Topic: [CRYPTOSTOCKS] (ECA) Electrochemical Activation Project (Read 12653 times)

Icoin - contact me, We have a DVC token on Stellar that our administrator and issuer of the token thinks would work with Woocommerce since its compatible with Stellar for payments. 7 year bump sure me. I'll email you too.

please send me your details by mail: eca at glari.ch

Ok, I need to order another bottle.

Yes i worked on commerce to provide this, but commerce fails in conjunction with Devcoin. Actualy i look for an other shopping solution that is capable to work with Devcoin, till then the service is avalable trough email. eca at glari.ch

Is there a checkout yet to purchase the EAW yet on the site? I thought I saw one at some point, but its no longer on the site on devda.ch? Can you correct this?

First Image of the GPL ECA Reactor published:

https://devda.ch/node/14

There are 1000 Shares listed for 0.5 BTC, as soon all shares are sold, the data gonna be published on defcad.org and will reference to Bitcoin.

If you wanna know more, google "electrochemical activated water" or order your example 250 ml EAW Concentrate for DVC, NMC, LTC or BTC.
Contact eaw ad glari.ch

DVB Challange:
The challange is to get the data published trough DVB - 1M DVB Shares a 250 DVC each are issued.

When all 250 priced DVB shares are sold before the 1000 0.5 BTC ECA shares - the data on defcad.org will reference to Devcoin.

Should DVB reach the given target first, ECA will refund trough dividends payment.

I have received and have been trying out the EAW, some of the uses I researched showed it can be used for several skin problems.

On one of my hands on the knuckle I am going to treat a small piece of eczema. I had not yet posted as I have been testing it out and so far I have noticed an improvement in the eczema. I have it fairly mild on my hand and will finish the review once I have tested it to my satisfaction.

Thanks for your order

http://vimeo.com/35849956
Please be aware that Kangen Water is produced in a different Reactor. The ECA Reactor does not incorporate platinum. But the process is diaphragmalysis. Kangen Water is ECW similar.

PM me, will send you devcoins to order a sample.

Electrochemical activation (ECA) has been developed as a quick and efficient method of hypochlorite production, and many claim increased efficacy when compared to conventional disinfectant solutions. Numerous potential applications, including hospital disinfection, waste-water treatment, routine drinking water disinfection and biological decontamination have been suggested. In this study, three solutions were produced by electrochemical activation of 0.5% NaCl and compared to commercially available NaOCl. The NaOCl concentration and pH of each solution was measured, and the minimum bactericidal concentration of each was determined using seven common microbial pathogens. All solutions were effective, the most significant of which was the ECA anolyte solution. This is notable due to its neutral pH and antimicrobial efficacy that is four times that of commercially available NaOCl. This process may lead to production of a highly effective yet non-caustic disinfectant that would have countless scientific, medical, military and public health applications.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20973403

The comercial product and companies listed above was just used as a example for you guys so you can realize what this is all about. The development of the first ECA Reactor happend more then 40 years ago and the major public today still does not know about it.

But the ECA project is about a GPL ECA Reactor not about comercial products.
Please respect that.
Thank you!

Please read the guidelines under which Steriplant N was added to the IHO list. IHO does NOT test claims, they just
copy manufacturer claims into their list. (http://www.iho-viruzidie-liste.de/?mode=praeambel)

Please also note that there is no standard test for virucide efficiency yet. This is also outlined in the above link.

No!
But thats exactly the point: trough the use of a ECA reactor i get not only
H2O NaCl with similar properties like NaClO but allso a solution that is extremly potent but chemicaly 99,96238% water!

I dnt turn H2O into NaClO!
Instead i generate from inside the components in the water the various microcombinations of H, O, Na, Cl for the use of water treatment. One Part of ECA Water works in a similar way like bleach but not only that. It does without the need of a chemical pollution - means there is no toxin added like NaClO - the desinfection that usualy only bleach is able to reach.
And is one among very few and expensive products what has a Viruziedie-registration for the field of public health

Basicaly you run H2O NaCl trough a electrified ECA Reactor (a flowtrough chamber with a semipermeable membrane what separates anode and cathode) and get EAW and ECW.

EAW Concentrate taste like lemmon, has acidic (antibiotic like) properties (up to ph1 and ORP 1200mV)
ECW Concentrate taste like soap and goes the other (probiotic like) direction (up to ph13 and ORP -900 mV)

Uh, but, isn't the whole point of this that you make bleach with this thing?

-MarkM-

Yup. got the wrong number there. Anyways, your DIN 901 is concerned with water treatment with sodium hypochlorite, or in more common nomenclature: bleach.

http://www.beuth.de/de/norm/din-en-901/93725064
Chemicals used for treatment of water intended for human consumption
Produkte zur Aufbereitung von Wasser für den menschlichen Gebrauch

Vineyards registration of Re-ox is no longer valid. Check for yourself at http://www.nsf.org/usda/psnclistings.asp


DIN 9001 is concerned with documentation of processes, not with validity of processes.

