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August 14, 2022, 08:53:53 AM
#71
However, this understanding will only apply in developed countries, because technology and development are easier to develop there, while in developing countries they tend to think differently, where only a small number of people are involved in technological developments, Cryptocurrency in particular has been so developed for now, where many people have been involved in it, this is a challenge in doing something new, it is not impossible in the future crypto will expand to other things related to human life
I also already think that in the future rypto will expand to other things in human life and those who still don't understand about how crypto will try to learn it gradually. The situation of each country today is indeed different and cannot be equated so that any development must be different. Including technological developments, economics and also those related to cryptocurrencies in general.
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August 09, 2022, 05:53:39 PM
#70
This is good for the crypto community. Ecclesiastes 10:10 says "If the iron be blunt, and he do not whet the edge, then must he put to more strength: but wisdom is profitable to direct". I sometimes feel that christians are supposed to be the richest in the world but I discovered that they Put in more faith than strength, more faith than wisdom. So if they have the zeel to learn crypto and wisdom to direct them, kingdom wealth is indeed on the way.
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August 08, 2022, 11:15:06 PM
#69
From various reasons, both pros and cons, digital currency has been so developed among people, this also shows that the process of advancing a technology is not only limited to old things, and there are many other cases related to the advantages and use of digital money as easy transaction tool
Many things have become easy for everyone to do through digital currency now. That is why many people have started to like cryptocurrencies because it is easy to make transactions through cryptocurrencies with various networks that are already available. So Blockchain technology and also those related to cryptocurrencies will continue to develop because it is considered to make it easier for each user to complete certain jobs.
However, this understanding will only apply in developed countries, because technology and development are easier to develop there, while in developing countries they tend to think differently, where only a small number of people are involved in technological developments, Cryptocurrency in particular has been so developed for now, where many people have been involved in it, this is a challenge in doing something new, it is not impossible in the future crypto will expand to other things related to human life
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August 08, 2022, 03:50:47 AM
#68
Everything that shows support or education about crypto will always be a PLUS FACTOR , though I dont like the concept as Church must be separated from other social things but this will add flavor to the currency increasing .

But If I am to be one of the church member , I think would feel irritated because what I wanna hear in church is something about religion and not about future currency or profiteering .
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August 08, 2022, 03:09:09 AM
#67
From various reasons, both pros and cons, digital currency has been so developed among people, this also shows that the process of advancing a technology is not only limited to old things, and there are many other cases related to the advantages and use of digital money as easy transaction tool
Many things have become easy for everyone to do through digital currency now. That is why many people have started to like cryptocurrencies because it is easy to make transactions through cryptocurrencies with various networks that are already available. So Blockchain technology and also those related to cryptocurrencies will continue to develop because it is considered to make it easier for each user to complete certain jobs.
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August 08, 2022, 02:44:46 AM
#66
Does this look like  a plus to the crypto community?   
yeah, sure I think it is a good thing but I just hope they don't get the idea that just because they invested in a cryptocurrency that they'll earn money. I also hope that this crypto training that their church is doing is not just a one-time thing.
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August 08, 2022, 12:26:50 AM
#65
Wow, folks need to be careful with this as it could be another way of losing your coin, seen it happen to folks losing all their fiat.  It could be a good strategy for a church to put their surplus in, which isn't to be 'touched', and watch it grow over the years, but again, parishioners be wary.
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August 07, 2022, 11:59:54 PM
#64
Cryptocurrency as a digit asset based currency is on a  daily gradually gaining the widespread acceptance as expected, looking at 2010 compared to this day 2022 the awareness and engagement has been tremendous and it's quite a welcome development despite the ban placed on it by few governments.

I came across a video that has made social media talking which shows how a crypto class was conducted by a church for it's members to be educated about the knowledge of cryptocurrency.

According to the source:
The video was captioned, "Crypto training. Proverbs 14:23In all toil there is profit, but mere talk tends only to poverty.'' According to the netizen who shared the clip, the pastor got a professional to train congregants on crypto. While boasting that such an opportunity can't be got anywhere, the netizen expressed joy that 'kingdom wealth is on the way.' In the clip, a projector is seen displaying a crypto trading chart while people listened.


https://www.legit.ng/people/1478160-crypto-chuch-pastor-tutor-train-members-crypto-church-video-stirs-reactions-social-media

Does this look like  a plus to the crypto community?   
This is a sign that Cryptocurrencies are increasingly in demand by many people, in the previous year until now, asset-based currencies have developed quite rapidly, even some of them can be made transactions like using fiat money that ever existed.

From various reasons, both pros and cons, digital currency has been so developed among people, this also shows that the process of advancing a technology is not only limited to old things, and there are many other cases related to the advantages and use of digital money as easy transaction tool
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August 07, 2022, 10:45:14 PM
#63
It might seem silly, but this is what striked my mind. Possibly to receive offerings in the form of cryptocurrency the pastor of the church could've taken the initiative. So, that there is no issues with taxation and other problems. Apart this isn't the duty of the pastor. Nowadays everything is about money, they teach and preach for money and very few are truly spiritual. Anyhow in one way this seems good.

we don't know their motives, but we always welcome any means of adoption in crypto. if nothing else, it can drive adoption and interest by his constituents. it may possibly help some of his people, we don't know what good things will come about. but more then likely, some of these people will try to look at crypto market.

