as they trade, each amount should be used carefully so that they don't miss the lesson that they should learn.

but the fact is many newbies in trading just copy trades. it provided several paid groups. it makes it easy for beginners who only think for profit, not a skill they have.
Of course, if you want to grow, even if you sometimes experience losses. we can do our trading and analysis. everything has a risk. depending on how we see the opportunities that exist.

we must realize, that there are groups that do share trading knowledge not just signals to trade. but provide education for trading. beginners should join such groups to increase their knowledge and skills. not just looking at the signal to make a profit.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

Just like many other here, I really hate any signal group because I’m also a victim of those group who are claiming to be professional at giving tips but in the end, they will just left you behind. Well, as a newbie you should not forget to invest on your knowledge first, that’s very important and you should pay attention to that.

it's true, for beginners it would be better to invest in bitcoin or ETH, and if you want to trade don't look for quick ways to earn money, such as copy trades. it would be better to learn from people who already understand trading so that it makes us understand trading better, it does take time and of course high risk, but believe me, we will get a lot of experience that can be used as the basic capital for our trading later.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

Just like many other here, I really hate any signal group because I’m also a victim of those group who are claiming to be professional at giving tips but in the end, they will just left you behind. Well, as a newbie you should not forget to invest on your knowledge first, that’s very important and you should pay attention to that.

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Quote from: samcrypto on September 04, 2022, 05:33:10 PM

You’re still a newbie, better not to rush getting into this market just take it slowly and the right way. My suggestion is better, try to look for a good source of knowledge in the market, you can always have that in google of course and try to understand the basic rules of trading. Again, that is for your own benefit because trading signal is not good at all. If you want to succeed in long term, better to start doing this and start being committed especially in learning how to trade.

I agree, as a newbie, they're better at exploring on their own and gaining the experience with any amount that they have ready to pay those groups.

Instead of paying them, they use that as capital and start trading on their own. Don't just use it with a single full blast as they trade, each amount should be used carefully so that they don't miss the lesson that they should learn.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 07:43:59 AM

I am looking for public and paid groups. please send me a link and i will check it out.

Both of them aren't good for traders, believed me, you'll regret it if you found paid service that seems wasting your money and time. Because I've heard most of them are nonsense and I even tried the public one as my reference in trading before but I leave on the group because it makes me distracted when I'm in trading. Another factor could be, that they will become a pump and dump group in which is organizer will benefit most than the members.

I would prefer to have my own research, unreliable sources could be your problem in the future. Why not just start in simple and basic trading like buy low and sell high. It's up to you now.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

You’re still a newbie, better not to rush getting into this market just take it slowly and the right way. My suggestion is better, try to look for a good source of knowledge in the market, you can always have that in google of course and try to understand the basic rules of trading. Again, that is for your own benefit because trading signal is not good at all. If you want to succeed in long term, better to start doing this and start being committed especially in learning how to trade.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

I would not recommend those telegram groups for any of the reasons you want to use them, if you want to share information there are many forums dedicated exclusively to trading which could help you improve your strategy, when it comes to signals not a single one of those groups is a good one whether you have to pay for the signals or not, and finally if you want to read the news about what it is happening at the markets in which you are interested you can just search for that information yourself.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

My suggestion is to learn trading on your own and never depend to any signal group, just like the suggestion of many here. We already know the risk of a signal group and that’s why as much as possible, we discourage newbies to get involve on this especially if they are going to pay just to join any group, I’m telling you OP it’s really not worth it.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 07:43:59 AM

Thanks for replay. I am looking for public and paid groups. please send me a link and i will check it out.

Joining a paid signal group is not worth it, usually they are just a pump and dump group where they give you signal that can result to a bad position for your because it can only benefit the creator of that signal so this is not advisable to join any paid group. You can just learn trading on your own, you can ask for tips without even paying anything especially here in the forum and also in other social media platform, better to do this than to depend to any signal group.

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I don't have anything to suggest.

You're already on the forum that there are some traders that shares their thoughts and analysis on the market. Just as said by mk4, signals group are total shits.

They're not going to give you the guarantee that you'll earn. Well, there's no guarantee on this market whether you've got them on back.

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There are so many Crypto traders groups on almost every platform and the scam rate of such groups is very high.
I think it's a big mistake in the first place for any one to believe In trading platform.

When I started early in trading I was so enthusiastic about trading groups and even following up trading influencers on YouTube on til I very nearly got scammed by a so called o
Trader giving me a fake trading platform to funds.
Also many of this trading signals are fake and what hurts the most is that they are never free.