Lets assume this is bunk, then

• the USSSR protected themself with bunk from chemical and biological weapons douring the cold war
• western companies took the bunk knowledge and builded there own companies around this bunk without referencing to Bakhir
• this companies got legal governmental registrations for the product out of such a bunk
• they was even rewarded by the governments for extraordinary innovations for this bunk
• some airports desinfect the drinkingwater for planes with this bunk
• the product of this bunk is used for decontamination of military equipment
• a product of this bunk is DIN 901 certified in Switzerland
• this bunk product allso has a viruziedie-registration fort the field of public health

I say it again, stay to the topic, if you like to do a discussion about ECA in general please open a new thread. This thread is about https://cryptostocks.com/securities/18

Of the four articles listed on pubmed by Bakhir VM, three are simply descriptions of computer models on how activated water would work as a disinfectant if it existed in the first place. The fourth is not abstracted, but I'll source a copy tomorrow.

Now to brew that coffee. With non-activated water.

(Note that in the list below I am using the word popular not in the sense of "well-liked", but in the scientific sense of "written for the general populace, not peer-reviewed")

#5, #11, #12, #17 and #23 are in Tekhnika I Nauka, which is a popular journal. This is like listing "Scientific American" as a source.

#8, #9, #15 are from Izobretatel i ratsionalizator. Again a popular journal, this one illustrating interesting patents. This one is like listing "PM" as a source.

# 10 is Sovetsky Soyuz. A popular magazine. This is like listing "Life" as a source.

# 14 and #16 lists nedelya. This does not exist. I assume, this is meant to be Novaya nedelya, which is a popular weekly news journal. This is like listing "Time" as a source.

#19 is Pravda, the daily news journal. This is like listing the "NY Times" as a source.

#13 is Literaturnaya Gazeta, a popular weekly policial and cultural magazine. This is like listing ... I'm running out of american titles here, guys, so it's like listing German "Stern" as a source

I'll take a break here to brew some coffee. This is not looking good. By now there has not been a single publication with scientific value in there.

Diaphragmalysis is a physical principle, an cant be patented - therefore it has nothing to do with patents.

Please discuss this topics with experts not in this thread:
http://www.vbinstitute.org/about/experts/

This Project is about the development of a GPL ECA reactor.

And not a discussion thread if ECA works or not.

Everything starting at #27 through the end are author's certificates, a variant of patents used in the USSR for inventions related to food and health issues.

Patents in general have no scientific value, as they simply describe a technical method or device. They do not ascertain if any associated intended effect is actually achieved.

I'll get to the rest in a minute.

1. V.M. Bakhir. Electrochemical activation. -M.; VNIII of Medical Engineering, 1992, 2 parts - 657 pp.

2. V.I. Prilutsky, V.M. Bakhir. Electrochemically activated water: anomalous properties, mechanism of biological action. - M.; VNIII of Medical Engineering, 1997 - 232 pp.

3. V.M. Bakhir. Medical and technical systems and technologies for synthesis of electrochemically activated sterilizing, disinfectant and washing solutions / / Thesis for a degree of Doctor of Technical Sciences; M., VNIII of Medical Engineering, 1997. - 75 pp.

4. U.D. Mamadzhanov, V.M. Bakhir, G. I. Dergach. Magnetoelectric properties of drilling muds and their use for increasing drilling efficacy. - M; VNIIEGAZPROM, 1975, - 39 pp.

5. V.M. Bakhir, U.D. Mamadzhanov. Surface phenomena in disperse systems under conditions of unipolar electric exposure. // Summaries of reports. 7th ALL-Union Conference on Colloidal Chemistry and Physical-Chemical Mechanics. - Minsk : "Nauka i Tekhnika", 1997, p. 78.

6. V.M. Bakhir. A device for electric treatment of drilling mud. - UOBR. Inf. Leaflet #. 27-79, series 0812-06. -M.; VNIIEGAZPROM, 1979.

7. V.M. Bakhir. A device for electric treatment of mineralized water. - UEV. Inf. Leaflet #. 28-79, series 0812-06. -M.; VNIIEGAZPROM, 1979.

8. V. Latyshev. Wonder water. Izobretatel i ratsionalizator, # 9, 1981.

9. Yu. Yegorov. Academician Vakhidov: Activated water has perspectives. Izobretatel i ratsionalizator, # 9, 1981.

10. Yu. Yegorov. Surprises of water. Sovetsky Soyuz, # 9, 1981.

11. Ye. Yevseyev. These activated liquids. " Tekhnika I Nauka" # 11, 12, 1981; # l, 1982; #12, 1984.

12. V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye. Spektor, G.R.Mirzakarimova, U.D.Mamadzhanov, Activation in biology. "Tekhnika i Nauka", # 12, 1982.

13.Novogrudsky. “Live and dead water" - what stands behind the sensation?” Literaturnaya Gazeta # 37 (5051), 11.09.1985, p.12.

14. Will panacea really help? Nedelya # 40 (1332), 1985, p. 7.

15. V. Latyshev. 'Where do you flow, "wonder water"? "Izobretatel 1 ratsionalizator". # 2, 5, 1985.

16. S. Gurov. In search of "live" water. Nedelya , # 19 (1311), 1985, p. 17.

17. V. Bakhir, A. Podkolzin, Yu. Fridmanov, Yu. Zadorozhny, L.Spektor, N.Khabarov. Around "live" water. "Tekhnika I Nauka", # 5, 6, 1985.

18. A.A.Onatskaya, N. I. Muzalevskaya. Activated water. In book: Chemistry — Traditional and Paradoxical. L. LGU, 1985, pp. 88-114.

