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the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

the summary of what you have emphasized so far is based on understanding anyone who makes a research to know the consequences of what is doing cannot be a victim of loss in Trading so what I'm saying is that you cannot equate gambling with threading because both of them is differs so I know quite well not threading is something that is different from any other thing and for you to Excel in it you must have undergo a different research about trading so that is why it is necessary for making requirement in anything that you want to go into

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the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

I’m not sure about the gambling part, crypto investment is not different from gambling as well, it's just that the traditional investment gambling seems so obvious and if we look it from another angle, there are some part of crypto that are very risky, if there are more term to use for them as gambling, it will suite them better. Look at meme for instance, this tokens are nothing but gambling and yet people endorse it and see it as the next thing after Bitcoin, some people even believe some meme coin can become the next big thing in crypto.

Some altcoins do worse sometimes, they will launch a coin and after some days of hitting the all time, the next day the coin will collapsed as the team or some whales who hold more bags dump on people with few bags that bought later. I just think that crypto isn't matured yet to think it's bigger than to the traditional market that the government control because it has its own issues too.

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Quote from: lixer on June 18, 2024, 02:20:23 PM

It's true that the future of crypto will certainly be bright, although we also have to prepare for the worst case scenario to face it. Don't be lulled by high expectations, it's better to buy and forget about it, that way we will be able to hold it in the long term, and if the price is too high, there will be a lot of news, so we can harvest it. Don't gamble and have little patience

Indeed, the safest method for investing is to hold assets for the long term. This method is widely used by investors to get maximum results and requires extra patience in this case, there are always risks or scenarios that we cannot avoid. It's best before we invest to understand the risks first, if we are sure then you put your money into investment, choose assets that have good potential or fundamentals in this case. If you experience a fairly large decline, you already understand and are not too panicked about the fluctuating price of the investment.

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Quote from: Essential10 on June 14, 2024, 04:06:50 AM

Many people join business or different jobs to succeed in future life. But I think apart from these, cryptocurrency is currently a sector that will take you very fast in the future If you look at Bitcoin in crypto currency you will see that the price of Bitcoin is currently very high and has become as valuable as a gold, Bitcoin is likely to reach $100k by the end of next year or year. Look, no one is being forced here, it's their personal matter who to do or not, but I personally think Bitcoin investing should be a right venture in life, it's moving many people forward.

Yeah, cryptocurrencies providing a great opportunity for people to make their futures better by utilizing their money in the best way possible so that they can have as much value for their money as possible. That being said, it is also important for people to understand and acknowledge the risks involved in cryptocurrency investments because a lot of people don't know this and when they come to know, that's already late for them.

When it's their decision to decide whether they want to invest their money in cryptocurrencies or not then they should be aware of all the risks involved so that when they see their assets losing value after making an investment, they shouldn't be worried and should know that it is something normal.

Acknowledging the risk before investing is an indication of winning. When a person decides to invest it means that he understands fully what is this all about and that person takes the risk without a single doubt in his mind. Bitcoin is known for its profitability but still, we see some people remain doubtful and that is possibly because they don't get the idea of being volatile. This kind of thinking remains unless changing their views eliminating negative things to positivity. A lot of people misunderstood the situation and so until now, they remain skeptical about the meaningful benefits of having Bitcoin in the future.

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It's true that the future of crypto will certainly be bright, although we also have to prepare for the worst case scenario to face it. Don't be lulled by high expectations, it's better to buy and forget about it, that way we will be able to hold it in the long term, and if the price is too high, there will be a lot of news, so we can harvest it. Don't gamble and have little patience

That's right, most are expecting a lot with their holdings that they think of it that moves are gonna be like 1000x and more.
But they're not thinking at all, there are few that managed to earn with that but it's not gonna happen at all times.
Some are just lucky to sell at the peak and saw that happen.

That can happen if you do it in bitcoin, but with full awareness who dares to store today and carry it around as if they forgot and one day it will be picked up again?
When trading is captivating, maybe people will be more interested in trading it than keeping it long enough.

That's a little bit because the time used is also a little bit, let's say if 10 years back today you buy bitcoin then save it today you might be a billionaire today from bitcoin, and see if you buy ETH where ETH is still in a newborn state, maybe you will get a very large gain too, and that's how it works so you know exactly what kind of Holder it is, although it may end up having a risk also by losing value or losing the seed phrase.

It's very rare to see someone that really held Bitcoin 10 years ago or more. Because majority of them have sold already and they want to enjoy the patience they have exerted to holding it.
I know that there might be people that have been firm holding their Bitcoins for so long until today, but they don't want people to let it know.

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Quote from: lixer on June 18, 2024, 02:20:23 PM

It's true that the future of crypto will certainly be bright, although we also have to prepare for the worst case scenario to face it. Don't be lulled by high expectations, it's better to buy and forget about it, that way we will be able to hold it in the long term, and if the price is too high, there will be a lot of news, so we can harvest it. Don't gamble and have little patience

That's right, most are expecting a lot with their holdings that they think of it that moves are gonna be like 1000x and more.
But they're not thinking at all, there are few that managed to earn with that but it's not gonna happen at all times.
Some are just lucky to sell at the peak and saw that happen.

That can happen if you do it in bitcoin, but with full awareness who dares to store today and carry it around as if they forgot and one day it will be picked up again?
When trading is captivating, maybe people will be more interested in trading it than keeping it long enough.

That's a little bit because the time used is also a little bit, let's say if 10 years back today you buy bitcoin then save it today you might be a billionaire today from bitcoin, and see if you buy ETH where ETH is still in a newborn state, maybe you will get a very large gain too, and that's how it works so you know exactly what kind of Holder it is, although it may end up having a risk also by losing value or losing the seed phrase.

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Quote from: Essential10 on June 14, 2024, 04:06:50 AM

Many people join business or different jobs to succeed in future life. But I think apart from these, cryptocurrency is currently a sector that will take you very fast in the future If you look at Bitcoin in crypto currency you will see that the price of Bitcoin is currently very high and has become as valuable as a gold, Bitcoin is likely to reach $100k by the end of next year or year. Look, no one is being forced here, it's their personal matter who to do or not, but I personally think Bitcoin investing should be a right venture in life, it's moving many people forward.

Yeah, cryptocurrencies providing a great opportunity for people to make their futures better by utilizing their money in the best way possible so that they can have as much value for their money as possible. That being said, it is also important for people to understand and acknowledge the risks involved in cryptocurrency investments because a lot of people don't know this and when they come to know, that's already late for them.

When it's their decision to decide whether they want to invest their money in cryptocurrencies or not then they should be aware of all the risks involved so that when they see their assets losing value after making an investment, they shouldn't be worried and should know that it is something normal.

I guess losing or let's say dropping investments value even in other assets is normal, what's abnormal is that you end up panicking and sell your investments at a much lower value and see yourself a loser. Even crypto is very much alike, but as long as you never sell at a lower value compared than you bought it, you will never be at loss. Crypto could lead us into a bright future ahead, but investing at our own risk should always be prioritized.

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the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

I really this is nothing but a certainty but crypto has more work to do, in fact it's just starting because the traditional market isn't something that anything can overcome. The crypto market can go to become as high as many trillions or numbers after the trillions but a statement from those who controls the traditional market can drag that value down to some billions a day as crypto is volatile and traditional market can't be outshine.

I just think that crypto and the traditional market can coexist in harmony without any problems, they can both work together at one point without any problem and I think that's what is even happening already. The Blackrock is acting as a middle person for people who want to hold Bitcoin but don't want to hold it directly and they are also making Bitcoin and other altcoins becomes more demanding. If other people like Vanguard join the force, crypto will grow big that where it is now.

