Topic: Dead member account suddenly active? (Read 953 times)

I may have this wrong but I see absolutely no problem with a branded account being used by multiple people. If for example the Cloudbet account was initially being used by their representative before another called "Ronnie" took over duties and later another employee is using it, that is not forwned upon and rightfully so.

There might be some cases where multiple users are using the same (non-branded) account and it make sense for them to do so according to their own specific set of circumstances. I think most members here would automatically connect multiple users operating a single non-branded account with nefarious purposes but it is not always the case.

That you don't see any problem with that is just your perception but I think the community frowns at that. Once there's an announcement of such, trust me that account will get fresh red paintings. Many users are of the opinion that it's identity theft and can't be blamed if they see it that way. Like you rightly stated below: 👇

...that your writing styles aren't likely to be the same, it should be sensible for your wife or whoever inherits your accounts to cut a niche for themselves. This is to not deceive and misappropriate unmerited reputation or trust to someone who may not be worthy of it. Different writing patterns and obviously different posting styles should be enough indications not to continue with your account.

The case of dead account. If a person who is managing an account is dead and is officially known by the forum members and within some years or months the account resurrect. You have no option to report and people who is into the system knows what obtainable and the penalty of the account. And i want you to know that if forum notice that member or user of account is dead what they do immediately is to flag the account so that someone will not impersonates with the account. I think it's very obvious to the forum.

Which is happening, especially with branded accounts which are representing a company, basically employees are using it, rather than a central figure. However, I guess that could be argued to be different, since its representing the brand, and not the person behind the account.

Really though, I don't think too many users here are sharing their account with someone else, seems like you wouldn't gain much, other than potential privacy by reducing stylometry. Other than that, I would think the cons outweigh the pros.

she's allowed to use your account and no one is stopping her but I am pretty sure even if your wife explained who she is, there are people who would still have a problem with it especially if she can't prove that she is actually the wife of the original owner of the account.

If the account creates a thread on meta or Reputation and explains who he is and why he is using this account, I don't see any problem here. If I die and my wife wants to use this account because maybe she can earn some money from a signature campaign, She should be allowed to do that. But, Appropriately. My writing style and my family members' writing style is not the same.

Indeed, we should not play about with death, and I don't believe that has happened in this case. But in reality, people will do anything to avenge someone who denied them of their desires, even if it means losing something. There is usually one negative thought among many in the human mind; it isn't all good.

Sorry I have to quote you on that. But that will be a serious offence if anyone does that to falsely announce the death of any member, no matter the excuse or reason. Am not sure that has happened here once. Death is not something to toy with.

This is simply possible. If and only if another member of the deceased person's family, close friends, or anybody else who previously had access to the account knew the password to the account, it is possible for a dead account to resurrect and begin posting on the forum. If a user's account has been marked as dead, I propose that no user should be able to access it again; instead, it should only be possible to visit the account to read the user's previous postings and, if there are any, his forum contributions for instructional purposes. Also, a tag indicating that the user is no longer present should be added to the account.

And this notion may possibly lead to other things. People marking other people as deceased because they had problems with them in the past or because they gave them lack of trust (bad reputation). They could wish to use this as retaliation. Aside from this, the forum moderators might be able to handle incidents of death in a more effective manner.

N.B: This is just a suggestion, please don’t misquote me

What if the account is being used by more than person in the first place and then one of the operators dies?

And what happens if someone is (let us say) dead and their account has been tagged but they have opted to have their brain cryogenically stored and they return back to the forum decades later?

I think, Lovesmayfamilis is right. Even if an account is genuinely transferred to another person, be it a relative or a close friend, it is same as being hacked. Every account is peculiar to a particular person, the online personality has a reputation transferred to the account, so it will never be right for anyone to enjoy a good reputation they didn't build, or inherit a bad reputation they are unaware of.

Impersonation is a crime, it is in same reason that academic certificates are not transferable.
If anyone kicks the bucket, the best thing for anyone who knows the person to do is to inform the forum and the deceased giving the last honour and the account respected.