19. Gladkov, N. Morozov , V. Reut. Water Magic. "Pravda", # 189 (24446), 8.07.1985.

20. V.M. Bakhir, A. R. Atadzhanov, U. D. Mamadzhanov et al. Activated substances. Some questions of theory and practice. // Papers of the UzSSR Academy of Sciences. Series of Technical Sciences, 1981, # 5, pp. 68-72.

21. V.M. Bakhir, P.A. Kirpichnikov, A G. Liakumovich et al. Mechanism of altering reactivity of activated substances. // Papers of UzSSR Academy of Sciences. Series of Technical Sciences, 1982, # 4; pp. 70-74.

22. V.M. Bakhir, A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, L. E. Spektor, U. D. Mamadzhanov. Physical origin of substance activation phenomena. // Papers of UzSSR Academy of Sciences, Ser. of Techn. Sc., 1983, # 1, pp. 60-64.

23. V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye. Spektor, G. R. Mirzakarimova. Activation in biology // Tekhnika i nauka M.; Profizdat, 1982, # 12.

24. V.M. Bakhir, P. A. Kirpichnikov, A. G. Liakumovich et al. On the nature of electrochemical activation of media // Reports of the USSR Academy of Sciences, 1986, vol. 286, # 3, pp. 663-666.

25. V.M. Bakhir, N. G. Tsikoridze, L.Ye.Spektor et al. Electrochemical activation of aqueous solutions and its technological application in food industry. // Series: Food industry, Tbilisi ; Gruz.NII of Scientific and Technical Information, 1988, issue 3, 81 pp.

26. V.M. Bakhir. Regulation of physical and chemical properties of technological aqueous solutions by unipolar electrochemical exposure and experience of its practical application. // A Thesis for the degree of Candidate of Technical Sciences - Kazan: Kazan Institute of Chemical Technologies, 1985,— 146 pp.

27. V.M. Bakhir, U.D. Mamadzhanov, M.G. Maksudova et al. A method of pre-sowing treatment of cotton seeds. USSR Author's Certificate # 6633359, 1976.

28. U.D. Mamadzhanov, V.M. Bakhir. A method of removing hydrogen sulfide from gas. USSR Author's Certificate # 858892, 1978.'

29. V.M. Bakhir. A method of regulating physico-chemical properties of drilling mud. USSR Author's Certificate # 1035047, 1979.

30. U.D. Mamadzhanov, V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, R.I. Born. A method of

hydrocarbon-bearing formation drilling. USSR Author's Certificate # 961401, 1979.

31. V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, V.P. Tabakov et al. A method of developing oil pools. USSR Author's Certificate # 967142, 1980.

32. U.D. Mamadzhanov, V.M. Bakhir, M.G. Maksudova et al. A method of producing a defoliant for cotton treatment. USSR Author's Certificate # 976918, 1980.

33. V.M. Afanasov, Ye.N. Bolotsky, M.A. Zaugolnikov, A.F. Kozlov, C.I. Teveleva, S.A. Alyokhin, V.M. Bakhir, N.A. Mariampolsky, R. Karimov. A solution for etching printed circuit boards. USSR Author's Certificate # 1018266, 1981.

34. E.K. Irmatov, U.D. Mamadzhanov, S.A. Alyokhin, A.H. Nadzhimitdinov, N.A. Mariampolsky, V.M. Bakhir. A method of oil displacement from a productive formation. USSR Author's Certificate # 1019885, 1981.

35. L.A. Averko-Antonovich, S.I. Agadzhanyan, V.M. Bakhir, R.A, Garipova, B.L. Irkhin, P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.G. Liakumovich, F.G. Nigmatullina, V.I. Ponomarenko, L.Ye.Spektor. A method of releasing bi-vinyl-methyl-styrene rubbers. USSR Author's Certificate # 1036021, 1982.

36. N.H. Yusupov, A.A. Fyodorov, P.V. Terekhov, A.K. Shigapov, P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.G. Liakumovich, L.V. Verizhnikov, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye. Spektor, S.I. Agadzhanyan. A method of treating X-ray medical film. USSR Author's Certificate # 1037202, 1982.

37. A.G. Liakumovich, N. V. Lemaev, G.Z. Sakhapov, V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, L.Ye.Spektor, B.A. Grigorovich, Yu.M. Arsh, S V. Trifonov, H.H. Gilmanov, A.I. Mitrofanov, V.A. Cheusov, P.A. Kirpichnikov, N.V. Sadykov. A method of cleaning pyrolysis furnace coil from coke. USSR Author's Certificate # 1074134, 1982.

38. N.D. Lukin, N.G. Gulyuk, E.K. Koptelova, A.I. Zhushman, E.K. Sidorova, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor, A.G. Liakumovich, N.M. Popova. A method of starch hydrolysis. USSR Author's Certificate # 1078935, 1982.

39. U.D. Mamadzhanov, S.A. Alyokhin, V.M. Bakhir, N.A. Mariampolsky, E.P. Kulikov. A method of descaling heat-exchange system surface. USSR Author's Certificate # 1090664, 1981.

40. A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, N.V. Lemaev, G.Z. Sakhapov, V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, L.Ye.Spektor, B.A. Grigorovich, Yu.M. Arsh, S.V. Trifonov, A.I. Mitrofanov, V.A, Isaev, T.V. Chesnokova. A method of obtaining low olefins. USSR Author's Certificate # 1100924, 1982.