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Quote from: bitcoin_mining on June 20, 2024, 11:25:31 AM

it's better to buy and forget about it, that way we will be able to hold it in the long term, and if the price is too high, there will be a lot of news, so we can harvest it. Don't gamble and have little patience

I'm sure what you mean by buying and forgetting is just a figure of speech, but don't completely forget about it because you have to look at the condition of the coins you buy by paying attention to market movements, because the crypto market is something that is difficult to predict, today it can look good but in a short time in the opposite direction because there are conditions that influence it.

If you invest in crypto, you can't invest with the thought that you will definitely get a lot of money in the future. No matter where you invest your money, your money remains somewhat at risk and investing somewhere does not guarantee that you will get a lot of profit in the future if you invest there. It is only possibility and if we can make this possibility by risking money then in future we may get good amount of money profit from such investment. In reality there are businesses but people lose a lot of money because the business doesn't succeed as planned as they started the business but they keep trying so that their business is in a strong position. We also have to wait and expect good things to come

Unrealized profits are not profits, more or less like that, because many traders or holders think they have made a profit because they see their portfolio rising by tens or hundreds of percent, but if they haven't taken a profit then it is still at risk considering that the cryptocurrency market can turn around quickly without us being able to prevent it because There are many people involved to influence the market according to their wishes, so traders or holders must remember to take profits, not just be happy to see their assets rise.

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People who doubted this so far regretted it, and there are still people who claim "ok it made profit for a lot of people so far, but not anymore in the future!" and think that it's all done. Reality is that we are going to keep making some profit over and over again, it will not end at all. I understand the logic, and I understand how it looks but I have to say it is not going to happen at all.

We should realize that things going to be quite difficult to overcome if you do not know what you are doing, the best way to go about the situation would be just realizing that you are going to keep making money, it will not end anytime soon at all. People should see that as a positive thing, because the future is still quite bright for bitcoin.

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Quote from: Essential10 on June 14, 2024, 04:06:50 AM

Many people join business or different jobs to succeed in future life. But I think apart from these, cryptocurrency is currently a sector that will take you very fast in the future If you look at Bitcoin in crypto currency you will see that the price of Bitcoin is currently very high and has become as valuable as a gold, Bitcoin is likely to reach $100k by the end of next year or year. Look, no one is being forced here, it's their personal matter who to do or not, but I personally think Bitcoin investing should be a right venture in life, it's moving many people forward.

You know for a fact that if you have a lot of money and you can see and understand this Bitcoin or cryptocurrency, it will be an advantage for you to invest a large amount and then hold it for this period and sell it during the actual rally of Bitcoin until the ATH reaches its target in this period of bull run.

But if you are not a rich person, or let's just say that you are in the right condition at the level of an individual, it will not be easy for us to accumulate a lot of crypto because there are also many things that must be considered so that the capital that we will use is not wasted. in investing here in crypto assets.

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Quote from: stadus on June 14, 2024, 07:55:44 AM

It's true that the future of crypto will certainly be bright, although we also have to prepare for the worst case scenario to face it. Don't be lulled by high expectations, it's better to buy and forget about it, that way we will be able to hold it in the long term, and if the price is too high, there will be a lot of news, so we can harvest it. Don't gamble and have little patience

That's right, most are expecting a lot with their holdings that they think of it that moves are gonna be like 1000x and more.
But they're not thinking at all, there are few that managed to earn with that but it's not gonna happen at all times.
Some are just lucky to sell at the peak and saw that happen.

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Bitcoin has certainly an edge over other investments, that is why it’s never surprising why bitcoin investment has take the lead when it comes to highly successful and profitable investment, something that others are still blind of it the reason why until now they are left behind with the type of investment they prioritize. Most especially if you end up accumulating a maximum amount, surely bitcoin will definitely take you very fast with your future goals.

Of course bitcoin is better compared to other investments at the moment, just look at bitcoin has turned into an asset to hedge in case of inflation and there are many other advantages. such as the number is limited and cannot be controlled by any authority. so it is very natural that bitcoin is an asset of the future, it could even be said that bitcoin is a valuable and rare asset in the future.

Bitcoin was apparently created to store wealth, similar to precious metals, property and shares. because if it is stored in a bank in a certain currency, it is easily robbed by regulations.

So it is not surprising why Bitcoin has a very high value to date and will even be higher in the future because demand increases and supply becomes more limited. I believe bitcoin is the currency or asset of the future. If you don't buy now, you will miss out on prices that will continue to rise. Bitcoin is too difficult to stop, if you remember that almost every year many people express bad opinions about bitcoin but in reality there are still many people interested in bitcoin.

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If you invest in crypto, you can't invest with the thought that you will definitely get a lot of money in the future. No matter where you invest your money, your money remains somewhat at risk and investing somewhere does not guarantee that you will get a lot of profit in the future if you invest there. It is only possibility and if we can make this possibility by risking money then in future we may get good amount of money profit from such investment. In reality there are businesses but people lose a lot of money because the business doesn't succeed as planned as they started the business but they keep trying so that their business is in a strong position. We also have to wait and expect good things to come

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Quote from: 3la9l_kolbaCa on June 19, 2024, 02:05:34 PM

the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

That's actually more like gambling but you won't burn all of it once you loss with trading, unlike with betting crypto. Lots of perspective linked to this mindset, but if you're an intelligent person you should be consistent with that principles that future in crypto would be unexpected. Many surprises comes and be prepare with worst case scenario that tend to exist.

It's true that the future of crypto will certainly be bright, although we also have to prepare for the worst case scenario to face it. Don't be lulled by high expectations, it's better to buy and forget about it, that way we will be able to hold it in the long term, and if the price is too high, there will be a lot of news, so we can harvest it. Don't gamble and have little patience

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Quote from: uswa56 on June 19, 2024, 09:42:23 AM

the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

That's actually more like gambling but you won't burn all of it once you loss with trading, unlike with betting crypto. Lots of perspective linked to this mindset, but if you're an intelligent person you should be consistent with that principles that future in crypto would be unexpected. Many surprises comes and be prepare with worst case scenario that tend to exist.

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The initial mistakes made by everyone who is just starting out are of course very normal because they don't understand them well, but for those who can correct and learn from the mistakes they make, of course they will be able to achieve success in investing. If they just follow other people without understanding at all what they are doing, it is very likely that they will make mistakes that will cause them to suffer losses and it would be better if they first tried to study and understand the investment well to be able to decide on things correctly. investment that is carried out and does not depend on other people.

Some beginners will indeed panic when there is a price correction on the asset they hold and if they sell when the price is decreasing it will certainly make them experience a loss and it would be better for them to understand this first before deciding to sell and it would be better when they decide to hold We can choose an asset that has the potential for profit and we can hold it until the profit comes.

For beginners, it is better to learn about trading and investment first, don't follow other people without knowledge, it will cause losses for yourself, the mistake beginner traders make is that they often follow people without learning knowledge first, because basic knowledge will minimize losses for you. ourselves, after we learn the basic knowledge and then we start trading and investing, it will be easier for us to work without any doubt in ourselves, don't let the same mistakes keep making us lose in vain, study the knowledge first and then collect it. capital to start trading in that way will make us profitable with in-depth knowledge.

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Quote from: AnonBitCoiner on June 14, 2024, 12:39:20 PM

At first everyone makes mistakes but the real success is for those who understand their fault and work to overcome it or stop to make anymore. People who get involved in investment at the start will always follow others because they have no idea what to do but if someone gets knowledge prior to the investment then there will be no need to follow others as he will be able to understand each and everything well by himself.

