Topic: Cryptonote Technology Coins - General Discussion Thread (Read 3088 times)
Wow! There are a lot of CryptoNote coins.
Hey guys. Take a look at my new article about Boolberry. I am sure, you will find interesting facts there. Boolberry can be much more stronger as i think. Grin
http://www.cryptobang.com/2014/09/17/boolberry-what-is-that/
http://www.cryptobang.com/2014/09/17/boolberry-what-is-that/
Maybe I can make up for it by bringing your attention to CherryNote:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=695608.0;all
Cheers
Graham
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=695608.0;all
Cheers
Graham
Have I missed any? 
KrakenToken https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pre-annkkn-krakentoken-40-ico-cryptonote-tech-zero-premine-750370I wish I hadn't mentioned it now. A not-so-cursory second glance reveals some tell-tale warning signs, not the least of which is the grammar/spelling step change in the OP's post history (sigh). None of the mentioned names/handles of the team resolve.
ICO raised 0.00000000 BTC, OP fell silent on 25th, the planned launch of 29th didn't happen.
Cheers
Graham
XMR and BBR are just worth attention.
Not sure if it would help, but here's a few CN sites. Maybe they could be added to the list, just an idea & i'll PM J1mb0 again with them to be added to the OP.
MinerGate
ChainRadar
MinerGate
ChainRadar
Great, Thanks!
I'll add them to the list.
yes, brilliant! it would be great to have somewhere where general improvements and innovations etc are discussed and are easily visible, will save me a lot of effort! many thanks.... 
I'm not so sure about these Cryptonote coins. Bitcoin can be made pretty anonymous if need be., These serve a very small niche market but I don't see any of them gaining widespread acceptance.
I am pretty sure that Bitcoin has a heavy privacy issue (Big Data) and that is why an Anon Coin is needed.
I find it hard to tell from the OP whether KrakenToken would fall into your category but it does employ CryptoNote tech ...
Many, thanks! It most certainly does. I added it to the list.
Interesting coin - however I missed the IPO.
It didn't give an awfully long time!
Added MountCoin to the 1st post.
Have I missed any?
Have I missed any?
Personally, I find it hard to tell from the OP whether KrakenToken would fall into your category but it does employ CryptoNote tech ...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pre-annkkn-krakentoken-40-ico-cryptonote-tech-zero-premine-750370
Cheers
Graham
I'm not so sure about these Cryptonote coins. Bitcoin can be made pretty anonymous if need be., These serve a very small niche market but I don't see any of them gaining widespread acceptance.
Added MountCoin to the 1st post.
Have I missed any?
Have I missed any?
I am trying out DashCoin - no issues or problems whatsoever on Linux.
http://dashcoin.net/
I'm mining on Extreme and it's doing great with 8 of my cores. Minerd (multi) on Linux
I am also trying out SilverBack
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=741346.0;all
I couldn't find any Linux binaries - installed the deps but couldn't compile it.
Currently have it running on Windows 8 - again mining on Extreme 4 cores - good results! Minerd (multi) on Linux
Who is mining what in the cryptonote world? What miners are you using or are you solo?
http://dashcoin.net/
I'm mining on Extreme and it's doing great with 8 of my cores. Minerd (multi) on Linux
I am also trying out SilverBack
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=741346.0;all
I couldn't find any Linux binaries - installed the deps but couldn't compile it.
Currently have it running on Windows 8 - again mining on Extreme 4 cores - good results! Minerd (multi) on Linux
Who is mining what in the cryptonote world? What miners are you using or are you solo?
Most coins are direct clones of ByteCoin/CryptoNote Reference Coin. The main difference to date is merge mined coins or straight POW coins.
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Retarget and diff adjustment is always 1 - because (I think) all of them adjust diff every block. Confirmation time depends on block time and number of blocks before a transaction is confirmed - just as with BTC/LTC.
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Retarget and diff adjustment is always 1 - because (I think) all of them adjust diff every block. Confirmation time depends on block time and number of blocks before a transaction is confirmed - just as with BTC/LTC.
Thanks for the characterisation, you saved me several hours of cross-checking.
Cheers
Graham
Useful list, thanks for collating it.
Thanks!
