Topic: CryptoFreebie.io - For The Players (Read 580 times)

Our terms & conditions page explains each site terms and our project pretty well.
Yes true, people are hard to please and can shift blame anywhere they want really, but in all honesty to blame us for referring you to a certain site you didn't enjoy is kind of ridiculous. So many people tend to play victim instead of owning up to their mistakes. Again, we do not force any users to make bets, we are here to give perks on top of the site perks, to make the gambling journey a little more rewarding.

As for the reviews fake or not, we will keep every partners site name in good health if there is no detailed proof of rug pulls or scams.
Of course if there would be a scandal about a site that we advertise we would not continue to advertise them.

Yes. We do have active people and we are growing everyday. The project is still in baby's shoes.
So far we have given away:
$400 giveaway to celebrate the launch.
$51.6 giveaway - 10% of the total commission for last month.
$100 random giveaway for the new site we listed
we post the giveaways in our telegram channel - https://t.me/CryptoFreebieChannel

and let's not forget the commission share that players have benefitted from is a bit over 1,5k as of today.

Also we have a VIP service for serious casino enthusiasts who are looking to try out new sites and have a high status on their old ones.
You can find the info on our website.

Is it worth your time to tell this to your visitors if they visit troublesome casinos from your website in the future though? I mean, if I were you I'd rather put a disclaimer that listing doesn't mean the casino is good and the users should research on their own. You can also add some remarks if there were serious accusations related to a casino listed on your website so the users can use that as a blacklist.

People are hard to please, and if they find some annoyances they can shift the blame to you easily which will take time and effort to make sure it won't grow out of control. Not to mention if there's a fake review or something similar, the accused casino should be the one to explain or answer questions from customers, not yourself.

Technically, this is an affiliate website that gives their users a lot of choices on which casinos they should gamble. And at the same time, you're giving back to the affiliates that will sign under you so that you can maintain them to be active just as what you wanted to give more commissions to you. It's actually a good strategy and brilliant idea on how to retain your members to be active at most times, that 80% for the entirety of what you'll receive from their commission is generous.

But I wonder if you've got active participants or affiliates already since you've posted this thread here 2 months ago.
Because keeping your affiliates/referrals active with this kind of strategy you do is one of the hardest thing to do and that's why you're doing lots of way for them to keep active.

Yes, the advertised casino is still in beta phase and they are currently looking for users to try their service and report bugs. This is not the kind of casinos a website like CryptoFreebie.io, which is practically a referral website, is supposed to promote. Any one who join the casino using the referral link is expecting to get some freebies. As I said it's just my opinion and I might be wrong.

Not unless if they would really be asking some beta users or to those who are bug searching kind of users then it would really be something relevant but if it do speaks about easy access on an unfinished or unpolished
site or platform then this would really be basically be giving out that kind of experience on which we know that this is something that will really be that totally not the right time on suggesting it to the public.
Just like on what you have said that its better to make out those kind of partnership or having those recommendations into those sites which are really that already finalized or something that
having that finished completely rather than on making it trying to suggest when its still on developmental stage.

It isnt something that would really be worth i should say into this regard but well if this one how it goes or works then there's nothing we can do. 

I don't think partnering with a casino that is still in beta phase and adding it to your list is a good idea, tbh!
If you visit the casino in question you will see that they warn their customers they should "expect lags, outages and ongoing maintenance". So, the user experience might be owful and this might have a negative impact on your service as well.
Better wait for the official launch and give them some time to prove their can be trusted then you can add them to your list.

OP I checked the website and found some known casino which already exist here.  I believe you know they already have their presence here. Now those casinos already are doing fine here and do not have any issues as such that could affect them. This is what should be happening at every time intervals.

Thank you for feedback.

Anybody can write a negative review, but not many put together a strong case.
This particular nanogames review just seems to be a frustrated player.
Many of crypto sites get ddos attacks daily that may have impact on things such as lag or the "seed in use" message - that is most likely the case here.
No site operator would sabotage their own business.
These reviews are pure comedy some times.

We do not own any of the casinos that are listed on our site.
Our experience with each site that is featured with us has been positive - that meaning we have deposited, tested the games and made a successful withdraw without any problems. Also all these sites honor their commission payouts.