Panic sales will just become a cause of loss but it cannot give you something else therefore when the market is down then hold more with the confidence that a day will come in favor of you when your hold coins will gain a higher price once more but if your coins are new then risk will be enhanced.

The initial mistakes made by everyone who is just starting out are of course very normal because they don't understand them well, but for those who can correct and learn from the mistakes they make, of course they will be able to achieve success in investing. If they just follow other people without understanding at all what they are doing, it is very likely that they will make mistakes that will cause them to suffer losses and it would be better if they first tried to study and understand the investment well to be able to decide on things correctly. investment that is carried out and does not depend on other people.

Some beginners will indeed panic when there is a price correction on the asset they hold and if they sell when the price is decreasing it will certainly make them experience a loss and it would be better for them to understand this first before deciding to sell and it would be better when they decide to hold We can choose an asset that has the potential for profit and we can hold it until the profit comes.

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Quote from: Essential10 on June 14, 2024, 04:06:50 AM

Many people join business or different jobs to succeed in future life. But I think apart from these, cryptocurrency is currently a sector that will take you very fast in the future If you look at Bitcoin in crypto currency you will see that the price of Bitcoin is currently very high and has become as valuable as a gold, Bitcoin is likely to reach $100k by the end of next year or year. Look, no one is being forced here, it's their personal matter who to do or not, but I personally think Bitcoin investing should be a right venture in life, it's moving many people forward.

Yeah, cryptocurrencies providing a great opportunity for people to make their futures better by utilizing their money in the best way possible so that they can have as much value for their money as possible. That being said, it is also important for people to understand and acknowledge the risks involved in cryptocurrency investments because a lot of people don't know this and when they come to know, that's already late for them.

When it's their decision to decide whether they want to invest their money in cryptocurrencies or not then they should be aware of all the risks involved so that when they see their assets losing value after making an investment, they shouldn't be worried and should know that it is something normal.

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Quote from: Essential10 on June 14, 2024, 04:06:50 AM

Many people join business or different jobs to succeed in future life. But I think apart from these, cryptocurrency is currently a sector that will take you very fast in the future If you look at Bitcoin in crypto currency you will see that the price of Bitcoin is currently very high and has become as valuable as a gold, Bitcoin is likely to reach $100k by the end of next year or year. Look, no one is being forced here, it's their personal matter who to do or not, but I personally think Bitcoin investing should be a right venture in life, it's moving many people forward.

Bitcoin has certainly an edge over other investments, that is why it’s never surprising why bitcoin investment has take the lead when it comes to highly successful and profitable investment, something that others are still blind of it the reason why until now they are left behind with the type of investment they prioritize. Most especially if you end up accumulating a maximum amount, surely bitcoin will definitely take you very fast with your future goals.

I do agree that bitcoin does make it possible for people to have some sort of situation that will not really consider all that well, so we should be careful with what we have, I can't really consider how to get better or we could just reach to a point where it will be very tough to get it working.

This is why it's smarter to just have a solution that will work out better with what we have, not going to be that easy to handle it, but we are going to be able to make a profit from it. If you focus on other stuff, like risky stuff, then the possibility of someone making a profit of those risky stuff is very tiny, whereas if you just look at bitcoin and how to trade that, even a leverage trade would be less risky than those smaller coins and tokens.

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There is still a few percentage of people in crypto which means this stuff will not be obsolete yet unlike the traditional finance system. and if this isn't going away then this is the future.

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Today, we are witnessing colossal turbulence in the banking sector, associated with the fall of Silicon Valley Bank, Silvergate, Signature and other banks in March.
Despite this, no one questions traditional financial institutions, as happens with crypto exchanges. People are used to the fact that banks go bankrupt, so this is a normal situation for them.
As for cryptocurrency, society's attitude is largely biased. The reason lies in the many myths that have flooded the information space. Hence ignorance, misunderstanding and mistrust.

in some news that i see on crypto base new sites, they are saying that these institutions are going to be bought buy the bigger institutions which will also soon be releasing digital stablecoin which in turn the CBDC. theories are sometimes just predictions of where things may go.

One way or another, cryptocurrencies and the banking system will exist simultaneously, despite long-standing statements that one will replace the other. Some banks in the West actively interact with cryptocurrencies, converting funds from cryptocurrency wallets to fiat accounts. The use of cryptocurrencies provides banks with a new level of stability and trust, opening up new horizons in the financial world.

The idea has always been the co-existence of the traditional system of finance and the cryptocurrency. Both has their pros and cons. While everyone has known what the traditional system has for us, we still consider cryptocurrency as being relatively new and as such has some new fixtures that it is yet to unvail to us.

Op is correct that cryptocurrency has a certain known pattern. Even if the price is not predictable in the short term, but with the seasonal Halving and bull run, there's actually a clue to what the price will look like in the future. Maybe as global adoption is approaching, these marks will become clearer.

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It truly continues to happen and in every cycle of the market, there will also be panic sellers.

I even was one of them before when I didn't know what to do. I don't hold a lot but the news and people who are spreading FUD made me concerned for myself and my holdings at those times.

But when I got used to it and understood that these are typical scenarios in the market, I'm not buying them anymore and I stay wherever I am and won't be moved with such anymore.

At first everyone makes mistakes but the real success is for those who understand their fault and work to overcome it or stop to make anymore. People who get involved in investment at the start will always follow others because they have no idea what to do but if someone gets knowledge prior to the investment then there will be no need to follow others as he will be able to understand each and everything well by himself.

Panic sales will just become a cause of loss but it cannot give you something else therefore when the market is down then hold more with the confidence that a day will come in favor of you when your hold coins will gain a higher price once more but if your coins are new then risk will be enhanced.

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Quote from: Essential10 on June 14, 2024, 04:06:50 AM

Many people join business or different jobs to succeed in future life. But I think apart from these, cryptocurrency is currently a sector that will take you very fast in the future If you look at Bitcoin in crypto currency you will see that the price of Bitcoin is currently very high and has become as valuable as a gold, Bitcoin is likely to reach $100k by the end of next year or year. Look, no one is being forced here, it's their personal matter who to do or not, but I personally think Bitcoin investing should be a right venture in life, it's moving many people forward.

Bitcoin has certainly an edge over other investments, that is why it’s never surprising why bitcoin investment has take the lead when it comes to highly successful and profitable investment, something that others are still blind of it the reason why until now they are left behind with the type of investment they prioritize. Most especially if you end up accumulating a maximum amount, surely bitcoin will definitely take you very fast with your future goals.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on June 10, 2024, 09:43:35 AM

the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

I hope you know that in unpredictable events, people still makes money from forex, they make huge amount of money from it but unless you understand the game better and how it works. Crypto is an open place where anyone can get first class information and that is why it's consider the best for everyone but in a forex investment, if you have 4 ears listening to the wall street, you are good as the mainstream media in crypto where information can be made available for anyone.

Another advantage of crypto is that they are not as complex as traditional finances looks, we have vast majority of exchanges here who have similar assets for trading, not all brokers can offer the same service due to regulatory concerns but we have both centralized and decentralized exchanges everyone available for everyone regardless of where you are coming from and your nationality, crypto is the king and has wider opportunities than traditional finance.

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Many people join business or different jobs to succeed in future life. But I think apart from these, cryptocurrency is currently a sector that will take you very fast in the future If you look at Bitcoin in crypto currency you will see that the price of Bitcoin is currently very high and has become as valuable as a gold, Bitcoin is likely to reach $100k by the end of next year or year. Look, no one is being forced here, it's their personal matter who to do or not, but I personally think Bitcoin investing should be a right venture in life, it's moving many people forward.

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Everyone wants a clear trend in the future and many traders avoid it because many have visual and historical uncertainty as the main goal. Crypto still has many other advantages over traditional assets that many people use. In whatever we can do in life, choose the right way and bring it to the positive.