I advice newbie trader to start on a demo probably go for workshops or video lectures don't ask for personal help like trade for me or sell me signal, rather learn the little and at your own pace.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

Instead of paying a subscription fee to a paid trading group, it's better to use that money for trading capital. At the same time, you learn more about trading to get good skills in analyzing and knowing when to enter the market. After all, the fee is not cheaper as you thought.

For free trading groups, I don't recommend it because we don't know if their signals are valid or just suggest we enter the market and buy certain coins without knowing anything. I suggest you learn about trading so that it will be useful for you to gain profit and gain analytical skills.

Im tending to say the same thing which it would be more worth rather than on paying up some subscription fees which isnt really that useful on the first place but there are some groups
which i had encountered in the past where they do give out free signals without any charge or something but i do still feel that it wasnt enough at all in totally speaking with analysis
or something correlates to this.Above links given might or might not be useful came from other members of this forum but it would be not bad on checking them out
and if OP thinks that it would be that useful then it would be on his choice.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

Instead of paying a subscription fee to a paid trading group, it's better to use that money for trading capital. At the same time, you learn more about trading to get good skills in analyzing and knowing when to enter the market. After all, the fee is not cheaper as you thought.

For free trading groups, I don't recommend it because we don't know if their signals are valid or just suggest we enter the market and buy certain coins without knowing anything. I suggest you learn about trading so that it will be useful for you to gain profit and gain analytical skills.

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There are a lot of groups created here recently about trading groups like in telegram but of course, make sure there's no money involved for teaching like mentorship if its all about the signals and patterns only for knowledge engagement because it is quite hard to make trust with those members too like a too good to be true offer with higher chance of winning trades. Always make a self-investment at the same time.

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Paid crypto traders group is such a waste of money and time. Yes, it is a thing in the past, when ICO is in surge, but all it did is just hype, lure its members buy a new shitcoin or buy the hype then leave them hanging in the top when the group leaders sell almost their holdings.
People knows such thing still exists today but yeah, better to read news, follow what specific trader in crpyto twitter and learn with yourself.

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Quote from: deathcode on September 04, 2022, 08:38:26 AM

you will find some paid groups. there may be some really good ones, but more will just share common signals that you can learn yourself.
even some of the groups are part of a pump scheme for shitcoin. it also applies to day trading or futures trading.
never trust anyone. learn and develop yourself. Day trading is not something impossible to learn. love your assets.

It’s very hard to find legit paid signal group that will give an authentic signal base on the market sentiment because most of them are giving signal on the coins that they already early purchased. Most of this paid signal groups offer signal for shitcoins that has high volatility that usually result to pump and dump because they usually sold there bags once the paid members bought there signal.

This process keeps repeating and there’s always a member left out especially the public group that this service shared later after the private group make a position too. Joining on this group is like participating on a market manipulation.

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you will find some paid groups. there may be some really good ones, but more will just share common signals that you can learn yourself.
even some of the groups are part of a pump scheme for shitcoin. it also applies to day trading or futures trading.
never trust anyone. learn and develop yourself. Day trading is not something impossible to learn. love your assets.

palle11

sr. member

Activity: 2366

Merit: 332

Why looking for paid group when there is no guarantee on it. In such group I think just few people close to owner of the project knows when they want to pump the coin. They don't disclose to the public what will benefit them, they are always owners of shit project that have paid group the pump and dump coins.. You stay in such group in vain, it is better you keep to try your luck yourself than to rely on paid group.

mk4

legendary

Activity: 2870

Merit: 3873

Paldo.io 🤖

Crypto trading groups (especially paid ones) are crap. If you just want opinions concerning markets in general (not specific day trades), just join Twitter and follow people who post about markets frequently. Really no need to pay for anything.

btcslo

newbie

Activity: 2

Merit: 0

Thanks for replay. I am looking for public and paid groups. please send me a link and i will check it out.

Coin_trader

copper member

Activity: 2800

Merit: 1179

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

The problem on this kind of group was you will pressured to open trade position for that day even though the signal posted on the group is not clearly explained or you didn’t understand it. Many user keep sharing there setup which is so confusing if you are new since your mind will not be focused. I suggest on participating with VIP group rather than general trading group to avoid mixed opinion and confusing signal that being shared by other members.

Are you looking for public group or paid group? Reply here your preference group type so thatI can drop an invitation link for the discord group.

Maus0728

legendary

Activity: 1904

Merit: 1563

I have joined 2 discord group of crypto traders led by @Mindset_BTC and @bloodgoodBTC -- that's their Twitter handle. You can chat or ask questions from there but it isn't a community that's frequently active who will gave signals for you to follow. They also have trading resources just to get your feet wet.

Or...you can just hop in to the Speculation[1] or Trading Discussion[2] board here in this forum.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=57.0
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=8.0

btcslo

newbie

Activity: 2

Merit: 0

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

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