Yes, there are users from time to time that have negative experiences, but no casino just bans people out of the blue or confiscates their winnings.
We know many cases where users just blatantly seek out to destroy a casinos reputation because they have lost a decent chunk of money.
I'll give an example here - human error, user accidentally max bet all their balance, some sites have warning buttons on max bet alerts. That said user had disabled their warning button and then just harassed live support all day claiming it's the sites fault. This user ended up threating the casino's staff and mentally lost it. In our opinion threats should never be taken lightly and this kind of behavior is ban worthy and a violation of terms.

A rotten apple quickly infects its neighbors.

A lot of cases surround also the allowed countries, many people use VPN's now days to avoid showing their true location, but sometimes they turn it off or it cuts off due to some technical problem and the users true location is revealed. When that happens and the casino does find out, there's a chance of a ban coming.

In general.
By signing up to any casino we advise players to fully understand the terms and conditions.
Make sure what you are really agreeing to, same goes for the games rules.

Yes, noted. Since we are only a doorway, we do not advertise anybody directly, update is just for our own site.
That's also the reason why the previous post does not contain the site's name. It doesn't take more than 1 minute to actually find out what it is.
The official bitcointalk topic for the site will come with official launch.

I see that there are casinos that are listed on your website but they are casinos with complaints, and there are not a few complaints, for example about the nanogames.io casino, there are people complaining about them on trustpilot and casino.guro.



source: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/nanogames.io

on trustpilot the complaints start many years ago and there is no representative of this casino responding to these complaints that are on trustpilot which makes it even more strange, a casino that has had complaints for many years and the trend is that the complaints do not stop, but rather increase, It's not a good sign. I hope that people who are creating accounts at this casino using your link report to you when they have problems, so that you can be aware of how this casino has been operating



source: https://casino.guru/nanogames-io-casino-review#tab=js-tab-reviews

megaplay.io


source: https://megaplay.io/help/terms-of-service

they wrote this in their TOS, making it seem like they are regulated by the government of Curacao, when I look on their website where the Curacao license is I can't find it, so I saw this on casino.guro:



source: https://casino.guru/megaplay-casino-review#tab=js-tab-detail-homepage

I haven't checked other casinos that are listed on your website, but I will do so over time, in my opinion it would be better if you could also warn people about these negative points, I'm not here accusing these casinos of anything, I'm just saying that it's always I need to alert people when these casinos do not have a license, there are cases of complaints

I would stand by what acroman08 suggested here. Do you not think it would be nice you look into telling your the casinos on your list to come register here because when they do that, members here would have that confidence in patronizing them because you are just an affiliate marketer who is paid to do so. You are not one of their team if i am not  mistaken. Having their presence here would also benefit you because the traffic flow would be in your favor. So in order to benefit all these, advise them to come here so that members can communicate them whenever they have issues with their account.

I think you should include the name of the website that you added on your list so it'll be a lot easier for people to checkout the new gambling site you added.

just curious, are they planning on advertising here in the forum? If not, you can suggest that they consider opening an announcement thread here in the forum.

Hi!

It's been a while since our last post.

We have added a new casino to our partners list.
This site fits our motto of giving back to the community perfectly. It has an automated commission share and many other fantastic perks.

The site is still in closed beta and will be officially launched in the upcoming weeks.
The UI is smooth and first looks and experience has been enjoyable.

Check out our website and find out more.
You can also find it in our twitter page.

And as always, enjoy exclusive kickback with CryptoFreebie like always.

Good luck!

Thank you for participating in our first giveaway!
Special congratulations to the top prize winner!
More giveaways coming soon.

Thanks for telling us, we will look into it. The site should work fine on any device and on the regular browsers like Chrome, Brave, Opera, Firefox, Safari and IE.

Here are some stats for the first week.

Total new accounts created trough us:
17 new users.
10 players met the wagering quota and have received their rewards yesterday.

485 giveaway participants.
323 twitter followers.
3477 telegram channel subscribers.

So nothing substantial and with a project like this it will take time to gather popularity and be truly seen.
Current plans are to take things step by step, wait for the first giveaway to finish and explore different ways of marketing.