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Quote from: Vinaa77 on June 09, 2024, 10:14:40 PM

Investing in crypto will certainly be very profitable for us now and also in the future,

Investment will always be future-oriented. there is no investment that you make right now and earn right now.
The crypto market has become a concern for investment players in various sectors. some think crypto is a bad investment. but those who have benefited from crypto investments will not say that.

when you have tried several investments other than crypto and then you invest in crypto then you will be able to compare them. I have such a friend who was previously active in the stock market. but after getting to know crypto, he said something amazing.
The key to any investment is choosing the right asset.

Crypto investment is certainly ahead from other forms of investments, despite of its high volatility which majority sees it as a threat more than an asset. But if you are blind about crypto, and would think traditional investment still the best investment so far, then you might be missing a good opportunity to invest and be profitable with crypto.

Crypto is profitable if you know exactly how to handle its risks and maximize its potentials and turn into profits, but if you have no idea on how to make it work, investing in crypto would be a waste of time and money that’s why some didn’t even bother to learn investing on it.

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Apart from being backed by historical data, the transparency and immutability of crypto provide a solid foundation for analysis that isn't necessarily available in traditional markets. When a large amount is moved, it's most known to the public. And this makes it easy for traders to predict the market direction most time..

That's one concern that many traders are looking for but for long-term holders, it does not move that much.

Someone who moves a lot of money from a sleeping wallet that has seen no activity for years and suddenly moves its balance to exchanges.

That creates fear and panic for most of them and that becomes a sign for everybody to see that there could be a dump that might happen anytime soon.

Yes, news like that is often updated on social media which causes panic. When you see large transactions sent to the exchange, it shows panic.
people from the past who held Bitcoin or their long-term assets already saw a good opportunity to sell. I think that's a natural thing to do because maybe their investment plans have been achieved.
but the panic situation from the dump that occurred will be exploited by those who see the opportunity again. because of the belief that in the future the value will definitely improve again. I think situations like that continue to occur and have succeeded in providing benefits to those who understand the opportunities of long-term investment.

It truly continues to happen and in every cycle of the market, there will also be panic sellers.

I even was one of them before when I didn't know what to do. I don't hold a lot but the news and people who are spreading FUD made me concerned for myself and my holdings at those times.

But when I got used to it and understood that these are typical scenarios in the market, I'm not buying them anymore and I stay wherever I am and won't be moved with such anymore.

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Quote from: Cryptoababe on June 10, 2024, 01:23:52 PM

Apart from being backed by historical data, the transparency and immutability of crypto provide a solid foundation for analysis that isn't necessarily available in traditional markets. When a large amount is moved, it's most known to the public. And this makes it easy for traders to predict the market direction most time..

That's one concern that many traders are looking for but for long-term holders, it does not move that much.

Someone who moves a lot of money from a sleeping wallet that has seen no activity for years and suddenly moves its balance to exchanges.

That creates fear and panic for most of them and that becomes a sign for everybody to see that there could be a dump that might happen anytime soon.

Yes, news like that is often updated on social media which causes panic. When you see large transactions sent to the exchange, it shows panic.
people from the past who held Bitcoin or their long-term assets already saw a good opportunity to sell. I think that's a natural thing to do because maybe their investment plans have been achieved.
but the panic situation from the dump that occurred will be exploited by those who see the opportunity again. because of the belief that in the future the value will definitely improve again. I think situations like that continue to occur and have succeeded in providing benefits to those who understand the opportunities of long-term investment.

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Quote from: Cryptoababe on June 10, 2024, 01:23:52 PM

the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

I must say this surprised me because I don't know where it is coming from and I disagree with you in the strongest terms. I've been active virtually in all sectors of the financial market for almost 2 decades and I see nothing different than before. All markets are dynamics be it stocks, indices, currency, commodity, energy, crypto, name it, and they often have their smooth riding time where there will be clarity, and the same goes for the time you will hardly be able to predict the market through clear analysis.

This is more often in cryptocurrency as well, so I do not know where this is coming from. The grace crypto has is that people often know its bullish and bearish seasons, and when you trade more often toward that bias at that season, it becomes easy for you to make money. Though not without its challenges as people lose so well too. But saying the overall chart of cryptocurrency is better, that's just not correct.

I would even rather choose Gold, stocks and Indices many times over in this regard.

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Apart from being backed by historical data, the transparency and immutability of crypto provide a solid foundation for analysis that isn't necessarily available in traditional markets. When a large amount is moved, it's most known to the public. And this makes it easy for traders to predict the market direction most time..

That's one concern that many traders are looking for but for long-term holders, it does not move that much.

Someone who moves a lot of money from a sleeping wallet that has seen no activity for years and suddenly moves its balance to exchanges.

That creates fear and panic for most of them and that becomes a sign for everybody to see that there could be a dump that might happen anytime soon.

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Apart from being backed by historical data, the transparency and immutability of crypto provide a solid foundation for analysis that isn't necessarily available in traditional markets. When a large amount is moved, it's most known to the public. And this makes it easy for traders to predict the market direction most time..

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on June 10, 2024, 09:43:35 AM

the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

If running the historical data leads to one making an educated decision, then I see no reason why crypto wouldn't be a natural pick...and the fact that as an investor you have full control of these assets and less physical security needed to secure the investment...this blows the competition out of the water and not forgetting less running costs, less paper work needed to acquire crypto assets and ease of exchange just makes traditional investments look really redundant!!

Crypto is really the future!!!

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Investment will always be future-oriented. there is no investment that you make right now and earn right now.
The crypto market has become a concern for investment players in various sectors. some think crypto is a bad investment. but those who have benefited from crypto investments will not say that.

when you have tried several investments other than crypto and then you invest in crypto then you will be able to compare them. I have such a friend who was previously active in the stock market. but after getting to know crypto, he said something amazing.
The key to any investment is choosing the right asset.

Yes bro, because before people try and learn by investing in crypto they think they will waste their time with this unimportant thing, they don't know what it's like to receive results from this crypto themselves, when they have tried and want to learn about investing in crypto , then they easily understand how to trade in crypto, they understand a little more about the world of trading and then they dive into the world of crypto then they will be addicted to the results they receive after trying to invest, indeed investing is not as easy as we imagine, and investing is also not like flipping the palm of the hand which immediately results in large profits, but it all has to go through a long process to produce a profit and investment for the long term that we will enjoy in the future.

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Quote from: Vinaa77 on June 09, 2024, 10:14:40 PM

the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

It sure is, but don't go thinking that the traditional means of trading and investment is going to be dead soon as crypto really takes over. The outside market is still a thing and it definitely will persist for as long as fiat money remains a concept we dabble. Plus it's a great starting ecosystem for newbies and investors who aren't so keen about dabbling in the very volatile and dangerous cryptocurrency market where your investments can literally go from 100-0 in a snap of a finger.

The volatility of the market is pretty much temporary, and after an economic reset after a massive and deadly economic crash, we're going to have a pretty smooth sailing outside market. So all in all, traditional trading forms will still remain good at least until the end of the century.

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Investing in crypto will certainly be very profitable for us now and also in the future,

Investment will always be future-oriented. there is no investment that you make right now and earn right now.
The crypto market has become a concern for investment players in various sectors. some think crypto is a bad investment. but those who have benefited from crypto investments will not say that.

when you have tried several investments other than crypto and then you invest in crypto then you will be able to compare them. I have such a friend who was previously active in the stock market. but after getting to know crypto, he said something amazing.
The key to any investment is choosing the right asset.

