Crypto start-ups receiving copious funding

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Quote from: noormcs5 on November 22, 2021, 02:00:08 PM

Also i think no one invest for long term in any new project.

You would be wrong if you say "no one". Considering the majority of people buying into newly launched startups are also newbies in investment, the amount of fresh meat coming in is much higher then old meat. They are more likely to think of holding them for long term, not knowing that majority of the projects end up being pump and dump.

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You can gain some money trading a new project and leave it before it get delisted or fail to deliver the milestones.

True, one can. But it is not always going to be that mindset for investors. With funding becomes relatively decentralized, unregulated assets come into the picture and with that the risks that they carry for gullible investors which they would not know coming from a regulated fiat market. To really get into that dump when the bubble biggest mindset, such investors would have to gain some experience and that costs on their already invested money.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on November 16, 2021, 12:01:56 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on November 15, 2021, 12:52:46 AM

Crowding projects are mostly scams and they take our money and forget about the development of the project. Some may be honest and good ones but it is difficult to find them.

Crowdfunded projects are another level of scams and searching for a project worth funding yourself means trying to look for a needle in a haystack, added on top the incessant hype-promotions done by "Influencers" only adds to the cesspool of information that one needs to go through before making a decision, very rarely can anybody make an unbiased decision to fund or not.

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Rather then spending on the crowd funding, i keep an eye on new projects listing on exchanges and then invest in the good ones.

Even if a project gets listed on an exchange, does that mean the project is worth investing in? No. Dont forget the term called delisting and exchanges delist coins when they stop getting their fees from the project or get a hint that the project might be a scam/vaporware. To be able to consider a project worth buying, you need to have contact with their developers and whether the project really solves a problem instead of beating round the bush. But this rarely is done by investors, they are all in it for the quick cash grab.

I understand this that exchange can delist the project after it is listed but these are rare cases. Also i think no one invest for long term in any new project.
You can gain some money trading a new project and leave it before it get delisted or fail to deliver the milestones.

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Quote from: paxmao on November 14, 2021, 04:27:46 PM

Lastly, Bitcoin will benefit from additional visibility in any case and this may contribute to the ecosystem insofar any of the future giants ops for offering services or bring more marketcap in general.

Well, we can say that Bitcoin benefits from all the stories around! Bitcoin was connected, and misinterpreted, with many scams... but in the end, all that was just free marketing! Who did quick research would find out that it was some anonymous crypto scam that has nothing with Bitcoin actually!

Many of us are in crypto for years, and who expected to see Doge at this price? Where this DeFi comes from? Squid meme coin, along with Shiba Inu, is making a progress!? I guess it's the same old, there were good projects out there often followed by many scams projects! At least we in crypto know how this game is being played... This will last for years, and we will see many more projects with copious funding, and all kinds of funding... be sure in that!

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It is reasonable and logical because most of them are making a ton of money back for the investors.
What you should realize is that most investors only care about their returns and not how well the future is holding for the project. If they could make some profit back then that is all they care about. Of course, most of the time it means that the project is doing well, but they could literally support a scam that pays them back if it means they profit from it.

So, crypto sphere is a place where you could invest into startups, they could build a simple exchange, literally something thousands do, and if they could get enough volume then you would get profit forever, it is a great business.

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Ah, this is when the famous phrase "it's like the dotcom bubble" starts echoing.
I think it's normal when a new and hyped tech receives massive funding, but we can also expect most of them will end up fail (just like others have pointed out).
This period is like the golden age of crypto startups, so better participate as a cryptopreneur (ethical of course)! However, IMO the 2017/2018 period is more massive than today, or maybe I just feel nostalgic?

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Quote from: paxmao on November 14, 2021, 04:27:46 PM

Capital Risk investment funds and "angels" are flocking to start-ups on the Crypto sphere by more than 10 fold last´s years. Some outlets even say that the next giant may come from companies that have cryptocurrencies or perhaps blockchain at the heart of their company´s vision.

For me, this is quite expected, considering that more and more people are starting to realize that a lot of money can be made there. Some might compare the whole situation to the gold rush that hit almost the whole world in the 19th century, which resulted in many getting rich, but also that many lost everything they had. Today we can talk about digital crypto fever, which is especially pronounced at a time when the crypto market is experiencing significant growth.

Bitcoin of course benefits from all of this, but you should know that the cryptocurrency market is incredibly diverse with thousands of coins/tokens that many perceive as some kind of cheap Bitcoin and a lot of money goes in that direction. Everyone hopes that pumping up the price of Bitcoin will result in a rise in altcoin prices, and when things go south, everyone will blame Bitcoin as always.

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Quote from: cabron on November 16, 2021, 01:47:33 AM

Delisting had been happening since, it's the worse when someone plans to hold for the long term and then discovers he has zero because the token was delisted and the market died. Crowdfunding however will be new to new investors in crypto particularly to those who are holding ADA. ITs just like the cycle when ETH was just starting where new projects sprouts every minute asking for funds in their ICO phase.

