Topic: Cryptoskill - Realtime multiplayer Rock Paper Scissors - page 2. (Read 515 times)

This is an interesting new game in gambling. Though he answered the first question of how do we know if we are truly playing against other player or are we only playing against their team. My doubt was always be there as long as no other users can prove that they really played as pvp and not against bot.

Always good to see fresh new games around here, and PvP ones are even better.

Are there any plans to add further PvP games to the platform? Perhaps ones with a bigger skill curve, e.g. PvP poker 

Indeed it'll be a homework for use and we'll do our best to keep the website up and hopefully the users here will find it fun enough to keep it alive.
Thank you for your feedback

Thank you very much for your kind words. Try showing this to some of your friends, we are looking for as much feedback as possible before the actual release.

Yes, that will be on of the most challenging tasks that we'll face, but unfortunately, it's partially out of our hands. In the end, the users will decide if this game is worth it or not.
Either way, it will be a good experience for us. (Of course, the experience of have a growing user base will always be better )

Asking for identity is a way to do it but unfortunately we won't be doing this as we want a fast interaction with the game.
We will, however, include some warnings in some parts of the website (some of which are already present). We know this might not do much but it's the best that we can do at this time.
In the future we can explore a more "strict" procedure, but we'll go with the warnings for the time being.

Indeed. We'll do our best possible efforts to minimize this. But in the end it'll be up to their common sense (and their parents).

That's incredible feedback, thank you!
We'll explore the implementation of such animation in the future. As you say, it'll be way more fun and enjoyable.
We have thought about running a bot but some issues have been raised with this approach. As for the profit part, we wouldn't be gaining that much money (if any) since there's a 50% change of winning/losing. The focus of this game is to be a fun and fast paced website where users can get together and compete (and with some luck, win some coins )

Thank you for pointing this out. We were doing some sensitive tasks on a future project that required or attention the last few days, but we are back and we'll starting analysing all of your feedback and explore possible implementations.


Again, all feedback is appreciated and welcome.
Thank you everyone

Where is OP? As a new launched site, he has to be more active here in this forum especially it is a pvp based game site. Opening an ANN thread here but being not really active is not good at all. So I suggest OP to online as much as possible to reply any questions, feedback, or bumping this thread for news/updates.

The design is nice and simple, but for me, Rock-Paper-Scissors is about a rhythmic 3-step action at the end of which people show their results. They shake their fists two times simultaneously and then they show what they choose for the third time. Without this animation, the game looks very limited, it's like something essential is missing. And I know that in the end, the result is what matters but the process allows to enjoy the game, and here there's not process... And it's true that a PvP only game is a tough challenge for the team because when there aren't enough people on the website all the time, it makes it annoying for a small number of people who want to use the website to wait for someone to appear and play with them. You should consider running a signature campaign on this forum if you're serious about promoting the website. And why not allow to play against computer as the demo allows? This way you could also gain profits when the computer wins.

Are you out of your mind? Asking personal identity before you would able to play? that isnt the thing that most gamblers do like here on crypto.
If there are verifications or inputs on what would be their age then it can be simply bypassed yet this cant really be stopped minors if they wanted to play.
Of course this doesnt target kids but adults on this kind of game.

Rock Paper Scissors sounds like a game I watched kids play on youtube with their hands.  Who is this targeted at by the way? Adult or kids? Will adults even like it? In my opinion, it could attract lots of kids and get them addicted... A bad idea if this's targeted at them. I guess you'll have to demand for personal identity for aqe qualifications before allowing anyone to play.

I really liked the concept. I did play the demo version and enjoyed it. If you are creating it only for multiplayer then the only problem will be adequate number of user present on the website all the time.
Otherwise the game is perfect for short time entertainment.

That is great news because all we know that street game is the most popular in the children here in south east asia because you can play it anywhere you want. And now here in crypto gaming industry. I think this project will be a great project because it has an easy and simple way of game mechanics so many gamblers will love to play this game.

There were some similar sites in the past which were providing the same multiplayer game but all of them unable to survive because it is hard to attract players although they have done some promotions.
PvP based game is a big challenge for the owner of the sites to manage and to survive. Hopefully this site wont be just the same as the previous dead sites due to lack of players.
The community here is always welcome for a new casino, but it does not mean that people will be interested to play. This the the hard homework for the owner.