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Quote from: slaman29 on June 08, 2024, 04:14:23 AM

What about Warren Buffett's Hathaway Berkshire stocks that crashed 99% in a minute? Yes ok that's about a glitch but believe me there is a lot of volatility in regular markets too. Bitcoin of course globally and daily is more volatile, but all these markets have their own bubbles depending on timeframe.

Volatility usually makes it a bad investment in short term though, as much as I like Bitcoin. Remember even the biggest like Microstrategy almost got liquidated.

Hathaway Berkshire is just one incident, but before that there were many stocks that were as volatile as the cryptocurrency market. Especially during the recent economic crisis, many US bank stocks also fell 30%-40% in one day.
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That was my point, actually. I was just giving one example but there is big volatility also in traditional markets. Stocks, forex, you name it. Remember last year oil dropped to NEGATIVE dollars? You would be given money to buy oil at the time lol.

But yes, so I was pointing out that it was wrong to say only Bitcoin has volatility. Among other wrong things that as pointed out

If I remember correctly, that happened in 2020 and the oil price was negative by more than 37 USD/barrel and that was probably a record for the world oil market. In addition, not only US bank stocks, technology stocks such as Meta (facebook) or Russian and Japanese currencies are also seriously dumped in the foreign exchange market. The charts of these currencies look no different than those of memecoin Grin

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Every financial market has fluctuations and risks, not just Bitcoin. People are being psychologically manipulated by traditional investors as they try to say that bitcoin is too volatile and risky, while they are no different from us. Fundamentally, volatility is the essence of finance.

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I am very happy to see that the OP is once again taking part in regular discussion threads.

So bitcoin volatility over a year on any year scale stays under the 15% mark. Stocks usually are even lower.

When it comes to methods of spending, crypto is an easier option, but not legally accepted everywhere. This might improve in future and see cross border transactions happening without the parties getting themselves into trouble when converting it to fiat.

But traditional assets have maintain their position over the years. They are not gambling at all. I have been with the stock markets of my country for some years now and bitcoin over the last 7years, I take part in both and that is what I feel.

I have very high expectations when it comes to crypto investment because not only it is profitable at the present , but if crypto price will be consistent in its upward position, then we will witness a new all time high for bitcoin or crypto most often. And as much as I have high hopes with the future of crypto, traditional investments as well should never be underrated. Not only because it creates a fixed and increasing profits, but also if you want to have secure investments, traditional investments can still guarantee your future success and financial growth, however it also depends on the kind of investment you have.

Investing in crypto will certainly be very profitable for us now and also in the future, but with fluctuating market conditions and it is difficult for us to make a profit if we don't choose to invest in the long term, so it is important for us to be able to understand the right time to collect and hold for a long period of time to be able to profit from what we have invested.

Yes, having several types of investment will certainly enable us to achieve financial freedom and this is certainly everyone's dream of investing and everyone certainly has investment choices that they like in preparing their future to be even better.

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Quote from: fuguebtc on June 08, 2024, 05:02:55 AM

Quote from: slaman29 on June 08, 2024, 04:14:23 AM

What about Warren Buffett's Hathaway Berkshire stocks that crashed 99% in a minute? Yes ok that's about a glitch but believe me there is a lot of volatility in regular markets too. Bitcoin of course globally and daily is more volatile, but all these markets have their own bubbles depending on timeframe.

Volatility usually makes it a bad investment in short term though, as much as I like Bitcoin. Remember even the biggest like Microstrategy almost got liquidated.

Hathaway Berkshire is just one incident, but before that there were many stocks that were as volatile as the cryptocurrency market. Especially during the recent economic crisis, many US bank stocks also fell 30%-40% in one day.
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That was my point, actually. I was just giving one example but there is big volatility also in traditional markets. Stocks, forex, you name it. Remember last year oil dropped to NEGATIVE dollars? You would be given money to buy oil at the time lol.

But yes, so I was pointing out that it was wrong to say only Bitcoin has volatility. Among other wrong things that as pointed out

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on June 05, 2024, 05:04:07 AM

I am very happy to see that the OP is once again taking part in regular discussion threads.

So bitcoin volatility over a year on any year scale stays under the 15% mark. Stocks usually are even lower.

When it comes to methods of spending, crypto is an easier option, but not legally accepted everywhere. This might improve in future and see cross border transactions happening without the parties getting themselves into trouble when converting it to fiat.

But traditional assets have maintain their position over the years. They are not gambling at all. I have been with the stock markets of my country for some years now and bitcoin over the last 7years, I take part in both and that is what I feel.

I have very high expectations when it comes to crypto investment because not only it is profitable at the present , but if crypto price will be consistent in its upward position, then we will witness a new all time high for bitcoin or crypto most often. And as much as I have high hopes with the future of crypto, traditional investments as well should never be underrated. Not only because it creates a fixed and increasing profits, but also if you want to have secure investments, traditional investments can still guarantee your future success and financial growth, however it also depends on the kind of investment you have.

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There is still a few percentage of people in crypto which means this stuff will not be obsolete yet unlike the traditional finance system. and if this isn't going away then this is the future.

Quote from: slaman29 on June 08, 2024, 04:14:23 AM

Today, we are witnessing colossal turbulence in the banking sector, associated with the fall of Silicon Valley Bank, Silvergate, Signature and other banks in March.
Despite this, no one questions traditional financial institutions, as happens with crypto exchanges. People are used to the fact that banks go bankrupt, so this is a normal situation for them.
As for cryptocurrency, society's attitude is largely biased. The reason lies in the many myths that have flooded the information space. Hence ignorance, misunderstanding and mistrust.

in some news that i see on crypto base new sites, they are saying that these institutions are going to be bought buy the bigger institutions which will also soon be releasing digital stablecoin which in turn the CBDC. theories are sometimes just predictions of where things may go.

One way or another, cryptocurrencies and the banking system will exist simultaneously, despite long-standing statements that one will replace the other. Some banks in the West actively interact with cryptocurrencies, converting funds from cryptocurrency wallets to fiat accounts. The use of cryptocurrencies provides banks with a new level of stability and trust, opening up new horizons in the financial world.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on June 08, 2024, 04:09:04 AM

The traditional market, as far as I know, is not as volatile as cryptocurrency. That's why the prices of cryptocurrencies and Bitcoin are always unpredictable when it comes to their live market movements.

That's why it's still better to invest in Bitcoin if the investor understands it himself, and I also think that many institutional investors have an interest in buying it because they understand what Bitcoin can bring back to their capital.

What about Warren Buffett's Hathaway Berkshire stocks that crashed 99% in a minute? Yes ok that's about a glitch but believe me there is a lot of volatility in regular markets too. Bitcoin of course globally and daily is more volatile, but all these markets have their own bubbles depending on timeframe.

Volatility usually makes it a bad investment in short term though, as much as I like Bitcoin. Remember even the biggest like Microstrategy almost got liquidated.

Hathaway Berkshire is just one incident, but before that there were many stocks that were as volatile as the cryptocurrency market. Especially during the recent economic crisis, many US bank stocks also fell 30%-40% in one day.

In my opinion, the financial market is unpredictable whether it is the traditional market or the cryptocurrency market. Because in addition to the market moving according to supply and demand, the market cannot avoid manipulation, or unexpected macro news...many factors impact the market, so predicting is never easy. That's why when it comes to investing in bitcoin, holding for the long term is always a better choice than trying to make money by trading short-term.
This is the stock chart of a bank in the US.
https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/new-york-community-bancorp-stock-tumbles-dividend-cut-surprise-loss-2024-01-31/

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Quote from: bettercrypto on June 08, 2024, 04:09:04 AM

The traditional market, as far as I know, is not as volatile as cryptocurrency. That's why the prices of cryptocurrencies and Bitcoin are always unpredictable when it comes to their live market movements.