Well if it’s confirmed that the account has changed hands surly nobody will trust that account anymore, and at the same time as long as the new owner isn’t doing any suspicious activities or trying to scam using the high rank and trust that account earned then i will say everything is fine and doesn’t need to be red flagged.
Xd for those who believes in spirit that the dead person will come back for his account and start posting again that’s silly. If that person could get in touch with the real world again he would have plenty other things to do.

It's natural for an account not to be active for 1 year 2 year or even more than that but there is something to suspect, a bounty hunters account can be found not being for that long reason because he is failed up with bounty's due to join fake or dead projects at this point they might think the forum is not favorable to keep them earning which might leads to go source for physical works that he can be paid hourly or daily if not of monthly. At this point if the user login back to the forum there would be a note on his profile.
Other might be for a reason that such user email has been hacked I think it's only through mail account could be restored back here this might be that a friend might steal their email password to again access to their btt account. Then lastly, if account changes posting methods or often creating post rather than before or constantly posting in another local board unlike the previously does at this stage we should be able to detect account has been sold out or change hands.

 

all this time i thought you were a girl

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Op as I'm African if I knew that person Z died and months later his account is active I would think it was a ghost! it reminded me that in the past there was a forum member who was announced that he died, that day I was sad because I liked him a lot even though I didn't know him personally I just interacted with him here on the forum. A person's account always goes along when the person dies. I consider the forum account with someone's soul, all the history of years is there in the account, so I support that if someone dies the account should be marked with negative feedback

Crypto people tends to disappear in mysterious manners. I think diseases are rather premade nowadays, so whatever you died of, probably not out of randomness.

Nobody seems to know exactly what the problem is, but it's always possible to think that someone has managed to find their account to log in (family, relatives or hackers or maybe admin?). That's my guess, it doesn't have to be right.

I don't think some of the questions about it are wrong as some people might need to know why. However, for users who have been confirmed dead, the admin may be able to ban the account, but for other reasons I doubt whether the family has the right to control the account because the account has changed hands.

I checked his profile and his last post there was on August 9, 2013, months before his death in 2014. I guess his death was not by sudden because he stopped posting months earlier. Possibly he was bedridden. Does anyone know what happened after his death that the account became active but did not make any posts? Situations like that should raise some questions.

If this happens, its simple, someone else, probably a family member was able to have access to the account and decided to continue from where the other late family member stopped, or maybe a hacker was able to break his or her way into the account and decided to start using it.

who ever it is that gained access to a dead member account doesn't really matter, what is important to note is that that account has changed hands and we don't know who the new owner is neither do we know the persons motive, so such an account deserves a tag, to warn members and even non member that would want to do any kind of business with such account not to trust it, at least until the new user is able to prove his or her legitimacy to the community.

After reading today what they did to thousands of other newbies here on the forum, calling them dumb/scammers, deleting their messages, throwing red and yellow flags, banning and deleting accounts:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60613625
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60584638
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60581479
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60584776
- I understood here an absolute dictatorship that puts pressure on any expression of will and other thought. Even you couldn't resist them with more than a thousand merit. This is very sad to watch. This group of people called me scammers and do you know why? Because I created my own topic in the exchange thread, describing my exchange conditions to everyone and never scammed anyone. I pressed the "Oppose" button, I hope others will wake up and see what injustice is happening here every day, when some users use their authority to do all this

That still doesn't help if the account was hacked or sold and the person is lying that they handed over the account to one of their relatives.

I was a newbie about 4 years back, how come the "bullshit" didn't silence me?

Why would your family members need Legendary account in the first place? Again we are coming back to the reasons I mentioned and that is to either scam someone or to leech off the forum via signature campaigns. Its funny to see that some people see bitcointalk account like some sort of family heirloom lol.


Legit newbies don't have issues on the forum just because of their rank. And yeah, reputation is something that has to be earned.