Yes, and this is what my crossed my mind as well, maybe in the future, we will hear and see priest or anything that is related to religion that they can donate thru crypto so I wouldn't be surprised. But this could be a debate as well, I mean we have seen religion being involved now in acquisition of wealth? Does it go against the basic teachings of let's say Christianity? or well, in any case if Church goer as going to buy or become a investor of crypto specially bitcoin then why not?
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August 07, 2022, 09:52:33 PM
#62
If Bitcoin has opportunities and benefits that can impact the lives of members of the church positively, then it is not a bad idea. After all churches carryout diverse forms of entrepreneurship and other kinds of training to ensure that members gain the right skills that would enable them increase their income. But members must be given the right knowledge about Bitcoin. They should be able to differentiate between Bitcoin and other shitcoins. Also the risk involved in dealing with Bitcoin should also be discussed and it shouldn't be perceived as a get-rich-quick scheme.   
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August 07, 2022, 06:58:59 PM
#61
It might seem silly, but this is what striked my mind. Possibly to receive offerings in the form of cryptocurrency the pastor of the church could've taken the initiative. So, that there is no issues with taxation and other problems. Apart this isn't the duty of the pastor. Nowadays everything is about money, they teach and preach for money and very few are truly spiritual. Anyhow in one way this seems good.

we don't know their motives, but we always welcome any means of adoption in crypto. if nothing else, it can drive adoption and interest by his constituents. it may possibly help some of his people, we don't know what good things will come about. but more then likely, some of these people will try to look at crypto market.
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August 07, 2022, 06:31:20 PM
#60
It might seem silly, but this is what striked my mind. Possibly to receive offerings in the form of cryptocurrency the pastor of the church could've taken the initiative. So, that there is no issues with taxation and other problems. Apart this isn't the duty of the pastor. Nowadays everything is about money, they teach and preach for money and very few are truly spiritual. Anyhow in one way this seems good.
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August 07, 2022, 04:53:09 PM
#59
Basically the cryptocurrency don't have to do with religion.

As the self-appointed high priest of the god of Bitcoin, I must object:  Bitcult.Faith

We all know that Church can not invest in cryptocurrency for the sake of getting money.

Why not?  Are you aware of the wealth that churches have, and of the investments they make in other asset classes?

The pretense here that money has nothing to do with religion has encouraged me to update my cult’s tithing address.  For too long have I lived as if under genuine vows of poverty!  Hark, a vision:  The god of Bitcoin wants me to have some more of those bitcoins.  To fulfill this divine commandment, you must tithe only 10% of your income.

Money is, after all, one of the major purposes of religion.  Religion is the best business on Earth!  Perhaps I have sinned as a businessman, by never having sufficient greed.  But I do understand religion.  How should I best please divinity in a religion about money?  Should I preach about money, but not practice it?  Forsooth, an it be so, the god of Bitcoin may condemn me as a hypocrite!

I said it in 2017:

Most importantly, as a cult leader, I have the prerogative of taking advantage of my adoring followers financially (and the attractive female followers in other ways).

All hail the god of Bitcoin.


I would be open to agreeing with their intentions only if I don't know that these churches are also filled with corruption to their core. There is a local church here in the Philippines that is aggressively asking for tithes every month, like 10% of their salary. They made beautiful churches and did impressive projects, but to see that their leaders and figureheads are rolling with luxury cars and can afford houses worth millions, while their followers are living in poverty is something that offed me a lot. Also, religious teachings often always ask their followers to live frugally and just be a good person, but apparently the figureheads are exempted from this rule Cheesy

Good idea. Cheesy

For the record, I drafted the above about a 10% tithe on 2 August, when I updated my cult’s page—before you wrote this.  10% is a traditional tithe.
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August 07, 2022, 04:29:21 PM
#58
I would be open to agreeing with their intentions only if I don't know that these churches are also filled with corruption to their core. There is a local church here in the Philippines that is aggressively asking for tithes every month, like 10% of their salary. They made beautiful churches and did impressive projects, but to see that their leaders and figureheads are rolling with luxury cars and can afford houses worth millions, while their followers are living in poverty is something that offed me a lot. Also, religious teachings often always ask their followers to live frugally and just be a good person, but apparently the figureheads are exempted from this rule Cheesy

It's good that they're trying to learn crypto, but IMO, religious sects should not engage in financial matters that much, and let other people handle it for them to keep their dignity and to follow their teachings like what they have on their books.
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August 07, 2022, 04:20:19 PM
#57
I couldn’t imagine my church having any sort of connection to Bitcoin. That’s a very odd pairing to me. I could maybe see them accepting Bitcoin donations but discussing it in church seems a bit much. If people are interested though and the knowledge is there, seems like sharing it is a good idea. I’d just hate to see this take people down a path where churches are pumping altcoins to try and bring in additional funds.
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August 07, 2022, 10:52:00 AM
#56
Bitcoin is open-source secure technology that functions as a decentralized currency on the internet for millions of people for over a decade. This is more about decentralization than encryption. Some forms of crypto use their encryption to conceal centralization as in scamcoins right? Let's face it, a working virtual currency is a very big deal for our internet age. Not just anyone could do it. Maybe the church has something to do with it? It is easier to put a camel through the eye of a needle, than to create an actually decentralized working currency for an information super highway Wink
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August 07, 2022, 10:43:11 AM
#55
the pastor got a professional to train congregants on crypto. While boasting that such an opportunity can't be got anywhere

There are things needed to be clarified in other to avoid a second thought from people, i think using the word church here looks odd to me from your topic saying "crypto in church" i think this is wrong, first the reason been that you could have stated that a clergy man organises a crypto class, because saying crypto is being taught in church is wrong and i totally disaggree with that because it can compromise the standard and purpose of what the church stands for, another reason why i will stand against your topic is because you're making two wrong steps, first is posting about crypto on bitcoin discussion board, you could have use the word bitcoin or secondly make your post on altcoins discussion,  and talking about cryptos in general is a pool of shitcoins except for bitcoin.

I don't know how you arrived at all these you said. But I can say that you are the one thatvis wrong here and not the op.
Crypto is a new form of money and investment, how does it contradict anything if it's been taught in church. The church collects tithe and if I insist that I will pay my tithe with crypto, I know the church will give me an address.
If church organises seminars for other things  crypto shouldn't be a different.

