Topic: cryptodevil is assisting a criminal to steal 480 bitcoins (Read 701 times)

Spot on. Exactly my point!

I would point out that the btc-e database was hacked/leaked some time ago, although I am not sure exactly what information was leaked, it would not be unreasonable to be able to deduct a decent amount of the information that seven guy provided to btc-e from a DB leak.

I would also point out that financial institutions will require different amounts of identity verifications for different withdrawal amounts. For example, I can write a check to myself for $100, walk into the bank and cash it without having to show any kind of ID, nor swipe my ATM card (it is possible the teller recognize me), while if I want to withdraw larger amounts of money, I will need to swipe my ATM card/enter my PIN, and for even larger amounts, I will need to swipe my ATM card/PIN, and show two additional forms of ID to get cash. Similarly, btc-e might require different identity verifications when restoring access to accounts with differing amounts.

I would not think it is unreasonable for btc-e to ask that a withdrawal be only sent to a previously used deposit/withdrawal address, especially when nearly a half million dollars is involved.

As to the OP's allegation that cryptodevil is an alt of the steven guy and/or is expecting a cut of any amounts recovered by steven, I will leave that up to the spectators. I have not seen any solid evidence that this is the case, and I would not say that cryptodevil is acting especially different towards a potential scammer (btc-e in this case) then he usually does.

edit: I would also point out that no policy/procedure of a financial institution is a replacement of good judgment. If all the criteria to process a withdrawal is met, but there is a good reason not to process a withdrawal (that is outside of any procedure), then the withdrawal should not be processed.

Someone should just shit on his face already and get this over with. 

Steven009 can request a court order, so what is the problem? If I am owed such a large amount and did nothing wrong, I will initiate legal action.

If he is right, he will get the coins!

It's not mandatory, but it is necessary, if you want to be able to restore the account.

No you don't, you can open a Gmail account without a phone number.

As I said - since he wants help from members here - he either has to prove beyond the reasonable doubt that he's the rightful account owner, or an anonymous tip to the police will be filed.
And the IMF since this is a transaction for more than 100,000$ and could be used to fund international terrorism.

BTCe's request for verification is very reasonable, because if something goes south they're liable too, as they are a registered company with a CEO.

Unlike Steven009 they can prove who they are.

And the fact that he's "been trying" for 13 months is making it that more suspicious.
Continuing to argue with common sense - also.

If you're really looking out for this dude, advise him to spend a couple of hundos and get to Russia to get verified and receive his bitcoin.
Again - its very reasonable when it comes to 480btc.

And once more - what do you know that we don't? Why are you blindly protecting this guy? Multiple accounts much?

He doesn't. He's a fucking retard who is either too stupid to comprehend the very simple facts of the case or, as is being evidenced by his repeated frantic postings of fraud allegations in the face of facts which contradict what he is claiming, he is part of the BTC-E group of staff members who appear to be doing their damnedest to ignore their own company policy on account recovery procedure.

This is why I am becoming alarmed by the way in which both this monumentally dumb fuck and the BTC-E staff are so quick to drop into a feeding frenzy of fraud accusations, all the while repeating the same falsehoods and pretending like user 'Steven009' is a scammer. It is either that they have stolen the funds themselves or do not have the funds to repay him.

Both scenarios present very serious implications for their customer base.

Lauda, let me address you because I've got the shit-for-brains OP on ignore:
This is BTC-E account-recovery policy

The forum member Steven009 has been trying to recover his BTC-E account since 2015 and all they've done is send him round and round in circles asking the same questions which he answers, only for them to seemingly pass the ticket to someone else who starts the whole process off again.

Steven has fulfilled ALL of the above AND MORE.

At one stage they asked him to send a screenshot of particular data, which he did but blurred out information on the screen which wasn't relevant to the request. BTC-E then accused him of photoshopping the image so he explained why he had edited it and THEN SENT THEM AN UNTOUCHED VERSION which was accepted.

He has provided legalised documents to prove his ID as being the same as the person they have on record. Those documents have the public notary's stamp and information on them so BTC-E could contact them directly if they doubt the legitimacy of the notarisation.

Now they are repeating the same accusation about the first screenshot he sent them even though they accepted the subsequent unedited one as being legit and saying that he must be a scammer because they offered to send the money to the original bitcoin address (from 2012), the one he already explained he no longer has the private key for. They also ask him to send FROM that same bitcoin address! This nonsense would be funny if it wasn't so concerning.

