Crypto on older systems (DOS, BASIC, etc...)

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Quote from: Abiky on April 23, 2020, 04:31:48 PM

It's no secret that older systems are being phased out by newer ones as technology evolves in the mainstream world. Despite the latest advancements in technology, there's still a small fraction of people worldwide that rely on outdated systems based on DOS or even the BASIC programming language.

I was wondering if it's somehow possible to create a cryptocurrency that would rely on older technologies? Running a blockchain network under DOS, BASIC, or outdated Windows operating systems like Windows 98 or Windows ME could further contribute towards the adoption of crypto worldwide. I know that modern systems are superior in every way, but not everyone (especially in third-world countries) has access to this.

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I think it is difficult to use an old windows for crypto. Because the old windows has few lacks in it. The lacks can influence our movement in joining crytimes.But, it is not a mistakes ti try it. But it will takes times. Just be smart to use it.

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Quote from: Abiky on April 29, 2020, 02:46:34 PM

Quote from: Tipstar on April 27, 2020, 10:37:04 PM

The newer OS are actually the graphical improvement of the older ones. I don't think anybody would be using DOS or BASIC unless for the specific fields that has been using it. i.e. no personal computer in the world would be a DOS or BASIC. It would be possible to make crypto work in a DOS computer that's on modern hardware but it won't run on a 44mb disk.

Limited storage space is a huge limitation for running crypto on older systems. I've figured that it wouldn't be feasible to develop a cryptocurrency with old programming languages on old operating systems. Crypto hashing algorithms require some processing power which could make a developer's life impossible with low-end CPUs. Imagine running a Blockchain network on a single-core CPU with very low RAM, small storage space, and a slow data-transfer rate. It'll take months or even years to design a cryptocurrency of a large scale like Bitcoin on it.

I'll be surprised to see someone design a cryptocurrency on a system which uses outdated operating systems like MS-DOS, Windows 95, or Windows ME with very limited hardware requirements. It's not impossible to do it, but not entirely feasible for today's standards. People from third-world countries would be forced to get a modern system (either a PC or mobile device) just to get access to crypto. As long as anyone will be able to use crypto in the most affordable way possible, nothing else matters. Just my opinion

Look at what Temtum has deployed - a very small scalable blockchain to run in countries like africa - on older hardware while still keeping the cryptography modern !

It can be done ! - Temtum has done it and deployed their mainnet

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Quote from: Coyster on April 23, 2020, 04:59:05 PM

The newer technologies imo is even easier to access and more convenient to use, even for people living in third world countries than this older models. I believe it's fallacious to think that outdated systems would be more convenient for people. For example it costs nothing to be connected on the bitcoin blockchain network, you only need a smartphone, data and a bitcoin wallet.

I would add that older technologies are way less effective in general. So even a person from third world country with poor pc setup better be mining newer coins instead of older systems in order to get more profit

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Quote from: Tipstar on April 27, 2020, 10:37:04 PM

The newer OS are actually the graphical improvement of the older ones. I don't think anybody would be using DOS or BASIC unless for the specific fields that has been using it. i.e. no personal computer in the world would be a DOS or BASIC. It would be possible to make crypto work in a DOS computer that's on modern hardware but it won't run on a 44mb disk.

Limited storage space is a huge limitation for running crypto on older systems. I've figured that it wouldn't be feasible to develop a cryptocurrency with old programming languages on old operating systems. Crypto hashing algorithms require some processing power which could make a developer's life impossible with low-end CPUs. Imagine running a Blockchain network on a single-core CPU with very low RAM, small storage space, and a slow data-transfer rate. It'll take months or even years to design a cryptocurrency of a large scale like Bitcoin on it.