41. M.G. Lubyanskaya, U.D. Mamadzhanov, V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, R.A. Karimov, L.Yu. Andreeva, I.K. Lapkina, L.V. Schelokova. A method of softening natural water. USSR Author's Certificate # 1101419, 1982.

42. A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.K. Serobyan, L.L. Vladimirova, N.V. Tararina, F.U. Saifullina, R.R. Yunusova, N.S. Rakhimov, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor. A method of processing natural fur. USSR Author's Certificate # 1102306, 1982.

43. A.G. Liakumovich, N.V. Lemaev, G.Z. Sakhapov, V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, L.Ye.Spektor, B.A. Grigorovich, Yu.M. Arsh, S.V. Trifonov, H.H. Gilmanov, V.A. Isaev, A.I. Mitrofanov, P.A. Kirpichnikov, E.I. Galeeva. A method of producing low olefins and benzene. USSR Author's Certificate # 1112772, 1982.

44. V.M. Bakhir, P.A. Kirpichnikov, V.I. Vaver, A.G. Liakumovich, V.L. Usov, L.Ye.Spektor, E.B. Kuznetsov, U.D. Mamadzhanov, S.A. Alyokhin, E.K. Irmatov. A method of protecting pipelines against corrosive action of flowing liquids. USSR Author's Certificate # 1114083, 1982.

45. A.F. Kozlov, E.N. Bolotsky, S.I. Teveleva, V.M. Afanasov, M.A. Zaugolnikov, V.M. Bakhir, B.S. Fridman. A lubricant-coolant for mechanic processing of metals. USSR Author's Certificate # 1119340, 1982.

46. V.V. Vakhidov, U.D. Mamadzhanov, A.H. Kasymov, V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, H.I. Iskhakova, I.M. Baibekov, I.V. Ovchinnikov, N.A. Mariampolsky, P.V. Goncharov. A method of producing a fluid possessing biologically active properties. USSR Author's Certificate # 1121905, 1121906, 1121907, 1981.

47. A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, V.M. Ilyina, S.I. Agadzhanyan, L.M. Popova, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor, V.F. Malov, V.M. Poltavets, A.A. Isakov. A method of preparing desalinated water. USSR Author's Certificate # 1122616, 1982.

48. A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, L.M. Popova, S.I. Agadzhanyan, V.M. Poltavets, V.M. Ilyina, A.A. Isakov, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor. A method of preparing water for replenishing heating systems. USSR Author's Certificate # 1122617, 1982.

49. A.G. Liakumovich, V.M. Bakhir, P.A. Kirpichnikov, L.Ye. Spektor, V.I. Korneyev, N.A. Poddubny, E.N. Yurginson, B.A. Kuzmin, Rivkin, V.F. Palkin, P.U. Garner, B.S. Fridman. A method of preparing mixture for producing cores and moulds. USSR Author's Certificate # 1127684, 1983.

50. N.A. Mariampolsky, V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, A-M.Kh. Khashimov, K. Karimov. A method of cementing wells. USSR Author's Certificate # 1134699, 1980;

51. I.Yu. Averko-Antonovich, F.G. Nigmatullina, R.A. Garipova, A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, L.Ye.Spektor, V.M. Bakhir, V.I. Ponomarenko, B.L. Irkhin. A method of producing synthetic latex. USSR Author's Certificate # 1148314, 1983.

52. A.G. Liakumovich, V.M. Bakhir, N.V. Lemaev, S.A. Alyokhin, G.Z. Sakhapov, P.A. Kirpichnikov, B.A. Grigorovich. A method of producing unsaturated hydrocarbons and benzene. USSR Author's Certificate # 1154930, 1982.

53. A.G. Liakumovich, V.M. Bakhir, N.V. Lemaev, S.A. Alyokhin, G.Z. Sakhapov, P.A. Kirpichnikov, B.A. Grigorovich. A method of producing unsaturated hydrocarbons. USSR Author's Certificate # 1154931, 1982.

54. Z.H. Dzhalilov, L.N. Danielova, V.A. Dukhovny, U.D. Mamadzhanov, V.M. Bakhir, V.A. Volodin, L.Ye.Spektor. A method of preparing water for farm crop irrigation. USSR Author's Certificate # 1165638, 1984.

55. A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, L.A. Averko-Antonovich, M.G. Altykis, N.G. Volkov, S.I. Agadzhanyan, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor, R.Z.Rakhimov. A method of lime slaking. USSR Author's Certificate # 1178719, 1982.

56. A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, L.A. Averko-Antonovich, M.G. Altykis, R.Z Rakhimov, V.I. Remiznikova, S.I. Agadzhanyan, L.Ye. Spektor, V.M. Bakhir. A method of manufacturing ceramic articles. USSR Author's Certificate # 1178733, 1982.

57. P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.G. Liakumovich, S.I. Agadzhanyan, E.V. Babenko, R.A. Ertevtsian, N.I. Anoshenkov, E.P. Soldatova, A.V. Lebedev, T.N. Mordvinova, P.P. Sokolov, I.P. Vyazovsky, S.R. Ruslyakov, R.A. Torpischev, V.M. Bakhir. A washing agent to clean metal surfaces. USSR Author's Certificate # 1182812, 1984.

