Topic: Declaration / Declassification of Bit the Coin (BtC) and Call for Assistance (Read 6451 times)

I wouldn't need much as I don't have extravagant tastes or habits but UK is a heavy tax zone so basic living expenses like fuel, food and shelter is expensive.  10k GBP / yr is enough for me (less than supermarket shelf stacker).  I'm not sure how long I could work without compensation as waiting until there is profit could put me out on the street; businesses often don't show a profit for years after start up.  Until I know more that is looking like a high risk & low reward scenario for me.   

The rest of what you write indicates you are short of seed capital, is this right?  If so, I don't think you necessarily need to plead with people.  If you don't like to go to an angel investor why not try crowdfunding? 

Well, I am not sure. As I said, I would like the money to go towards making this project bigger and bigger and to change the world. So, how much do you need to live? Of course, you will not get this immediately, but after it makes profit. The point is that everyone gets approximately equally in respect of personal effort vs. personal capabilities. The reason why I started to hate this capitalist bullshit is that I have ingenious inventions and projects probably worth billions in Swiss francs (CHF) plus being technologically revolutionary, but basically do not have the money necessary to bring them to life and need to plead with montherfuckers who do nothing except have money. Wouldn't it be logical that I am provided with everything necessary to create my technologies so that everyone benefits from them? I really do not get it. People who can create something are being systematically prevented by those who have, who usually create nothing, which also prevents those who have from technologically advancing a few centuries and having an easier life themselves, also. This is – obviously – some kind of insane system. It is based on prevention of success of others so that one gets enough for themselves, while at the same time this success of others could ensure enough for everyone over time. This is – by the way – a form of superrationality; it is purely logical; compassion need not be applied at all. Acts contrary to this are obviously globally insane. It's like two people fighting over an apple tree when each could easily plant their own one. The point is – obviously – then not in the tree, but in killing the other.

Well, now that you posed that problem, automatically-detected spam will not be charged. Note that e. g. SpamAssasin usually makes false positives and not false negatives, so the effect will be that some legitimate plaintext messages will not be charged.

However, I would like to inform you that my SecuriNet uses completely-different technologies to eliminate spam. I haven't been able to make it, yet, due to repetitive government attacks against me. For this project, I will mostly use common technology and not my SecuriNet and related technologies.

Contribution towards hosting.
- I'm skint basically so I'm looking for paying work (preferably paid in cryptos  ), I don't have anything for investing at the moment  . 

What kind of terms you offering? It would do well to sort that out early on to prevent later disagreements.

I like this thinking

The difficulty I forsee is that all most spam is likely to be unencrypted. Are you going to be charging the sender or the recipient for those messages?

Edit: if you just solved the spam problem, your project may be worth it for that reason only

That is less secure for classified communication, but – indeed – we should have that, also, for unclassified communication.




By browser default, it does not. Any Certificate Authority (CA) can perform something I call a Certificate Authority in the Middle (CAitM) attack. How difficult do you think is it for a government to have a Certificate Authority (CA) headquartered on their territory issue them a fake certificate? Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) and/or Transport Layer Security (TLS) can be secure only if all Certificate Authorities (CAs) are set as untrusted and Request for Comments (RFC) 6091 applied, instead.




I will have that set up on the Tor anonymity network; in fact, it will be the Bit the Coin (BtC) Tor Web site. It will cost me about 1 Bitcoin (BTC) without monthly fees until further notice. Care to contribute some part of that 1 Bitcoin (BTC)?




May I propose we rent a dedicated server in the Swiss Confederation for a few dozen Swiss francs (CHF) per month as a primary, special-purpose server plus a dedicated server in the Republic of Austria for 29 Euros (EUR) per month as a secondary, general-purpose server? The latter has 320 gigabytes (GB) of disk space. I also need servers for a basically-free e-mail service – similar to the one used by Eduard Snowden – which I'll be running. The trick in my service will be full compliance with any Swiss government requests. Instead of witholding data, I will make sure correspondents encrypt as much as possible using asymmetric keys beyond my reach by charging for the reception and transmission of unencrypted e-mails. You will see how people will suddenly become tech-savvy. Also, I need a name for the service, if you feel like coming up with some – the applicable ".ch" and ".net" domains should not be taken.