Coin delisting is one of the worst things that can happen to anyone. I have experienced this once, when I had a particular coin in my wallet and after some weeks the coin was delisted and it started showing me zero worth. I had about 500 units of that particular coin, and that day I logged into my wallet and noticed that there was a little decrease in the amount that’s stored in my wallet, so I decided to check what’s happening and noticed that it was this particular coin and that it is showing a zero worth.

It was quite painful but I had no other option or know what to do about it. That was among the things that discouraged me from investing in new coins, because I usually feel that most of them are just some fake projects that might end up doing the same.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on November 16, 2021, 12:01:56 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on November 15, 2021, 12:52:46 AM

Crowding projects are mostly scams and they take our money and forget about the development of the project. Some may be honest and good ones but it is difficult to find them.

Crowdfunded projects are another level of scams and searching for a project worth funding yourself means trying to look for a needle in a haystack, added on top the incessant hype-promotions done by "Influencers" only adds to the cesspool of information that one needs to go through before making a decision, very rarely can anybody make an unbiased decision to fund or not.

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Rather then spending on the crowd funding, i keep an eye on new projects listing on exchanges and then invest in the good ones.

Even if a project gets listed on an exchange, does that mean the project is worth investing in? No. Dont forget the term called delisting and exchanges delist coins when they stop getting their fees from the project or get a hint that the project might be a scam/vaporware. To be able to consider a project worth buying, you need to have contact with their developers and whether the project really solves a problem instead of beating round the bush. But this rarely is done by investors, they are all in it for the quick cash grab.

Delisting had been happening since, it's the worse when someone plans to hold for the long term and then discovers he has zero because the token was delisted and the market died. Crowdfunding however will be new to new investors in crypto particularly to those who are holding ADA. ITs just like the cycle when ETH was just starting where new projects sprouts every minute asking for funds in their ICO phase.

Google changing its name would be funny but who knows, we didn't expect Facebook will do it. It only appears like they are planning ahead as cryptocurrency is adopting.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on November 15, 2021, 12:52:46 AM

Crowding projects are mostly scams and they take our money and forget about the development of the project. Some may be honest and good ones but it is difficult to find them.

Crowdfunded projects are another level of scams and searching for a project worth funding yourself means trying to look for a needle in a haystack, added on top the incessant hype-promotions done by "Influencers" only adds to the cesspool of information that one needs to go through before making a decision, very rarely can anybody make an unbiased decision to fund or not.

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Rather then spending on the crowd funding, i keep an eye on new projects listing on exchanges and then invest in the good ones.

Even if a project gets listed on an exchange, does that mean the project is worth investing in? No. Dont forget the term called delisting and exchanges delist coins when they stop getting their fees from the project or get a hint that the project might be a scam/vaporware. To be able to consider a project worth buying, you need to have contact with their developers and whether the project really solves a problem instead of beating round the bush. But this rarely is done by investors, they are all in it for the quick cash grab.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on November 15, 2021, 12:52:46 AM

Quote from: hatshepsut93 on November 14, 2021, 06:41:57 PM

I wouldn't spend a penny on those crypto and blockchain startups, they aren't going to make any profit, either because they will fail naturally or because they were created just to defraud investors. Crypto sphere is not productive, it's not creating anything valuable for the people, it's all just one big speculation and selling practically useless assets to bigger fools.

Crowding projects are mostly scams and they take our money and forget about the development of the project. Some may be honest and good ones but it is difficult to find them. Rather then spending on the crowd funding, i keep an eye on new projects listing on exchanges and then invest in the good ones.

That's an equivalent of investing in public company, and it still doesn't reduce the change of getting scammed. Scammers are very good at pretending of running a "good project", they will fake activity, make wonderful promises, bribe the press to write about their project in positive light and so on.

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Quote from: arallmuus on November 15, 2021, 02:21:27 PM

Quote from: fiulpro on November 15, 2021, 08:35:30 AM

Now one must understand the fact that:
About 90% of the start-ups ends in failure
(Stats taken from google) which does mean that investing in a startup is immensely risky. Even more when we are talking about crypto based projects. There are around 317 crypto based startups around the world ( data taken from google) which are more or so functioning at a stable level. But at the end of the day, one cannot ignore the failure aspect hands down.

