Deckbound: collectible card games based on bitcoin

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Quote from: nutildah on June 09, 2023, 03:58:43 AM

Quote from: Stelisto on June 05, 2023, 01:32:32 PM

Hi,
I checked the address I used in deckbound, I can't remember which transaction id because I had more than 500, and many 1 BTC tx.
If you know which txid we use, I can sell you the private key for the same amount and transfer it yourself.
Address: "19Y62uzrR7E3TTdidBrWhCymPPiMSedJDk"
The volume on this address is more than 300 BTC, if you want it, let me know.

Thanks for getting back to me. I did some research on the project and it doesn't appear to show any signs of life, and I'm unfamiliar with the intricacies of how it works. But I did forward your offer to some people who might be interested, will send you a PM if I hear back from them.

Quote from: Kakmakr on June 09, 2023, 01:28:56 AM

I have seen a similar type of game, called : Augmentors that was sponsored by one of the investors in the series - Shark Tank on TV. The site is augmentorsgame.com and it is still active after all of these years, but I do not know if it is successful or not. (founded in 2016)

This is actually right up my alley... I found that peeps are currently buying the game's main Counterparty token for anywhere between $0.64 and $13,292. Cheesy

https://xchain.io/asset/DATABITS

The supply is way too high to be very interesting to me personally.

Stuff like this is considered to be a "historical collectible" by now even though its less than 7 years old. It was at the forefront of blockchain gaming, even if it never fully materialized (back then, appears to be on Solana now). The fact that its a Counterparty token makes it all the more easy to collect and trade, unlike Deckbound, however unfortunately.

I was excited about deckbound, I was a newbie game programmer at that time.
Now I'm building my own game on solana, maybe I will call it deckbound, remembering the good days of bitcoin.

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Randomly surfing boards for old Bitcoin/blockchain-based games and saw this, now realising among the things I cleared out a couple of spring cleanings ago was my old Counterparty wallet -- also remembering that I had some tokens on there (not for deckbound but other dead projects).

Does anyone know of a game people actually still play (or can be played)? Now I'm trying to see if I did in fact have a copy of info of old wallets to see if any of these things have woken up. Can't even remember names is the thing.

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Quote from: Stelisto on June 05, 2023, 01:32:32 PM

Hi,
I checked the address I used in deckbound, I can't remember which transaction id because I had more than 500, and many 1 BTC tx.
If you know which txid we use, I can sell you the private key for the same amount and transfer it yourself.
Address: "19Y62uzrR7E3TTdidBrWhCymPPiMSedJDk"
The volume on this address is more than 300 BTC, if you want it, let me know.

Thanks for getting back to me. I did some research on the project and it doesn't appear to show any signs of life, and I'm unfamiliar with the intricacies of how it works. But I did forward your offer to some people who might be interested, will send you a PM if I hear back from them.

Quote from: Kakmakr on June 09, 2023, 01:28:56 AM

I have seen a similar type of game, called : Augmentors that was sponsored by one of the investors in the series - Shark Tank on TV. The site is augmentorsgame.com and it is still active after all of these years, but I do not know if it is successful or not. (founded in 2016)

This is actually right up my alley... I found that peeps are currently buying the game's main Counterparty token for anywhere between $0.64 and $13,292. Cheesy

https://xchain.io/asset/DATABITS

The supply is way too high to be very interesting to me personally.

Stuff like this is considered to be a "historical collectible" by now even though its less than 7 years old. It was at the forefront of blockchain gaming, even if it never fully materialized (back then, appears to be on Solana now). The fact that its a Counterparty token makes it all the more easy to collect and trade, unlike Deckbound, however unfortunately.

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I have seen a similar type of game, called : Augmentors that was sponsored by one of the investors in the series - Shark Tank on TV. The site is augmentorsgame.com and it is still active after all of these years, but I do not know if it is successful or not. (founded in 2016)

I did not buy any of the tokens back in the day, because there were many of these "token" based projects doing the rounds and I thought it would just be one of those fly-by-night projects.