Like mentioned before in this topic, many players already have an account with these casinos and they are not new to them.
Maybe we will start to add more fresh sites, but in order to do that we have to make sure that these sites are legit and pay out as well.
We've seen quite a lot of rug pull attempts and potential scams. So it's in our best interest that we do not refer anybody to become a victim.
There are new crypto casinos popping up every month, like mushrooms in the fall. Everything that shines, is not gold.

True and unfortunately I have not seen any operator to allow a 2nd account after the 1st account had an ending for whatever the reason.

The site does not load on TOR browser. Is it disabled?

I have read through your post and I get your point. You know humans are insatiable and as such would always want more to satisfy themselves for the moment so therefore the issue of multiple accounts would never stop happening.

On the other hand, the organisation or casino would always want to be at the top of the competition beating their competitors so therefore more bonus and promo's would be on for them to get more clients and customers to get registered with them. Doing this would definitely attract old members of the casino to do otherwise because they would not want to miss out of the bonuses.
These are the reasons why casinos are strict on their terms and conditions of service and also enforcing their punishment on Amy account found wanting so as to save their casino from further damages.
How do you intend to tackle this challenge I have mentioned above with the gamblers owning multiple accounts as a result of bonuses and giveaway from casinos just to get more traffic to their website? D you intend to do a fixed bonus and if yes how do you remain relevant in the gambling industry when other casinos or affiliates are giving better bonuses than what you offer, beating you out of form and market.

That is correct. All comes down to the operator's set terms.

We don't advise anybody to brake them, it's the players responsibility to be in accordance with the terms and conditions of the operator.

We also know few cases of people getting banned from various sites due to system flags.
For example, these bans can happen if a player had opened an account long time ago and forgot their details, then simply created a new one to play with no harm in mind and still get banned.
Usually they are then required to KYC and the duplicate will be closed.
There are also cases of systematic flagging by deposit addresses, let's say your friend withdraws to a wallet you use to deposit at the same site and vice versa. It's always best not to mix wallets like that.

It’s always a case to case in regards with multiple accounts in every casino. Some casino doesn’t care about multiple account as long as there’s no abuse involved in bonuses, tournaments and other promotion.

Stake is one of the casino that has a strict rules for multiple accounts. You are not allowed to open new account if you have old account or else they have the right to confiscate all the funds deposited on both account. The only way to close account on Stake is to self exclude permanently which means you can’t create account anymore. Opening new account while you knew you have existing account in there is always a high risk.

It's just an example. We do understand that $100k wager in a week is unachievable for some.
If you read our terms and conditions about each site, then you will find out that the minimum to receive the rewards on is only 1k a week for all other sites except Stake US.
Why has Stake US higher required wager? - Because it involves a lot more work to be done, since there is no tip system on the site, therefore we have to relay on the players to submit their deposit addresses in a timely manner to receive their rewards.

Hi! The rewards are wager based, we do not favor revenue share deals. The size of the rewards depend on how much the player wagers. The terms for each site affiliated with CryptoFreebie can be found here - https://cryptofreebie.io/terms-and-conditions/
If you do need a detailed explanation do not hesitate to contact our support.

To answer the giveaway question: There are a total of 65 winners, top prize being $100. Then there are 4 winners of $25 each, 10 winners of 10$ each and the remaining $100 will draw for 50 random winners in random amounts. The giveaway is running a provably fair algorithm.

Those who can wager $100k per week (and it's a hell of a wagering) will not care a lot for $250. I know every return counts, but you aim to catch some high rollers. Maybe my math is bad, but it looks like there's nothing for us who wager a lot less per week.

I wish you luck in attracting high rollers, it's not an easy task definitely. Many of them already play under someone (who gives them back a nice rakeback), and I doubt they wish to play to earn for someone else just like that.

Good luck with your service.

Does this reward associated to how often a gambler or player keeps deposit in cryptofreebie site or is calculated based on regular winning or what? Most times i noticed that some gamblers doesn't want to bet but as long as they keeps funding their account they gets automatic chance be qualified in the weekly or monthly rewards.
Please detailing is needed here for me to understand how it's rewarded to gamblers.


