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Topic: Crypto Market Roiled by New Allegations Against Tether, Bitfinex (Read 187 times)

legendary
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I have an imagination that the people in the regulation board are also capitalists who sees tether and other corprations as threats to their investments and profits.

That's just an assumption. And even if your imagination were true, it doesn't mean that they should stop doing this. Tether is shady af and there is no other way to make sure they run their business properly if the government doesn't step in, and request any official authority to audit them, even though the government is corrupt as hell (though I'd rather hope they were the good guy).

If you don't want the government to step in, then don't use any stable coin created by a centralized company. Use DAI or other hard-coded stable coins.
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It's just that this news is like being made viral too early.
So after evidence after evidence being published, it is indeed a problem (my comment was three weeks ago by the way).

I have read a story like this before. The government and regulators are trying to see the loopholes of booming companies and they will do their best to expose everything in public as much as possible to defeat it.
I don't think the government and regulators are the bad guys, they only act this "harsh" to protect consumers AFAICT.
You should know that custodial account prone to embezzlement, and exchanges often used as money laundering service.
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I have read a story like this before. The government and regulators are trying to see the loopholes of booming companies and they will do their best to expose everything in public as much as possible to defeat it. Its just that I dont really understand the point. I have an imagination that the people in the regulation board are also capitalists who sees tether and other corprations as threats to their investments and profits.
If you don't understand it and then read this news https://www.coindesk.com/tether-ordered-to-freeze-transfers-to-bitfinex-by-new-york-supreme-court
They are trying to do the best to take care their investors and is it wrong? The fact that tether has been doing something shady to the its company and this has a lot of potential to put investor in a big risk by use tether as their reserved funds.
legendary
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I have read a story like this before. The government and regulators are trying to see the loopholes of booming companies and they will do their best to expose everything in public as much as possible to defeat it. Its just that I dont really understand the point. I have an imagination that the people in the regulation board are also capitalists who sees tether and other corprations as threats to their investments and profits.
legendary
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If people really believes that tether is holding 1 to 1 ratio of all their dollars in banks then they already deserve to lose money. I have been involved in crypto for longer than 6 years now and I have never really trusted the tether token enough to ever own a single of them, not even on any exchange to make any trades from bitcoin to tether or any coin to tether and not even once.

That is why I feel fine when I learn that they are doubt to have as much money as they claim to have and they can try to prove to us that in fact they do have that much money but considering they are using a third world country bank in bahamas that can be manipulated the way they want (after all they have a lot of money which equals to power in those small banks) and that would mean they can't really guarantee since we don't trust them.
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Tether really is a problem:

According to the Wall Street Journal, Bitfinex used Tether to mask missing reserves:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/bitfinex-used-tether-reserves-to-mask-missing-850-million-probe-finds-11556227031

I think the gist of the allegation is this: there used to be dollar reserves matching tether. Then bitfinex lost some money and used the tether reserves to cover it. After that, though tether claimed it was backed with dollars, it wasn't.
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I also feel the lack of evidence in this Tether case. Yes, indeed sooner or later Tether that acts as a bank but without close supervision will have problems.
It's just that this news is like being made viral too early.
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Tether and Bitfinex have always been the hotbed for controversy in the cryptomarket due to their shady dealings with relatively unknown companies and undisclosed assets, especially Tether. These controversies have always lingered between the two companies and are making a comeback now that bitcoin has finally found some kind of a good streak. Perhaps you're right that the media is helping suppress bitcoin's growth by timely publishing such reports and look where we are right now.
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The timing of negative bitcoin news stories often coincides with a spike in bitcoin's price. Almost as if the mainstream media deliberately publishes stories intended to contain the price of bitcoin and prevent it from gaining momentum. Preventing bitcoin market swings from developing into the skyrocketing asset we witnessed in 2017.

There have been many past stories published about bitfinex and tether without real evidence presented to support alleged claims. There were past news stories about china allegedly planning to ban bitcoin mining in the country which coincided with recent spikes in btc price. If bitcoin's price continues to trend upwards I suspect we could see other attempts made by the media to push bitcoin's value down as so often has seemed to happen in the past few years of bitcoin's history.

I would be interested to know if anyone shares the same impressions I do in regard to bitcoin's value growth often being beaten back and repressed by the mainstream media publishing negative news stories about bitcoin which failed to pan out or materialize. Am I simply imagining things? What do people think.



It's not a conspiracy. If you look at coinmarketcap today, tether is #2 for 24hour trading volume, after bitcoin. So tether likely had something to do with bitcoin's price rise.

I just with tether and bitfinex would go away. They're a pox on the cryptocurrency space.
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One of the world’s most widely traded virtual currencies faces renewed doubts about its stability, after New York’s top cop accused the coin’s issuer of participating in a cover-up to hide the loss of about $850 million in client and corporate funds.

The allegations against Tether and the operator of cryptocurrency exchange Bitfinex, announced by the New York attorney general on Thursday, have revived doubts about Tether’s claim that each of its so-called stablecoins is backed by $1 of assets -- a feature that gives the coins a central role in crypto markets around the world.

A loss of faith in Tether would be a major blow to traders who rely on it as a substitute for dollars. Virtual currencies tracked by CoinMarketCap.com lost $10 billion of value within an hour of the attorney general’s statement and Tether slid 1.4 percent.

