Daily Investment Compound Calculator - Newbies Attention!

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Quote from: NoorulHuda on August 13, 2021, 04:27:16 AM

There are two things which always can make you rich that are
1. Luck
2. Experience
First is most important because if you have a good luck than you can easily survive and get more valuable profit.

Sure, if you are lucky, you can come, open position with 125x leverage and wait for the immense profit within a second.

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This is attractive but you didn't add the fact that the market is volatile plus you have to keep up in investing to reach that amount that you are posting there which is unrealistic for many newbies, what this post does is that it only misleads newbies into thinking that they can make easy money investing in cryptocurrency.

No, it doesn't misleads. The reason why I posted this is to show people that trading isn't a sleep today become rich tomorrow thing. People want to make 5-10 percent profit daily and they don't realize that even in some months, such movement would make them billionaire. On another way, it's impossible to make regular profit in trading, otherwise a lot of people would conquer the world's budget in 1-2 year.

Quote from: adaseb on August 29, 2021, 12:12:53 AM

I remember years ago when I was a new traders and I bought those "learn how to trade stock" PDFs or courses. They would all talk about how "Markets travel lots of %'s everyday you only need to make 1% a day to become a millionaire in a few months". The issue is that, yes its true markets do travel maybe 2-3% up and 2-3% down every few hours or days. And all you need is a solid 1% and within a short period, if you compound it you can become a millionaire. Problem is this is easier said than done.

That's what I say. If it was that easy, everyone would become a billionaire and even more. This calculator is a pure mirror for them to see how unrealistic goals they have.

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Quote from: adaseb on August 29, 2021, 12:12:53 AM

Its a great calculator however there is one flaw in here. And the flaw is that its VERY VERY difficult to get 2% daily profit, or even 1% daily profit. Even if you got 1% profit every few days it would of been good. Most traders cannot do that.

I remember years ago when I was a new traders and I bought those "learn how to trade stock" PDFs or courses. They would all talk about how "Markets travel lots of %'s everyday you only need to make 1% a day to become a millionaire in a few months". The issue is that, yes its true markets do travel maybe 2-3% up and 2-3% down every few hours or days. And all you need is a solid 1% and within a short period, if you compound it you can become a millionaire. Problem is this is easier said than done.

Look at how many people try and trade and fail to even make 1% and keep it. Most people try and make 1% but on a losing trade end up losing 20% of their account capital.

That is the point of the OP, on the surface it may seem that getting 1% per day is not such a huge deal and if you can do it then you can become rich eventually, but very soon that 1% per day becomes exponential and the profits this produces even with a small amount of capital are enormous, as such it is obvious that no one can really get those kind of profits and we need to settle for something way more realistic than that.

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Its a great calculator however there is one flaw in here. And the flaw is that its VERY VERY difficult to get 2% daily profit, or even 1% daily profit. Even if you got 1% profit every few days it would of been good. Most traders cannot do that.

I remember years ago when I was a new traders and I bought those "learn how to trade stock" PDFs or courses. They would all talk about how "Markets travel lots of %'s everyday you only need to make 1% a day to become a millionaire in a few months". The issue is that, yes its true markets do travel maybe 2-3% up and 2-3% down every few hours or days. And all you need is a solid 1% and within a short period, if you compound it you can become a millionaire. Problem is this is easier said than done.

Look at how many people try and trade and fail to even make 1% and keep it. Most people try and make 1% but on a losing trade end up losing 20% of their account capital.

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Quote from: so98nn on August 26, 2021, 05:14:51 AM

You have just shown one side of the whole thing man! The fact that we also loose money has not been considered in your calculation. The compounding math is correct but the major factor such as market crash, loss of money while trading is missing here. Moreover, if you are gonna compounding then it's like a game of different levels. If you reach at level 3 with certain % of compounding but at this point market start crashing then you could end up loosing 2x, 3x% and who knows more considering the volatility of the market. So you could just drop to level 0 in no time and may need to start from the scratch. So please make sure you consider this kinda factor too.
You can't have profits everyday, neither you can have best day in rows.

That is not really what the OP is trying to demonstrate here, it is obvious that no one is going to win every single trade that they make but newbies have those kind of expectations, so what the OP is doing is to demonstrate how out of place those thoughts really are by projecting those profits to the future and see how something as small as 1% daily can generate huge profits in less than a year, this is why Ponzi schemes promising anything like that are always a scam as there is no way anyone can produce those kind of profits and yet offer to other people to invest with them as they could just obtain huge profits on their own regardless of their starting capital and never reveal to anyone that they can do this.