This is where you find a flaw in the trust system, which ofcourse should be countered and set to 0.

Not sure if you noticed but there's a box in your profile where you can set your addy from which you sign.


Also a funny note, there's a lot of bullshit on the forum. It's really easy to silence newbies.

Alright, you who has some “logic”, Tell us how you can publically make a change of hands;
1. When you are already dead?
2. Without making people think that the account has been hacked/sold but a bogus reason of family member of taking over the account is being used?
3. The person taking over the account will be as trustworthy as the previous owner, especially if the previous owner had good reputation?

If you get that picky, well then my family member would probably have the keys to sign in my name by then.
Death does knock on the door at times.

I'm not sure why would my familiar have to go thru all the shit of becoming legendary, when the change of hands was legit. Cannot but love this forums logic where as long as you don't say you got the account you fine, but as long as you honest you at the very least red tagged.

Ofcourse you wouldn't trust any familiar with this.

How do you plan to make it public if you are already dead, and why would anyone trust your (or anyone else's for that matter) family member? So yeah, no surprise that in that case people would tag the account.

After all, what would be the reason to use someone else's account other than scam someone, or try to leech of the forum via signature campaigns?

If I die and I want a family member to use the account next AND we make public the change of hands, i don't see why there should be any red tag, there's a long history of cuntism in this forum where logic and common sense aren't used lack, this is one of the cases in my opinion.

If you actually care about a conversation you wouldn't mind using a anon account for any reason, then why bother to make an account look well? Esthetics maybe, generally, just interest.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60589121

I try to read all posts before I write something, especially in threads that have relatively few replies. The Hal Finney case was mentioned in post #7.

It doesn't get deactivated per say. It goes into a archived state which basically means that if it's logged into after a certain period, it'll show in the security log, and on the persons trust page. However, deactivated no. I'm assuming unless an account is known to be compromised, it'll forever lie in that dormant archived state.

The way to get an account deactivated, and by that I mean banned would be to talk to the admins/global moderators about it. That's if you want to assure that the account isn't logged into, but setting a very strong password should be enough for the conceivable future.

Does an account gets deactivated on this forum after a long period of use?
 If it does, how long will it take for an account to be activated when not used?

Right, but not that many users. Plus, they don't need the account for that, unless it's a business account. It's quite well known that branded forum accounts that represent a business are shared logins anyhow. Technically, it's seen as a company asset rather than personal asset then. Obviously, the forum owns it, but you get what I mean. However, even if the account in question represents a smaller business, they could announce ahead of time, that x is also related to the business, and if any any even which means the primary account can't run the business, it'll be passed on.

Personal accounts should ideally be kept as that. Business accounts can be opened at any one time, and alt accounts while for some reason frowned upon by the many, would make absolute sense here. Its the perfect example of when a alternate account makes sense.

You could say the newly registered account wouldn't have as much trust or authority, which is what we're trying to achieve here. However, being directly endorsed by the primary account, they do inherit some sort of trust level. Since, you'd probably expect someone who is trustworthy wouldn't want to be business partners with someone that isn't.

If you have a dedicated/branded business account, fair enough. However, if you have a personal account, which happens to do business from time to time, a passing of the torch sort of scenario could be put in place. I know with unexpected deaths it can complicate things, but ideally if you're doing regular business, and you have clients relying on you, you should have a contingency in place for unexpected events anyhow, and getting your partner or whoever you wish to take over in that event, to create a new account before hand, makes the most sense to me.

It seems complicated. Maybe before she use it, she will ensure it that I am no more and she is in the possession of the account now. Few members can leave neutral feedback and use the post for reference. This will help to avoid all confusion.


It's not about signature campaign. There are many members who have business associated with their forum account. The forum reputation is running their business. If family members are involved in the business then the account is useful for them.

