David Cameron plans to allow police to vet anyone's internet communications

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Quote from: J. J. Phillips on May 13, 2015, 11:10:10 AM

Well, to be fair, all the major parties in Britain are in favor of total surveillance. Unfortunately they read Orwell's 1984 as a manual, not a warning.

It's not this way in spite of the British people. The British people are mostly in favor of total surveillance and absolute state control as well, at least based on their voting patterns.

Conclusion: British people are fucking dangerously stupid.

The 2 parties in America are not as different as they would like you to believe.

I agree. They say different things, but in the end they both serve the same corporate overlords. I vote 3rd party, as if it matters.

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It's good if they want to stop rumors from being spread on these social networking websites but just monitoring all citizens isn't a good idea. Some countries think only about the negatives of these websites and consider them a threat. I wouldn't like anyone to constantly police my activities on the internet even though I don't do anything wrong. I respect my privacy.

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Switch off Big Brother - Cameron

Viewers unhappy at being constantly monitored by their home entertainment devices should switch off their TVs, Conservative leader David Cameron has said.
Answering questions sent in to the BBC he said there was "a great regulator called the off button", adding that people had to "take responsibility".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/6272397.stm

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It's not just the UK. Canada, a lot of other countries in Europe, America, etc. There were always attacks on civil liberties. But since 9/11 it's been getting worse faster than what gets better.

The biggest problem I have with this country is there are actually a number of people who think this is a genuinely good idea, most of the time when these crazy laws are written very few people will enforce them or go along with it, but here, It's like they have no will of their own.

England prevails! Tongue

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I use bitcoin. Am I classed as an "extremist"?

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Quote from: Lethn on May 15, 2015, 06:58:12 PM

Do you guys understand why I hate this country yet? Tongue

It's not just the UK. Canada, a lot of other countries in Europe, America, etc. There were always attacks on civil liberties. But since 9/11 it's been getting worse faster than what gets better.

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Quote from: J. J. Phillips on May 13, 2015, 12:32:05 PM

"if you have have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear."

Someone said something like that to me once when the topic came up over surveillance. I swifty asked them if they drew their curtains at night. They replied with a yes. I accused them of doing something illegal, because they must be because they are trying to hide something.
They quickly shut up.

Works well with these too: do you close the door when you go to the bathroom? why don't you show me all your emails and sms if you have nothing to hide?

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Quote from: J. J. Phillips on May 13, 2015, 11:10:10 AM

Well, to be fair, all the major parties in Britain are in favor of total surveillance. Unfortunately they read Orwell's 1984 as a manual, not a warning.

It's not this way in spite of the British people. The British people are mostly in favor of total surveillance and absolute state control as well, at least based on their voting patterns.

Conclusion: British people are fucking dangerously stupid.

The 2 parties in America are not as different as they would like you to believe.

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Do you guys understand why I hate this country yet? Tongue

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It’s Not Enough To Follow The Law, You Must Love Big Brother

Creepy Cameron says it. The master addressing his slaves. Who the hell votes for these people? It staggers the imagination.

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Quote from: saddampbuh on May 13, 2015, 11:38:43 AM

most people agree with it because "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear", all the government has to do is mention pedophiles or terrorism and the idiots start frothing at the mouth.

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Yup, and the problem is that sooner or later people will suffer who should not. For example it used to be illegal where I live (california) for gay men to have sex with each other. Who gives a crap what gay people do? Its silly. But its only a matter of time until some nut job on a crusade gets elected and starts a witch hunt, for something that is illegal but shouldn't be. Or just over something legal that they dont like.

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Quote from: J. J. Phillips on May 13, 2015, 12:32:05 PM

"if you have have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear."

Someone said something like that to me once when the topic came up over surveillance. I swifty asked them if they drew their curtains at night. They replied with a yes. I accused them of doing something illegal, because they must be because they are trying to hide something.
They quickly shut up.

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Islam and Nazism are belief systems, not races.

Quote from: saddampbuh on May 13, 2015, 11:38:43 AM

most people agree with it because "if you have nothing to fear you have nothing to hide", all the government has to do is mention pedophiles or terrorism and the idiots start frothing at the mouth.

It's usually inverted: "if you have have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear." I think I like your version better. Please try not to post things I agree with.

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This is why politics is a joke. Did they ever mention they were going to do this before they get elected? They just sell their entire campaign on a few 'issues' but then when they get in they do hundreds of other things they never mentioned in the first place.

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most people agree with it because "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear", all the government has to do is mention pedophiles or terrorism and the idiots start frothing at the mouth.

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Quote from: J. J. Phillips on May 13, 2015, 11:10:10 AM

Well, to be fair, all the major parties in Britain are in favor of total surveillance. Unfortunately they read Orwell's 1984 as a manual, not a warning.

It's not this way in spite of the British people. The British people are mostly in favor of total surveillance and absolute state control as well, at least based on their voting patterns.

Conclusion: British people are fucking dangerously stupid.

Perhaps you noticed that in most countries we have only one ruling elite, and the same powers/corporations behind all of them. So, which finger of the very same hand do you favour? (I'm afraid eventually we are all going to get the middle one.)

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Islam and Nazism are belief systems, not races.

Well, to be fair, all the major parties in Britain are in favor of total surveillance. Unfortunately they read Orwell's 1984 as a manual, not a warning.

It's not this way in spite of the British people. The British people are mostly in favor of total surveillance and absolute state control as well, at least based on their voting patterns.

Conclusion: British people are fucking dangerously stupid.

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Didn't take dodgy Dave long to reveal his true colours

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The plans would allow the police to ask the higher court to order extremists to be banned from broadcasting and send every tweet, Facebook post or other web communication to the police for approval. That would include posts from users telling friends and followers that their communications were now being vetted, or ones denying the extremism claims that led to them being charged under such measures.

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As well as the online bans, the plans would see groups being banned from using hate speech in public spaces, even if their behaviour does not mean that they should be banned altogether.

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The plans have already received criticism from civil liberties groups who claim that the ban on “extremists” could be used to cover anyone, including protestors that the government disagrees with.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/new-counterextremism-plans-to-allow-police-to-ask-to-vet-anyones-internet-communications-10246381.html

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