When one use the word cryptocurrency doesn't mean it belongs to altcoins. Whether I use bitcoin or cryptocurrency, we all understand. The king is not in battle with anyone, he is bitcoin and he is the king of cryptocurrency and so he is also cryptocurrency.
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August 07, 2022, 10:14:11 AM
#54
I want ask what is the essence of title the caution of this crypto in church. Basically the cryptocurrency don't have to do with religion. Is it that you are advertising the pathways of cryptocurrency through religion? I want to really know the narrative of this text way of impacting knowledge or educating offspring who yet to adventure into cryptocurrency. We all know that Church can not invest in cryptocurrency for the sake of getting money.
what is certain is that you are right mate, that there is no correlation between the church and crypto, because it is clear that the church is limited by rules that do not allow any investment, including crypto.
because the church was raised with the help of offerings from its congregation, so that the church does not need crypto, the church has been able to meet itself from the help of the congregation who always pays attention to all their needs.
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August 02, 2022, 03:12:44 PM
#53

If this is all about bitcoin, a more than a welcome idea, people will get to know bitcoin even if they don't have the means to buy it now, the awareness will expose people to know that there is an alternative to their fiat money and nobody can restrict them when they want to use it but my problem with this kind of gathering is that they wouldn't tell them the necessary things they need to hear. I will be more than happy if they will tell them how their privacy is preserved to at least a bearest minimum, but you may be disappointed that among them, someone is there that prefers a PIE shitcoin to bitcoin because of what they read online.
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August 02, 2022, 02:42:37 PM
#52
I want ask what is the essence of title the caution of this crypto in church. Basically the cryptocurrency don't have to do with religion. Is it that you are advertising the pathways of cryptocurrency through religion? I want to really know the narrative of this text way of impacting knowledge or educating offspring who yet to adventure into cryptocurrency. We all know that Church can not invest in cryptocurrency for the sake of getting money.
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August 02, 2022, 01:51:38 PM
#51
It's good religious people are adopting and learning about cryptocurrency, but the church isn't the appropriate place for this kind of apprenticeship. The preacher can incentive his community to persue wealthy and to thrive in life through Holy Bible, but can't mix religion with trading lessons.

For me it actually looks dangerous because his religious authority position can be misunderstood and have its meaning and purpose subverted. As we know, many crypto gurus attempt to impress the audience in order to profit over common people.

Unfortunatelly, in religious environments it's not different. There are many false prophets lurking around!
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August 02, 2022, 11:39:34 AM
#50
Teaching about cryptocurrency is good, because there are so many people who doesn't have awareness about the existence of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. Guiding them to invest and profit too is good, but the same needs to be allowed on their personal interest. Because, with the learning he/she had through the session they should know decide whether to invest or not.
Some churches believe that cryptocurrency is bad, using it will not give you any good and it will be bad for your existence, that's just because they knew bitcoin in a bad way, they just need to be informed and we need to give them some knowledge that bitcoin and other alts are very good for the economy and we need to go with the flow of the technology, innovation is needed in this country.
there are still many religious leaders, both in Christianity and other religions, who have not fully explored and know crypto well, so it's only natural that there will be rejection, maybe even more extreme than just an appeal.

you may be right that there may be some churches that don't recommend anything crypto related.
the church should not need to interfere in whatever its people do in detail, the most important thing is information in general about the good and bad about what their people will do and not go into detail with the appeal about crypto.

because if it is detailed, it can be ascertained that there can be a wrong appeal because crypto can be good and it doesn't just depend on who does it.
so investing in crypto if it is run well it can provide benefits for those who do it without having to do something that is prohibited.
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August 01, 2022, 09:52:59 AM
#49
The pastor got a professional to train congregants on crypto. While boasting that such an opportunity can't be got anywhere,

Does this look like  a plus to the crypto community?    
This is absolutely a great job done by the pastor and the professional, teaching the congregation about the basic key importance and knowledge of Bitcoin. I just wish the pastor was a member of the forum, because he would have definitely gotten 5 merits from me for such wonderful job well done. Because this is actually the kind of pastors we need now in this current hardship, a one that will give you update on how to be financially free here on Earth while he is preparing you to make heaven. It will likely reduce the rate of poverty in some countries.
I mean it's not a bad thing that's true, but are we talking about something that should be done by a priest? Don't get me wrong, anyone can do whatever they want personally, but when you have a job as a priest then you are responsible for something else other than people's money.

So if I should ask, Who is a priest? A priest is the spiritual father of the congregation, the one who intercedes on behave of the people to God and responsible for our spiritual well bring. So to me I see nothing wrong with a priest organizing a crypto class with his congregation to educate them on the new current trending topic of discussion @ "cryptocurrency".. Because I have seen churches who organize seminars on health talks whereby a Medical doctor is being invited to educate the congregation about healthy living at home on how to take proper care of there body, eat healthy food and best ways to prevent oneself from most common illnesses (HIV AIDS, Breast cancer, Kidney failure). And I have also seen churches who organize seminars on security, i.e how to be security conscious in the society. And I have also seen churches who organize seminars on skill acquisition and e.t.c.   So how then is it bad for a priest to organize seminars on cryptocurrency, a trending topic that has been a talk of the Town for the past 7-12years now, an have made many millionaire within a short while?.
So as long as the priest only educate the people, while they make the decision to either further or not, I clearly see nothing wrong with that
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August 01, 2022, 09:24:36 AM
#48
Doesn't it say somewhere about the return of the messiah being a big surprise that most won't see coming? Like lightning over our heads, or a second sun moving east to west in the sky above? Like a thief in the night, when we least expect it? Maybe it's the Lightning network Tongue

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August 01, 2022, 09:07:43 AM
#47
Does this look like  a plus to the crypto community?   