In the end of the day, the world will only remember the startup that made it huge though. There are tons of startup that tries to achieve what facebook does, uber and all others succesfull startup but no one will really remember them because they didnt make it. Investing in startup is pretty much speculative investment already so either its a startup on crypto space or not, it doesnt really matter

Quote from: fiulpro on November 15, 2021, 08:35:30 AM

That's exactly why I don't really trust start-ups because we never know which one to trust ?? It's always a risky space, an unsafe area

Which is why it is speculative, if it works then you are going to get insane return from it

Only few of these start-ups can hit it off in the market. Most of them will die down without entering into the mainstream.
So yes, some of these investors will be burnt out as some of the team can't deliver their targets.
We will only count from our fingers those that will be successful and known to the market.
That's the risk of putting your money to these start-ups, you should know how to gauge your possibility of winning and losing once you see their pitches in public.

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Quote from: paxmao on November 14, 2021, 04:27:46 PM

Capital Risk investment funds and "angels" are flocking to start-ups on the Crypto sphere by more than 10 fold last´s years. Some outlets even say that the next giant may come from companies that have cryptocurrencies or perhaps blockchain at the heart of their company´s vision.

This is an important distinction, as some companies may take advantage of the underlying technologies while other may reach the service market related to crypto. I believe Coinbase is well placed for the later, but as more funds flow in, the next Google´s name could be Coingle. Also, for those in Altcoins, please do not ever confuse proper stock investment or funding series with buying a token or an Atl.

Lastly, Bitcoin will benefit from additional visibility in any case and this may contribute to the ecosystem insofar any of the future giants ops for offering services or bring more marketcap in general.

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2021/11/13/will-the-craze-for-crypto-startups-ever-produce-the-next-tech-giant
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/funding-spree-continues-for-local-crypto-companies/articleshow/87095594.cms

In some ways this can be seen as a bad sign because this is often what happens before a massive downturn. Just look at all the hype about cannabis companies a couple years ago and the many startup bubbles before that, back to the Dotcom bubble era and beyond). However it is hard to gauge whether it is "overdone" because there is so much cheap cash and credit sloshing around the world right now. Even if these startup companies are potentially receiving too much money, it would not necessarily be tied to the long term value of the underlying asset - the blockchain, Bitcoin or various other cryptocurrencies, it just means a few company investors might get burned.

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Quote from: fiulpro on November 15, 2021, 08:35:30 AM

Now one must understand the fact that:
About 90% of the start-ups ends in failure
(Stats taken from google) which does mean that investing in a startup is immensely risky. Even more when we are talking about crypto based projects. There are around 317 crypto based startups around the world ( data taken from google) which are more or so functioning at a stable level. But at the end of the day, one cannot ignore the failure aspect hands down.

In the end of the day, the world will only remember the startup that made it huge though. There are tons of startup that tries to achieve what facebook does, uber and all others succesfull startup but no one will really remember them because they didnt make it. Investing in startup is pretty much speculative investment already so either its a startup on crypto space or not, it doesnt really matter

Quote from: fiulpro on November 15, 2021, 08:35:30 AM

That's exactly why I don't really trust start-ups because we never know which one to trust ?? It's always a risky space, an unsafe area

Which is why it is speculative, if it works then you are going to get insane return from it

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More number of Venture Capitalists are getting involved with cryptocurrency start-ups. Same time there are more potential projects that are in a state of hanging whether to proceed forward or stop development. These days the investments weren't made looking upon the project, but upon the way it generates money and the capital gains can be made. Investors aren't much into projects that have the stabilized growth, they always look for immediate results out of the market. Everytime this won't happen, and this is not market development. What these people do are just another kind of gambling.

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The cryptocurrency and blockchain space has been generating a lot of interest from the venture capitalists lately. In my country, where the legal status of crypto is still not known, we have a unicorn startup in crypto service space. So you can understand how much interest it is really generating where the BCs are ignoring the legalities and investing in this industry. They are well aware that they might loose the entire investment in case my country decides to ban crypto.

But that's good because crypto ecosystem needs services built around it to make it more viable for the common people to enter into the market. Which ultimately increase the adoption.

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Now one must understand the fact that:
About 90% of the start-ups ends in failure
(Stats taken from google) which does mean that investing in a startup is immensely risky. Even more when we are talking about crypto based projects. There are around 317 crypto based startups around the world ( data taken from google) which are more or so functioning at a stable level. But at the end of the day, one cannot ignore the failure aspect hands down.
Crowd funding campaigns are also a risky option since at the end of the day sometimes you cannot even sell the token of they might even get listed anywhere which sparks more doubts about them yet again.
That's exactly why I don't really trust start-ups because we never know which one to trust ?? It's always a risky space, an unsafe area which might end up bad for small scale investors. Investors needs to understand that these choices are really hard to make and they cannot just close their eyes and set it in stone. It's better to invest in cryptocurrencies (my opinion entirely) takes away some of the risk.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on November 14, 2021, 04:38:57 PM

Didn't we have the same situation starting as far back as the last cycle, so around 4 years ago? It seems every investor was flocking towards any crypto startup and start-ups, in general, were throwing blockchain into anything to see what sticks. It ain't great, but it seems to be a natural progression before the usability of the technology gets kinda pigeonholed.

