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Quote from: Argoo on June 09, 2024, 11:42:21 AM

However, in this regard, it will be necessary to see what his attitude towards cryptocurrency will be if he again becomes President of the United States. After all, he is quite unpredictable and can again change his mind.

It's quite risky to check only during his presidency. It is not only crypto that Trump may change his mind on. Economy, Infrastructure, Education, Health and other human rights are within his jurisdiction. If we vote for him just to see how he will react to crypto and he doesn't fulfill his promises, you might be compromising the future of the entire country.

I don't think anyone should be judging who to vote for president based on only one aspect. But it seems like Trump is winning over just from his crypto comments alone.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on June 09, 2024, 03:51:04 PM

I will add only that I've read somewhere that although his criminal offense didn't lower too much his odds, it did so in a few states where it was pretty much a tie, hence he may lose those

A lot of Biden’s voters are only voting for him because they do not want Trump to be re-elected again. However in the recent polls, it is said that Trump is actually leading from Biden https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/08/politics/video/donald-trump-joe-biden-new-poll-presidential-election-2024-cupp-nr-digvid and has higher chances of winning swing states.

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(sadly I don't know which ones were those).

In recent polls, Arizona, Nevada, and Florida favors Trump while in Georgia they are tied. Now these swing states would be incredibly important to factor in and Trump leading those polls might be a good news to him.

There are 7 swing states including North Carolina, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, and Arizona. Trump would need to focus on the rest of the states if he wants to win.

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2019:

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I am not a fan of Bitcoin and other Cryptocurrencies, which are not money, and whose value is highly volatile and based on thin air. Unregulated Crypto Assets can facilitate unlawful behavior, including drug trade and other illegal activity....

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149472282584072192

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I AM VERY POSITIVE AND OPEN MINDED TO CRYPTOCURRENCY COMPANIES, AND ALL THINGS RELATED TO THIS NEW AND BURGEONING INDUSTRY. OUR COUNTRY MUST BE THE LEADER IN THE FIELD. THERE IS NO SECOND PLACE. CROOKED JOE BIDEN, ON THE OTHER HAND, THE WORST PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY, WANTS IT TO DIE A SLOW AND PAINFUL DEATH. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN WITH ME!

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/112503319133425856

Trump has practiced populist policies throughout his political career. It is very difficult to know the source and sincerity of his current ideas. Frankly, regardless of the results, I think he is doing a good job of it. If Trump is going to win the elections, he will do it this way. He has no other talent. He has no other choice...

Modern states are authorities more powerful than God. Such an organism is never compatible with the idea of decentralized money, it always clashes. Trump or Biden or anyone else can never produce a solution in the current system. Our problem is the system, not persons...

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Quote from: Argoo on June 09, 2024, 11:42:21 AM

In his election promises, Trump will say whatever he wants as long as it increases his rating. He used to speak poorly of cryptocurrency, but recently he has changed his attitude towards it in a positive direction. However, in this regard, it will be necessary to see what his attitude towards cryptocurrency will be if he again becomes President of the United States. After all, he is quite unpredictable and can again change his mind.

At the same time, his conviction of a criminal offense lowered his rating by an estimated only ten percent and therefore the likelihood of his re-presidency is high.

I find this analysis pretty good.

I will add only that I've read somewhere that although his criminal offense didn't lower too much his odds, it did so in a few states where it was pretty much a tie, hence he may lose those (sadly I don't know which ones were those). But this may matter a lot and this may be the reason his minions have become much much more vocal and inventive (crypto topics being part of their ingeniosity).

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Quote from: cabron on June 09, 2024, 09:28:00 AM

Talk about options besides Biden, there is no one else anyway so they might as well believe Trump can get them somewhere. Unless there is someone else they build up to replace Biden as the presidential candidate. Sounds too late for that.

OP talking like there is no freedom elsewhere. But he could be right about stablecoins being controlled by the government as even today they are trying to regulate it, easily takeover one, and still the government could sanction anyone using stablecoin. Or they don't have to take over, they hold Tehter and coinbase by the balls.

In his election promises, Trump will say whatever he wants as long as it increases his rating. He used to speak poorly of cryptocurrency, but recently he has changed his attitude towards it in a positive direction. However, in this regard, it will be necessary to see what his attitude towards cryptocurrency will be if he again becomes President of the United States. After all, he is quite unpredictable and can again change his mind.

At the same time, his conviction of a criminal offense lowered his rating by an estimated only ten percent and therefore the likelihood of his re-presidency is high.

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Quote from: cabron on June 09, 2024, 09:28:00 AM

OP talking like there is no freedom elsewhere. But he could be right about stablecoins being controlled by the government as even today they are trying to regulate it, easily takeover one, and still the government could sanction anyone using stablecoin. Or they don't have to take over, they hold Tehter and coinbase by the balls.

As long as the government can create something from scratch (like CBDC) to have full control over its supply and how it works inside their own territory, I don't see any reason why they'd adopt an existing stablecoin like Tether that is not even in their territory.