58. A.R. Atadzhanov, U.D. Mamadzhanov, V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, L.Ye.Spektor, N.Z. Melsitdinova, P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.G. Liakumovich, Yu.G. Zadorozhny. A method of removing hydrogen sulfide from natural gas. USSR Author's Certificate # 1212521, 1984.

59. P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.G. Liakumovich, B.S. Fridman, P.U. Garner, Yu.I. Zaitsev, A.F. Knyazev, N.P. Kuleshov, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor, A.R. Atadzhanov. A method of producing electrolyte for lead accumulators. USSR Author's Certificate # 1213923, 1983.

60. V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor, Yu.V. Latyshev, Yu.G. Zadorozhny, U.D. Mamadzhanov, G.R. Mirzakarimova, P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.G. Liakumovich. A portable device for electric treatment of liquids. USSR Author's Certificate # 1215306, 1982.

61. N.G. Tsikoridze, A.G. Liakumovich, R.G. Dadiani, P.A. Kirpichnikov, M.V. Mechekhia, S.I. Agadzhanyan, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor. A method of producing dry leaf concentrate. USSR Author's Certificate # 1216846, 1984.

62. A.G. Liakumovich, M.G. Altykis, P.A. Kirpichnikov, R. Z. Rakhimov, S.I. Agadzhanyan, L.A. Averko-Antonovich, S.G. Ganellina, N.V. Sekerina, R.I. Faizullin, R.B. Abdrazakov, Ya.M. Zapolsky, I.L. Krinkin, G.F. Samoilov, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor. A method of producing concrete mixture. USSR Author's Certificate # 1218632, 1983.

63. A.G. Liakumovich, Z.I. Khubulava, P.A. Kirpichnikov, L.I. Agvazdina, S.I. Agadzhanyan, V.H. Kadyrova, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor, L.V. Verizhnikov. A method of regenerating oxidized fats. USSR Author's Certificate # 1231868, 1983.

64. K.A. Kalunyants, T.V. Filatova, A.I. Sadova, A.A. Kochetkova, A.E. Baskayeva, V.M. Bakhir, A.G. Liakumovich, E.Ya. Butvinnik, V.D. Shishin, L.V. Sudnikovich. A method of producing malt. USSR Author's Certificate # 1279235, 1984.

65. A.G. Liakumovich, M.G. Altykis, P.A. Kirpichnikov, R.I. Faizullin, R.Z. Rakhimov, S.I. Agadzhanyan, A.T. Kuznetsov, V.M. Bakhir. A method of producing concrete mixture. USSR Author's Certificate # 1293143, 1985.

66. P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.G. Liakumovich, B.S. Fridman, P.U. Gamer, V.A Tereshkin, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor, V.P. Abreimov, V.V. Makarov, O.M. Guryanova, L.M. Shiryak, F.D. Fedotova, I.M. Magdeev, V.M. Petukhov, A.F. Kozlov, I.Z. Gizatullin, E.V. Kurnakov. A solution for chemical copper plating. USSR Author's Certificate # 1300981, 1982.

67. N.G. Tsikoridze, A.G. Liakumovich, R.G. Dadiani, P.A. Kirpichnikov, M.V. Mechekhia, S.I. Agadzhanyan, Z.I. Hubulava, V.M. Bakhir. A method of preserving citrus fruits. USSR Author's Certificate # 1341743, 1985.

68. B.A. Piskunov, V.I. Fisinin, V.M. Bakhir, V.I. Filonenko, Yu.G. Zadorozhny, L.Ye.Spektor, V.G. Shol, S.A. Alyokhin. A method of processing poultry or cattle manure. USSR Author's Certificate # 1417407, 1986.

69. A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.K. Serobyan, F.U. Saifullina, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye. Spektor, H.V. Tararina, L.L. Vladimirova, R.H. Khalitov , N.S. Rakhimov. A method of treating hair of fur skins. USSR Author's Certificate # 1437400, 1982.

70. A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.K. Serobyan, F.U. Saifullina, N.V. Tararina, L.L. Vladimirova, R.K. Nikolaeva, R.R. Yunusova, I.L. Partnov, N.S. Rakhimov, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor. A method of currying fur skins. USSR Author's Certificate # 1437401, 1982.

71. L.Ye.Spektor, V.M. Bakhir, Yu.G. Zadorozhny. A device for unipolar electric treatment of liquids. USSR Author's Certificate # 1476806, 1987.

72. L.Ye.Spektor, V.M. Bakhir, Yu.G. Zadorozhny, V.N. Shtefan. A device for unipolar treatment of liquids. USSR Author's Certificate # 1476807, 1987.

73. N.G. Tsikoridze, V.M. Bakhir, Yu.G, Zadorozhny, R.G. Dadiani, M.V. Mechekhia, R.A. Arutinov, G.I. Tsintsadze, R.R. Dzhindzholia. A countercurrent continuous-action extractor for vegetative raw mterial. USSR Author's Certificate # 1494257, 1987.

74. K.L. Shtern, N.I. Gusakov, L.Ye.Spektor, V.M. Bakhir, B.A. Piskunov, Yu.G. Zadorozhny. A method of preserving green mass of maize. USSR Author's Certificate # 1534772, 1987.

75. V.I. Fisinin, B.A. Piskunov, V.I. Filonenko, L.Ye.Spektor, T.A. Stollyar, S.A. Alyokhin, V.M. Bakhir, O.V. Bogatova, V.G. Shol, A.P. Tolkachev. A method of poultry watering. USSR Author's Certificate # 1554172, 1987.