Doubts about the most popular stablecoin resurface
This isn’t the first time that Tether and Bitfinex have faced scrutiny from U.S. authorities. The U.S. Justice Department is investigating whether traders used the stablecoin to manipulate the price of Bitcoin, Bloomberg reported in November, while the the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission sent subpoenas to Bitfinex and Tether in late 2017. Heightened regulatory scrutiny is one reason why institutional investors have mostly steered clear of the industry.

Bitfinex, unable to find a bank that would work with it, entrusted more than $1 billion in co-mingled client and corporate deposits last year to a Panamanian firm, Crypto Capital Corp., according to the civil case brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James, a Democrat who took office in January. Bitfinex was allegedly using that firm as an intermediary to wire dollars to traders.

“Despite the sheer amount of money it handed over, Bitfinex never signed a contract or other agreement with Crypto Capital,” the attorney general wrote to the court. By mid- to late-2018, executives at Bitfinex and Tether suspected Crypto Capital had lost, stolen or absconded with the money, and they haven’t be able to find or recover roughly $850 million, she said. “None of that has been disclosed to investors.”

The attorney general’s court filings “were written in bad faith and riddled with false assertions,” Bitfinex said in a statement on its website. There was no loss of funds, Bitfinex and Tether are financially strong, and the firms are cooperating with the attorney general’s office, the company said.

Judge’s Order
Justice Debra James in Manhattan issued an order barring iFinex and Tether from any further violations of state law while the case proceeds. They must also retain all documents tied to the probe, court records show.

After the $850 million loss, executives at Bitfinex and Tether cooked up a series of “conflicted corporate transactions” in which Bitfinex gave itself access to up to $900 million of Tether’s cash reserves, which Tether repeatedly told investors fully backed its coin one-to-one, the attorney general said in a statement.

Correspondence between a senior Bitfinex executive and Crypto Capital included in the attorney general’s complaint suggests the exchange was under immense pressure in October to gain access to funds amid a spike in client withdrawal requests. “Please understand all this could be extremely dangerous for everybody, the entire crypto community,” the executive wrote, according to the attorney general. “BTC could tank to below 1k if we don’t act quickly.”

At the time of the correspondence, Bitcoin was trading at around $6,500. It dropped 4.7 percent to $5,236.03 at 12:10 p.m. in Hong Kong on Friday.

“It definitely brings Tether’s credibility into question,” said Eric Turner, director of research at Messari, which tracks cryptocurrencies. “It’s been well known that they have struggled to maintain banking relationships, but this is the first I have heard about them losing access to funds.”

Banks’ Reluctance
Major banks have been unwilling -- or at least reluctant -- to offer financial services to many cryptocurrency ventures because the market’s opacity makes it difficult to police the flow of funds and detect money laundering, as required by laws in the U.S. and elsewhere.

While that has helped make Tether attractive as a stand-in for the dollar, it’s also been a headache for operating its related platform, Bitfinex.

Bitfinex and Tether’s banking problems began in 2017 when they lost relationships with Taiwanese banks as well as a link to the U.S. through Wells Fargo & Co., which acted as a U.S. correspondent bank for the Asian lenders.

For people to buy into cryptocurrencies, their dollars, euros and yen must make it into the system somehow. In an article last year, Bloomberg described how Crypto Capital entered the equation: Through its president, a Canadian in Panama City named Ivan Manuel Molina Lee, Crypto Capital used links to banks in Poland and Portugal.

Crypto Capital and Lee offered no comment at the time, and there was no immediate response to a message sent to a representative for them on Thursday. Neither are named as defendants in New York’s case.

Alleged Cover-Up
To prop up Bitfinex after the loss, the executives transferred $625 million “out of Tether’s legitimate bank account” in November 2018, the case alleges, without naming that bank. In return, Bitfinex “credited” $625 million to Tether’s accounts with Crypto Capital.

“That ‘credit’ was illusory,” the attorney general wrote, because Bitfinex knew that Crypto Capital was refusing or unable to process withdrawals or return funds. In effect, executives “fraudulently shifted most or all of Bitfinex’s risk of loss of several hundred million dollars onto Tether’s balance sheet, but continued to represent to the market that Tethers were fully ‘backed’ by U.S. dollars sitting safely in a bank account. They were not.”

In 2015, New York created the BitLicense, a special permit that applies to virtual-currency exchanges that has sometimes drawn criticism from crypto ventures for being too burdensome.

“New York state has led the way in requiring virtual currency businesses to operate according to the law,” said James said in her statement Thursday. “We will continue to stand up for investors and seek justice on their behalf when misled or cheated by any of these companies.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-25/bitfinex-operator-accused-by-new-york-of-850-million-coverup

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The timing of negative bitcoin news stories often coincides with a spike in bitcoin's price. Almost as if the mainstream media deliberately publishes stories intended to contain the price of bitcoin and prevent it from gaining momentum. Preventing bitcoin market swings from developing into the skyrocketing asset we witnessed in 2017.

There have been many past stories published about bitfinex and tether without real evidence presented to support alleged claims. There were past news stories about china allegedly planning to ban bitcoin mining in the country which coincided with recent spikes in btc price. If bitcoin's price continues to trend upwards I suspect we could see other attempts made by the media to push bitcoin's value down as so often has seemed to happen in the past few years of bitcoin's history.

I would be interested to know if anyone shares the same impressions I do in regard to bitcoin's value growth often being beaten back and repressed by the mainstream media publishing negative news stories about bitcoin which failed to pan out or materialize. Am I simply imagining things? What do people think.

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