The Pharmacist was absolutely spot on though. Only Bitcointalk could have such a conversation, and you've got to look into why. Probably, because most users thinking of this are thinking about the earning opportunity that the forum brings, which I kind of get you want the best for your family once you've passed on. However, you've also got to respect the community, and all the questions something like this brings up. Much better, to encourage your partner or family to get involved now, and build their own account up. That's the solution, that's your contingency if you want your family to be able to earn if you aren't around any more.

In most instances, the most respectable thing to do is let the account go dormant, and preserve that memory. Potentially getting it banned via request to an admin if you're worried about the account potentially getting compromised.

That is a different thing entirely, you are talking about acquired wealth and properties when you refer to cars, houses and money being inherited, of course if i had any/plenty of that (sadly i do not), then i'd want my family to inherit it, hell, it would even be included in my will how it should be shared amongst them; but a bitcointalk account? Hell no, of what benefit would it be to any of my family member to keep this account when i'm no longer around, a bitcointalk account isn't a 'property', it is just an online account on a platform for discussing Bitcoin and other whatnots. Now let me make ask a question with something more similar, using online accounts on different other platforms, would you have your family member inherit your Facebook, TG, IG or Whatsapp account when you're no more? No right? Then why a Bitcointalk account?

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What about trust and reputation. Your account is a trusted one here, of course as a result of what you have done over the years in the forum, do not get me wrong, i'm not saying your next of kin isn't a trustworthy person, but trust isn't inherited, if i trust you and i am unaware that your account has changed hands and is in the custody of another, what if something goes wrong whilst i try to deal with the current user whom i think is you. I might be overthinking things, but i think an account shouldn't exist once the original owner is no more.

Interesting subject. I have an example for you, not one that was posting, but that was connecting after his death. He died in 2014, yet he was still connecting until 2017. It's this account: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hal-2436

The famous guy who received the first bitcoin transaction.

I will say though, I would find it a little odd if someone inherited an account. I mean, I wouldn't want anyone in my family to inherit my account. Maybe, to confirm death, but I wouldn't want them to use it, and anyway they can create a new account, and just let theymos or an admin know through that new account rather than accessing mine. Plus, I wouldn't want to inherit someone's account either. The whole situation doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. It's not like money that you can inherit or a boat. The account is effectively an extension of you. It represents you, rather than a possession item.

Just to play devil's advocate here; You can't, but you can't automatically distrust them either. A neutral tag letting users know that the account has been inherited could be a way of going about this. That's if users want to go the innocent until proven guilty route. Obviously, that neutral tag stands there to sort of discredit any posts before the account changed hands. However, I would expect the vast majority of DefaultTrust would paint the account red. However, the user inheriting the account might not even care about the trust rating.

This is all assuming there's proof, which I believe might be a little hard to do considering most accounts are pseudonymous at the very least. Most users families here probably aren't even aware of this account.

That's the preferred approach to this obviously. I'm not quite sure what you're asking is allowed or not, but either of these two options would be allowed per the forum rules. Obviously, concerning the trust system is a little different.

As long as the signature campaign managers are made aware, they can act appropriately based on their own criteria.

Then my girl will pretend that she is me. No one will have any idea that the account is not to the right next of kin. By the way, I was considering hypothetical event. It's obviously funny.

Personally I would like to see my next of kin will keep my account alive to keep my memory alive. Maybe it could be for money (if signature campaign still continues) or any family business I will have associated with the account or it could be just to explore the ideas I left behind or anything else. I will have not idea what situation they will be in.

So I missed this comment earlier on. Let me ask you, what happens to those who inherit the properties of death people like their accounts in the bank, their houses and cars? There are people who even refuse to drop the mobile phones and sim cards of their dead ones. They continue to use them. Are you going to also say they are vultures too like the Pharmacist referred to them?



But what if mods do not take note of such news to ban those account. We can not be sure they ban deceased accounts. I do not know how to check banned accounts, I would have checked the ones I know that are dead.