76. K.L. Shtem, L.Ye. Spektor, A.G. Kiporenko, V.M. Bakhir, Yu.G. Zadorozhny. A method of producing a biologically active liquid. USSR Author's Certificate # 1559637, 1987.

77. V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye. Spektor, K.L. Shtern, Yu.G. Zadorozhny, N.I. Gusakov, A.G. Kiporenko. A method of producing nitrogenous fertilizers. USSR Author's Certificate # 1594917, 1987.

78. Yu.G. Zadorozhny, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor, V.S. Belikov, N.M. Lysenko, A.A. Podkolzin, N.N. Dmitriev, V.N. Shtefan, Yu.A. Grachev. A device for electrochemical treatment of liquids. USSR Author's Certificate # 1634643, 1986.

79. B.A. Piskunov, V.I. Fisinin, L.Ye. Spektor, V.M. Bakhir, V.I. Filonenko, A.M. Barkhatova, V.G. Shol. A method of storing meat. USSR Author's Certificate # 1677891, 1989.

80. V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye. Spektor, Yu.G. Zadorozhny , N.M. Lysenko, Ya.A. Rudinsky. A device for electrochemical treatment of liquids. USSR Author's Certificate # 1719316, 1986.

81. V.I. Filonenko, B.A. Piskunov, L.Ye. Spektor, V.M. Bakhir, A.M. Barkhatova, V.I. Fisinin, V.G. Shol, I.D. Eschenko. A method of poultry-keeping. USSR Author's Certificate # 1737793, 1989.

82. B.A. Piskunov, V.I. Fisinin, L.Ye. Spektor, V.M. Bakhir, Yu.G. Zadorozhny, V.I. Filonenko, S.A. Alyokhin, G.R. Mirzakarimova, O.V. Bogatova, A.I. Ikramov. A method of treating farm poultry eggs. USSR Author's Certificate # 1752401, 1986.

83. B.A. Piskunov, V.I. Fisinin, L.Ye. Spektor , S.A. Alyokhin, V.M. Bakhir, V.I. Filonenko, A.M. Barkhatova, V.G. Shol. A method of preparing water for farm poultry watering. USSR Author's Certificate # 1817286, 1988.

84. B.A. Piskunov, V.I. Fisinin, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye. Spektor , S.A. Alyokhin, V.I. Filonenko, M.Yu. Tarasova. A method of loosening plumage on farm bird carcasses, before its removal. USSR Author's Certificate # 1830665, 1987.

85. B.A. Piskunov, V.I. Fisinin, S.A. Alyokhin, A.M. Barkhatova, L.Ye. Spektor, V.M. Bakhir, A.I. Ikramov, V.I. Filonenko, V.G. Shol, N.E. Vanner. A device for disinfecting farm poultry eggs. USSR Author's Certificate # 1839299, 1988.

http://www.bakhir.com/publications/leonov_article.htm

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Bakhir

Why are all of these company presentations?

Why is there nothing about this in Reaxys, Beilstein, Houben-Weyl, SoS, Scopus, Verfahrenstechnische Berichte, Chemical Abstracts or any other indexing service?

Show me a reference to this in a peer-reviewed journal.

I totaly agree with you stan.
I can imagine that ppl have a hard time to digest ECA. It needs time for the ppl to start somewhere realizing it, denial and sarcasm was allways the blue pill oriented minds thing and is not a solution or a way to deal with this topic.

How will this help you, when there aren't even technical details? 
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You're quite right it won't, I'm just pointing out as an investment thread it's ridiculous! Classic case of baffling brains with bullshit but I can't understand why on earth people have invested...

.."oh I don't understand this or how it makes money, here take my cash" lol this forums crazy!

Ok, I want to give you an example:


How will this help you, when there aren't even technical details? 

Where's all the financial details?

Thanks for your understanding.
ECA offers as a retaliation for the inconvenience a 10% version of the 250ml EAW concentrate for 5 ECA or 10000 DVB + shipping

Gotcha, I understand thanks.

You are right, DVB was created DVC based
ECA was created BTC based

About this technical problems you would have to talk with ppl from cryptostocks.com and suggest the incorporation of multicurrency for securities.

DVB accepts DVC as a payment method.

I would love to be able to do that but unfortunatly CS is not capable for it.

I would buy some stock if you would accept DVC as payment for shares also, just fyi.

ECA accepts donations of DVB Shares in the equivalent of 50 ECA shares to [email protected]

@ PRAWDA
Great, so you understand how to do diaphragmalysis, why dnt produce your solutions yourself and observe.
In german it is:

Elektrochemische Aktivierung von wässrigen Lösungen.

Some info in german:
You find in the PDFs a study and a presentation from a Swiss ECA Company.

http://www.swisssteriplant.ch/04.downloads/laboranalysen.pdf

A presentation of the comercial Swiss company in german
http://www.swisssteriplant.ch/04.downloads/de_praesentation_kurz.pdf

English
http://www.aguapak.com/steriplant.html

A german water company what was awarded for the inovative use of ECA 2004 in english,
REDO® Water Systems received from the german Federal Ministry of Economics and Labor the Federal Award for Outstanding Innovative Achievement
http://www.redowater.com

A presentation of a Estonian Company
http://www.envirolyte-benelux.com/htdocs/media/downloads/mainbro.pdf

Izumrud Russia
http://www.izumrud.com.ru/eng/

But please convince yourself academicaly, you have all options open to do so.