Please could you explain more about here, doesn't it mean $400 is for each participants or would be share among the qualified gambler who participated?

Your points are valid and the concern is justified.
In general, it comes down to users feedback. If players think they are mislead or taken advantage of they can feel free to share their experience and report the project.
That being said, every scam or rug pull accusation without any proof is considered to be spam and classified as a fake review. (yes, it's very common for people to spread lies on whatever grounds they see fit, some people even get paid to write them and do this as a full time job)

We know that social media has the power to burn any project to the ground and player feedback is very important. It can take few bad reviews for players to not believe in the project.
However, we will provide a detailed explanation to any player under our wing about their rates and rewards trough our support email, if they feel it is needed.

It's crucial for us to stay honest with everybody, if there's no honesty there will be no project.

This is the example of service https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5408890 that has similarity to what you offer. The guy paid users on couple of weeks then disappeared after having problem in the forum. Later on another service open and end up the same that’s why there’s always a trust issue here to this kind pf service.

No doubt your service is really good because has nothing to lose here since this rewards is just an extra which they can’t get if they register on the casino directly. I really suggest that you find a way to guarantee user here that your project will run for long term such as putting money on escrow to show seriousness that your project is long term.

This is only applicable for new accounts but if you do have an account that is level 2 rank like on Betfury or you are on your way to VIP like on Stake you don't expect them to prefer to close their account just to be able to avail of your 70% rakeback which you can change later if it not sustainable or if you decide to close your platform the player is left hanging, I don't like this idea of closing one account just to sign up with you especially if the account that was close is already verified, it might put the account at risk.

Anyway you say that you have 16 years of experience in gambling maybe you know the proper method of creating another account, for me if you already have an account and you want it close, if you want to go back just request to open, unless you close that account for more than two years, but you have to communicate this to the support or you will get your account in trouble later.

Hi!

We see your point. Honestly, we do not believe in discontinuing the project. There are always possibilities for growth: as long as there are crypto casinos, as long as there are players.
If for some reason in the future CrypoFreebie has to close it's doors, which is highly unlikely, then there will be announcements about it. So everybody can keep up with it, players are who drive this project and being honest with them is the key.

Even if such an event would happen, we will still conduct a fully detailed report and send out all promised rewards to the players. What we can do, is work together with the partner casinos to offer some sort of consolation, if that happens.

Hi! Thanks for the question.

Nobody said it will be easy, but we will put a lot of heart to the project.
That being said, CryptoFreebie in other words is basically in the hands of the community.
The more people believe in it, the more revenue it generates. At current state all the projects costs are from our own pocket and no 3rd party is financing us.

As far as we know, it's not illegal to close your casino account.
For example, a player may choose to close their current account via said site support for personal reasons.
If the player has closed their account and for some reason has no options to recover or to reopen that closed account, then they can open a new one - as long as their first account is in closed state it seems to be accepted by many sites. Depends how the rules are translated and if the site is okay with that.
Eventually it is between the operator and the player.

Maybe bad phrasing by us, we do not mean that a player should have multiple active accounts. Again, question of translation.

There’s same service like this that offers 50% to 70% referral commission from rakeback. It’s really a good idea for profit sharing but the problem was most of this services doesn’t last longer so the ending will be players will be left behind while the service still benefit on the referral commission from players that sign up through their affiliate code despite they already terminated their service.

I’m not a fan of this kind of service anymore because you guys can come and go no string attached if there’s no new referral using your code since you have no obligation to continue your service if you decided to stop.

I'm doozy reading but I get what you're trying to solve and you're selling and I'm on board with that but @un_rank actually raises a really good question, how sustainable it is? We all know how popular free money is right? I think that this one will attract a lot of people so you need to tell us how you're going to fund your project consistently and with emphasis to consistency, would you be able to keep this for long because when people get a taste of this, they're probably going to come back for more and more. You'll also need to deal with freebie abusers as they're definitely going to want this and will try to make sure that they're getting the biggest as much as possible.

It might be annoying and disturbing, this is also one of the many ways a casino is making profit.. we cannot really do anything about it if that is another way they can think of to generate more money that will be used to better the system….