Imo, this is a plus to the crypto community and Bitcoin to be precise because in every institution that teaches about cryptocurrency the main focus is always Bitcoin because Bitcoin is the oldest and most accepted cryptocurrency.  The information given to the church members by the clergyman will help to encourage more people to worship in that particular church center because once the people who have been taught about the usefulness of Bitcoin and the financial freedom that it brings start practicing and enjoying the financial liberty in Bitcoin, they will spread the good news to others and more people will see more reasons to welcome Bitcoin as a means of their transaction and Bitcoin will continue to gain more popularity.
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July 31, 2022, 10:27:57 PM
#46
If only a few words spoken by the speaker because it has something to do with bitcoin or crypto and technology are discussed, I think it doesn't matter as long as there is no solicitation or incitement and the lecture is entirely about crypto or bitcoin.
because holy places like church or other is not the right place, unless you are talking about it in private or seminar which clearly knows what to talk about.
but as long as it's not misleading I think it's good and for the good of the people who hear it but explaining crypto or bitcoin is not as easy and fast as we think and must be at the right time and place and also with the right person.
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July 31, 2022, 09:42:58 PM
#45
Bitcoin is for everybody, so—sure, it’s good for churches.  Bitcoin is permissionless, so even Satan himself couldn’t censor their transactions.

I will note that religion has been in Bitcoin for a long time:  bitcult.faith


I don't like the idea of mixing religion with anything at all - politics, finance, educations, science. [...] Religious leaders shouldn't tell people how to live every aspect of their lives, its a recipe for disaster and a large number of wars and conflicts in the world stem from this to this day.

That is a repudiation of the whole concept of religion.

I am not quite defending religion here; and I am definitely not defending Christianity.  As to the latter, I agree with Nietzsche, “Ich verurteile das Christentum, ich erhebe gegen die christliche Kirche die furchtbarste aller Anklagen, die je ein Ankläger in den Mund genommen hat.  Sie ist mir die höchste aller denkbaren Korruptionen, sie hat den Willen zur letzten auch nur möglichen Korruption gehabt.”

However, I recognize that to be logically consistent and arguably sincere, religionists must take religion seriously.  A religion which is disconnected from “politics, finance, educations, science”, generally unimportant, and irrelevant to most aspects of a person’s life, is not a religion in any meaningful sense of the word.

To profess atheism is to proclaim that there are no gods.  To preach that religion should be rendered practically meaningless is to proclaim that even if there are any gods, they should be slapped in the face.

(Compare and contrast the commonplace proposition of liberal religionists who say that it doesn’t matter what you believe, as long as you believe in something of a mystical nature.  That is not only a repudiation of the concept of religion, but also a denial of the concept of truth; and it is to apotheosize irrationality.)

I can easily imagine a pastor shilling for some ICO or shitcoin for their personal profit. Maybe it even already happened.

Given the profitability of selling salvation, I would not be surprised.  But I think they will find it better to stick with Bitcoin.
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July 31, 2022, 07:03:39 PM
#44
I am of catholic religion, and something that I believe is that anyone who says that he needs money in the name of God is wrong, GOD does not want money, only that people accept it in their hearts, those priests or pastors who proclaim that they give their a tithe of a % of what they earn is for themselves, for God, to reach him you don't need money, I think that one of the things that should never be mixed is religion + money and politics, I think that's worse combination, it is much better than faith and what has to do with God is with God, the rest such as money should not be in agreement there.
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#43
Focus less on the reward/profit/money and more on it's principles & tech , which is expected to help the church be independent of evil system during the reign of global tyranny, persecution of the church, mass exodus from the system and possibly the enforcement of Revelation 13:17. This is why it's very important to always stick to True Cryptocurrency such as Bitcoin with its strong principles. If you choose the fake or benefits from them, you may be left behind. So becareful what you choose. Love of money is root of all evil
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July 24, 2022, 05:10:41 PM
#42
Judging for the few news I have seen about the position of some churches on Bitcoin here in South America, I'd say some churches/religion organizations value things like "trust" and "faith" greatly.

I recall an article I shared when I was new here in Bitcointalk about a pastor who openly said that Bitcoin was the mark of the beast or something like it, because trust was a Christian value and a trustless currency/system can't be Chirstian, for example.

So it depends on the branch of one's religion or even the personal opinion of one's pastor when comes to the "spiritual impact" Bitcoin has over us, it seems.

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July 24, 2022, 05:04:57 PM
#41
Well I may say it is a plus and  a part of the cypto currency awareness orientations that is going on in the world now. Really most religious preachers preached against crypto currencies base on ignorant while those religious leaders that understand how crpto currency works, accept it with a good faith. This campaign is not a one man job but for all the cypto currency users because we are trying to use crypto currency as the major coin to exchange goods and services, so if anyone is trying his or her best to propagate the currency, we should encourage the person. And I also believe that the pastor of the church will accept bitcoin in the offering and tithe box or probably he might open tithe or offering wallet in the church to promote the coin.

That not withstanding, We should also remember that not all the pastor in the alter are genuine pastors oh. Because by the right the pastor that the OP mentioned not supposed to teach people crypto currency in the church. He would have organized it outside the church. Now if this story is really true, the so called has blaspheme the church. That is, people will call that as a investment platform. As Christians, we can only give crypto testimonies and thanksgiving in the church but not using the church auditorium as a seminar center.
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July 24, 2022, 04:44:28 PM
#40
Teaching about cryptocurrency is good, because there are so many people who doesn't have awareness about the existence of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. Guiding them to invest and profit too is good, but the same needs to be allowed on their personal interest. Because, with the learning he/she had through the session they should know decide whether to invest or not.
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July 24, 2022, 04:41:47 PM
#39
This is happening in some places sun valley is a very small growing number of  churches in America that are really accepting online donations through cryptocurrencies.so in future it will be a great ideas in other continents even in future crypto-christianity will be the secret practice of Christianity  Wink

well bitcoin is a currency that has already reached a worldwide level of acceptance, that's why churches can no longer ignore bitcoin, since there's nothing wrong with someone donating bitcoin to a church. now churches will have to create conditions for people to make bitcoin donations. One thing I've been asking myself:

Where do these church donations go?

anyway it seems that this is a question that would bother me if i asked in church
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July 24, 2022, 04:24:40 PM
#38
The pastor got a professional to train congregants on crypto. While boasting that such an opportunity can't be got anywhere,

Does this look like  a plus to the crypto community?    
This is absolutely a great job done by the pastor and the professional, teaching the congregation about the basic key importance and knowledge of Bitcoin. I just wish the pastor was a member of the forum, because he would have definitely gotten 5 merits from me for such wonderful job well done. Because this is actually the kind of pastors we need now in this current hardship, a one that will give you update on how to be financially free here on Earth while he is preparing you to make heaven. It will likely reduce the rate of poverty in some countries.
I mean it's not a bad thing that's true, but are we talking about something that should be done by a priest? Don't get me wrong, anyone can do whatever they want personally, but when you have a job as a priest then you are responsible for something else other than people's money.