I read the first post. I also understand the german part, as I'm a native german.


I speak german. However, you can just link the studies here. This is no problem. If I am too stupid to use the right search terminology, you can just go ahead and post the studies as they appear in accepted journals.


I'm not a chemist, I said I'm a physicist.


Why do you post it then? Just go ahead and post some serious stuff. You say you have 13 years of experience in "ECA"? Why don't you post something that you have done in these 13 years? 13 years is such a long time, which should not end with the necessity of doing a quick search on google.

Why don't you come along with this:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11307252
or this:
http://eprints.ucl.ac.uk/149933/

This would still be debatable but it would not be obvious that your claims are contradictory.

Why aren't devcoins accepted for this on cryptostocks?

Prawda are you going to take that mate?

@ prawda
I suggest to reread my first post and do a bether job!
40 years of studies worldwide are avalable.
Why dnt you came across the stuff ?? IDK Ask your government!
Probably not cause till 1992 this was a secret russian military technology used in case the USA would attack USSSR to be able to clean polluted waterstreams from chemical or biological weapons.
Why dnt you find studies ?? Probably cause most material is written in russian, japan or german and/or you use the wrong search terminology.
The stuff is called Anolyth or Anolyt in Europe scientific correctly made out of the two words anode and lysis. The product from this diaphragmalysis on the anode side is called anolyth or anolyt, but i guess out of copyright concerns there are many names out there.

By my meanwhile 13 years douring expirience with electrochemical activated solutions i observed one thing:
People have realy a hard time to digest this, since it is possible to create out of ordinary destilled water (H2O) with a little bit electrolyte (NaCl) just by using electricity a solution with PH 1 and ORP 1200 mV.
Last time i showed the production process to a chemist he did the measurements on all solutions and after he saw the results he went to total denial, like: this is not possible, this cant be !! Since you meantioned you are a chemist, i understand why you act like you do.
One more thing: when you ripp appart h2o and nacl by using electric currenct you end up at least with H, O, Na, Cl and various combinations of it, no radicals for you to find here ??

However i would suggest you do your homework again and search for the real truth, instead of accusing ppl of fraud. Since prawada means truth, i expected more from you.

Btw the report i posted earlyer was found by a damn quick search on google and has nothing to do with myself

Now you have posted a paper. That's pretty nice, because I'm researching in the field of molecular dynamics. So scientific papers are what I can use to evaluate certain things better than a docutainment movie.

Only looking at the title and the formulation, some questions come to my mind:

1. Why can't I find the paper on Google Scholar?
http://scholar.google.de/scholar?hl=de&q=report+on+the+efficacy+of+anolyte+in+hospitals&btnG=&lr=

Google Scholar is a search-engine for scientific publications. It cannot be found there. In which Journal has this paper been published?

Maybe Google Scholar is not specific enough (which is almost never the case). So let's do a try at ACS, american chemical society, where you can find an enormous amount of published papers. No match there.

http://search.acs.org/search?q=report+on+the+efficacy+of+anolyte+in+hospitals&client=acs_r2&output=xml_no_dtd&proxystylesheet=acs_r2&sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&entqr=3&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&ud=1&site=acs&filter=p&partialfields=&as_filetype=&as_ft=i&x=0&y=0

2. Why isn't it written in a typical style. Scientific papers are written in LaTeX, have an abstract not giving so many details, show where it was published, have a DOI or so and state clearly at which institute the research has been done. None of this is the case here.

3. Why do the authors use terms, which are all but common in scientific discussions? Anolyte? What is anolyte? Ok, I'm not a chemist, I'm a physicist with a field of research strongly connected to chemistry, but I haven't heard of anolyte. A mix of Electrolyte and Anode? Let's do a lookup at ACS:

http://search.acs.org/search?q=anolyte&client=acs_r2&output=xml_no_dtd&proxystylesheet=acs_r2&sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&entqr=3&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&ud=1&site=acs&filter=p&partialfields=&as_filetype=&as_ft=i&x=0&y=0

No entries.

4. Who are the authors? A short search yields that these guys really exist and are scientists.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9190297

We find this PubMed. That's pretty cool, because the guys show up and we even get more information on the institute:
Hospital Infection Research Laboratory, City Hospital, Birmingham, UK.

This paper states where the research has been done. There seems to be some connections between the paper posted here and the paper I found. The published paper speaks about disinfection with Glutaraldehyd and why it leads to problems (misdiagnosis, infections). No words spoken about anolyte or at least any sort of reactor purifying water. These guys seem to be researching in applied medicine.

5. Why is a mixture of radicals, with potential above 1V and pH 5-7 not corrosive ? Probably because at pH 5-7 most radicals will be neutralised. But let's do an experiment:

A 1.2V battery is put into tap water. The pH is obviously 7, there are no radicals just 2 poles. What will happen if you wait some time? The metal will corrode. As a result of flow between the 2 poles. If we throw radicals into the water the situation gets more obvious. Metal will corode faster. I just tried to setup an experiment which belongs to school chemistry or physics, which already shows that these claims seem to be wrong.