Of course any customer would love this idea but just how realistic are these numbers? While we also want sum profits, we also want for the system to work and operate properly and to do that, there should be enough money generated for maintaining and development….


Running a business would be expensive and it can not operate on generosity alone unless you set up a cooperative wherein the members will be themselves to get the benefits by being a member of the organization

How sustainable is a model like this?

A project needs funds to be run, to pay winners, to keep the website active, to advertise and expand. How does this project plan to survive with 20% of revenue generated. It does not seem sustainable to me in the long-run and just seems like a good marketing campaign to get people to register and choose you guys over other casinos.

- Jay -

That's what I was thinking. In his answer, he's throwing his hands up in the air about whether alts should be created, as in: "it's something that many people do even though it's forbidden, and we don't tell people to do it, but we don't say it's wrong either.

Another thing that strikes me:


Has anyone heard of them? Because I haven't, and with such a long trajectory it's rare. Although if he talks about 16 years it must be supposedly with other names.

Also, neither this thread nor the website seem very professional.

This is common among streamers as well. The streamers aren't telling players that they need to create alt accounts if they already have an account, but they hold contests here and there and only players under their code are eligible to win any prizes. Streamers who offer the best rewards get more sign ups but alot unfortunately are alt accounts and casinos mostly only allow 1 account on their platform.

So the question is

Why would you even advertise its ok to create a new account under you? You likely know the ToS of casinos includes 1 account per person, so why mention it's ok to make a new account?

You don't have to wait and find out all you have to do is go through the scam section and check how casinos traced abuse by having an alt account of players, it's like inviting and enticing gamblers to try to cheat the system by offering them a better perks than what they currently have or don't have from the one that recruit them.

Thank you for the feed back!
Indeed, we do not encourage players to make alternative accounts and said activity is prohibited by most casino's terms and conditions.
More likely, we would like to debate and discuss about the topic openly.

Speaking from experience we can say that many players who are looking for handouts or easy money are also willing to discard their current accounts to become some one else's affiliate.
With crypto casinos that do not require KYC verification it is a very common thing. Users can either use multiple devices or different connections to do so.
But crypto gambling should be allowed everywhere in the world? Also the anonymity of crypto gambling is what gives it a perk. Here's where the conflict happens: Anonymity or less abusers?

An example: A random marketer invites "Player X" to join a casino by promising them $10 for making an account. Player X happily takes upon this promised offer, gets the $10.
"Player X "enjoys the casino for let's say for 2 months. Some how "Player X" spots an offer for the same casino, but now it's a $20 sign-up bonus + some extra perks or long term value solution and creates another account. - This said scenario happens daily between many different communities, "affiliate jumpers" we like to call them.

Example 2: "Player X" just creates one account to actually refer themself to the platform to reap extra rewards. By doing that, they take the risk of getting caught of abusing the affiliate system and having a duplicate account. Most cases when discovered are actually unfortunate for "Player X", as violation of terms and conditions usually result in voided winnings.

So what if everybody just gets the best deal in town, straight away? No hooks. Would they still jump around or create alts?
That's what we want to find out.

That is true, they need to find a way how to attract other players other than this forum. Because most gamblers here have their own account already in those partner casinos they have listed. But no harm done if they do want to try to promote their site on this forum.

Also, if I may suggest to the OP -  would it be better if you will have visual presentation in your OP rather than wall of texts? Because most users won't read all those texts and just skit it. Maybe, try to post some snapshots from your site particularly the part stating about your rewards.

Right, those exchanges are usually have so many users here already, so registering on reputed exchanges "again" is pretty much impossible as it violate their ToS so that platform won't get anymore users. It may good to have a new yet established casinos on that platform, maybe some casino that doesn't have an ANN thread here yet, but it could be difficult to find, or maybe just the new ones as long as there's no existing scam accusations against them.

Interesting concept, gambling affiliate marketing is one of the best ways to make money in the gambling industry, the giveway is also good but you also need to understand that if you're promoting well-established and popular casinos you are not likely to get more people here as casinos have it in their terms that they do not allow alternative accounts, you have a good chance if you include new and up and coming casinos with good potential and reputable that are not yet here in Bitcointalk.
Good luck with your venture since you have a copper account why not include graphic images to fully explain your concept.