Good luck with your project... I will check in to see how you progress. Wink

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Quote from: nutildah on May 06, 2023, 11:22:54 AM

Quote from: Stelisto on April 23, 2016, 04:38:08 AM

yes

i have 1.00 BTC in genesis block 2 , if any one need it send a pm , early buyers get 250% at game launch

Any chance you still have access to your Deckbound cards? I notice the site is down but came across an article that said this:

"Deckbound could completely shut down and users would still own the cards they had paid for."

https://observer.com/2015/10/deckbound-bitbind-bitcoin-block-chain/

Would be willing to pay BTC for them granted you still have them and they are probably transferrable. Thanks!

Hi,
I checked the address I used in deckbound, I can't remember which transaction id because I had more than 500, and many 1 BTC tx.
If you know which txid we use, I can sell you the private key for the same amount and transfer it yourself.
Address: "19Y62uzrR7E3TTdidBrWhCymPPiMSedJDk"
The volume on this address is more than 300 BTC, if you want it, let me know.

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Quote from: Stelisto on April 23, 2016, 04:38:08 AM

yes

i have 1.00 BTC in genesis block 2 , if any one need it send a pm , early buyers get 250% at game launch

Any chance you still have access to your Deckbound cards? I notice the site is down but came across an article that said this:

"Deckbound could completely shut down and users would still own the cards they had paid for."

https://observer.com/2015/10/deckbound-bitbind-bitcoin-block-chain/

Would be willing to pay BTC for them granted you still have them and they are provably transferrable. Thanks!

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Hello all how I can buy Shares of deckbound or coins is there any? Thank you

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i have 1.00 BTC in genesis block 2 , if any one need it send a pm , early buyers get 250% at game launch

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is this thing still going?

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Quote from: SISAR on November 17, 2015, 03:21:11 PM

This whole deal is puzzling me for many months now so I decided to finaly ask for some help. I don't find Deckbound website informative enough especially in end-user topics, there is a ton of info written but none of it really helps someone who just want to join for fun. For example, at https://www.deckbound.com/earlyaccess I can buy cards but upon clicking "buy now" button I've been redirected to Coinbase, what is not explained at all is if I'm supposed to send BTC from address I own or I can send BTC from anywhere, like exchanges. What happens after I send BTC to Coinbase address? And then what exactly I'm buying because "3-pack, 1-hero pre purchase" means absolutely nothing to me? Why would I need more then 1 hero? How many cards are in a card pack? Am I getting cards from block 1 or 2?

Also, http://index.deckbound.com/explorer does not work with Firefox.

Still looking for answers, anyone?

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Can you explain what happens to initial investors. If they don't want to buy cards do you return in USD or Bitcoin ?

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I like the whole concept of a digital collectible card game and it is a excellent idea to track it on the Blockchain. The free to play option is a bonus, and for the real enthusiast you could buy special cards. The key to the success of this project are going to be the quality of the graphics being done.

The more impressive the graphics, the more desirable the cards. Looking forward to see the final project. ^hmmm^

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This whole deal is puzzling me for many months now so I decided to finaly ask for some help. I don't find Deckbound website informative enough especially in end-user topics, there is a ton of info written but none of it really helps someone who just want to join for fun. For example, at https://www.deckbound.com/earlyaccess I can buy cards but upon clicking "buy now" button I've been redirected to Coinbase, what is not explained at all is if I'm supposed to send BTC from address I own or I can send BTC from anywhere, like exchanges. What happens after I send BTC to Coinbase address? And then what exactly I'm buying because "3-pack, 1-hero pre purchase" means absolutely nothing to me? Why would I need more then 1 hero? How many cards are in a card pack? Am I getting cards from block 1 or 2?

Also, http://index.deckbound.com/explorer does not work with Firefox.

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Quote from: worldinacoin on August 09, 2015, 08:18:02 AM

Sorry for replying to such an old thread, just hoping to know what is the status of the games?

Hi -- Deckbound Heroes will be launching in invite-only alpha end of October (if you've bought cards via early access or redeemed an invite code you'll get access to this) and Deckbound Quest is being previewed at events in the coming months.

There'll be some more updates going out in the coming week... including more info on Deckbound Quest, but here's a preview of what we've been up to -- https://www.flickr.com/photos/deckbound -- taken from Deckbound Heroes' first major public outing at Gamescom a couple of weeks ago.

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Sorry for replying to such an old thread, just hoping to know what is the status of the games?