They cost about the same here, but I can't get the best ones here, so your source might come in handy.




I did not reply sooner, because I was transferring the hosting of lovric.net to the Swiss Confederation, creating the Lovrić Extreme Technologies Tor Web site, and working on the Open-Source Antigovernmental Messaging Application (OSAMA) – did you know that 2,048-binary-digit-(bit) Rivest-Shamir-Adleman (RSA) is equivalent to 103-binary-digit-(bit) symmetric keys and can be broken by intelligence agencies within somewhere around 15 years with ordinary hardware – and now think of special hardware?

How about using a private forum for secure communications?  SSL protects privacy just as well as PGP.  I think most forum software can be configured to hide posts & threads from public viewing.  One advantage to this approach over using encrypted email is persistent and organisable content to allow collaborative discussion and planning also PMs can be used for email like communication anyway.  One disadvantage will be hosting and maintenance costs but those are not so great especially for a very small forum just being used by the company agents.  I could help with setting that up, I already have a VPS running.  

On the other matters you asked me about:
- My laptop does have an SD card reader.
- MicroSDXC cards are 35 GBP and upwards in the UK.
- Libertarian Logistics: glad to help with that in anyway I can until you find someone better

Look forward to working with you and I can't wait to make a start.

This... is beautiful.

  Neven! Karan here! i'm going through your plan, will write soon! Smiley Stay Stong! 

Very interesting observation. That's how "security" works in everything.




Technically, yes, but I am acting as sort of a non-government and will have to sponsor community projects with those 0.97%. Just look at the people from URSSMail pleading for 20.00 United States dollars (USD) and no one has given it to them – of course, it might be a scam. Also, no one is doing anything to help Eric Marques – the owner of the late Freedom Hosting, who I think is a hero and consider him to be a political prisoner incarcerated by the realistically–fascist – i. e. more than 0% fascist – United States of America (USA). Note that the Third Reich could have been more fascist, was not 100% fascist, and was only a bit more fascist than the United States of America (USA) on the 100% scale. That's why I fail to see any major difference between my relatives' – Andrija Vrkljans' – participation as the commander of Hrvatski pomorski odjel – the Croatian Naval Department – of the Navy of the Independent State of Croatia under the Kriegsmarine against the Soviet Navy and United States Navy officer participation in the United States Navy. Some hate me for documenting their combat at Wikipedia and at the same time I am wondering how then everyone is documenting United States Navy combat as if it is something good – as in good vs. evil. His book – Hrvatski Argonauti 20. stoljeća – gave me interesting insight into the shortcomings of the Soviet Union and the Soviet Navy from the perspective of an opposing force and is the main reason for this project. He considers communism to be a bad idea; I consider it to be a good idea with bad realization thus far. Also, I will technically be running a capitalistic service; however, I will fine-tune it to destroy equal opportunity and create profit equivalent to personal effort divided by personal capability. When I was a boy, I concluded that it is fair that everyone gets according to that equation. Totalitarian communists are people like locksmith / metalworker Josip Broz – Tito – who were poor mathematicians and could not possibly have invented a fair formula nor technology to make communism work. They were / are almost-exclusively relative retards (Intelligence Quotient (IQ) of e. g. 110 vs. e. g. 150) with guns and bullets who did not know how to create true communism. Noam Chomsky considers them to be protofascists. Several hundred Communist Party (CP) officials – or even the smartest several hundred human beings – cannot possibly conceive a better economy plan than all individual persons put together. My smart plan is just a way to get to a truly-smart economy non-plan. As an information technologist, I perceive smart as use of available intelligence – and there exist about 7 billion human brains on this planet – and not as necessarily having the ability to conceive something using my brain alone. And no, I am not One of Nine and the link to the Collective is only virtual.