That's why it's still better to invest in Bitcoin if the investor understands it himself, and I also think that many institutional investors have an interest in buying it because they understand what Bitcoin can bring back to their capital.

What about Warren Buffett's Hathaway Berkshire stocks that crashed 99% in a minute? Yes ok that's about a glitch but believe me there is a lot of volatility in regular markets too. Bitcoin of course globally and daily is more volatile, but all these markets have their own bubbles depending on timeframe.

Volatility usually makes it a bad investment in short term though, as much as I like Bitcoin. Remember even the biggest like Microstrategy almost got liquidated.

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Quote from: goaldigger on June 07, 2024, 04:25:16 PM

the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

The traditional market, as far as I know, is not as volatile as cryptocurrency. That's why the prices of cryptocurrencies and Bitcoin are always unpredictable when it comes to their live market movements.

That's why it's still better to invest in Bitcoin if the investor understands it himself, and I also think that many institutional investors have an interest in buying it because they understand what Bitcoin can bring back to their capital.

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There’s no doubt about this and many countries are slowly accepting this fact. The approval of ETF attracts a lot of good investors and a big one, sooner or later we will reach the peak and many are confident about it. What we can do right now is to follow the trend and of course do the right investment decision because we already know here, Bitcoin is the future.

That is how we look forward to Bitcoin but still, people need to be educated and open their minds to the function of Bitcoin. Because until now, many don't understand how this works as they know it was just an investment, not an alternative currency. We believe that Bitcoin is the future, yet it is still impossible to grow if doubts are still in our mind and most of all, if scam incidents increase as this will affect the trust and confidence of the individuals, especially newcomers.

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the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

It is difficult to take this claim seriously, it is true that the stock market is like a huge casino more than anything, however I do not see how with exception of bitcoin, ethereum and other handful of coins, this market is any better, did you forget that meme coins and many other shitcoins are pushed by scammers all the time and a great deal of people end up believing them? This shows that at least when it comes to those kind of assets, this market surpass the stock market with ease.

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There’s no doubt about this and many countries are slowly accepting this fact. The approval of ETF attracts a lot of good investors and a big one, sooner or later we will reach the peak and many are confident about it. What we can do right now is to follow the trend and of course do the right investment decision because we already know here, Bitcoin is the future.

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Quote from: pinggoki on June 07, 2024, 05:48:33 AM

Today, we are witnessing colossal turbulence in the banking sector, associated with the fall of Silicon Valley Bank, Silvergate, Signature and other banks in March.
Despite this, no one questions traditional financial institutions, as happens with crypto exchanges. People are used to the fact that banks go bankrupt, so this is a normal situation for them.
As for cryptocurrency, society's attitude is largely biased. The reason lies in the many myths that have flooded the information space. Hence ignorance, misunderstanding and mistrust.

I think that it's just a matter of time before people realize that cryptocurrency is the future of money.
We should not be deluded because even Papal has created their own stable coin which is a sign that the future of crypto is here.
We should but even think about it too much because their are so many companies that are investing in cryptocurrency because they know that very soon, many people are going to be fall in into cryptocurrency which is going to make the government dump fiat and think about a better way to carry our transactions rather than the use of paper.

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I think everyone agrees on that, bitcoin can go up in prices at a really fast pace so I'm definitely sure that it's the best investment that someone can have when it comes to investing, comparing that to the traditional investment instruments, bitcoin also is the more accessible of the bunch which in my opinion is a really good thing because that means that it's also an investment that doesn't gatekeep on anyone, and that it will certainly help more people more than anything.

That's why it's always a recommended thing for you to hodl bitcoin because no matter how dire the things are, you'll always be able to know that in the long-term, you're going to get the best out of bitcoin and it's never going to let you down.

That "fast" part is the part that people do not really understand that very well. They see it go down and sell and they say "I will buy back when it starts to go back up", and then suddenly in a day it goes up 10%+ and they regret missing it out.

You can't catch bitcoin that easily when it goes up, it goes up super fast, I have seen as fast as 10%+ increase in under an hour, which means that you are not going to make that much money to begin with. I would suggest that the best way to go would be just keep holding your coins. We are holding something that will make you insane amount of profit if you keep holding it, and yet people are insisting on just selling it whenever they see a little drop, that doesn't make sense to me at all.

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Quote from: Glen Hoddle on June 05, 2024, 02:57:05 AM

It is true that big companies invest in crypto and earn huge amount of money. In particular, these institutions are most associated with Bitcoin, the most in-demand crypto in the current market.

Not only big companies can make investment in bitcoin and earn from it, you can also achieve that same as an individual, invest and hold and you will be profitable about the investment you have made, its more about how determined we are and how we were able to make an investment on the right time in such a way that profits us, those institutions also make losses sometimes and the market is not centralized on their own favour alone.

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There is still a few percentage of people in crypto which means this stuff will not be obsolete yet unlike the traditional finance system. and if this isn't going away then this is the future.

Today, we are witnessing colossal turbulence in the banking sector, associated with the fall of Silicon Valley Bank, Silvergate, Signature and other banks in March.
Despite this, no one questions traditional financial institutions, as happens with crypto exchanges. People are used to the fact that banks go bankrupt, so this is a normal situation for them.
As for cryptocurrency, society's attitude is largely biased. The reason lies in the many myths that have flooded the information space. Hence ignorance, misunderstanding and mistrust.

in some news that i see on crypto base new sites, they are saying that these institutions are going to be bought buy the bigger institutions which will also soon be releasing digital stablecoin which in turn the CBDC. theories are sometimes just predictions of where things may go.

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Today, we are witnessing colossal turbulence in the banking sector, associated with the fall of Silicon Valley Bank, Silvergate, Signature and other banks in March.
Despite this, no one questions traditional financial institutions, as happens with crypto exchanges. People are used to the fact that banks go bankrupt, so this is a normal situation for them.
As for cryptocurrency, society's attitude is largely biased. The reason lies in the many myths that have flooded the information space. Hence ignorance, misunderstanding and mistrust.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on June 07, 2024, 03:08:04 AM

the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

Bitcoin is actually the future. It is not quite right to call crypto the real future because most cryptos do not have a clear future like Bitcoin. Apart from Bitcoin, all are alts. Only a few alts have a strong foundation.

Let the conditions of the traditional market and the crypto market be felt by yourself so that you can draw a conclusion about where the differences lie. In the long term since it was first marketed, Bitcoin is better because it has historical data. Regarding market games, both have their own stories including games played by market players.

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I think everyone agrees on that, bitcoin can go up in prices at a really fast pace so I'm definitely sure that it's the best investment that someone can have when it comes to investing, comparing that to the traditional investment instruments, bitcoin also is the more accessible of the bunch which in my opinion is a really good thing because that means that it's also an investment that doesn't gatekeep on anyone, and that it will certainly help more people more than anything.

That's why it's always a recommended thing for you to hodl bitcoin because no matter how dire the things are, you'll always be able to know that in the long-term, you're going to get the best out of bitcoin and it's never going to let you down.

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I don't understand why you would call traditional assets gambling while cryptocurrencies are being called the future of investments because that doesn't make much sense. The traditional marketplaces are indeed unpredictable, but so are cryptocurrencies and this market, both markets are volatile, in fact, the traditional markets are pretty mature now and they have more trust among investors be they retail or industrial investors.