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First time checking this out...though I don't must like Card games this game seems to be very interesting in its own right. I might as well try it out as soon as I can. And I hope this will also allow for more bitcoin adoption.

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Excellent news ! I don't get why this isn't getting more attention. Online games with bitcoin integration might drive adoption big time !

Quote from: garethjenkins on February 25, 2015, 10:13:11 AM

Hey -- we just posted some important news to the newsletter, I've copied the newsletter content & press release below... as well as the first screenshots from Deckbound Heroes Click through to see them bigger at https://www.deckbound.com/heroes

Two bits of exciting news: we've secured an investment from Aaron L. Kaplan of Gusrae Kaplan Nusbaum PLLC and we can show you the first screenshots from Deckbound Heroes!

I met Aaron in Boston at the crypto legal workshop in January, where we worked together on defining and discussing applicable issues on a variety of related crypto/token/product areas. Aaron will be joining our board of directors, and Gusrae Kaplan will be representing EVA Plexus as US counsel. I've copied the full press release below.

Screenshots! These are from the Deckbound Heroes preview. They're not final art, but they're close enough to be representative of the art and UI style that'll be used in Heroes. We've a tentative launch date of April for the Alpha.

We're doing some limited demos of the Deckbound Heroes preview starting at GDC next week. If you're in SF for GDC let me know and we'll arrange a demo. Otherwise watch this space (and the Deckbound Heroes page) for upcoming video previews.

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EVA Plexus Limited -- February 24th 2015:

We are pleased to announce that Aaron L. Kaplan of Gusrae Kaplan Nusbaum PLLC has made an investment in EVA Plexus Limited. The investment will help further the development of the Deckbound technologies and games, as well as the supporting bitbind.io platform.

EVA Plexus is also delighted to welcome Aaron to its board of directors. In addition, Gusrae Kaplan has been appointed as our United States counsel to represent the business in this key market, and help the company navigate the U.S. regulatory and legal landscape.

EVA Plexus Limited is an innovative new startup based in the Isle of Man. It is building the Deckbound suite of technologies and games, as well as the supporting bitbind.io platform. The Deckbound systems allow for the creation of digital collectible trading cards that are directly owned by players. Deckbound also solves the problem of guaranteed unique and provable card distribution by leveraging the cryptographic properties of the blockchain. In addition, it uses these properties to provide for the procedural generation of card abilities, art and other attributes. Owners of Deckbound cards can play those cards in any supporting game, the first of which will be Deckbound Heroes, launching in 2015. The bitbind.io platform allows digital assets to be attached to the Bitcoin blockchain using a namespace-based hierarchical tagging mechanism.

Aaron L. Kaplan is an associate at Gusrae Kaplan Nusbaum PLLC, a Wall Street based securities law firm. Aaron concentrates his practice in the areas of virtual currency regulation and capital formation.

EVA Plexus is working up toward the launch of first Deckbound game, Deckbound Heroes. More information about that and the purchase of the Genesis Blocks used for the creation of cards in Deckbound games can be found at https://www.deckbound.com.

In response to the news, Brian Donegan, Head of Operations for e-Business with the Isle of Man Government’s Department of Economic Development said:

"We are very pleased that Gareth from EVA Plexus has secured this investment from Kaplan and decided to relocate to the Isle of Man, a nation which is fast becoming a 'digital currency friendly zone'. We wish him every success with his plans and welcome EVA Plexus to our Island’s growing cluster of e-Business, which is the Isle of Man’s fastest growing sector and which represents around 20% of our economy.

EVA Plexus is one of a number of digital currency businesses that have established themselves in the Isle of Man and the technology they are building to support the Deckbound digital collectible trading card games is one of many such initiatives looking to exploit not only the power of bitcoin, but the decentralised nature of the blockchain itself."

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Hey -- we just posted some important news to the newsletter, I've copied the newsletter content & press release below... as well as the first screenshots from Deckbound Heroes Click through to see them bigger at https://www.deckbound.com/heroes

Two bits of exciting news: we've secured an investment from Aaron L. Kaplan of Gusrae Kaplan Nusbaum PLLC and we can show you the first screenshots from Deckbound Heroes!

