Topic: Decentralized Lobbyism Network (Read 1314 times)

1 vote can be 1 token. Very capitalistic.

Can you give his/her contacts? I am curious about that experience.

Yes, party tokenization. Actually here I just want to gather suggestions.
We have written some white paper, but it is quite declarative and seems to not be popular.

So, here are some ideas:

1. Party is tokenized
2. Tokens are used for voting
3. Party is also a political services exchange:
- Political propaganda
- Tools, people, platforms to run a political campaign
- Fund raising for political campaigns, social activism using cryptocurrencies
- Mass street actions
- Lobbyism using smart contracts and cryptocurrencies
- PR/consulting using our tokens
- Media management, interface between crypto and traditional media for politics
- Lobbyism services purchase

So, it looks more like a political corporation.
Why to call it a party?
Because all political professionals here are powered by crypto, are integrated into cryptocurrencies world and (in general) should be biased toward crypto-friendly laws.
How does that sound?
Anyone interested to contribute to:
- White paper writing
- Web site/logo design
- White paper design
- Name selection
for prospective political party tokens?

"I would support an ICO that was a Political Action Committee dedicated to supporting & encouraging the use of decentralized FinTech and Cryptocurrencies.  "
Something like this.
I have couple ideas here for the discussion.
It can be political party, croporation and lobbysm exchange at once.
For example some votings, or most of the votings can be done in token.
So it is more like a political corporation.

If something interesting is happening in this direction - please share this case now
Also I would say ICO is not so good term for this, I think "party tokenization" would be better.
For sure cryptocurrency will play bigger role as more and more politicians are interested in this area, some will implement this technology into party building process.

I personally know of someone who is trying to organize an ICO to finance a new political party in Europe. I have my doubts that it will become real and successful, but just wanted to let you know that people are already considering this. And someone will do that for sure at some point. As for perhaps supporting it - you really would first like to hear which are their ideas and vision, wouldn't you?

digitalcoins, you're one of the most brilliant and talented people of cryptocommunity. Every independent state would want you on it. I am creating one. And just wonder how DAO you've come out with here can help me and my folks who wants to move at the equator, build there floating cities and organize public transit that goes to space? In what way presicely? (learn more: #BitcoID)

Talking about political party, you need to specify about what country are you talking about.
For sure there are perspectives for blockchain in politics, not only by voting on voting and collecting funds.
Blockchain, cryptocurrency area can help to form self-sufficient elites who will themselves form a fund and will create parties (in different countries) and will possibly come to power some day

I would support an ICO that was a Political Action Committee dedicated to supporting & encouraging the use of decentralized FinTech and Cryptocurrencies. 

A PAC that lobbies the people in power to limit any legal action that restricts free and open trade with regard to Cryptocurrencies. 

But, I am a believer in Objectivism.  I would NOT fund/support your political party; which just sounds like another spin of socialism.



LOL LOL  Exactly.

Hi,

I'm a noob, so my apologies if I'm blasting the whole board in this reply but I would be grateful to hear more thoughts on this topic-- especially from the experienced developers here.

This concept is fascinating, and from the perspective of global capital flows it may almost be inevitable if a DAO-like structure is developed to harvest capital alongside votes (one might argue, economically, the two are interchangeable).

I'm a venture/HF activist investor in the United States and I filed US Provisional Patent App #62-532155 on uspto.gov. It's an effort to identify soft-money capital flows that drive the bidding for assets that are sold (or, as we call it, "elected") in US elections. I'm also building MinutemanCapital.com in parallel to develop a proof-of-concept for the upcoming Ohio elections.

Why Ohio? For those outside the U.S., Ohio has determined the winner in all but two U.S. Presidential elections since 1896. It is a cross-section of America that is uniquely representative of the voting population. It offers the perfect proof-of-concept stage to create an ICO for a political party-- or more exactly, the soft-money capital that controls the bidding for these assets. Please forgive me if that sounds overly cynical, but I watched a lot of friends die on the front lines in Iraq due to the economics in Washington DC so what can I say-- I hold a bit of a grudge.

If this can be structured properly to guarantee the integrity of the asset class, I'd be willing to underwrite substantial sums from my personal holdings to get this up and running. If you are a developer and have any interest in work-for-hire or this topic in general I'd love to talk further. Oh, and please forgive the awkwardness of my first few website posts on building a "Fat Cat Catapult". The first $2,000 worth of lumber for it just arrived at my house, and I can't wait to launch some "Fat Cats" into Lake Erie.

Cheers!


  

The suggested name is Financial Freedom Federation, fff.international - it will be here.

If managed by community and DAO,
Also, an be done in stages.

ICO-stage 1 (pre-pre-ICO)
ICO-stage 2 (pre-ICO)
ICO-stage 3 (ICO)

So, it can be started from small amount of funds, which will be used for a certain cause within detailed time frame and with detailed budgets allocated.
Then, once it s done appropriately and in appropriate way for stage 1, then it can be done for stage 2, stage 3 etc.

1. "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is." So this would look like a scam.
2. Politicians are well known scammers.

Conclusion: I wouldn't buy into it.

Burning coins for voting. Very nice idea. It can help making direct democracy mixed with capitalism.

I am thinking about writing white paper for pan-European (or maybe even global) political party, which will be in favour of cryptocurrencies, IT, biotechnologies.
Any suggestions about that?