He should have called the cryptocurrency market a gamble and not the traditional market because, there are many things that is yet to be cleared in the cryptocurrency market. Investors are yet to trust that they can invest their money and it will not be lost because the market is very unpredictable. The market does not have any reason for investors to believe that it will be around for a long time, many projects have a very short lifespan and if you invest with the hopes of holding your investments for a long term, you will be at losses at the end of the investment. There are many projects getting launched and before the end of the bear market , they are no longer existing. Untill project can give investors trust in their project like Bitcoin has done for people that are investing in it, we might not be ready for the cryptocurrency market to be the preferred investment market.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on June 05, 2024, 05:04:07 AM

the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

I don't understand why you would call traditional assets gambling while cryptocurrencies are being called the future of investments because that doesn't make much sense. The traditional marketplaces are indeed unpredictable, but so are cryptocurrencies and this market, both markets are volatile, in fact, the traditional markets are pretty mature now and they have more trust among investors be they retail or industrial investors.

So I think that the cryptocurrency market still needs a lot of time to challenge the traditional markets and to earn the trust of the investors who are always looking to make investments and get some profit because there are a lot of uncertainties in the cryptocurrency industry as of now and it will take some time for them to get removed.

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So bitcoin volatility over a year on any year scale stays under the 15% mark. Stocks usually are even lower.

When it comes to methods of spending, crypto is an easier option, but not legally accepted everywhere. This might improve in future and see cross border transactions happening without the parties getting themselves into trouble when converting it to fiat.

But traditional assets have maintain their position over the years. They are not gambling at all. I have been with the stock markets of my country for some years now and bitcoin over the last 7years, I take part in both and that is what I feel.

Traditional investments are never a gambling, you will most likely gamble instead in crypto most especially if you enter crypto investments without knowing the basics well. As much as I want to take part in some traditional assets, but I also want to make sure that I won’t miss opportunities with crypto. That’s why I keep on DCAing whenever I have spare money to invest, and hold them longer without intention to sell earlier as long as I don’t need immediate funds.

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Quote from: yudi09 on June 05, 2024, 06:56:18 AM

the future of investment that is,
while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

This information isn't wholesome in fact, you can't generalize this with relation to every of traditional market patterns, if you understand critically the patterns around the traditional market which ofcourse have been there before the crypto market you would see the limitations in your idea, because somehow the traditional market formed the fundamentals for the crypto market and not the crypto market only have the fast advancement over the traditional market patterns.

They both still have a pattern and I don't think either supersedes the other but ofr advancement which is giving attention and credence to the later but the first still have good and valid pattern which are essential and fundamental to the later patterns of the advanced. Understanding the traditional market will take your mind of what feels like gambling as real investors still speculate in the traditional market and it's as profitable and patterned as that which you are seeing in the cryptocurrency market.

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In it there are various behaviors that make the market appear to have no clear pattern. They continue to spread their power to dominate it.
There are too many cryptos to mention. The crypto market is also full of games even though the fundamentals are said to be supported by historical data.
I only put my trust in Bitcoin which has a clear pattern throughout time and not in other types of coins even though some coins have been used by the government.

I think that is what you called as volatility or fluctuations. It's normal in financial markets, as there are different factors that affects them and more here in crypto due to how they are built (E.g. their supply is limited, they are decentralized, etc...). Standard cryptos are straight to the point, while the shady ones are the ones who have games. Once you figured out how to play them, that is how can gain a benefit of earning a huge profit out of your not-so-huge investment.

BTC is not a secret anymore and even some governments are already using it. There are other coins which are legit and good, so it's not wrong to try them but always prioritize BTC.

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I feel like future of currency as well. I know that it is not making leaps on that front just yet, and it looks like between the fee that it takes and the time it takes for a single transaction, it looks like we are not going to get anything major. However, I would like to point out that we are going to have something that will be a little different, it is not going to be all that simple.

We should realize that as a currency it is a much better one than whatever we have, if we can solve those two issues then we are going to be doing pretty well. What we need to do right now is that we should be considering how to get a better feeling towards the period where things will not be easy at all, we should just see that as possible.

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the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

In it there are various behaviors that make the market appear to have no clear pattern. They continue to spread their power to dominate it.
There are too many cryptos to mention. The crypto market is also full of games even though the fundamentals are said to be supported by historical data.
I only put my trust in Bitcoin which has a clear pattern throughout time and not in other types of coins even though some coins have been used by the government.

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the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

People will still tend to use traditional assets because they think they are ideal for them. They can see what they are investing and also nothing thing traditional assets are still in a good way like investment in farms, real state etc. because they are still profitable. Well, the difference in crypto is much more volatile in crypto than these, and it takes a lot of days before gaining your return of investment. It's hard to please other people to invest in things they don't know, so Bitcoin investments are solely for those who know and appreciate it.

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I am very happy to see that the OP is once again taking part in regular discussion threads.

So bitcoin volatility over a year on any year scale stays under the 15% mark. Stocks usually are even lower.

When it comes to methods of spending, crypto is an easier option, but not legally accepted everywhere. This might improve in future and see cross border transactions happening without the parties getting themselves into trouble when converting it to fiat.

But traditional assets have maintain their position over the years. They are not gambling at all. I have been with the stock markets of my country for some years now and bitcoin over the last 7years, I take part in both and that is what I feel.

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the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

Blockchain is the technology, foundation for more developments and applications in future. Cryptocurrency and crypto projects are part of blockchain ecosystem. Bitcoin is a biggest piece and most important project in crypto ecosystem.

Your post is not wrong if you wanted to say about future potential for applications of blockchain technology into life and many industries. It turns to be wrong if you wanted to say about altcoin projects and their cryptocurrencies. Those coins or tokens if created from poor idea of those project teams, will not be used by community in a long run. They will disappear, die like many altcoins in the past and I disagree to say most of altcoins will have bright future.

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It is true that big companies invest in crypto and earn huge amount of money. In particular, these institutions are most associated with Bitcoin, the most in-demand crypto in the current market.

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the future of investment that is, while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (price driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

Everything is moving onto the Blockchain, companies are now interested in tokenizing their products because you get more publicity and investment when you are into cryptocurrency. Cryptocurrency is making things more transparent therefore investors are more interested in cryptocurrency. Companies can raise big amounts of money from cryptocurrency ard it is now the hottest things. Traditional market are becoming more boring as they are not entertaining but the cryptocurrency market has alot of volatility that interest investors and also present the possibility of making profits if you are a very good trader. Cryptocurrency are still more of gambling and this is among what makes it very attractive as investors can make life changing money investing in memecoin and other altcoins overnight which is not possible in the traditional markets.

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I could name a dozen things on how crypto is the future rather than just traditional markets being volatile lmao. Especially if you're referring to the GME thing, this event is mostly a once-in-a-while event. Crypto is still far worse when it comes to price being driven by marketing. At least with traditional markets there's a lot of real money being made by the stocks you can invest in.

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the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

One thing I will give and support in this is that bitcoin is clear fact and we can foresee how far bitcoin can go with the historical data collected about it thus far from its inception even though we cannot speculate the exact price it’s going to be at that time. Bitcoin has a clear path that it has been following and always obeying, making it one of the reliable investments to venture into in this unrealistically inflationary cycle and changing economy.
Bitcoin is backed by historical data and traditional assets cannot boast of one because of the changing economy that’s affecting them. But this hasn’t made traditional assets more of gambling or becoming gambling, the crypto assets are being seen for such purpose now than the traditional assets.

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the future of investment that is,

It is.

And that's the reason why we're holding it because we know that someday many are going to realize that it has been a great asset that they have ignored long time ago.

We're still lucky that we got in quite early but this time, it's still quite early to say although the institutions are still there. There's more room to grow and improve for this market.

We haven't seen the peak yet but I guess that after a few years, we might be there. But forget about that for now because we're about to see the bull run this time.

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing),

Just as crypto, there are people that do trusts traditional markets and that's why many of them are staying stronger. And just as Bitcoin, they are here to stay.