I met Aaron in Boston at the crypto legal workshop in January, where we worked together on defining and discussing applicable issues on a variety of related crypto/token/product areas. Aaron will be joining our board of directors, and Gusrae Kaplan will be representing EVA Plexus as US counsel. I've copied the full press release below.

Screenshots! These are from the Deckbound Heroes preview. They're not final art, but they're close enough to be representative of the art and UI style that'll be used in Heroes. We've a tentative launch date of April for the Alpha.

We're doing some limited demos of the Deckbound Heroes preview starting at GDC next week. If you're in SF for GDC let me know and we'll arrange a demo. Otherwise watch this space (and the Deckbound Heroes page) for upcoming video previews.

https://www.deckbound.com/extimg/deckbound-heroes-preview-river-550.jpg https://www.deckbound.com/extimg/deckbound-heroes-preview-jungle-550.jpg

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EVA Plexus Limited -- February 24th 2015:

We are pleased to announce that Aaron L. Kaplan of Gusrae Kaplan Nusbaum PLLC has made an investment in EVA Plexus Limited. The investment will help further the development of the Deckbound technologies and games, as well as the supporting bitbind.io platform.

EVA Plexus is also delighted to welcome Aaron to its board of directors. In addition, Gusrae Kaplan has been appointed as our United States counsel to represent the business in this key market, and help the company navigate the U.S. regulatory and legal landscape.

EVA Plexus Limited is an innovative new startup based in the Isle of Man. It is building the Deckbound suite of technologies and games, as well as the supporting bitbind.io platform. The Deckbound systems allow for the creation of digital collectible trading cards that are directly owned by players. Deckbound also solves the problem of guaranteed unique and provable card distribution by leveraging the cryptographic properties of the blockchain. In addition, it uses these properties to provide for the procedural generation of card abilities, art and other attributes. Owners of Deckbound cards can play those cards in any supporting game, the first of which will be Deckbound Heroes, launching in 2015. The bitbind.io platform allows digital assets to be attached to the Bitcoin blockchain using a namespace-based hierarchical tagging mechanism.

Aaron L. Kaplan is an associate at Gusrae Kaplan Nusbaum PLLC, a Wall Street based securities law firm. Aaron concentrates his practice in the areas of virtual currency regulation and capital formation.

EVA Plexus is working up toward the launch of first Deckbound game, Deckbound Heroes. More information about that and the purchase of the Genesis Blocks used for the creation of cards in Deckbound games can be found at https://www.deckbound.com.

In response to the news, Brian Donegan, Head of Operations for e-Business with the Isle of Man Government’s Department of Economic Development said:

"We are very pleased that Gareth from EVA Plexus has secured this investment from Kaplan and decided to relocate to the Isle of Man, a nation which is fast becoming a 'digital currency friendly zone'. We wish him every success with his plans and welcome EVA Plexus to our Island’s growing cluster of e-Business, which is the Isle of Man’s fastest growing sector and which represents around 20% of our economy.

EVA Plexus is one of a number of digital currency businesses that have established themselves in the Isle of Man and the technology they are building to support the Deckbound digital collectible trading card games is one of many such initiatives looking to exploit not only the power of bitcoin, but the decentralised nature of the blockchain itself."

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Hey. I just posted some information to the email newsletter and wanted to repeat here for anyone following just this thread...

You can get 30% more tokens in Block 1 & 2

We've been working on the details for the issue of Genesis Tokens to Genesis Block Holders.

https://www.deckbound.com/extimg/gbh-token-card.png

Genesis Tokens are used to create & incept Deckbound cards. Buying Genesis Blocks will result in you being issued a number of tokens proportional to the size of your purchase and the size of the block. The Deckbound system will automatically manage the use and sale of these tokens into card packs across the lifetime cost curve of a Genesis Block's cards. You will also be able to do that manually.

We've been working on getting the legal and technical specifics right for this token issue. I was at MIT a few weeks ago for the legal/technical workshops -- see http://crypto.sabir.cc/?page_id=147 -- on various crypto/legal issues, including the issue of product tokens. This was a fantastic event that has allowed us to accelerate what we're doing with Genesis Tokens.

We'll be simplifying some of the block size and card issue details, including specifically the target "block size". This is currently at 130% of the BTC size of the block. To clarify how this works, we're going to make the block size and the block target the same thing… but modify the mechanics of how card prices increase such that the demand curve for higher priced cards kicks in sooner.

