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Topic: Decentralization, freedom and security (Read 243 times)

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February 07, 2022, 01:21:11 AM
#10
you free when you're dead, or you can deploy your digital self (ai) on blockchain then you become number and be part of bitcoin.


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buy bitcoin, hodl bitcoin
March 21, 2021, 01:13:42 PM
#9
you free when you're dead, or you can deploy your digital self (ai) on blockchain then you become number and be part of bitcoin.
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March 20, 2021, 10:35:41 PM
#8
I think that the precautions we repeat as parrots in the crypto community are not enough at a time of mass adaptation of cryptocurrencies. There seems to be a lot more to be done by developers, crypto teams, and cyber and the crypto community to keep ordinary users and our children safe in cyberspace.
The fact that cybercrime, in its abnormal growth, in a short time became, after the USA and China, the third-largest "economy" on the planet is devastating. Also, it clarly indicates that mafia cartels and free-acting cybercriminals are ubiquitous in cyberspace and that most Internet users and members of the crypto community are not even aware of the scale of their actions.

So, the situation is far more serious than it seems at first glance, and my question was initiative and only figurative.

Freedom with responsibility strongly includes the ethics of justice, and that is the point at which the idea of ​​decentralization is currently falling.
Simply this situation in which someone with bad intentions in cyberspace has the opportunity to get away with it with complete impunity and continue freely towards the next victim will never be accepted or tolerated by the majority of the human community. It is totally against basic human ethics and rights.
legendary
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March 20, 2021, 09:03:23 AM
#7
if its on your private key no one will steal it.

if its on someone elses key.. its no longer yours.
you then have to have had a contract or a service agreement (account with terms and conditions) that says you are owed the balance they have in their custody.

then you need to have ensured you knew enough about the other user to slap them if they wrong you.

if you dont none of this.. then lets just call it a learning experience you should never repeat again

just remember.. your key your crypto
                         no key no crypto
                         Do Your Own Research
                         have proof of intent of transaction
                         if you cant slap them.. atleast know them

keep in mind even if you can find the person. they can just say it was a gift/donation/payment. and not a custodian contract.
we live in a innocent till proven guilty. so you need to prove it was your property and was taken/received via deception
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March 17, 2021, 04:32:26 AM
#6
Franky, I absolutely agree with you, and those lessons I've been learned in a hard way for the past 6 years how long I'm in crypto. Also, I would like to remain that freedom with responsibility including ethics of justice.
So, the point of this thread is not to blame people for their mistakes or to learn them how to live their life, but to warn about how cyberspace is a pretty unsafe place today and how bad people can easily hurt other people and avoid punishment for their deeds.
Also, its really unacceptable how companies and teams who are promoting their projects in cyberspace mostly lack the sense of responsibility if somebody is (ab)using their brand to scam other people.

well those that want freedoms. become the normal people at the bottom of the pyramid who without realising it, start promoting that corporations at the top of the pyramid should not be watched/regulated.
which then ends up harming more people at the bottom

in my view corporations should be watched and regulated.. not their customers.. but the corps management team
where the customers(people at bottom) can then have more freedom of choice. and also the legitimate power to KYB (Know Your Business) so that customers can then seek justice against the business that scammed them

most 'freedom fighters' end up getting into trouble and imprisoning themselves more.. whilst the corps they idolise get the freedoms

take NRA . gun hobbiests cry for more gun freedoms. but end up getting arrested for waving a loaded gun in public(yes its actual public threat/danger to other people) but then while the hobby guys are in prison. the NRA gets to advertise that people should buy 20 fully auto guns and wave them at their neighbours 'coz freedom'

smart people need to realise waving a loaded gun around is a way to have your freedom taken from you
NRA only tell people to buy and wave them around. as its a way of free advertising to get more sales.

yes freedom fighters are just trying to let immoral and unethical companies get people into legal trouble just so the corp can profit and be more free..
......
i dont mind people having the freedom to buy guns. but use them wisely.. a gun is not a flag. its a threat to other people. so keep it holstered or in a safe place
but the NRA should be heavily monitored and regulated so that they cant get their customers into trouble for profit.

Ok, I understand your point of view and mostly agree, but lets summarized the whole thing down on one simple question, and this is will be the major question I'm going to spread all around the cyberspace and crypto community. So..