Maybe there is a mixture which holds these claims but there aren't any information what are the portions of the given radicals. What happens to them (reaction equations). And even if there was such information, this leads to the next question:

6. How can a reactor produce this "anolyte", which consists of radicals as Cl2 (which is not a radical), ClO2 and so on, without having a supply of substances freeing these radicals. The videos from Vitold Bakhir say nothing is needed. Water gets purified just by electricity. This cannot be the case with anolyte. Supply of radicals will be necessary.

7. Why do we never get information on how the portions of these radicals should be? How they are put into solution and so on. Also the paper speaks of anolyte in the introductory and in the conclusion. The main part focuses highly on glutaraldehyde, only the tables have anolyte included.


This all leads me to a conclusion:

This paper does not exist in the given shape. Everything points to the assumption that an existing paper (about glutaraldehyde) has been taken, modified and posted here. Maybe the authors are even the same, and Griffiths has been dropped. If this assumption is true, this is one of the worst things you can do with papers. Trying to look scientific underpinned by changing papers from others belongs to the worst things that can be done in the scientific community.

Even if you can clear the inconsistencies, there will always be the question why this has been posted.

you're running at 3 projects on CS. Will you be exhausted? How do you balance them?

We talk about a estimated development and production timeframe to the first physical version of mostly 6 months.
Sales of the ECA Reactor are not gonna be executed by the ECA project. Estimated dividend paying rate is depending on the amount of the preordered devices.

Since GLBSE is quite stuffed with computing and bitcoin related positions, ECA is bether positioned in CS. Less lag would be one of the other reasons.

I have two questions:

Can you estimate the dividend paying rate and time schedule?
Why not list on GLBSE but Cryptostocks?

Thank you.

In other words, "Are you stupid, or a scammer?"

For me, the most important question is:

Do you think yourself that "activated" water is any different from normal tap water?

Or do you just want to sell these "reactors" to dudes who believe in esoteric energy flows.

I i suggest to take a bit time to realize the potential of ECA and the investment opportunity.

ECA offers its shareholders prebuy rights on the devices ermerging from this development project. Direct access to plans and documentation gonna be provided while development to donors only.
At some point after the official distribution start, the plans of the GPL ECA Reactor will become public domain.

Indeed ECA can be used in a very broad area and is not only about water purification.
The intention of this project is to end up with a unique GPL ECA Reactor, and not to copy any patented device.
ECA is basicaly diaphragmalysis - a physical principle. Physical principles cant be patented only devices can.

There are various devices on the market what produce EAW, ECW, EO, EOW etc. but there is no worldwide standart for the quality of the solution. Each device works with a different configuration and uses various elements to end up with the wanted result in various properties.
This prevents a certain possibility to build up a knowledge database with the results of people worldwide. Trough the standart given by the GPL ECA Reactor this problem will be solved. The results acchived with a certain solution produced by the GPL ECA Reactor on one end of the world can then be simply reproduced by someone else who uses the same GPL ECA Reactor on the other side of the world.

ECA has nothing to do with selling EOW or EO, since this is a GPL hardware development project of a Swiss quality ECA device for EAW or ECW production.

However, by now ECA is able to send each shareholder a 250ml EAW concentrate as thankyou for a donation of 50 ECA shares @ cryptostocks.com to [email protected].
This way it becomes possible for the shareholder to get in touch with the product of a ECA Reactor.

So you making EOW or EO?

Are you going to produce the product outside of the USA and Only sell Outside of the USA?

It appears to sell EOW or EO in the US you need to go thru a EPA certification of the product.

Ticker   ECA
Name   Electro Chemical Activation Project
Listed on   September 20, 2012 19:15
Owner   richard.porubcan at gmail.com
Shares issued   100,000
Shares held publicly   193
Total dividends paid   0.0 BTC
Web page   http://glari.ch:3000/projects/eca
Security type    Shares

The goal of this project is to support the development in the area of electrochemical activation and give access to high quality ECA water. Trough the development of a GPL based ECA reactor it becomes possible to produce ECA water in the highest quality

The essence of electrochemical activation technology
Electrochemical activation is a technology to produce meta-stable substances using unipolar (anodic or cathodic) electrochemical exposure for further usage of these substances in various technological processes while they still maintain physical-chemical and catalytic overactivity.

Das Ziel deses Projektes ist es die Entwicklung im Bereich der elektrochemischen Aktivierung zu fördern und den Zugang zu qualitativ hochstehendem ECA Wasser zu erleichtern. Durch die Enwicklung eines ECA Reaktors auf GPL Basis welcher ECA Wasser in höchster Qualität herstellt.

Die Essenz der Technologie zur elektrochemischen Aktivierung
Elektrochemische Aktivierung ist eine Technologie zur Herstellung von metastabilen Substanzen durch die unipolare (anodisch , kathodisch) Einwirkung zur weiteren Verwendung in verschiedenen technologischen Prozessen wobei sie physikalisch-chemisch und katalytisch überaktiv verbleiben.

More Information about ECA

Professor Vitold Bakhir
http://www.bakhir.com/eca/

Please fast forward to min. 8:00 to hear Professor Rustum Roy:
http://vimeo.com/35724621

Professor Vitold Bakhir Video German
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzcxmQkmGlk

Update:
Sponsored trough DVB and upon request of the Devcoin comunity, ECA offers in exchange for DVC a 250ml EAW demo bottle (10% of the concentrate), please send your request to eca ad glari.ch.