1. Visa free movement betweeen European Countries. Further, free movement between any countries at all.
2. Equality through equal opportunities and active involvement of society into the economics and internet.
For example, immigration questions can be solved by using projects like HumanIQ. This will bring closer incomes, or at least purchase power in different countries.
Massive immigration to Europe and fatigue in developing and non-developed countries are consequence of financial inequality.

Special Drawing Rights represent now traditional global currency:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_drawing_rights
which is definitely centralized.

As you can see now 5 currencies are included in SDR from these countries/superstates: USA, European Union, China, Japan and United Kingdom. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_drawing_rights
This supports inequality by giving more power to countries, which currencies are part of SDR.
However, cryptocurrencies are game-changers, because can be issued in any country.

3. Support of education, especially natural and technical sciences.
4. Widespread of technologies, IT, biomedicine. Support of advocacy for these technologies.
5. Efficient mechanisms of state finance management, through direct involvement of AI, automatization, smart-contracts.
6. Global basic income, which will release people from duties, which they don t like and will allow them to concentrate on what they actually like.
7. Removal of all the armies, reduction of military budgets and conversion them into space and exploration and other research budgets

What else?
Do you have any suggestions?

Yes, I have to agree about this.
I am thinking about which form is the best for this. It can be non commercial organization, commercial, or wtf, why do we need all those oldies...it can be just DAO, which will operate underl different legal names or without them.
Also I think such organization can provide legal, lobbying and political services to the community. It can help organizing different mass events, organize political parties, support them, train lawyers and attorneys working with crypto currencies, provide education in this field etc. etc.
It can support those governments, who is ready to support crypto currencies and financial freedom.

I can't be sure and I'm not, but I would support them just to give them a chance. I think it's worth a try.
I'm sure having a party would raise awareness because, like I said, all major news outlets have their crews in the parliament and they wouldn't miss something new like a crypto party. Even if their coverage would be biased, people would at least hear the name and feel the need to know more about it. People are curious by nature and have a natural need to learn and discover. 
Trump is a bad comparison, because he was already very well known before the start of his political campaign. Most people don't know what Bitcoin is and never even heard the name. I've asked some of my friends and family last year and nobody knew Bitcoin!

How can you be sure? But if this party will make such decisions which will serve as publicity? Policy does not tolerate populism and PR. Publicity is good publicity in the media. You see the consequences of the election of PR on the example of Trump.

Pseudoanonymity is a double edged sword. There's nothing really stopping anyone creating tonnes of names/addresses and donating under that.

While I would support something like this, the issue you raised is actually one of the problems. In the current political donation scheme, donors are clearly identified most of the time, unless the donations are really tiny (even then, the names are recorded, it's just easier to put a random name on a 5 dollar political donation, rather than a 20k one). This would actually be a decent use case for a smart contract like Slock.it would have been; you could vote by holding coins. This raises yet another problem. Is it OK to allow the biggest donor to have the most influence over.the voting process? And what if a rival party corners the market on the coin, to influence votes?

I would support it just to see how they do and give them a chance to accomplish something. Having a vote in the parliament would work wonders for crypto.
It would work as free advertising as all tv and radio stations are interested in politics and would surely raise awareness among people.

Well, from one side indeed. People could vote using their money. Officially. So it s not a socialism or communism exactly. But such coins can be used to reward people, who will support such a party. This is just approximate suggested agenda. Is there a political portrait of crypto community members? Maybe it s close to Pirate Party?

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I agree with you. I don't trust any of the politicians and not give them their money. Another thing is that if someone offers the idea of how to earn enough money part of which will go to Finance his campaign I would have thought.

There are many altcoins that uses the name of the running candidate for presidency so they will gain popularity and will earn big. During their ICO's they will introduce themselves as a coin in support of the running candidate for presidency and that a percentage of the earnings from that coin will help and support the fundings of the candidate. The famous alternative coins that uses president names were Trump coins, Stalin coin, Putin coins and lastly the latest coin the LEPEN coin.

I doubt anyone will have influence under this system except the one who has access to the money. All donations will be anonymous so even when the party comes into power, there is no way to reward the biggest donors an Politics is all about having influence through donations.

It sounds like another call to build communism. It's like a religion. Promise the best,but can not do anything. I certainly support this party, but I see no plan of action for the implementation of this program.

You can't create political party on blockchain. You could only use blockchain to allow members of a party to vote on issues and/or for funding.


No. Probably the only common denominator of 'blockchain community' is the desire that the governments don't interfere/restrict usage of cryptocurrencies. Creating global(?) political party just for that is massive overkill. You could get much better effect at cheaper cost just by hiring a lobbyists.


you definitely should add:

"- portrait of Marx in every room of every public building" and you're good to go.

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I have to ask, what did you mean by this: "- Discussion and removal of all sharp question" ?

Maybe people could burn coins to vote on things. The technology exists, but direct democracy isn't always the best thing

It would sound too much like a scam.

Would you support it?
How would you like it to look like?

Tokens can be used to purchase:
- Political propaganda
- Tools, people, platforms to run a political campaign
- Fund raising for political campaigns, social activism using cryptocurrencies
- Mass street actions
- Lobbyism using smart contracts and cryptocurrencies
- PR/consulting using our tokens
- Media management, interface between crypto and traditional media for politics
- Lobbyism services purchase

So, it looks more like a political corporation.
Why to call it a party?
Because all political professionals here are powered by crypto, are integrated into cryptocurrencies world and (in general) should be biased toward crypto-friendly laws.
How does that sound?
Anyone interested to contribute to:
- White paper writing
- Web site/logo design
- White paper design
- Name selection
for prospective political party tokens?