Most provably the account of known dead person has been banned by the mods so most provably this is not possible to recover by anyone unless the said user didn't create any noise towards the incident happen to the decease person.


But in case that one happen I think the only way to find out if the account has been activated again is to ask a sign message nor verify the user by asking question if he is relative of the decease users to clarify things out this issue.

if the incident was related to an account with a good reputation on the forum, I think it would be easy to tell from the quality of the posts or the posting habits of the actual account owner.
but if the case occurs in accounts that are not involved with proper discussion, or accounts that are indeed used only for bounty campaigns. I don't think anyone will notice.

but if the death of the account owner has been published by friends or relatives in the forum, I think if someone returns to using the account, whoever uses it again. certainly have to make another statement. Neutral tags can be assigned by other members to indicate the current status of the account.
but if the goal is just to make money from the campaign, I guess that could be a mistake.

That was funny. But do you want to believe anyone cares who is uncle or brother? Online people only care about conversations and not family relatives and their sex.


Maybe you did not understand the question well. It is not about a deliberate passing over of the account to another person. The death member will not know of it. He dies and after some time another person, maybe a family member, who is interested in cryptocurrency finds his password and starts posting from the account.


Do not be alarmed. That type of scenario is contemplated here because this site gives people an opportunity to make conversations and earn from it. That is why. And it will be the same thing anywhere where faceless people earn talking.

Tbh, i do not think a user's family member can even think of doing something as ludicrous as that, and if it ever happens or has happened previously, then your description of them above is not far from the truth. I have already said it in this thread that if a late user's family member likes Bitcointalk and they are nothing like your description above, then they will register and have their own account, to even think of inheriting someone else's Bitcointalk account is a thought that shouldn't even cross a sane person's mind.

Jesus, only on bitcointalk would a conversation like this happen--or a scenario like the above even be contemplated.

This is a discussion that can go round and round without any changes being made, and I think it's kind of a pointless one since there's not likely going to be any consensus formed as to what to do in the case of a member dying.  If a member's death is verified (which is rare, I'd think) then members can tag them if they want, and nobody can stop them--same thing as a live member.  Personally I think a neutral would be fine just to warn the community in case the account gets resurrected in the future, but I'm not sure how likely it is for a dead member's family to start using their account to earn money.  Sounds like a family of vultures to me, and if they're going to do that....fuck 'em.

You wouldn't be able to trust anyone except the original account owner, period.  But how often has this happened on the forum anyway?  Is this even worthy of a debate?

I think you forgot to mention one and that is,

Even if it should be the deceased to have risen from the dead, the user is primarily not the same person anymore.

You can't cross realms and still get to come back whole and be the same.
Reputations are something we can't transfer and as such, I won't trust it. Be a sibling, relative, parent, friend, spouse and whatever relationship that might exist within our worldly existence, the user is gone and its done.

Having access to the account doesn't make it original. The bottom line woul always be, its a new user behind the account and there would always be changes in content to prove and it remains that, the user can't be trusted. It's better off starting anew or maybe buy a corper membership account.

I don't understand the difference. If the account is hacked, it's a scam. If the account has been inherited, this is the same fraud.

How can we trust a relative? Did he take over all the knowledge and skills of the previous owner at the gene level? Will the second owner prove kinship? How? Or maybe he decides to sell it. Again, how to find out the relationship?

Why doesn't he start an account on his own behalf and grow it on his own? Are there any privileges? Is this allowed on the forum?

It all comes down to the fact that the account of a deceased person will qualify for participation in signature companies; otherwise, why not develop your account? It follows from this that there is absolutely no difference between a hacker and a relative.

Benefits work here and there.

There are a dozen debatable reasons for an account to be declared dead, then active.
For example: positive thinking and logic.

• A relative or close friend, can use the account, while the primary owner provides the password, before he dies.

Negative thinking.
• For sale or hacked, but chances are slim.

But in a case like this, if the account is used by his family, the main owner will provide all the data related to the account/exchange/wallet/address signed for security and risk in using, account in the future, if needed, even if the post is not the same as the main owner.