If you talk about crypto like it's good or bad, doesn't matter, that means as a priest you have a big chance to influence people and that's not really an easy thing to do, I would be scared to do something like this if I had that kind of power. He could literally cause people to buy millions of bitcoins just because he said it compared to if I said it, and that would be the scary part, what if they lose money?
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July 24, 2022, 09:33:17 AM
#37
This may look like weird to me but whatever since this will expand the adoption of Bitcoin once people know how to use crypto currency such as Bitcoin. Although, I'm having a doubt about the people who teach about crypto inside the church or maybe they don't just have a room to start on how to spread awareness about the crypto.
It looks like the Church is well aware about the need of cryptocurrency and the possible ways through which one can profit. It have realised the fact, if people can profit then automatically the church can benefit out of the cryptocurrency adoption. Religious institution participation into the awareness program is simply a positive approach on bitcoin usage.
I'm starting to believe that churches are like businesses since it may seem look that way considering they now share and preach things beyond the churches knowledge. Well, whatever I've seen worse than this and everything seems to be happening in all kinds of stuff in crypto space and as long as this will benefit the Bitcoin community then I am not against with it. I'll wait what the media would do when they know this kind of stuff.
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July 24, 2022, 05:41:54 AM
#36
This is happening in some places sun valley is a very small growing number of  churches in America that are really accepting online donations through cryptocurrencies.so in future it will be a great ideas in other continents even in future crypto-christianity will be the secret practice of Christianity  Wink

Things like this are understandable because with the wide popularity of cryptocurrencies nowadays, churches will find some way to get their hands on this kind of opportunity where they give their people options to donate with their crypto assets. Anyway, we expect to see more of this in the future because it will gonna spread once they saw it works well and they gathered a huge amount of money from it. they will make their own version and maybe they make rules out of it.
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July 24, 2022, 05:15:11 AM
#35
NG is the same place where you have preachers who claim to exorcise demons from people with sexual penetration, and where there's a famous pastor who apparently has God's direct phone number and speaks to him with a mobile phone.

Oh but that's not just NG, almost every place where religion is a fervour, you have all kinds of magic men and prophets claiming all kinds of things.

They're not about to leave Bitcoin alone.
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July 24, 2022, 02:33:07 AM
#34
The pastor got a professional to train congregants on crypto. While boasting that such an opportunity can't be got anywhere,

Does this look like  a plus to the crypto community?    

This is absolutely a great job done by the pastor and the professional, teaching the congregation about the basic key importance and knowledge of Bitcoin. I just wish the pastor was a member of the forum, because he would have definitely gotten 5 merits from me for such wonderful job well done. Because this is actually the kind of pastors we need now in this current hardship, a one that will give you update on how to be financially free here on Earth while he is preparing you to make heaven. It will likely reduce the rate of poverty in some countries.
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July 24, 2022, 01:48:38 AM
#33
Does this look like  a plus to the crypto community?   
Of course, this is an added value and special attention for religious people towards Crypto/digital currency.

Maybe in this case we should understand that every believer has a Bible and his own understanding of the use of crypto, I remember the refusal of donations by the (Russian Orthodox Church) in the form of crypto, they believe in crypto usury, for that they do not want to accept donations in the form of crypto, let alone to educate and teach them.

However, in contrast to the understanding of Christians, they do not find a specific prohibition in the Bible about crypto, but they have an understanding of what can be done and what cannot be done, bottom line: consider the good and the bad for the church community, family and others.

I believe what christians/churches do, they believe crypto is technology, it is an attitude and motivation for pastors and including people who believe crypto brings good for them in investing, depending on their attitude and motivation to do so, I think that's a reasonable thing considering the age of technology agnostic.
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July 24, 2022, 12:49:52 AM
#32
Cryptocurrencies are money and money is the root of all evil, according to almost every religion.
I have nothing against some pastor educating it's people about the risks of dealing with cryptocurrency trading and investing.
However, this looks really cringe, if you ask me.  Grin The church is definitely the wrong place to teach people how to invest and trade.
Anyway, perhaps some protestant TV evangelists might adopt cryptocurrency donations. This doesn't seem like a wrong approach(if the coins are spent for a good cause). The problem is that most TV evangelists are greedy fanatics, who want to brainwash as many people as possible and make more money out of them.
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July 24, 2022, 12:38:57 AM
#31
According to the source:
The video was captioned, "Crypto training. Proverbs 14:23In all toil there is profit, but mere talk tends only to poverty.'' According to the netizen who shared the clip, the pastor got a professional to train congregants on crypto. While boasting that such an opportunity can't be got anywhere, the netizen expressed joy that 'kingdom wealth is on the way.' In the clip, a projector is seen displaying a crypto trading chart while people listened.
My concern is that I hope that the Pastor did not try to sell crypto currency to his members as a get-rich-quick scheme. I also hope the so-called crypto professional is actually a professional who is teaching them first about bitcoin and then the dangers of investing in shitcoins.