So, as you can see, he's fulfilled their own listed requirements for account recovery as well as going on to provide additional internationally-recognised legal proof of his identity. What BTC-E have done is fuck him about over the last 13 months since he opened the ticket and they continue to do so, with what appears to be multiple staff-members responding at different times with varying degrees of English or even Russian-only replies.

The asshole OP of this thread repeatedly posts utterly false statements concerning this case, as though he either can't understand the full details posted in the scam accusation thread, or is intentionally trolling the thread as a desperate attempt to derail the recovery process for some reason.

I was contacted recently by Steven009 as Pawel7777 had seen he was struggling with getting BTC-E to even respond to the situation properly and suggested to him to ask me to tag them with the hope it would push them into dealing with it.

At one point they told Steven they couldn't give him access to his BTC-E account, but they could send the bitcoin to him instead. So it looked like they were going to finally resolve it, until shit-for-brains suddenly appears in the thread spraying his unique brand of dumb-fuckery all over it. Considering that BTC-E were taking days to reply prior to this, it was particularly suspicious how, 20 minutes after dipshit posted his first allegation against Steven in thread, BTC-E forum account sent dm's and made posts quickly following it up repeating the same allegations.

Here's an example of just how monumentally dumb the OP is, or that he is intentionally trolling the other thread:

He keeps repeating the claim that Steven must be a scammer because nobody would wait 13 months to recover their account. But Steven's very first post in the scam-accusation thread clearly explains that he has been corresponding with BTC-E for the last 13 months, being sent around in circles, which is why he reached the point of opening a scam accusation thread against them.

The crackhead OP of this thread demands that Steven post all of his account and personal identity information publicly, to which I have pointed out that it is both unreasonable and unnecessary a demand to make. Nobody other than BTC-E and Steven need to see those documents and seeing as BTC-E haven't accused Steven of not sending the things they asked for, then he clearly fucking has sent them the things they asked for! We, as the watching public, do not need Steven's private details sprayed all over this forum to resolve this case. We need only know that BTC-E asked him for documents to prove he is the same person as that listed on their own records and that he clearly did provide these documents.

This is not even an issue about bitcoin, it is an issue about a centralised trading company withholding their customer's funds even though he has fulfilled their own stated account-recovery process AND satisfied the internationally-accepted court-recognised requirements concerning the legalisation of these documents.

All I see is a baseless accusation in here. It doesn't look like you have proof to support such a statement.

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I'll keep watching this thread.

I dont like cryptodevil. Someone should shit in his mouth and then I'd laugh.

The forum member cryptodevil for some unknown reason is defending Steven009, trying to get an account back from BTC-e.

In short:
1. The user Steven009 claims that he lost the Gmail, the skype and the wallet used to fund the account;
2. He also claims that he is unable to get back the Gmail, skype and wallet; He also changed the account email address which was why it was blocked!
3. He sent photoshopped documents, showing a wallet and no real evidence that he's the real owner;
4. He refuses to send notarized documents, or go to a verification center. The provided from this user are only screenshots and scanned documents, which could have been bought online;
5. The amount is 480BTC;
6. Instead of really trying to solve his problem he came here pointing finger at BTC-e;
7. He also was unable to send a small transaction from the originating wallet, which "he's lost control of";
8. He waited for 13 months before acting.

None of the above makes sense.

One also asks a few simple questions:
What if it was my money? Would I stand by, waiting or would I go to get my coins?

One also wonders:
Why most users here get grilled for 50$, but we assist someone that has no valid proof with getting 480BTC from one of the oldest exchanges, that Operates since 2011?

Explain yourself cryptodevil - why are you so vigorously defending a guy with no proof of anything?

As I said in the thread that Steven009 started - this is a crime, and if you don't want to be in the middle of it - better start explaining.

Again - forum rank means nothing to the police, which will be alerted if you support those fraud attempts.

Since you're claiming to be the Police here - you're in the hot seat, buddy!

Who am I you ask? Why is my tag red, you ask?
Please take a look at the comment that cryptodevil placed, and also read why:


Basically I am red tagged because I am asking valid, sensitive questions.

I think that cryptodevil is either Steven009, or that he's been promised a percentage of the spoils.

PS: Gmail cannot be recovered, because on registration you have to put a phone number. And since Steven009 is not the real owner of the Gmail - he doesn't have the phone number to recover it! Google doesn't delete accounts. Anyone with a brain knows that. They disable it upon request and are able to reinstate in the matter of seconds - it's a huge domain based environment (i was a sysAdmin for a while).
And the scammer needs email confirmation, in order to withdraw the bitcoins.