Hello, Bitcointalk!

Imagine being able to play in any crypto casino of your choice and reap additional rewards regardless of the platform.
CryptoFreebie.io is here to give the players all of that.

Over the years of being part of the online gambling sector as whole, we have witnessed a lot of predatory approaches and unethical marketing techniques.

Tackling the issues:
Some affiliate marketers do not honor their deals and people are constantly trying to rip off other people. Even the random ads and banners you see everyday on the web that lead players to casinos are predatory in our point of view.
When described in such a manner, it suggests that players are being exploited without receiving any benefits in the long run. A lot of players are undervalued and tend to get stuck with the bitter end. Even players try to hustle the casinos by creating alternative accounts. Either to refer themselves to try to take some advantage over the casino or creating multiple accounts to abuse promotions.

So in other words - We believe that many players are undervalued and deserve more. We also understand the casinos views on promotional abuse and multi-account policies.
So let's find a common ground together!


The idea:

CryptoFreebie is an informational doorway to cryptocurrency gambling in general. We believe that cryptocurrency gambling is truly the best form of gambling.
After 16 years of experience in the online gambling sector it's safe to say that the most important part of gambling for the player is receiving their withdraws.
Many fiat currency casinos have regulations that cause unnecessary stress when it comes to withdrawing your winnings. Also a lot of absurd rules to try to milk the player as much as possible.
Gambling in all it forms should be simple and fair, if you deposit and risk your own funds, then you should be allowed to withdraw your winnings. It's just morally wrong for casinos to use all sorts of tactics to avoid payouts.

Mission:

We create value for the players and the community by giving them extra rewards and a reason to stick around.
Limiting the alternative account scene. Choosing CryptoFreebie will offer players greater benefits than creating alt accounts. Our rates are exclusive.

Vision:

Raise public awareness.
Bring positive vibes to the crypto gambling community.
Secure more partner casino deals and listen to the public opinion.
CryptoFreebie brand development.
Create additional jobs and grow the team.
More advanced website, that has a log-in panel with the possibility of live statistics across all platforms and automatic rewards.

Why choose CryptoFreebie?

A straight 70% kickback to the player directly and 10% to the CryptoFreebie community.
We will start with this model and we will ensure that these percentages will not decrease. Depending on the project's popularity, we may increase the rewards in the future.
There is also a VIP program.

How is the kickback rewarded?

Players associated with CryptoFreebie will receive their rewards every Sunday of the week.
In addition to weekly rewards, there will be monthly rewards, which we aim to process during the first week of each new month.
The full terms and conditions of CryptoFreebie can be found here - https://cryptofreebie.io/terms-and-conditions/
We use databases to ensure that the rates and rewards are honored as promised.
Players can also feel free to contact our support if they need a detailed explanation of their rewards calculations.

Target audience:

Mostly for players who are already familiar with the gambling scene such as:
Gamblers who do not know about about crypto casinos.
Players who feel undervalued and lack rewards.
Last but not least, new players to the scene can be sure that they are in good hands with CryptoFreebie.

Our plan is not to influence the players decision to discard their current casino accounts.
That decision is entirely up to the individual and it is their free will to do so.
To find out how much the players can benefit by using CryptoFreebie they should do the math themselves.
Be advised that the rates displayed on cryptofreebie.io also come with the said platform rules. For example, Stake has an additional rule of "/2" in their formula.
The rate we display in the partner section of our site is the rate we currently have with the said operator.

What does CryptoFreebie get for providing it's services?

CryptoFreebie keeps only 20% of the crypto currency generated by the players.
It will be used to reward the team - the workload is no joke and everything associated with the project is time consuming.
Also there are costs to ensure the project's stability and growth.

Most importantly, CryptoFreebie was created to give back to the players and to the community with the possibility to create full time jobs.

The launch of cryptofreebie.io

To celebrate the launch of cryptofreebie.io we have prepared a $400 USDT giveaway which can be found here:
https://giveaway.com/en/cMij9ihMYu7


All feedback, both negative and positive is very welcome.


Greed will get you nowhere in life,
Generosity can go a long way!

Best regards,
CryptoFreebie.io
25.02.2024