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Does this look like a plus to the crypto community?
Yes, I think this is a plus for the crypto community. The awareness would go a long way in ensuring both a proper understanding of the crypto ecosystem, it's adoption and what's coming. I must confess that I like what I have been reading lately from folks teaching school kids, to folks teaching their colleagues at work and now a church? This is awesome.
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July 23, 2022, 10:42:11 PM
#30
LOL! This is funny! But, yeah, it must be a plus. Any effort which seeks to inform others about Bitcoin must be a plus to the community, although I have reservations on how religion is being used here for purposes which are apparently outside the realm of spirituality or morals.

If this is being conducted within a service or an official ceremony, I think this is misplaced. And to promote Bitcoin with a passage from the Bible is something that I personally don't find right. God probably doesn't care about Bitcoin. This is purely man's business.
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July 23, 2022, 06:35:20 PM
#29
This may look like weird to me but whatever since this will expand the adoption of Bitcoin once people know how to use crypto currency such as Bitcoin. Although, I'm having a doubt about the people who teach about crypto inside the church or maybe they don't just have a room to start on how to spread awareness about the crypto.
It looks like the Church is well aware about the need of cryptocurrency and the possible ways through which one can profit. It have realised the fact, if people can profit then automatically the church can benefit out of the cryptocurrency adoption. Religious institution participation into the awareness program is simply a positive approach on bitcoin usage.
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July 23, 2022, 06:27:48 PM
#28
This may look like weird to me but whatever since this will expand the adoption of Bitcoin once people know how to use crypto currency such as Bitcoin. Although, I'm having a doubt about the people who teach about crypto inside the church or maybe they don't just have a room to start on how to spread awareness about the crypto.

I hope there's no secret agenda in this when teaching those people because usually when there's something like money involve everything will change in the end.
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July 23, 2022, 06:25:50 PM
#27
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Does this look like  a plus to the crypto community?   
Well it is good news and we are looking for news like this daily.
This is not new in my own opinion because I have heard this before when the church accepts bitcoin for donation and now they are educating those young children about bitcoin which is a perfect way to educate them regarding the financial system and how it will work if this is in a decentralized way and that is bitcoin. We hope that other churches will do the same but I think it is good if the churches not only focus on bible history, it should be also on financial matters or a livelihood program.
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July 23, 2022, 05:37:31 PM
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I mean it would be a plus, yes but it is kinda bizarre to have crypto which is mostly technical a part of agenda in a church. Almost in those times, I usually expect songs to be played and having crypto being talked about so sudden is kind of....... sudden.
Regardless I respect that crypto is getting attention to any groups out there even religious ones. I don't see any  point making news about it, since surely in other groups have been already doing the same (e.g. workplace).
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July 23, 2022, 05:26:49 PM
#25
Churches have a great deal of influence over their constituents to the point that they blindly follow their leaders despite morality and logic is not aligned with our values. But the fact that this church advocates the use of cryptocurrencies is quite alarming since as far I know, they tend to teach about living a simple life.

Though that May be the case, this definitely news that I did not expect; something that peopleabd churches should also follow.
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July 23, 2022, 04:45:38 PM
#24
That's odd for me, it shouldn't be the church conducting that training. But, if that's the pastor's thinking, I guess he's into money and basically should prioritize other things than it like the gospel itself and just leave works like this to those professionals and enthusiasts that likes to conducts meeting and seminars related to crypto or, maybe he's also an enthusiast but that's off of his scope as a pastor. And with technology like blockchain and bitcoin, it can really be in lined with a lot of bible verses.
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July 23, 2022, 04:12:26 PM
#23
It seems the pastor of that church has forgotten the 1st commandment and Jesus reaction to Money Changers in the Church.
Reference source : King James Bible
If churches conduct.....
Business Seminars
Marriage Seminars
Career Seminars etc. for their members, I personally think a crypto Seminar is not out of place, but then, the motive should be clear and well aligned with the word of God, where problem will arise is if the pastor in question starts using this as a business for himself, that is if he leaves what he is called to preach and start referring his congregants to different crypto investments platforms in a bid to make money through referral bonuses.
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July 23, 2022, 03:56:30 PM
#22
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The video was captioned, "Crypto training. Proverbs 14:23In all toil there is profit, but mere talk tends only to poverty.'' According to the netizen who shared the clip, the pastor got a professional to train congregants on crypto. While boasting that such an opportunity can't be got anywhere, the netizen expressed joy that 'kingdom wealth is on the way.' In the clip, a projector is seen displaying a crypto trading chart while people listened.
So at the end of the day he can ask donations in cryptocurrency  Cheesy Tongue. I am not against learning about new things but the reason why people follow religion is to have peace of mind and majority are there to exploit that and then seek their donations and have a luxury life on their own. So i hate all those money mongering religious people who are after money exploiting the weakness of innocent people Wink.
^ Lol.
This is possible that as we know most churches now asking for donations even online process.
Educating people is not bad at all and I think the intention of the pastor was good for their youth but the problem is if they exploit this by for asking money in the name of their church through cryptocurrency which is not good for me. However, this will bring a positive impact on the BTC community, it belongs to the increasing adoption because the awareness has been spread. Educating people is not bad at all and we hope in a right way not misleading them into many scam projects.
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July 23, 2022, 03:48:55 PM
#21
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The video was captioned, "Crypto training. Proverbs 14:23In all toil there is profit, but mere talk tends only to poverty.'' According to the netizen who shared the clip, the pastor got a professional to train congregants on crypto. While boasting that such an opportunity can't be got anywhere, the netizen expressed joy that 'kingdom wealth is on the way.' In the clip, a projector is seen displaying a crypto trading chart while people listened.
So at the end of the day he can ask donations in cryptocurrency  Cheesy Tongue. I am not against learning about new things but the reason why people follow religion is to have peace of mind and majority are there to exploit that and then seek their donations and have a luxury life on their own. So i hate all those money mongering religious people who are after money exploiting the weakness of innocent people Wink.
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July 23, 2022, 03:47:35 PM
#20
The case is still individual and cannot be generalized.
I prefer people to follow their investment advice based on their own convictions and not because of religious saying that may acquire false sanctity.
In general, if these individuals learn to use Bitcoin wisely, it may change the lives of some people or help improve them.