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traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

Traditional assets are influenced by actual economics, 99% of the crypto trading is influenced by tweets and pumps and dumps.
You will never see the shares of a car manufacturer to jump 500% in a session because a football player has bought that band but you will see a shitcoin gain 5000% because some influencer endorsed it, crypto trading is pure gambling, you're gambling not just on the past but gambling on events that you imagine happening!

Besides, the whole thing is stupid, the world is such a big place If someone thinks that crypto is going to suddenly be the main investment is highly delusional, people will always need something else, they need to eat they need to live in a house, and they need to work somewhere to get that money, crypto is still not even 0.1% of that!

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the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over.

Crypto is also unpredictable but if you're holding Bitcoin, you know where it is going. There is no other direction than going up for it and that's the reason why we all want to have it. The traditional markets, they're also volatile and all of the investments that we know have their own categories and risks that we need to take.

Quote from: gunhell16 on June 04, 2024, 11:54:24 AM

traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

No, it's not. Crypto is still more of gambling than the traditional one like real estate.

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the future of investment, that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, and crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

Future for what? Future money in the whole world? This is what others think will become future money, because others believe that paper money or fiat will become useless because it will lose value. Though, right now, there is no denying that Bitcoin is very good in the long term, especially if you have a large amount of money at the moment.

Having a lot of money nowadays can really be said to be an advantage to buying a large amount of bitcoin after holding it long-term. Now, there is nothing wrong with what you are saying; maybe it will be stronger if you show another reference to say that what you are saying is true.

Well,you are right, though people think, their suffering will stop once they are into crypto, yes, they are actually right but that can only happen when they are ready for the risks involved, especially if the market is really fluctuating because it's not everytime one has to gain, at times in life, we do have a bad day or good day, which has be helping in any kind of decision during trading or investing, because it can aid us not to be a victim of any circumstances like having a lot of loss.

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Hmm, I won't say that, but yup there's decent space crypto as well, At the same time if you consider my views, even in outer space = other than crypto there are a bundle of opportunities in your local market to make huge returns. But yup crypto is easily accessible and you can try your luck there. Honestly, the beauty of is that it's not limited to the heavy gains in investment.

It can actually revolutionize the system whether it's our governance system, political system, or social system anything can be revolutionized in a decentralized way and on a transparent scale. My belief I crypto won't be considered an investment opportunity only shortly it will be adopted to development better systems the only government I've admired in this particular section is the state government of India they were quite active in the IT industry and made a couple of good announcements, but eventually everything stopped maybe due to elections but I consider India to be one first country to explore this sector.

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the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

I think most of people including me won't agree with you because the traditional market is volatile occasionally and you will find them unpredictable only if you don't have any knowledge to predict them. For example, from a general point of view, they might be unpredictable because of the ongoing war between Russia and Ukraine, Palestine, and Israel. Election in the US and many other factors (from the fundamental point of view) should be considered behind this unpredictable market.

While you say unpredictable many make good money out of it just because they can predict the market on the basis of there knowledge. I assume you must have some knowledge of crypto and you can predict the price (obviously to some extent only) so you think crypto market is more predictable but it should not be predictable but only in terms of long period.

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the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

What makes you think and say that traditional markets are more unpredictable than the cryptocurrency market? The cryptocurrency market is still very new, whereas the traditional financial markets are pretty mature and those who are into those markets understand them very well just like how we expect someone with a lot of experience in this market to understand the movements of different cryptocurrencies.

We always hear or say that it is never possible for anyone to predict the price of a cryptocurrency precisely, I know we make predictions based on historical data but that doesn't mean we can always be right, and even if we are right about its direction, we can never know the limits it can go to.

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the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

Crypto as investment or crypto as payment are not the same, it's better it has to be latter or there is no point of having decentralised monetary system when we are simply going to use it for bump and dump.

Although traditional market still in the stable level not becoming a gamble as you claim whether it's gold, silver, real estate probably the only exception is stocks which is becoming more unpredictable and centralized one tweet can change the fate of a company now.

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Quote from: capoeira on June 04, 2024, 10:21:28 AM

the future of investment, that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, and crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

Future for what? Future money in the whole world? This is what others think will become future money, because others believe that paper money or fiat will become useless because it will lose value. Though, right now, there is no denying that Bitcoin is very good in the long term, especially if you have a large amount of money at the moment.

Having a lot of money nowadays can really be said to be an advantage to buying a large amount of bitcoin after holding it long-term. Now, there is nothing wrong with what you are saying; maybe it will be stronger if you show another reference to say that what you are saying is true.

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we as traders want clear trends.
crypto has the advantage that there are still a lot of retail traders in comparison to markets that are dominated by algos run by gigantic financial institutions.

You're right to some extent but wrong at the same time, even crypto market is mostly dominated by the algos. Top level institutions and whale traders have some tech advantages which a normal trader can't even imagine. They have made their algorithms and at the same time trained their AI models to the levels that makes them advantageous in comparison to normal traders.

There are still so many trader who try to stay away from crypto market due to very high volatility and unpredictability. I know we crypto traders prefer it way more as compare to traditional markets but many still try to avoid investing in crypto market. The crypto market is of course a great way to generate wealth when you understand the things deeply but it's not for everyone.

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crypto has the advantage that there are still a lot of retail traders in comparison to markets that are dominated by algos run by gigantic financial institutions.

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Quote from: Bureau on June 03, 2024, 07:42:39 PM

the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

I think you forgot to mention the volatility in the cryptocurrency market, which for me's the biggest enemy right now compared to other traditional markets.
What I jus really admire in the cryptocurrency market is the accessibility, where you can easily invest, it's more accessible for many.

What can we do with the unique characteristics of a crypto currency? Although volatility may seem to be a disadvantage, on the contrary, it can be taken advantage of. Well, if you will invest in knowledge and skills in cryptocurrency, then you will know what I'm talking about. For example, through the years, the bitcoin price has grown a lot in terms of price, and because of its volatility, many people or investors actually have a good life because they invested in knowledge in order to navigate profitable bitcoin. Yes, crypto currency is risky, but if you can turn that risk into an opportunity, then it would actually be a good thing. You just need to have patience and be dedicated in order to hone the knowledge and skills you need to earn. Small sacrifices will eventually lead to success, and bitcoin or crypto currency is worth the risk, if you can make it into opportunity then you can make everything in your life in a positive way.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on June 03, 2024, 08:21:49 PM

the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

Can you provide a few historical data to support your thoughts. As crypto is still considered highly unpredictable market than traditional market. It is still hard to predict the price of Bitcoin in 2024 with all the historical data and patterns used.

predicting price is always the wrong starting point anyway. the historical data that support my thought are the well know Bitcoin cycles. we have clear trends that are surfable for the patient people

the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

I think you forgot to mention the volatility in the cryptocurrency market, which for me's the biggest enemy right now compared to other traditional markets.
What I jus really admire in the cryptocurrency market is the accessibility, where you can easily invest, it's more accessible for many.

volatility is just a case of timeframe and position sizing. if your time frames looks crazy, "zoom out". people look at 15min way to much. Bitcoin is daily, or even weekly

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the future of investment that is,

while traditional markets are becoming more and more unpredictable (prices driven by expectation/marketing), cryptos are drawing clear patterns over and over again.
the game is actually flipping over. traditional assets are becoming gambling, crypto is becoming fundamentally backed by historical data.

I think you forgot to mention the volatility in the cryptocurrency market, which for me's the biggest enemy right now compared to other traditional markets.
What I jus really admire in the cryptocurrency market is the accessibility, where you can easily invest, it's more accessible for many.

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