It does stand for Berkley Software Distribution.




As I said, "smart" is the use of available intelligence – this including you as I am also at least a bit stupid.

Was going to say that browsers screaming bloody murder over a self-signed cert, but letting HTTP go without a whisper is a design flaw. That I saw the other issues with the Cert.

Edit For some reason I think a 1% (-0.03%) fee is a little high for such a service, but  I could be wrong.

I also thought BSD stood for "Berkley Software Distribution"

PS: I realize these are minor nit-picks.

It is in the conceptual and/or vague design stages of development.

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Declaration / Declassification


Bearing in mind the principles of

• the Vinodol Municipalities as laid down in the Vinodolian Laws prior to feudal additions of 1280, 1288 etc.,
• the Jura Federation,
• the Anarchist International,
• the Free Territory of the Ukraine,
• the Federation of Workers' Societies of the Spanish Region, and
• the International Meeting of anarchism in Saint-Imier,

but having in mind primarily green libertarian communism,

I hereby declare / declassify the intention to create Bit the Coin (BtC) – the green libertarian communist trading platform, accessible at https://www.bitthecoin.net/ via the Internet Protocol versions 4 and 6 (IPv4 and IPv6) and the Tor anonymity network – at the first possible convenience.

The name of the service is the past perfect of the verb "to bite" in conjunction with the noun "coin", based on people usually biting gold coins to check if they are genuine in movies, indicating that Bitcoin (BTC) checks out as genuine. It is also a pun on the construction "binary digit" – i. e. bit – in conjunction with the noun "coin". This alternative meaning may be used interchangeably for whatever purpose.


The platform shall operate using cash – Bitcoins (BTC) and/or similar and fiat currency – and natural trade, only.

For the time being, the service shall be limited to services – including transfer of possession of physical and intellectual items – not banned by various states. If / when free territories come into existence, the service shall offer unrestricted trade within and between the territories. I am particularly interested in organizing trade of the basic necessities such as bread, milk, clothes, tools – from sickles to microcomputers, and building materials – from stone to electronics components, but also services such as building roads from point A to B, paid for by all interested parties. The goal of the service is to enable green libertarian communist syndication and a functional government-free system which can function without any interaction with authoritarians. When this is achieved, all states may become extinct, bringing free territories into undeclared existence.

Trade shall be subject to a small service charge of e. g. 0.97%. The money raised in this manner shall be used for hosting charges, computer equipment etc. not limited exclusively to this platform nor green libertarian communist and/or pure anarchist services initiated and/or founded by me.

The service shall be hosted in the Swiss Confederation until further notice.



Call for Assistance


In respect of that, I am looking for assistants who shall look after some aspects of this service – especially graphics design, support of their native language and script, and user-submitted content moderation – and replace me if / when I should be arrested by the regime, but most-certainly when I am killed / die. The assistants shall irregularly or regularly receive a salary and be provided with computer and/or electronics equipment and other necessities if necessary.

These must be persons

• who are defiant green libertarians and/or pure anarchists,
• who seek green libertarianism and/or pure anarchy to achieve freedom, safety, and peace,
• with a good reputation,
• who speak English well enough to facilitate error-free communication,
• who have decent computer skills and are willing to exclusively use a Linux, a Berkley Systems Design (BSD), and/or the GNU Hurd operating system,
• of action and not of empty statements or chit-chat, and
• who work whenever possible, withstanding lying around and thinking, working on a computer in bed etc.

No other conditions exist, including possession of secure means of access to the Internet as I shall attempt to provide those if necessary.


Additionally, I am looking for persons who would interact with persons without computer skills and/or computer equipment – e. g. the rural peasantry – to enable them to trade their services – including transfer of possession of physical and/or intellectual items – through this service.



Neven Lovrić <[email protected]>
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