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You have just shown one side of the whole thing man! The fact that we also loose money has not been considered in your calculation. The compounding math is correct but the major factor such as market crash, loss of money while trading is missing here. Moreover, if you are gonna compounding then it's like a game of different levels. If you reach at level 3 with certain % of compounding but at this point market start crashing then you could end up loosing 2x, 3x% and who knows more considering the volatility of the market. So you could just drop to level 0 in no time and may need to start from the scratch. So please make sure you consider this kinda factor too.
You can't have profits everyday, neither you can have best day in rows.

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I don't even thing that newbies have any idea about these calculations, they would be puzzled here and will lose their money, because no one know in trading about the coins unless they attain some of the trading strategies for themselves , and without loss i didn't think that one has experience, the more the losses the more you will learn in this crypto market.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on August 24, 2021, 05:48:17 PM

Even with the daily investment compound, one won't be able to make that much as projected by the calculator with trading. Along the way, a trader is bound to make a loss. You can't make wins 356 times straight out. It's unrealistic Wink

But you are somewhat right, compounding is an awesome strategy so long as you are very patient, keep your win rate high and have a good Risk reward ratio.

You are right, no one can have success 364 day trading but the reason why I stated 1% example is that crypto is so volatile that if you are a little bit patiente, you can easily catch 1% movement or at least use 2x leverage and catch 0.5% movement. At the same time, I think people are smart enough to sometimes choose the right time to buy and hold for a while to get 50% and even more profit in some days or weeks like this happened recently with btc going up to 50k from 30k. The combination of realistic goals and right time will lead to success.

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Quote from: shield132 on August 10, 2021, 06:21:04 PM

I often see threads/posts here on the subject - why newbie traders always lose, why only smallest percentage of traders profit, etc.

The root of your problem is that you want to becom rich just in one day and that's where the daily compound interest calculator shines to prove that your strategy of getting 10% and more on every trade is very wrong because if you would continue like that, you would be a billionaire just in a very short time frame.

Let's say that you have $1000 and your aim is daily 2% profit (it doesn't have to be in a row).

$1000, daily 2% profit with reinvestment for 365 days = $1,377,408.29 = 137640.8% profit.

$1000, daily 5% profit with reinvestment for 180 days = $6,517,391.84 = 651639.2% profit.

$1000, daily 1% profit with 10x leverage (1%*10=10%) for 90 days = $5,313,022.61 = 531202.3% profit.

Here is the url - https://www.thecalculatorsite.com/finance/calculators/daily-compound-interest.php

Also, remember that people usually invest millions and if $1000 can bring you such an enormous profit by your strategy when you think that you can easily make some percent daily, then millionares would buy the world.

Thanks for posting this, earning 1% daily seems like such a small amount of profits but when you actually see the number you can reach in only one year you begin to see how difficult that really is, newbies do not understand that even if you can do that once in a while it is impossible to pull this off regularly and that there is no system that does not produce losses, so they create flawed strategies with unrealistic goals which make them lose their money.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on August 24, 2021, 05:48:17 PM

Even with the daily investment compound, one won't be able to make that much as projected by the calculator with trading. Along the way, a trader is bound to make a loss. You can't make wins 356 times straight out. It's unrealistic

Indeed, no one can make continuous and regular profits especially given the volatility of the crypto market but as he mentioned in the OP also, you don't have to always make a 2-5% daily but it can be like you earned 10% today and then you had 4 bad days where you didn't made any profits.

Quote from: passwordnow on August 13, 2021, 06:13:43 AM

the thing is, it's not always a 1%-5% win for them. Not every day is a win to them but that's an encouraging calculator that you've shown but I'll choose the slower, less stressful, and lesser rewarding way.

The calculator is not there to calculate your profit every single day. It is meant to explain to others how compounding can grow your money. Even when you earn interest from banks, you calculate the compound interest and it tells you a different story.

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Compound interest and income are actually underrated aspects of trading and savings. That said, I don't think earning 2% daily is a realistic approach because you have good and bad days in trading and then sometimes you have to wait for weeks to even get the initial investment back.

But, I like your theory and agree that most of the traders are looking to get rich quickly which is exactly the biggest reason for their losses. We must set realistic goals and earning any amount or percentage of money is good. Getting too hyped because others are making more than you will neither help you earn more nor let you satisfy within your small profits.

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Even with the daily investment compound, one won't be able to make that much as projected by the calculator with trading. Along the way, a trader is bound to make a loss. You can't make wins 356 times straight out. It's unrealistic Wink

But you are somewhat right, compounding is an awesome strategy so long as you are very patient, keep your win rate high and have a good Risk reward ratio.