Sold and hacked, if they (the current owners) can't show/verify the signed address, plus a post that is much different from the main owner, most likely the account has been sold and hacked.

I agree more about the neutral tag than the negative for an account that changes hands after being confirmed dead. But there are clear consequences for cases like this if the real person behind the account is not the heir but the hacker or the new user who bought the account. The reputation of such an account can never be trusted again unless the primary owner ^{[before death]} has made it known to the public who will inherit the ownership of the next account.

I haven't thought about having an heir to this account. This is a dilemma that most people will probably feel, but perhaps we should take it as a reason to continue the knowledge of bitcoin in the next generation. They may never be the same, but it is still possible to teach them the correct knowledge of bitcoin and its uses.

If I die and if my girl wants to reactive this account then my ghost will be happy to know it. But you need to understand, my girl will not have same interest as me. The users are brother to me they will become uncle to her. Unless she makes it public they will be confused.

I wonder how would you guys take it once she will confirm her ownership of the account which she will inherit from me? Are you going to address her, niece bitcoingirl.club?

As far as I'm aware, and don't quote me on this as I vaguely remember it, in the past theymos has locked accounts by banning the account which the user was confirmed deceased. Obviously, I don't know what the requirements for that would be, and not even sure if I'm remembering that correctly. I'm pretty sure it has happened in the past though. However, I can't remember who. I just checked some that were pretty public with their declining health though, and seems they weren't banned, so I'm starting to doubt if I'm misremembering it.

Obviously, the user might want to pass their account onto their family, and they're entitled to do that if they wish. However, I imagine most users would rather keep their online presence as their own upon passing.

In the unlikely scenario where a user has already made it clear to either the admins or the community they wish to pass it onto their family if they were ever to pass, I wouldn't treat it as suspicious as long as it could be confirmed. I mean, I suspect it would be treated suspiciously without any proof of that death mind, because as sad as it sounds it would likely be abused by account sellers, which obviously the community isn't supportive of.

Changed hands actually aren't prohibited by the forum. So we can't expect any action from the forum if dead users account become active. If I notice such a case I would leave neutral feedback about changed hands. As long as they do not abuse the forum trust system it's fine for me. But definitely, I would keep an eye to monitor activity. Because we don't know who is behind the account.

Obviously, there's a change of hands the former owner who is confirmed dead left the password and email to the new owner who could be his relatives or friends


if it's one of the relatives I'm ok with it as long as the owner will continue the legacy of the former owner, if the account has a good reputation here he should continue it and add more merits and trust, there's a lot of accounts that change hands in the past and even now it continues to exist as long as they are not scamming and spamming the forum and the account is a relative of the former owner, but it's different if it is bought or hacked, the community frown on that changing of accounts and I will not support this.

If a user dies, his/her properties such as land, houses are inherited and used by the relatives. Then, if it is social media account, any relative that has access to it could use it. When one dies, relatives use the phone and maybe the number. I believe it should be same for bitcointalk, the only difference is the trust rating. If accounts change hands, for the safety of the community, there should be a neutral tag to alert the members of the forum.

If the owner was dead then the account has changed hands, clearly. And people may find this out even if the death was not announced on the forum (e.g. writing style changes, difference in knowledge, habits, preferences...)
If indeed the account is taken over by a member of his family, the forum may just give a neutral tag. In the other cases, I do expect somebody will paint it in red, since the new owner may have been hacking or buying the account then coming with a story to get away with this.

So I would not really count on it that a neutral feedback will be all that the account will get. It really depends on each and every one's judgement...

If relatives continue to use the account of a deceased person, then surely the spirits will not help them with this. That is, having someone else's account is not yet having the brain of that person and the knowledge of the person who died.

If we know for sure that the owner is dead, and this is already a rather complicated statement, there will definitely be a difference in the publication, which will necessarily incur consequences, if not a negative review, then a big warning in the form of a neutral tag.