Block 1 & 2 purchases get 30% extra tokens

As a thank you to early purchasers in Blocks 1 & 2, and to avoid any confusion, we're going to convert Block 1 & 2 ownership at 130%…. giving you 1.3x the tokens you paid for.

This also applies for any additional purchases in Blocks 1 & 2, until Block 2 has sold out. If you'd like to take advantage of this while there's still some of Block 2 left, you can credit your reserved funding address or use the links at https://www.deckbound.com/genesis-block-purchase

Genesis Block sales fund the ongoing development of Deckbound and your support is very much appreciated.

G.

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This can kill some of my little free time. I should try it

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Quote from: Gumbork on January 10, 2015, 10:39:44 AM

how many blocks will their be for sale?

Hi Gumbork. Ultimately the number of blocks are dependent upon the number of cards bought by players. Given the size of Block 2, this could be -- and this is an estimate -- between 500k and 2m cards. Once those cards have been sold, it becomes more expensive for players to buy cards from that block and we will offer cards for sale from the next block at the regular price.

Having fixed blocks (instead of an endless supply from one infinite block) allows for an ongoing iteration of new card properties and abilities. A lot of CCGs do this -- Magic, as an example, issues 2-3 core "sets" per year. I expect that we'd be looking to adjust the size of blocks to the ongoing demand for cards. As the player base increases the blocks get larger to anticipate demand.

For the first few blocks we've intentionally kept the size small (2m cards isn't very many when you consider that average players may have 250 or more cards in their collection). Because of this, we're being careful to only release block sales as and when we're ready (especially as we've not launched any games yet). At launch of the block system we announced blocks 1 and 2. Block 1 is fully sold and block 2 is over 70% sold now, but as it currently stands we haven't sized Block 3. It's likely that there'll be a gap between blocks 2 and 3.

G.

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how many blocks will their be for sale?

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Hey -- just launched the first version of the Deckbound Explorer... so figured I'd include some details here for those following along.

The explorer is a visual browser that you can use to look at Deckbound cards -- a bit like blockchain.info or insight... but for Deckbound cards, and in 3D.

https://www.deckbound.com/img/ci-explorer-full.png

It's in a very early stage, but you can already use it to look at test cards and live transactions pulled from the Bitcoin network (Deckbound cards are all based on Bitcoin transactions, so we can simulate cards by looking at live transactions on the Bitcoin network).

There's a intro video explaining all this at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_5GhGhI-k

https://www.deckbound.com/extimg/bct-video-preview.png

If you just want to play around with it, point your WebGL-compatible browser at http://index.deckbound.com/explorer... it works well with any recent GPU and the recent versions of Chrome & Firefox. Should also be okay in Safari and IE as well.

To make all this work we did a bunch of work on procedural generation and determinism using Bitcoin transactions (and Deckbound card IDs)... you can read more about that at https://www.deckbound.com/card-inception.

This also marks the first public release of the Deckbound API -- you can get the raw information about Deckbound cards and build your own explorer should you want to. Find out more at http://index.deckbound.com/

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Quote from: garethjenkins on December 11, 2014, 01:33:41 PM

Hey Prophetx,

Quote from: prophetx on December 10, 2014, 06:22:11 PM

how many blocks will there be and what is the projected maximum supply?

Blocks will continue to be created in proportion to card demand, and cards will be issued in proportion to block size. As the price of cards from a specific block increases once a block reaches its target size, there is effectively a target card distribution for each block -- which itself varies based on player demand for cards. This is detailed at https://www.deckbound.com/genesis-block with some examples.

Quote from: prophetx on December 10, 2014, 06:30:19 PM

also once i buy some of this can i transfer them to someone else?

At the moment, you can do this via a private sale for blocks 1 and 2. But you would need to arrange sale and transfer of the controlling email address or private key used to make the direct purchase.

Having said that, we're working on the token issue to Genesis Block purchasers... which is ultimately used in card creation. This will likely be the default for Block 3 and beyond (i.e. tokens are issued at the time of sale) and depending on finalising some details, may also apply to Block 1 & 2 purchases.