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Quote from: passwordnow on August 13, 2021, 06:13:43 AM

That's a stressful activity that you'll do for the whole year. It's a good inspiration to see such numbers but when you're already on the field and do that, I don't think that I'll be able to stay there for long. I might wait and hold which is a better thing to me but I know that there really are traders that are aiming for such. But the thing is, it's not always a 1%-5% win for them. Not every day is a win to them but that's an encouraging calculator that you've shown but I'll choose the slower, less stressful, and lesser rewarding way.

The reason why I posted the url of that calculator is that people usually seek for 10% and higher profits daily. Even they think that it's as easy as ABC to make 2-3% profit daily and don't really think if life was that easy how they would end up like billionaires in just one year.

The most stressful thing that I find is constantly checking your portfolio. Because of that this is what I do: I save my savings in bitcoin, then just doesn't care how much money I have in bitcoins and I am waiting to hear the news about how bitcoin's price has skyrocketed. I usually try to act like a news deprived person and that works very well for me, otherwise I would end up insane with no sleep and derealisation at all.

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That's a stressful activity that you'll do for the whole year. It's a good inspiration to see such numbers but when you're already on the field and do that, I don't think that I'll be able to stay there for long. I might wait and hold which is a better thing to me but I know that there really are traders that are aiming for such. But the thing is, it's not always a 1%-5% win for them. Not every day is a win to them but that's an encouraging calculator that you've shown but I'll choose the slower, less stressful, and lesser rewarding way.

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Quote from: shield132 on August 10, 2021, 06:21:04 PM

Let's say that you have $1000 and your aim is daily 2% profit (it doesn't have to be in a row).

$1000, daily 2% profit with reinvestment for 365 days = $1,377,408.29 = 137640.8% profit.

$1000, daily 5% profit with reinvestment for 180 days = $6,517,391.84 = 651639.2% profit.

$1000, daily 1% profit with 10x leverage (1%*10=10%) for 90 days = $5,313,022.61 = 531202.3% profit.

There are two things which always can make you rich that are
1. Luck
2. Experience
First is most important because if you have a good luck than you can easily survive and get more valuable profit.
With second thing can make you rich if you are trading wisely.

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because crypto currency market is so volatile

I agreed to you here can stand only an experienced person.

Newbies should learn first than they should dive in the trading ocean.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on August 10, 2021, 11:26:04 PM

The fact that you don't even know how you can maintain your profits everyday because crypto currency market is so volatile, is one of the common reason newbies don't get the real value of holding.
Actually i believe also that its depends how good the project is wherein you put your money . But for me it's still unpredictable if there's a chance you will receive that amount after all base on your calculations.. Perhaps when it comes staking it's possible to happen in my opinion, but not accurate, i mean the results of profits will not be same as well afterwards..

Not just that you do not know how,,, the fact that it is impossible. Even staking if guaranteed, only grows your token number, but the price cannot grow alongside,,, hence you can end up with 2x the tokens for 100% gains, but overall lose when price goes down below 50% and I can promise you POS coins always do this.

As OP points out compounding proves that any kind of GUARANTEED profit, no matter how small, is simply unsustainable, and therefore impossible.

I think instead of teaching noobs about compounding fallacy, better to teach them that guaranteed profits is a fallacy.

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The fact that you don't even know how you can maintain your profits everyday because crypto currency market is so volatile, is one of the common reason newbies don't get the real value of holding.
Actually i believe also that its depends how good the project is wherein you put your money . But for me it's still unpredictable if there's a chance you will receive that amount after all base on your calculations.. Perhaps when it comes staking it's possible to happen in my opinion, but not accurate, i mean the results of profits will not be same as well afterwards..

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I often see threads/posts here on the subject - why newbie traders always lose, why only smallest percentage of traders profit, etc.

The root of your problem is that you want to becom rich just in one day and that's where the daily compound interest calculator shines to prove that your strategy of getting 10% and more on every trade is very wrong because if you would continue like that, you would be a billionaire just in a very short time frame.

Let's say that you have $1000 and your aim is daily 2% profit (it doesn't have to be in a row).

$1000, daily 2% profit with reinvestment for 365 days = $1,377,408.29 = 137640.8% profit.

$1000, daily 5% profit with reinvestment for 180 days = $6,517,391.84 = 651639.2% profit.

$1000, daily 1% profit with 10x leverage (1%*10=10%) for 90 days = $5,313,022.61 = 531202.3% profit.

Here is the url - https://www.thecalculatorsite.com/finance/calculators/daily-compound-interest.php

Also, remember that people usually invest millions and if $1000 can bring you such an enormous profit by your strategy when you think that you can easily make some percent daily, then millionares would buy the world.

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