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Talk about options besides Biden, there is no one else anyway so they might as well believe Trump can get them somewhere. Unless there is someone else they build up to replace Biden as the presidential candidate. Sounds too late for that.

OP talking like there is no freedom elsewhere. But he could be right about stablecoins being controlled by the government as even today they are trying to regulate it, easily takeover one, and still the government could sanction anyone using stablecoin. Or they don't have to take over, they hold Tehter and coinbase by the balls.

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Quote from: pooya87 on June 09, 2024, 08:05:24 AM

His advertisement team has some idiots who think him mentioning cryptos would get him some more votes. Otherwise he has no agenda whatsoever except what benefits him.

I'm afraid that you may be wrong.
I've noticed that voters tend to have an incredibly short memory and simply love to be lied to nicely.
With this in mind and together with the strong online campaign - I usually don't care much, but this time even I noticed the sheer amount of shills on Twitter, from "Trump will do [insert your wish here] for crypto" to "Trump will get Elon as adviser" and so on - I fear that his position is very strong.
Of course, Biden being weak also helps. And with the other competitors almost invisible (are there any still?),... it looks worrisome imho (especially as I fear he might do something stupid vs the current wars if get gets the opportunity).

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Quote from: stompix on June 09, 2024, 08:37:56 AM

I'll have to admit that maybe I am disconnected from the realities of how elections in the US works. How I see it, beyond all the online comments, a voter who is a the ballot ready to pick a choice will give support for crypto only very little consideration in the face of other aspects of leadership.

This is not even me going against Trump at all, and I thinking about it, they'll also campaign in other areas, putting all together can create a very good impression in the mind of the electorates.

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Quote from: Upgrade00 on June 09, 2024, 08:32:23 AM

I get tempted many of the time to dismiss some of the posts I see related to this as clickbait, cause no way an actual campaign team room think that showing support for crypto will swing votes in favour of their camp.

Why?
Look around it works great!
From a crypto hater like before Trump is starting to become the most lovable person in the crypto industry, he is even taking the spotlight from Bukele, it takes just the mirage of 100k per coin and crypto supporters all over the world will show support for him too.
And with an army of trolls doing the job for you and attacking the other party what better investment?

He needed another vocal fan base and he got it!

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Quote from: Waldorf77 on June 09, 2024, 07:57:21 AM

But If we look at the cbdc plan there is in USA stablecoins but nothing about cbdc i guess USA will choose stablecoins like usdt USDC and paxos as new dollar.

Or they'll just stick to the digital version of the dollar for online payments. And if they do commit to a CBDC, it will be as an alternative and not a replacement of the dollar.

Quote from: pooya87 on June 09, 2024, 08:05:24 AM

His advertisement team has some idiots who think him mentioning cryptos would get him some more votes. Otherwise he has no agenda whatsoever except what benefits him.

I get tempted many of the time to dismiss some of the posts I see related to this as clickbait, cause no way an actual campaign team room think that showing support for crypto will swing votes in favour of their camp.

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Quote from: Waldorf77 on June 09, 2024, 07:57:21 AM

Looks like trump agenda been secretly in crypto from the begginning.

LOL
His advertisement team has some idiots who think him mentioning cryptos would get him some more votes. Otherwise he has no agenda whatsoever except what benefits him.

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Don't forget that trumps biggest buddie mr l.fink bl ceo use to chill with trump a lot.

Also don't forget that the current Cuban Missile Crisis 2.0 that is putting US mainland under another missile threat after 60 years is the result of what he undid during his presidency...

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But If we look at the cbdc plan there is in USA stablecoins but nothing about cbdc i guess USA will choose stablecoins like usdt USDC and paxos as new dollar.

LOL
No government would ever choose a centralized shitcoin that a company controls (not them). Least of which USA government.

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Now we know If you want to have a lot wealth and own best properties in USA you need to have a lot crypto.

That makes no sense! None of the wealthy people in America (the 1%) have gotten their wealth from crypto. That's not about to change.

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Looks like trump agenda been secretly in crypto from the begginning.
Don't forget that trumps biggest buddie mr l.fink bl ceo use to chill with trump a lot.
But If we look at the cbdc plan there is in USA stablecoins but nothing about cbdc i guess USA will choose stablecoins like usdt USDC and paxos as new dollar.
It's interesting to see that in the big guys plans there is only in USA total crypto freedom.
(I guess Biden regime was here just to shake out weak hands for the whales when the trump comes he will make crypto whales owners of USA )
Now we know If you want to have a lot wealth and own best properties in USA you need to have a lot crypto.
I wish to be in USA it will be best country because instead of cbdc there Will be well known stablecoins officially used and connected with crypto atm -s with cash options.
While in many other countries will be CBDC-S like in south africa Canada and UK ..Im not sure about Europe but i hope Europe Will follow to USA and choose freedom crypto not cbdc Europe can choose USDC or usdt but eurt or euro usdc ...UK havent announced nothing no collaboration with circle usdc and usdt tether it's bad then it might be mean they choose dictatorship cbdc in UK Sad

2025 Every crypto people want to in USA for sure !

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