There have been confirmed cases of deaths here. I can recall up to three cases right now and one of them is from my local board, Becky666. There are members here who also have people who know them outside here in real life.


Am not talking of change of password or anything. I mean they continue using the account without changing anything because they now have access to it. It is not like hacking it in the true sense if it.

With this, that means there's every possible doubt about the account itself either from the real owner's end or from the person that has taken over with the account after his demise, this has to do with the trust system being placed on the account, but our actions in doing that may not be accurate enough because I don't see how such account can verified that it's not hacked or taken over by scammers, it may be the legitimate child or wife of the deceased using it, the real owner might have lied about his death, he might have been rumoured to be dead maybe due to inactiveness of his account, and what if the user was able to sign a message with the account, but i think it now depends on what activities been carried out with the account before and after the said event to also determine the judgement on the account which i think the moderators or admin knows better in this.

I agree that neutral feedback as a warning is a sufficient measure, at least for those who know how to get that information, although perhaps all confirmed deceased members could have a special badge in the form of a black ribbon or something similar that would indicate that the original owner has passed away.

Nowhere in the rules of the forum is forbidden for family members to take control of the BTT accounts of their deceased, so one of the most popular BTT accounts was revived three years after its owner passed away. It is about Hal Finney who passed away in 2014, while his account was last active in early 2017, and two members left neutral feedback after that.

AFAIK, no they are not, i mean a bitcointalk account shouldn't be so important as to be inherited by any other person than the original user, if a user is dead, or decides to abandon their account, that should be the end of it, if any of their family member likes Bitcointalk, they will have to register their own personal account and start their own Bitcointalk journey.

Bitcointalk has a lot to do with trust and reputation, which makes it absurd to be inheritable, imagine an account with a whole lot of positive trust and a good reputation in the hands of someone else who isn't the original user, that person can use the account to scam people. Post quality is another thing, it will be very annoying for a quality posters account to fall into the hands of someone that is not so good at posting, and the posts go from high quality to garbage.

Online is hard to confirm things. Especially confirmation on death. Who will confirm it and how, with what proofs? Who will announce confirmations? Lot of things you can not trust and verify if you don't know the owner of that account in person.

If woke up, password change go together with loan request, scam activities, it should be a negative trust feedback.

Their family can use account from dead member. Hacker can use it and more. Forum does not deactivate accounts from dead members. Only a very rare cases will have termination like Lauda, or locked like satoshi.

Move this to meta or reputation.

Definitely not the owner of the account, it has to be given neutral tag that people should be careful with the user. It can be a hacked account.

If it is the family member of the person that is using it to make it active, people should still be very careful with the account.

I think that if the community is notified if the person's death, a neutral tag will be given to the account. In my experience, when a member of my local board passed on, Becky666, his account was given neutral tags. If that account becomes active again, we know for certain that the person behind the account isn't the rightful owner whether it is a family member, next of kin.. This brings an interesting question. Are bitcointalk account heritable?

This mean the account have been changed hands and everyone should know the person behind that's account no longer the person who already passed away, so it's deserve a red tag to warn other members.

A hacker, scammer, bad person, or even good person that already controlled that account, I don't care. What I know is, I can't trust that's account anymore.

If he want to start his journey in this forum, he should create a new accounts and start from bottom, to see how his contribution and can be trusted or not.

I don't think this forum is just the only way to earn money, you can go work in McDonald and got payed more than joining bounties/signature campaign.

There is something that am thinking and that has to do with accounts whose owners have been confirmed and announced dead in this forum. My question is this, what if that account becomes active again and begins posting? Is it going to terrify anyone thinking we have spirits lurking here or will that lead us to think a hacker or scammer is at work? But that can be any member of the dead forum user's family who eventually found the password to that account and decides to continue with it so they can earn and support themselves financially from it, maybe because the account is already high ranked. What will likely be the reaction of members of the forum to that?