G.

to be honest this is a little too complicated to understand

also the risk versus reward is not so good from what i think i understood

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Hey Prophetx,

Quote from: prophetx on December 10, 2014, 06:22:11 PM

how many blocks will there be and what is the projected maximum supply?

Blocks will continue to be created in proportion to card demand, and cards will be issued in proportion to block size. As the price of cards from a specific block increases once a block reaches its target size, there is effectively a target card distribution for each block -- which itself varies based on player demand for cards. This is detailed at https://www.deckbound.com/genesis-block with some examples.

Quote from: prophetx on December 10, 2014, 06:30:19 PM

also once i buy some of this can i transfer them to someone else?

At the moment, you can do this via a private sale for blocks 1 and 2. But you would need to arrange sale and transfer of the controlling email address or private key used to make the direct purchase.

Having said that, we're working on the token issue to Genesis Block purchasers... which is ultimately used in card creation. This will likely be the default for Block 3 and beyond (i.e. tokens are issued at the time of sale) and depending on finalising some details, may also apply to Block 1 & 2 purchases.

G.

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also once i buy some of this can i transfer them to someone else?

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how many blocks will there be and what is the projected maximum supply?

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We just put up a intro/overview for Deckbound at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_-mxgUNiOM

G.

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Deckbound mentioned: http://www.coinssource.com/a-growing-trend-games-and-digital-currencies/

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Quote from: snailbrain on October 03, 2014, 07:30:27 AM

edit: cards/names can be traded safely in namecoin (or fork) -- https://forum.namecoin.info/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1701

Thanks -- have been considering options for card vocabulary (i.e. mapping of "names" to incepted identity IDs) and this could be an approach.

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I was looking for someone to make a card game with the blockchain. I can't wait to try this out.

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Very innovative, I think this type of development is where we will see bitcoin start to grow. I think the days of mining, deep web, and so forth are going away faster and faster. While this type of game isn't for me, I think it will be big in a minecraft sort of way.

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good idea - in fact we have been thinking about this for some time..

we were/are contemplating whether the game should take place entirely in the chain and have coins as well (the coins/cards are the same)

or we would use namecoin for the cards and then play externally on sites as suggested

edit: cards/names can be traded safely in namecoin (or fork) -- https://forum.namecoin.info/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1701

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Cool idea indeed ! Will follow

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Cool idea Grin

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Quote from: subSTRATA on September 25, 2014, 07:20:14 AM

Does game rellies on some website or it could be played with standalone local software, without ever connecting to anything but Bitcoin blockchain (centralized vs decentralized)?

Hi. The current games (Heroes & Land Grab) do rely on connecting to a web service, and are played in a browser. The underpinning card architecture is all part of the data we write to the bitbind.io API, which will eventually have it's own instance-able node, so theoretically you could run it offline.

The types of games we're making are inherently multiplayer (though AI play is supported from the outset with all of them) so we don't see offline play as something that's critical. Having said that we're also keen to not introduce unnecessary dependencies, so, for example, unless you're creating new cards there's no need to run from a live bitcoin node (though you do require a node and an instance of the bitbind.io API to retrieve the card data).

G.

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:^)

Does game rellies on some website or it could be played with standalone local software, without ever connecting to anything but Bitcoin blockchain (centralized vs decentralized)?

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Quote from: kronicblazer on September 14, 2014, 07:11:52 AM

Do you have an ETA of when the first game will become available to play? How long do we have left for early access?

Hey -- you've got a while left yet for early access. Basic outline of releases for Heroes (the first released game) is as follows:

1. Test Alphas (these will use a fixed set of test cards) -- coming in the next few weeks

2. Alpha releases (these will use actual cards, but there'll be room for change in incepted abilities and card attributes -- i.e. the inception algorithms may change a lot in this period, so any redeemed or purchased cards will change) -- I expect this will be around Oct/Nov time, but that's very much TBC until we get through (1)

3. Beta releases (this is primarily a systems release, not a game one -- i.e. making sure card purchase and inception, account management, player levelling etc is properly functioning)

4. General (and ongoing) releases -- the games will all be updated on an ongoing basis, but at this point the game is considered "final", and the releases are more like patches and feature releases than the phases above

Insofar as early access (and more specifically heavily discounted card packs and guaranteed access to other pro and test features) is concerned, this will be available until right up until the start of phase 4. At the very earliest, I expect that this would be Jan/Feb, but i'll obviously keep this thread and the website up to date with more information as and when we have it.