Who takes responsibility for a thief who stole someone's digital goods and escapes without punishment in decentralized cyberspace?
legendary
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March 16, 2021, 07:05:58 AM
#5
Franky, I absolutely agree with you, and those lessons I've been learned in a hard way for the past 6 years how long I'm in crypto. Also, I would like to remain that freedom with responsibility including ethics of justice.
So, the point of this thread is not to blame people for their mistakes or to learn them how to live their life, but to warn about how cyberspace is a pretty unsafe place today and how bad people can easily hurt other people and avoid punishment for their deeds.
Also, its really unacceptable how companies and teams who are promoting their projects in cyberspace mostly lack the sense of responsibility if somebody is (ab)using their brand to scam other people.

well those that want freedoms. become the normal people at the bottom of the pyramid who without realising it, start promoting that corporations at the top of the pyramid should not be watched/regulated.
which then ends up harming more people at the bottom

in my view corporations should be watched and regulated.. not their customers.. but the corps management team
where the customers(people at bottom) can then have more freedom of choice. and also the legitimate power to KYB (Know Your Business) so that customers can then seek justice against the business that scammed them

most 'freedom fighters' end up getting into trouble and imprisoning themselves more.. whilst the corps they idolise get the freedoms

take NRA . gun hobbiests cry for more gun freedoms. but end up getting arrested for waving a loaded gun in public(yes its actual public threat/danger to other people) but then while the hobby guys are in prison. the NRA gets to advertise that people should buy 20 fully auto guns and wave them at their neighbours 'coz freedom'

smart people need to realise waving a loaded gun around is a way to have your freedom taken from you
NRA only tell people to buy and wave them around. as its a way of free advertising to get more sales.

yes freedom fighters are just trying to let immoral and unethical companies get people into legal trouble just so the corp can profit and be more free..
......
i dont mind people having the freedom to buy guns. but use them wisely.. a gun is not a flag. its a threat to other people. so keep it holstered or in a safe place
but the NRA should be heavily monitored and regulated so that they cant get their customers into trouble for profit.
legendary
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Do not die for Putin
March 16, 2021, 04:54:57 AM
#4
You did not crypto to buy Worldcom, Enron, invest with Madoff Wirecard, ..

The fact is that

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March 16, 2021, 12:01:05 AM
#3
there is freedom in decentralisation..
but with freedom comes responsibility

the freedom of self responsibility is a higher burden on you than the captivity of someone taking responsibility for you.
but we all have to grow up and leave the nest at sometime
and leaving the nest can cause harm if you dont learn fast

so.. dont hand money to strangers on the street. hoping you can find them one day and get your funds back
in the digital world. learn who your transacting with. DYOR and only hand funds over if you have enough info about them to slap them with a wet fist/court order if they wrong you.

if you know you cant slap them. then dont expect others to slap them for you. its your money.. it your responsibility.

freedom has consequences

Franky, I absolutely agree with you, and those lessons I've been learned in a hard way for the past 6 years how long I'm in crypto. Also, I would like to remain that freedom with responsibility including ethics of justice.
So, the point of this thread is not to blame people for their mistakes or to learn them how to live their life, but to warn about how cyberspace is a pretty unsafe place today and how bad people can easily hurt other people and avoid punishment for their deeds.
Also, its really unacceptable how companies and teams who are promoting their projects in cyberspace mostly lack the sense of responsibility if somebody is (ab)using their brand to scam other people.
legendary
Activity: 4172
Merit: 4341
March 15, 2021, 07:26:48 AM
#2
there is freedom in decentralisation..
but with freedom comes responsibility

the freedom of self responsibility is a higher burden on you than the captivity of someone taking responsibility for you.
but we all have to grow up and leave the nest at sometime
and leaving the nest can cause harm if you dont learn fast

so.. dont hand money to strangers on the street. hoping you can find them one day and get your funds back
in the digital world. learn who your transacting with. DYOR and only hand funds over if you have enough info about them to slap them with a wet fist/court order if they wrong you.

if you know you cant slap them. then dont expect others to slap them for you. its your money.. it your responsibility.

freedom has consequences
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March 15, 2021, 01:49:56 AM
#1
There is a story of decentralization and freedom in the modern world that was started by cypherpunks and later supported by crypto communities and free-thinking people. It turned out that both targets still did not meet their expectations due to the great uncertainty of the entire cyberspace. We have come to a ridiculous situation where you cannot expect great help from the crypto or cyber community if you are deceived, but from centralized authorities, even if they are private or public. Thus, the whole thing is still failing on one of the basic ethical principles of freedom, and that is the ethics of justice.
So there is no freedom or decentralization without security and justice.
Dreams are dreams, but today, for ordinary users, the Internet looks more like the Wild West in the early days or Eldorado or a massive slaughterhouse than a decent place to work and have fun.
The statistics are devastating.

Cybercrime To Cost The World $10.5 Trillion Annually By 2025
https://cybersecurityventures.com/hackerpocalypse-cybercrime-report-2016/
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