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Topic: "Current proof of work algorithm will not survive the year" Dan Kaminsky, 2013 (Read 1988 times)

legendary
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SHA-256 based proof of work is a means, not an ends.  We use it to achieve a desired result - that being a decentralized network.  For the time being it is working.  Since production of silicon chips is very centralized, and it is well within the reach of many governments to amass a majority of hashing power.  

This.  Absolutely this.  If the US, or China, wants to take over Bitcoin, freeze its value relative to dollars (or Yuan), and issue as many bitcoins as they want just the same way they issue their usual currency?  A call to butterfly labs or somebody who can reverse engineer one of their chips, a gag order to prevent them from talking about it (if they even know about it), another call to Intel or somebody with a huge chip foundry, cut one big check, and done.  Anybody whose client rejects blocks where more bitcoins are created than their client thinks is kosher then finds themselves on the losing side of a chain fork.  And the updated client is available from your friendly neighborhood government offices.





POS takes over, btc/cc's continue, hence nxt's spectacular rise. Taking BTC out of the equation means little now, all it does make way for the others contenders, of class crypto's, and drives innovation even faster.


This is why people diversify in alts by class

It would not be in the central govs interest to take out btc as they are just sowing the seeds for an exponentially harder version to arise. Still Govs make bad decsions so they might still have a crack at it.



prometheous has let the idea out, and writ large that a currency can have international value without a central state issuer or gold backing it, rather that it just a better currency to do what currencies should do, enhance efficiency of trade & reflect wealth.

Few pre 2010 or even 2013 for that matter would have believed this was even remotely possible


staff
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That's just embarrassing. Who's he trying to fool?
sr. member
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yung lean
SHA-256 based proof of work is a means, not an ends.  We use it to achieve a desired result - that being a decentralized network.  For the time being it is working.  Since production of silicon chips is very centralized, and it is well within the reach of many governments to amass a majority of hashing power. 

This.  Absolutely this.  If the US, or China, wants to take over Bitcoin, freeze its value relative to dollars (or Yuan), and issue as many bitcoins as they want just the same way they issue their usual currency?  A call to butterfly labs or somebody who can reverse engineer one of their chips, a gag order to prevent them from talking about it (if they even know about it), another call to Intel or somebody with a huge chip foundry, cut one big check, and done.  Anybody whose client rejects blocks where more bitcoins are created than their client thinks is kosher then finds themselves on the losing side of a chain fork.  And the updated client is available from your friendly neighborhood government offices.





and it would only cost hundreds of millions
why would they spend that to destroy a valuable commodity producing a lose lose situation when they could just join btc and make a win win? you tin foil hat people are funny Tongue
legendary
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SHA-256 based proof of work is a means, not an ends.  We use it to achieve a desired result - that being a decentralized network.  For the time being it is working.  Since production of silicon chips is very centralized, and it is well within the reach of many governments to amass a majority of hashing power. 

This.  Absolutely this.  If the US, or China, wants to take over Bitcoin, freeze its value relative to dollars (or Yuan), and issue as many bitcoins as they want just the same way they issue their usual currency?  A call to butterfly labs or somebody who can reverse engineer one of their chips, a gag order to prevent them from talking about it (if they even know about it), another call to Intel or somebody with a huge chip foundry, cut one big check, and done.  Anybody whose client rejects blocks where more bitcoins are created than their client thinks is kosher then finds themselves on the losing side of a chain fork.  And the updated client is available from your friendly neighborhood government offices.



legendary
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legendary
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Maybe he meant A year.  He still has a few more months to be right.

SHA-256 based proof of work is a means, not an ends.  We use it to achieve a desired result - that being a decentralized network.  For the time being it is working.  Since production of silicon chips is very centralized, and it is well within the reach of many governments to amass a majority of hashing power.  Of course we have many tricks up our sleeves to counter such a threat, but most of those tricks would entail Dan's prediction coming true.  Well, maybe not the one year part.
sr. member
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Why would he say such a thing?
legendary
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“I assign a 0% probability that we will continue with the present proof of work function. The present proof of work function is not going to survive the year. Period. If there’s one hard prediction I’m going to make it’s going to be that.” – Dan Kaminsky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=si-2niFDgtI

Wanna bet Dan?  Cheesy
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