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Not familiar with these kind of card games, bit I'm intrigued, gona look in to it.

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Do you have an ETA of when the first game will become available to play? How long do we have left for early access?

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Quote from: Emerger on August 19, 2014, 07:01:57 PM

Quote from: Mabsark on August 19, 2014, 10:35:12 AM

Games like this don't rely as much on skill as they do on wealth and luck of the draw. Do you honestly believe that a free player could compete with an Ultra bundle player? You could easily make it fair though by restricting the types of cards allowed so that players are evenly matched. For example, if an ultra bundle player was going up against a free player, the ultra bundle player's cards would be restricted to the same type of cards the free player has - Nomad cards only.

As someone who has played a lot of these games in the past I feel there is a *lot* of skill required to play well. Sure, it is true that an investment in the product can give you the upper starting hand but it is no substitute for the knowledge of game play and rules that can only come through lots of practice and a good understanding. Nevertheless, your suggestion for rules that help players be more 'evenly matched' is great, and I am sure that different rules covering this could become available so that players will know what limitations they are playing by before they enter a match (it could even be cryptographically verified that nobody was cheating!). On one hand, players could knowingly enter an 'open' game where all cards were permissible, and on the other hand players could enter games where only certain cards and quantities of them were allowed...

Totally agreed on both points here -- matching options are important, but the core feature of any quality CCG has to viable play with asymmetrical decks and collections. I'm not avoiding that players will need to buy cards to engage fully in the game, but the Nomad system allows new players a way to experiment before making a purchase. It's also a useful way of buying specific cards (you can buy specific Nomad cards directly or buy card packs).

Specifically on the match-making thing, we will be allow for custom matchmaking options, and one of those will be "play against Nomad decks only". There will also be AI opponents to specifically cater for players who have a limited collection or deck. Eventually the matchmaking and related systems will be opened up via a public API so the community can construct other systems as desired.

Quote from: Emerger on August 19, 2014, 07:01:57 PM

Also, I envision that this system whereby cards are considered unique and linked to a real Bitcoin asset can give rise to situations where cards can be 'escrowed' and won in games, providing the possibility to play for 'ante' (http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Ante). This would provide avenues for skilled players to increase the quality of their card decks without being forced to ever make a large investment - by winning repeatedly against less skilled players. Winning cards by playing against opponents who are willing to play for keeps was always something that appealed to me when I played, allowing me to develop my collection purely by skill against tougher opponents (and also not to mention the skill in trading the cards as well!).

Yea, I've thought about this a lot. Not specifically announcing anything at this stage, but intentionally giving ourselves plenty of options at the technical and commercial level. Of course because the cards are just tracking Bitcoin transactions, this could be handled outside of Deckbound. But I expect we'll get to constructing and organising a variety of tournament systems once the games and cards setups are stable.

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I am registered and I posted on the forum Grin

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Quote from: Mabsark on August 19, 2014, 10:35:12 AM

Quote from: garethjenkins on August 14, 2014, 05:29:12 PM

I'm a passionate believer in the value of skilled play, and want to offer something that allows gamers and the gaming community a way of building meaningful, persistent collections of digital assets by using Bitcoin as a platform.

Games like this don't rely as much on skill as they do on wealth and luck of the draw. Do you honestly believe that a free player could compete with an Ultra bundle player? You could easily make it fair though by restricting the types of cards allowed so that players are evenly matched. For example, if an ultra bundle player was going up against a free player, the ultra bundle player's cards would be restricted to the same type of cards the free player has - Nomad cards only.

As someone who has played a lot of these games in the past I feel there is a *lot* of skill required to play well. Sure, it is true that an investment in the product can give you the upper starting hand but it is no substitute for the knowledge of game play and rules that can only come through lots of practice and a good understanding. Nevertheless, your suggestion for rules that help players be more 'evenly matched' is great, and I am sure that different rules covering this could become available so that players will know what limitations they are playing by before they enter a match (it could even be cryptographically verified that nobody was cheating!). On one hand, players could knowingly enter an 'open' game where all cards were permissible, and on the other hand players could enter games where only certain cards and quantities of them were allowed...