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Does “max supply” and “block time” basically cover the major difference between these cryptonote coins?
Pretty much, for now. Most coins are direct clones of ByteCoin/CryptoNote Reference Coin. The main difference to date is merge mined coins or straight POW coins.
Monero, since it was taken over by new devs, has had some work done 'under the hood'. Not that regular users would notice much difference. Boolberry has a GUI wallet - however I could not get mine to run under Linux.
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Some of these categories must be specific to the bitcoin protocol because they're never mentioned in [ANN]s for coins using the Cryptonote protocol.
Retarget and diff adjustment is always 1 - because (I think) all of them adjust diff every block. Confirmation time depends on block time and number of blocks before a transaction is confirmed - just as with BTC/LTC.
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I'm looking for 2nd gen correlates to this metadata --- you seem to have a good grip on the tech and as I haven't managed so far to make a single successful translation of the patter in any of the 2gen info sheets, do you have any pointers as to what other features could be used to characterise these different coins?
Anyone else have any suggestions on the above?
Useful list, thanks for collating it.
Does “max supply” and “block time” basically cover the major difference between these cryptonote coins?
Only, I've been collecting metadata, basically sticking to what is typically published (when coin data is published in full). Here's a paste of the python dict that I use:
Some of these categories must be specific to the bitcoin protocol because they're never mentioned in [ANN]s for coins using the Cryptonote protocol.
I'm looking for 2nd gen correlates to this metadata --- you seem to have a good grip on the tech and as I haven't managed so far to make a single successful translation of the patter in any of the 2gen info sheets, do you have any pointers as to what other features could be used to characterise these different coins?
Cheers
Graham
Does “max supply” and “block time” basically cover the major difference between these cryptonote coins?
Only, I've been collecting metadata, basically sticking to what is typically published (when coin data is published in full). Here's a paste of the python dict that I use:
Code:
dict(name="", slug="", symbol="",
date_founded="2014-08-00", incept="2014-08", thread=".0",
protocol="bitcoin",
protectionscheme="pow",
distributionscheme="pow",
powscheme="",
description="",
total_coins=1000000,
block_time=60,
confirmations=None,
maturation=None,
block_reward=None,
retarget_time=None,
diff_adjustment=None,
premine=None,
website=None,
source=None,
),
Some of these categories must be specific to the bitcoin protocol because they're never mentioned in [ANN]s for coins using the Cryptonote protocol.
I'm looking for 2nd gen correlates to this metadata --- you seem to have a good grip on the tech and as I haven't managed so far to make a single successful translation of the patter in any of the 2gen info sheets, do you have any pointers as to what other features could be used to characterise these different coins?
Cheers
Graham
I am curious as to how the merged mining work with the Cryptonote coins.
Are all the merge mined coins infinite total supply - has that got something to do with the merged mining?
Are all the merge mined coins infinite total supply - has that got something to do with the merged mining?
CryptoNote provides users with a completely anonymous payment scheme. CryptoNote implements the ring signature technology which allows you to sign a message on behalf of a group. The signature only proves the message was created by someone from the group, but all the possible signers are indistinguishable from each other.
Even if outgoing transactions are untraceable, everyone may still be able to see the payments you have received and thus determine your income. However, by using a variation of the Diffie-Hellman exchange protocol, a receiver has multiple unique one-time addresses derived from his single public key. After funds are sent to these addresses they can only be redeemed by the receiver; and it would be impossible to cross-link these payments.