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July 23, 2022, 03:39:36 PM
#19
Now if the church use it, they'll be no tax exemption on their side, eh? Apart from that I think other conservative churches/religion wouldn't let their ideas be mixed with the evolution of man made technologies especially a lot of part in the Asian continent.
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July 23, 2022, 03:25:21 PM
#18
It seems the pastor of that church has forgotten the 1st commandment and Jesus reaction to Money Changers in the Church.
Reference source : King James Bible
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1. You shall have no other gods before Me

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And Jesus went into the temple of God,
and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple,
and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves
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July 23, 2022, 03:14:40 PM
#17
Cryptocurrency as a digit asset based currency is on a  daily gradually gaining the widespread acceptance as expected, looking at 2010 compared to this day 2022 the awareness and engagement has been tremendous and it's quite a welcome development despite the ban placed on it by few governments.

I came across a video that has made social media talking which shows how a crypto class was conducted by a church for it's members to be educated about the knowledge of cryptocurrency.

According to the source:
The video was captioned, "Crypto training. Proverbs 14:23In all toil there is profit, but mere talk tends only to poverty.'' According to the netizen who shared the clip, the pastor got a professional to train congregants on crypto. While boasting that such an opportunity can't be got anywhere, the netizen expressed joy that 'kingdom wealth is on the way.' In the clip, a projector is seen displaying a crypto trading chart while people listened.


https://www.legit.ng/people/1478160-crypto-chuch-pastor-tutor-train-members-crypto-church-video-stirs-reactions-social-media

Does this look like  a plus to the crypto community?   
of course it helps, anywhere bitcoin or crypto in general is being talked about in a positive way to an audience or a group of people, it helps spreading awareness about it and more people are likely to join the wave of crypto, Church is kind of a weird place to do it, but if it positively affect it then why not.
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July 23, 2022, 02:02:21 PM
#16
I don't like the idea of mixing religion with anything at all - politics, finance, educations, science. I can easily imagine a pastor shilling for some ICO or shitcoin for their personal profit. Maybe it even already happened. Religious leaders shouldn't tell people how to live every aspect of their lives, its a recipe for disaster and a large number of wars and conflicts in the world stem from this to this day.
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July 23, 2022, 01:39:17 PM
#15
Well This is a definite plus in crypto community. It's nice to see some churches is spreading words about cryptocurrency. I'm sure that non-crypto users who read the article why the church is being involved in crypto. Surely their curiosity will be triggered and there's a high chance that they themselves will be involved in cryptocurrency by doing research and knowing how it works.

I've remembered some parody coins about religion before, As far as I remember it was called hesucrypto, It's obviously a shitcoin but it got a lot of noise in social media. It was such a fun that someone created that kind of parody coin.
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July 23, 2022, 01:05:10 PM
#14
I like it very much that religion is finally starting to look clear into cryptocurrencies.I heard some speeches from the pastor here when I used to go to church every Sunday (just for facade because where I live in the neighbor are good Christians,I am a gambler) where he clearly accused people mining cryptocurrencies that are interfering in our normal lives as they don't like to work but are mining at a large scale so they can quit their job.It is the same stance that unfortunately continues here as I hear the Sunday speech in TV now.

So it is a really great move forward which of course is good in general seeing churches starting to embrace cryptocurrencies.
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July 23, 2022, 12:56:20 PM
#13
This is honestly weird since they are projecting crypto and wealth together, i do know that some people do follow the church by heart and thus they would try and buy the crypto without any further knowledge but it's great to see that the church did something and educated the people about it first but I do think that it's weird when you mix the words of God according to them and also cryptocurrencies as well, this might be wrongly interpreted by some people since they can generally take it as " a gift from God". " God is punishing us - when the price is down" things like that, it's best to understand that you do make these decisions yourself and thus should get more knowledge on cryptos more or so Church at least tried to do something.
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July 23, 2022, 12:43:21 PM
#12
Well, church teaching their followers how to make more money, so they could give back to the church. Holy Spirit NFT anyone? Cheesy Jokes aside, I aplaud any education, nit just crypto but economic and monetary in general. So that's what Adam Smith was refering to when he was talking about the invisible hand of the market XD
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July 23, 2022, 12:27:36 PM
#11
It helps to spread awareness, especially among youth who are very curious about all things that they encountered.
Though this isn't new even churches accept Bitcoin as a donation, I have read several articles that some churches do accept Bitcoin as a donation for the faster-accumulating funds.

Not bad at all, the intention of the Pastor was good and it really help both the community and them to improve their skills in crypto.
I have doubt that this Pastor is also a crypto lover which is he loves to share his knowledge with someone which is we know Pastor or Priest are good at giving advice.


I'm sure that the pastor has witnessed how crypto could change lives and as a leader, his intention is to share and spread the good news about it to his congregation. I hope that every church would have this kind of awareness because, to be honest, some religions link cryptocurrency to 666 which sounds crazy. I really wish that more churches would be open to crypto adaptions and see it as a key to financial freedom in the future.
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July 23, 2022, 10:45:28 AM
#10
It helps to spread awareness, especially among youth who are very curious about all things that they encountered.
Though this isn't new even churches accept Bitcoin as a donation, I have read several articles that some churches do accept Bitcoin as a donation for the faster-accumulating funds.