Nothing really new here though, as a lot of VCs are like that even in more "traditional" tech startups. If you have so much capital, you can totally afford to sort of "spray and pray", hoping that at least 5-8 out of 100 early stage investments would make it big.

Absolutely, that is exactly how venture funds work, they know that nearly 90% of the companies will be broke, however the methodology for doing so has changed a lot from the mere money raining of the first internet bubble. They put a bit on many companies, but they do not put full amounts, just enough for an initial stage of projects and then they measure progress. This lean approach yield enough good results as to make it better in many ways than traditional investment.

To put it plainly, they loose small and win big.

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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on November 14, 2021, 06:41:57 PM

I wouldn't spend a penny on those crypto and blockchain startups, they aren't going to make any profit, either because they will fail naturally or because they were created just to defraud investors. Crypto sphere is not productive, it's not creating anything valuable for the people, it's all just one big speculation and selling practically useless assets to bigger fools.

Crowding projects are mostly scams and they take our money and forget about the development of the project. Some may be honest and good ones but it is difficult to find them. Rather then spending on the crowd funding, i keep an eye on new projects listing on exchanges and then invest in the good ones.

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Quote from: TheNineClub on November 14, 2021, 04:38:57 PM

Didn't we have the same situation starting as far back as the last cycle, so around 4 years ago? It seems every investor was flocking towards any crypto startup and start-ups, in general, were throwing blockchain into anything to see what sticks. It ain't great, but it seems to be a natural progression before the usability of the technology gets kinda pigeonholed.

Nothing really new here though, as a lot of VCs are like that even in more "traditional" tech startups. If you have so much capital, you can totally afford to sort of "spray and pray", hoping that at least 5-8 out of 100 early stage investments would make it big.

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Quote from: paxmao on November 14, 2021, 04:27:46 PM

the next Google´s name could be Coingle. Also, for those in Altcoins, please do not ever confuse proper stock investment or funding series with buying a token or an Atl.

I don't know, man....Google improved upon other search engines and blew them all away within a relatively short period of time, which is why they are where they're at now. Bitcoin may have grown significantly as an investment of choice for a lot of new people since its inception, but so far blockchain technology hasn't been adopted by the masses or integrated into anything useful in everyday life as far as I know--and you'd think that with all of those ICO projects that got introduced circa 2018, there would have been some progress in that area.

So while it's nice that there are some angel investors trying to help blockchain startups, I wonder if they're just betting on anything and everything, hoping that there's a winning lottery ticket somewhere in the mix. That's basically what those investors do anyway, but with this I'm not sure there's anything that's going to be nearly as successful as Google or Facebook.

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I wouldn't spend a penny on those crypto and blockchain startups, they aren't going to make any profit, either because they will fail naturally or because they were created just to defraud investors. Crypto sphere is not productive, it's not creating anything valuable for the people, it's all just one big speculation and selling practically useless assets to bigger fools.

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Quote from: paxmao on November 14, 2021, 04:27:46 PM

Capital Risk investment funds and "angels" are flocking to start-ups on the Crypto sphere by more than 10 fold last´s years. Some outlets even say that the next giant may come from companies that have cryptocurrencies or perhaps blockchain at the heart of their company´s vision.

Its not really surprising isnt it considering that the crypto space is kinda speculative right now especially in 2021. Alot of people wish to be the first to get into this space especially after they missed out of facebook a decade ago.

Anyway could this also be something to do with facebook announcing metaverse as well though? Some new crypto startup could be striving to achieve something in that area as well. Im not sure how metaverse might works yet but there is a possibility of crypto integration into it though

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Didn't we have the same situation starting as far back as the last cycle, so around 4 years ago? It seems every investor was flocking towards any crypto startup and start-ups, in general, were throwing blockchain into anything to see what sticks. It ain't great, but it seems to be a natural progression before the usability of the technology gets kinda pigeonholed.

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Capital Risk investment funds and "angels" are flocking to start-ups on the Crypto sphere by more than 10 fold last´s years. Some outlets even say that the next giant may come from companies that have cryptocurrencies or perhaps blockchain at the heart of their company´s vision.

This is an important distinction, as some companies may take advantage of the underlying technologies while other may reach the service market related to crypto. I believe Coinbase is well placed for the later, but as more funds flow in, the next Google´s name could be Coingle. Also, for those in Altcoins, please do not ever confuse proper stock investment or funding series with buying a token or an Atl.

Lastly, Bitcoin will benefit from additional visibility in any case and this may contribute to the ecosystem insofar any of the future giants ops for offering services or bring more marketcap in general.

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2021/11/13/will-the-craze-for-crypto-startups-ever-produce-the-next-tech-giant
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/funding-spree-continues-for-local-crypto-companies/articleshow/87095594.cms

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