Aeon (AEON)
Max Supply: 18.4 million
Block Time: 60s
Launched: June 6, 2014
Boolberry (BBR)
Max Supply: 18.4 million
Block Time: 120s
Launched: April 20, 2014
Bytecoin (BCN)
Max Supply: 184.5 billion
Block Time: 120s
Launched: July 4, 2012* (*Claimed but disputed)
Dashcoin (DSH)
Max Supply: 184.5 billion
Block Time: 120s
Launched: July 5, 2014
DiamondBack (DBK)
Max Supply: 1.04 million
Block Time: 384s
Launched: August 16, 2014
Dosh (DOSH)
Max Supply: 184.5 million
Block Time: 192s
Launched: August 11, 2014
DuckNote (XDN)
Max Supply: 8.5 billion
Block Time: 240s
Launched: May 30, 2014
Fantomcoin (FCN)
Max Supply: Infinite
Block Time: 60s
Launched: May 21, 2014
Infinium-8 (INF8)
Max Supply: Infinite
Block Time: 90s
Launched: July 17, 2014
Monero (XMR)
Max Supply: 18.4 million
Block Time: 60s
Launched: April 25, 2014* (*BitMonero launched April 9, 2014)
MonetaVerde (MCN)
Max Supply: Infinite
Block Time: 60s
Launched: June 15, 2014
MountCoin (MNT)
Max Supply: 18.4 million
Block Time: 25s
Confirmations: 60 blocks
Launched: June 19, 2014
OneEvilCoin (OEC)
Max Supply: 8.3 million
Block Time: 60s
Launched: July 14, 2014
SilverBack (SBK)
Max Supply: 1.07 billion
Block Time: 192s
Launched: August 7, 2014
Quazarcoin (QCN)
Max Supply: 18.4 million
Block Time: 120s
Launched: May 21, 2014
We either;
Choose to carry on living in a serfdom where the rule of law is arbitrary between the Common Person and the Billionaire or Multi-national Corporation.
or
Claim our freedom by using Cryptonote technology which gives every person the same tools to manage their financial and tax affairs
Thanks to TC for the more graphical list - he will be normalising the images shortly - I would hate to start a flame war because some coins have bigger graphics!
Untraceable payments
CryptoNote provides users with a completely anonymous payment scheme. CryptoNote implements the ring signature technology which allows you to sign a message on behalf of a group. The signature only proves the message was created by someone from the group, but all the possible signers are indistinguishable from each other.
Unlinkable transactions
Even if outgoing transactions are untraceable, everyone may still be able to see the payments you have received and thus determine your income. However, by using a variation of the Diffie-Hellman exchange protocol, a receiver has multiple unique one-time addresses derived from his single public key. After funds are sent to these addresses they can only be redeemed by the receiver; and it would be impossible to cross-link these payments.
List of Cryptonote Coins
Aeon (AEON)
Max Supply: 18.4 million
Block Time: 60s
Launched: June 6, 2014
Boolberry (BBR)
Max Supply: 18.4 million
Block Time: 120s
Major changes/enhancements from CryptoNote Reference: GUI Wallet* (*Not thought to be release grade, yet)
Launched: April 20, 2014
Bytecoin (BCN)
Max Supply: 184.5 billion
Block Time: 120s
Launched: July 4, 2012* (*Claimed but disputed)
Dashcoin (DSH)
Max Supply: 184.5 billion
Block Time: 120s
Launched: July 5, 2014
DiamondBack (DBK)
Max Supply: 1.04 million
Block Time: 384s
Launched: August 16, 2014
Dosh (DOSH)
Max Supply: 184.5 million
Block Time: 192s
Launched: August 11, 2014
duckNote (XDN)
Max Supply: 8.5 billion
Block Time: 240s
Launched: May 30, 2014
Fantomcoin (FCN)
Max Supply: Infinite
Block Time: 60s
Launched: May 21, 2014
Infinium-8 (INF8)
Max Supply: Infinite
Block Time: 90s
Launched: July 17, 2014
KrakenToken (KKN)
Max Supply: 10 million
Block Time: 60s
Major changes/enhancements from CryptoNote Reference: POS (15%pa)
Launched: August 29, 2014 (40% IPO)
Monero (XMR)
Max Supply: 18.4 million
Block Time: 60s
Launched: April 25, 2014* (*BitMonero launched April 9, 2014)
MonetaVerde (MCN)
Max Supply: Infinite
Block Time: 60s
Launched: June 15, 2014
MountCoin (MNT)
Max Supply: 18.4 million
Block Time: 25s
Confirmations: 60 blocks
Launched: June 19, 2014
OneEvilCoin (OEC)
Max Supply: 8.3 million
Block Time: 60s
Launched: July 14, 2014
Quazarcoin (QCN)
Max Supply: 18.4 million
Block Time: 120s
Launched: May 21, 2014
SilverBack (SBK)
Max Supply: 1.07 billion
Block Time: 192s
Launched: August 7, 2014
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