I'll be surprised to see someone design a cryptocurrency on a system which uses outdated operating systems like MS-DOS, Windows 95, or Windows ME with very limited hardware requirements. It's not impossible to do it, but not entirely feasible for today's standards. People from third-world countries would be forced to get a modern system (either a PC or mobile device) just to get access to crypto. As long as anyone will be able to use crypto in the most affordable way possible, nothing else matters. Just my opinion

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The newer OS are actually the graphical improvement of the older ones. I don't think anybody would be using DOS or BASIC unless for the specific fields that has been using it. i.e. no personal computer in the world would be a DOS or BASIC. It would be possible to make crypto work in a DOS computer that's on modern hardware but it won't run on a 44mb disk.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 24, 2020, 12:38:47 AM

I think this is possible, remember that the newest system evolved from the old and traditional programming languages. But the problem is that is it going to be complicated if we are going to used those older systems. I still remember programming Foxpro in the mid 90's with all those drop down menus. And then Visual Foxpro come in, similar to C->Visual C->C++ Object programming. Doable but not advisable, IMHO.

It might be possible, although not entirely feasible. Since older systems have many limitations (low RAM, sluggish CPU, etc.), cryptocurrencies will be unable to process a substantial amount of TPS on the network. This is will only work for learning/educational purposes than anything else. I'm guessing that third-world countries have at least "modern systems" that are compatible with today's crypto standards. If that's the case, anyone can still use crypto without breaking the bank.

I'd be surprised to see an implementation of Bitcoin on older programming languages like BASIC, COBOL, or even FORTRAN. Running Bitcoin on MS-DOS or even Windows 95 through Windows ME, could further spur the adoption of crypto worldwide. I'd imagine that block propagation and sync times will be even slower with these OSes, but still practical to send/receive crypto transactions with them.

At least, the idea is there. Making it a reality is another story. As long as people in even the poorest countries are able to use crypto for daily payments, nothing else matters. Just my thoughts Grin

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I think this is possible, remember that the newest system evolved from the old and traditional programming languages. But the problem is that is it going to be complicated if we are going to used those older systems. I still remember programming Foxpro in the mid 90's with all those drop down menus. And then Visual Foxpro come in, similar to C->Visual C->C++ Object programming. Doable but not advisable, IMHO.

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As for developers, I'm sure that they can do it with those outdated operating systems but there's a big risk for this. They are no longer updated with their security so it can basically be attacked by someone who's expert on this matter.
For DOS, I don't think there's a need to make a blockchain through it. We should move forward to the future and the security is always the biggest matter for this.

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Quote from: Abiky on April 23, 2020, 04:31:48 PM

It's no secret that older systems are being phased out by newer ones as technology evolves in the mainstream world. Despite the latest advancements in technology, there's still a small fraction of people worldwide that rely on outdated systems based on DOS or even the BASIC programming language.

I was wondering if it's somehow possible to create a cryptocurrency that would rely on older technologies? Running a blockchain network under DOS, BASIC, or outdated Windows operating systems like Windows 98 or Windows ME could further contribute towards the adoption of crypto worldwide. I know that modern systems are superior in every way, but not everyone (especially in third-world countries) has access to this.

What are your thoughts? Huh

Please consider the security implications of this, running Blockchains on EOL systems would not be feasible nowadays.

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The newer technologies imo is even easier to access and more convenient to use, even for people living in third world countries than this older models. I believe it's fallacious to think that outdated systems would be more convenient for people. For example it costs nothing to be connected on the bitcoin blockchain network, you only need a smartphone, data and a bitcoin wallet.

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It's no secret that older systems are being phased out by newer ones as technology evolves in the mainstream world. Despite the latest advancements in technology, there's still a small fraction of people worldwide that rely on outdated systems based on DOS or even the BASIC programming language.

I was wondering if it's somehow possible to create a cryptocurrency that would rely on older technologies? Running a blockchain network under DOS, BASIC, or outdated Windows operating systems like Windows 98 or Windows ME could further contribute towards the adoption of crypto worldwide. I know that modern systems are superior in every way, but not everyone (especially in third-world countries) has access to this.

What are your thoughts? Huh

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