Not bad at all, the intention of the Pastor was good and it really help both the community and them to improve their skills in crypto.
I have doubt that this Pastor is also a crypto lover which is he loves to share his knowledge with someone which is we know Pastor or Priest are good at giving advice.
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July 23, 2022, 10:41:41 AM
#9
the pastor got a professional to train congregants on crypto. While boasting that such an opportunity can't be got anywhere

There are things needed to be clarified in other to avoid a second thought from people, i think using the word church here looks odd to me from your topic saying "crypto in church" i think this is wrong, first the reason been that you could have stated that a clergy man organises a crypto class, because saying crypto is being taught in church is wrong and i totally disaggree with that because it can compromise the standard and purpose of what the church stands for, another reason why i will stand against your topic is because you're making two wrong steps, first is posting about crypto on bitcoin discussion board, you could have use the word bitcoin or secondly make your post on altcoins discussion,  and talking about cryptos in general is a pool of shitcoins except for bitcoin.
First of all I appreciate your thoughtfulness in reminding me about where I was supposed to post my thread, but let me remind you that wherever and whenever cryptocurrency is mentioned the first thing that comes to mind of majority of people is Bitcoin before any alts could follow.

On the other hand my friend, whether clergyman or not, the whole truth is that the whole teaching took place in the Church, so I think you're just being too religious about the whole matter and rather diverting focus from the message the thread introduced to some irrelevance.
Thank you.
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July 23, 2022, 10:29:09 AM
#8
Call me crazy, but I have a wild suspicion that this "lesson" may have ended in a pitch of some kind. I have had several "lessons" myself.
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July 23, 2022, 10:01:37 AM
#7
While this looks bizarre, I think it's good that a church is doing a useful thing.
Your statement is contradictory, except if your use of "bizarre" doesn't correspond with its real meaning. Otherwise, one would observe that you praised the action of the church in organizing a crypto lesson for its congregation. Why call it bizarre then? Anyway, I believe the church is in order educating its members on current happenings around the world as it concerns financial awareness and uplift. The church shouldn't be heavenly bound that it forgets it's still on earth with all its earthly challenges. If the congregation is taught financial stuff and it prospers, the church prospers with it too, vice versa. It's a simple logic and the leadership of the church knows that.
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July 23, 2022, 09:53:31 AM
#6
the pastor got a professional to train congregants on crypto. While boasting that such an opportunity can't be got anywhere, the netizen expressed joy that 'kingdom wealth is on the way.' In the clip, a projector is seen displaying a crypto trading chart while people listened.
Does this look like a plus to the crypto community?   
The pastor teaching the church about Crypto (how to make money) in order to escape from being enslaved with poverty is a one.
Recently Just in my own story too, A pastor friend in my local church met me in the house that they're going to have a training section (an entrepreneurship week) for secondary school graduating students and other children in the Church, that he would like me to join and share my skills to the children as well,
So I told him that I only got a digital skills to share, that it's all about digital asset investment in Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency, I was a bit surprised when he said that is okay, that there are many students that will fit in that category and they're already on ground.When I got there and gave them lectures on Bitcoin, I was really shocked with how the children catched up and the pastor begged I should come back next time to complete the lecture.

 Bitcoin is money and money is used in the church, so if Bitcoin becomes the future of money as we hope, then even the church will make use of it.
This is how fast Bitcoin is growing.
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July 23, 2022, 09:42:22 AM
#5
Does this look like  a plus to the crypto community?   

Yes absolutely.
I mean we always encourage people who spread about Cryptos at various places. Really glad to see that the church has taken a great step.
Our main motive is to spread the news of Cryptos all over the nation.
Also if possible educate different people about cryptos and Bitcoins whenever possible. Moreover it’s also great that when people manage to hold their money in a decentralised manner.
Really appreciate everyone who took this initiative.
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July 23, 2022, 09:42:22 AM
#4
the pastor got a professional to train congregants on crypto. While boasting that such an opportunity can't be got anywhere

There are things needed to be clarified in other to avoid a second thought from people, i think using the word church here looks odd to me from your topic saying "crypto in church" i think this is wrong, first the reason been that you could have stated that a clergy man organises a crypto class, because saying crypto is being taught in church is wrong and i totally disaggree with that because it can compromise the standard and purpose of what the church stands for, another reason why i will stand against your topic is because you're making two wrong steps, first is posting about crypto on bitcoin discussion board, you could have use the word bitcoin or secondly make your post on altcoins discussion,  and talking about cryptos in general is a pool of shitcoins except for bitcoin.
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July 23, 2022, 09:18:37 AM
#3
...the pastor got a professional to train congregants on crypto.
This is wonderful to read and something that I wish other religious leaders can emulate instead of only being spiritual all the time which can get boring and scare some people especially the young ones from Church. If more churches emulate this and engage the youths more in activities like this that they see are contemporary and have physical benefits to them and their lives...More youths will not leave their churches and will find Christianity more practical and not boring.

Also the involvement by the church can also help change the minds of those extra religious person's who have never believed in crypto.
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July 23, 2022, 08:59:20 AM
#2
While this looks bizarre, I think it's good that a church is doing a useful thing. Historically, churches have been responsible for education in many places, so the mission of giving knowledge (and not just the knowledge regarding a specific religion) has been implemented by churches for a long time. That being said, we currently live in quite a different world, where there are plenty of schools and other education facilities. Also, while teaching about Bitcoin and blockchain would be good, I am not sure about trading specifically. Trading is something that can lead to losses of money, and no prayer will save people from that.
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July 23, 2022, 08:32:17 AM
#1
Cryptocurrency as a digit asset based currency is on a  daily gradually gaining the widespread acceptance as expected, looking at 2010 compared to this day 2022 the awareness and engagement has been tremendous and it's quite a welcome development despite the ban placed on it by few governments.

I came across a video that has made social media talking which shows how a crypto class was conducted by a church for it's members to be educated about the knowledge of cryptocurrency.

According to the source:
The video was captioned, "Crypto training. Proverbs 14:23In all toil there is profit, but mere talk tends only to poverty.'' According to the netizen who shared the clip, the pastor got a professional to train congregants on crypto. While boasting that such an opportunity can't be got anywhere, the netizen expressed joy that 'kingdom wealth is on the way.' In the clip, a projector is seen displaying a crypto trading chart while people listened.


https://www.legit.ng/people/1478160-crypto-chuch-pastor-tutor-train-members-crypto-church-video-stirs-reactions-social-media

Does this look like  a plus to the crypto community?   
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