Also, I envision that this system whereby cards are considered unique and linked to a real Bitcoin asset can give rise to situations where cards can be 'escrowed' and won in games, providing the possibility to play for 'ante' (http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Ante). This would provide avenues for skilled players to increase the quality of their card decks without being forced to ever make a large investment - by winning repeatedly against less skilled players. Winning cards by playing against opponents who are willing to play for keeps was always something that appealed to me when I played, allowing me to develop my collection purely by skill against tougher opponents (and also not to mention the skill in trading the cards as well!).

I am sure the Deckbound dev would have much more to say on this topic. Just some thoughts. Of course, if one does not like this style of collectible trading-card game then they are free to play more skill-based game such as connect4 or chess

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Quote from: garethjenkins on August 14, 2014, 05:29:12 PM

I'm a passionate believer in the value of skilled play, and want to offer something that allows gamers and the gaming community a way of building meaningful, persistent collections of digital assets by using Bitcoin as a platform.

Games like this don't rely as much on skill as they do on wealth and luck of the draw. Do you honestly believe that a free player could compete with an Ultra bundle player? You could easily make it fair though by restricting the types of cards allowed so that players are evenly matched. For example, if an ultra bundle player was going up against a free player, the ultra bundle player's cards would be restricted to the same type of cards the free player has - Nomad cards only.

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Very interesting idea, you seem to have thought out the technology aspects very well! I'm eager to see how the games will progress, especially with some (eventual) fancy graphics and artwork. All the best with the alpha tests and development.

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Wow. This is an amazing idea. The more I think about it, the more I like it.

I'll definitely try to get in the alpha tests. This is very interesting Cheesy

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@gordoh -- thanks, pretty interested myself... obviously Wink

Quote from: gordoh on August 15, 2014, 02:23:49 AM

I don't suppose there is any way I could get involved that wouldn't require me to spend Bitcoin?

Best thing to do at the moment is sign up for both the general and fundraising mailing lists (both available from https://www.deckbound.com/contact), as alpha invites and other news will go out to those before they're more widely available (though in some cases early access customers will get access before that).

As we launch the first Heroes test alpha (which is gameplay focussed on fixed cards) and move on to the first card-based alpha we'll be looking for testers, especially those who've got experience with other CCGs and are willing to participate in our forums (http://meta.deckbound.com -- active but pretty vacant right now) -- it'd be great if you could get involved in that. I'll be sure to post updates to this thread as well.

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This is very interesting!

I would really like to be a part of this but right now my wallet is a little slim... I love these strategic card games, Im a huge fan of hearthstone and magic: the gathering. I even used to play yu-gi-oh and the pokemon trading card game. I think with the right marketing, this could become HUGE!!!

I don't suppose there is any way I could get involved that wouldn't require me to spend Bitcoin?

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I've developed a design, architecture and set of services to support playing collectible/trading card games (like Magic the Gathering, Hearthstone, Netrunner etc) using digital identities based on Bitcoin transactions. I'm a games developer and Bitcoin enthusiast and am thrilled to be able to be able to leverage my experience with both to launch Deckbound.

The Deckbound website is here: https://www.deckbound.com/

There's an introduction to the Deckbound Explorer from Jan '15 at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_5GhGhI-k

https://www.deckbound.com/extimg/bct-video-preview.png

I've built a public service to allow tagging and object tracking on the blockchain: https://bitbind.io/ -- i've posted about that previously here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitbindio-system-and-api-for-tagging-and-tracking-objects-with-the-blockchain-708517

The business that runs both is EVA Plexus Limited, which is incorporated in the Isle of Man with the support of the IOM's Department for Economic Development.

The first game based on all of this is called Deckbound Heroes and launches in test alpha soon. You can get early access, sign up for the mailing list and more at the site https://www.deckbound.com/earlyaccess

I'm a passionate believer in the value of skilled play, and want to offer something that allows gamers and the gaming community a way of building meaningful, persistent collections of digital assets by using Bitcoin as a platform. The Deckbound architecture has been designed to allow others to build on top of the same cards and services -- I'd love to hear from people who are interested in doing the same. You can read more about how it works at https://www.deckbound.com/howitworks

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