Topic moved to the correct section.

Thank you very much

You are right I was mistaking it for something else. We'll read more about that to see possible future applications, thanks for the info.

About the game: yes, by using seeds from a trustless source, the game itself will become trustless (if properly developed), but if you look at the bigger picture, you are still trusting the website owner with you bitcoins. Anyone can just close up shop and take all your coins.
Building this kind of trust is difficult, specially for people that are just starting in the crypto world. We want to create that trust by building good and responsive games where people can have fun.
I'm sure that there are a lot of people that share your opinion and that don't want to be part of this website now when things are still fresh, and that's ok. We'll keep working on this and hopefully, you'll reconsider in the future.

Again, thank you for your feedback.

I dunno what you meant by this... Server + Client seed model allows the user to independently verify the outcomes of their bets... As for users depositing BTCs ending up in "owner's" wallet has nothing to do with the "trust" issue I was referring to. I was referring to the games themself.

You can see it on top left>


Good to hear out that you would try out.Wish you luck with that!

Happy new year Harlot, thank you very much for the feedback

Indeed, the initial lack of players will be challenging. We already implemented bots to test our system, we could use them now to bootstrap the website and apply a provably fair algorithm.
But in reality, we only need two players online at all times, we (the devs) could do that ourselves. We'd just need to invest some capital for the losses hahah

Happy new year

About those "Server + Client seed model", you can't be sure about any of that unless their code is open source either. Aside from that, when you deposit bitcoins in most websites, those bitcoins will belong to the website owners since they'll go directly into their wallets. There are some cleaver ways to mitigate this, by using smart contracts but most people do it the old database way to reduce costs (and hassle).
There is a way to do what you are saying and keeping the multiplayer feature, we'd have to write everything as an open source smart contract, where anyone can clearly see the "safeness" of eveything. But unfortunately, we are not interested in re-writing all of our code right now
Either way, that's something to think about for any future projects.
Also,
Don't worry, it's not. We are having fun writing these games and it's an incredible way to enrich our curriculum and skills.

Happy new year stomachgrowls
Oh we missed that section. Is it possible for a mod to move this thread there ?
So you're saying that there's no market for these kind of games huh.. I guess we'll keep trying, just for fun and games.
We are actually making another game right now and, as I said to Thekool1s, we like doing this and having the experience of building these websites is great for us.

Why not try to create ANN thread for this RockPaperScissors game? Gambling Section.

Aside from that there's no need to repeat those concerns above about trust matters.We have seen a number of multiplayer games but ending up

on failing due to these reasons.Even if its fair or not but the interest isnt really that high.

I hate to break it you but there is no way of proving this since your code isn't opensource. So your idea won't go that far with the crypto community. The very reason no one does Crypto Multiplayer Games is the very issue of trust. You never know when the House can make up bot accounts and "scam/screw" their users. Heck, they don't even need the bot, a dev can screw over legit players for the mere fact they will know what player has chosen already. Your only option is PvH (Player vs House) with a Server + Client seed model else its a mere waste of time on your end... Many people have tried and failed and you don't want to do the same thing...

This will be one of your biggest weakness especially during your first official launch for the website. It would be difficult for players to have another match since we don't even know yet how many people here are interested on joining/playing your game. So I don't think the possibility of having a Player vs. Bot is a bad decision so that players won't have to wait for another player or at least give them an option to match against a bot. So I think the right thing here is for you to have some kind of provaboy fair system where you Bit's action are already predetermined by seed just like how normal crypto casino's works.

Happy new year joniboini!

That's a good and very important question.
I could give you the talk about trust and that we would never cheat (and that's all true )  but we've went even further than that.

All communications between your browser and our servers are encrypted. I'm not just talking about HTTPS, the hands that you play are encrypted in your browser before sending them to our servers. A new key is generated for every match and it stays in your browser only until both players have played, in which case the game is locked and becomes irreversible. The key is also sent over along with the hand the first time you play, this is done to validate the hand and it is deleted immediately afterwards.

Even if our database leaked, no one would be able to see your hand because it's stored in an encrypted state and you, the players, are the only ones that have the key.

If you have any suggestion about how we could make this more transparent, feel free to tell us

If I got this right, the funds come from the player. Winner takes it all and losers lose it. Right?

How do players know they're playing against other players and not your team?

(Reserving this space for some future awesome announcements)