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Bit_Happy

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A Great Time to Start Something!

Quote from: TheFootMan on March 28, 2014, 04:03:23 PM

If you can befriend these people, you can.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island

No social security number, no taxes, no government, no tv, no internet, no radio, only fishing, hunting, eating, reproducing and sleeping.

Here's someone trying to visit them, they're not greeted with love!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQuYKYxdVI

Officially, the island has been administered by India as part of the Andaman and Nicobar Islands Union Territory since 1947.[16] However, because there has never been any treaty with the people of the island, nor any record of a physical occupation whereby the people of the island have conceded sovereignty, the island exists in a curious state of limbo under established international law and can be seen as a sovereign entity under Indian protection. It is, therefore, one of the de facto autonomous regions of India.

So are they like cave men?
I'll look at the youtube now....

EDIT:
One of the many gifts include knives?
There's a great plan Cheesy

boumalo

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Quote from: tkbx on March 28, 2014, 08:09:14 PM

Even living of the grid with zero human contact, you still need some kind of human-created form of entertainment and education, meaning you're still being affected by society, even if not vice versa.

You can imagine living only with your family or friends so you have human interaction but only with a small selected group

You could argue you are then in a small society, it makes me think of the movie The Beach..

tkbx

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Even living of the grid with zero human contact, you still need some kind of human-created form of entertainment and education, meaning you're still being affected by society, even if not vice versa.

cosmofly

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Quote from: duhosnyul on March 28, 2014, 03:28:29 AM

Just transfer to another country. All governments are not the same. I hunt birds, wild chicken, wild animals, fish in the rivers and seas I do not need a license for that lol. Only big fishing company needs a license. I don't pay tax and I don't expect to get services my government in return.

where u live

boumalo

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Quote from: spazzdla on March 28, 2014, 04:16:36 PM

Quote from: durrrr on March 26, 2014, 07:52:43 PM

i have the same thoughts. if i go out into the woods to live off the grid society wouldnt let this happen and id most likely break laws some how. i believe that if we live inside of the USA we are not allowed to opt out of society and all of its bullshit. we just have to live.

This, people go on about if you don't like it move.. move where?

Sorry slave.. slavers don't just let their slaves go.

Some governments are not hurting their cows as much as others yet so sometimes it can be good to leave when your farmer tolerates that you do

Quote from: TheFootMan on March 28, 2014, 04:03:23 PM

If you can befriend these people, you can.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island

No social security number, no taxes, no government, no tv, no internet, no radio, only fishing, hunting, eating, reproducing and sleeping.

Here's someone trying to visit them, they're not greeted with love!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQuYKYxdVI

They sure didn't want to talk to them

spazzdla

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Quote from: durrrr on March 26, 2014, 07:52:43 PM

i have the same thoughts. if i go out into the woods to live off the grid society wouldnt let this happen and id most likely break laws some how. i believe that if we live inside of the USA we are not allowed to opt out of society and all of its bullshit. we just have to live.

This, people go on about if you don't like it move.. move where?

Sorry slave.. slavers don't just let their slaves go.

TheFootMan

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If you can befriend these people, you can.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sentinel_Island

No social security number, no taxes, no government, no tv, no internet, no radio, only fishing, hunting, eating, reproducing and sleeping.

Here's someone trying to visit them, they're not greeted with love!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJQuYKYxdVI

Bit_Happy

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A Great Time to Start Something!

Quote from: duhosnyul on March 28, 2014, 03:28:29 AM

Just transfer to another country. All governments are not the same. I hunt birds, wild chicken, wild animals, fish in the rivers and seas I do not need a license for that lol. Only big fishing company needs a license. I don't pay tax and I don't expect to get services my government in return.

What country are you in?
Sounds pretty good from here.

duhosnyul

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Quote from: b!z on March 28, 2014, 10:16:33 AM

Quote from: zolace on March 28, 2014, 10:11:16 AM

Governments want to control even the air we breath,is hard this days to be outside society,if you try to do that you will be seen like a freak .But there are some parts of world were the government,tax and civilization didn't rich yet ; look at the amazonian tribes,or the one from Africa .So if you don't want to leave in “a society” you can go there.

b-bu-but a tribe is a society too!

He had no other choice but to become a hermit.

b!z

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Quote from: zolace on March 28, 2014, 10:11:16 AM

Governments want to control even the air we breath,is hard this days to be outside society,if you try to do that you will be seen like a freak .But there are some parts of world were the government,tax and civilization didn't rich yet ; look at the amazonian tribes,or the one from Africa .So if you don't want to leave in “a society” you can go there.

b-bu-but a tribe is a society too!

zolace

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Governments want to control even the air we breath,is hard this days to be outside society,if you try to do that you will be seen like a freak .But there are some parts of world were the government,tax and civilization didn't rich yet ; look at the amazonian tribes,or the one from Africa .So if you don't want to leave in “a society” you can go there.

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Quote from: Bit_Happy on March 27, 2014, 02:10:51 AM

~9 months a year (not the summer) you can live in 'anarchist' Slab City.
Life Off the Grid in Slab City (short video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpPmT7S4zHE

EDIT:
Freedom does not always == First class/top shelf or even "comfortable".

What a hell hole

boumalo

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Quote from: duhosnyul on March 28, 2014, 03:57:16 AM

You could be this guy

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2014/01/07/3408086/mick-dodge-rain-forest-dweller.html

or like this guy Grin

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/15/amou-haji-iran-hasnt-bathed-60-years_n_4602936.html

That was entertaining, I don't want to know the smell of the ira.nian one

Mick Dodge seems not to stay in the forest for the winter : "he enjoys a warm cabin and spending time with a lady friend."

duhosnyul

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You could be this guy

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2014/01/07/3408086/mick-dodge-rain-forest-dweller.html

or like this guy Grin

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/15/amou-haji-iran-hasnt-bathed-60-years_n_4602936.html

duhosnyul

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Just transfer to another country. All governments are not the same. I hunt birds, wild chicken, wild animals, fish in the rivers and seas I do not need a license for that lol. Only big fishing company needs a license. I don't pay tax and I don't expect to get services my government in return.

dank

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You cannot kill love

Quote from: durrrr on March 26, 2014, 11:54:32 PM

Quote from: b!z on March 26, 2014, 11:49:45 PM

become a hermit.

you would still be involved with society . its impossible to completly opt out and be off the grid. sometime your gonna dela with society and you will always have to follow laws.

Stare into the sun and harvest psychedelic mushrooms for energy. All you need is love.

boumalo

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Quote from: Fior Sirtheoir on March 27, 2014, 09:46:05 PM

The closest thing you will come to is becoming a World Citizen and expatriating.

A world citizen? Is that a real thing?

I believe in voting with your feet; you can go to a freer society where the state desn't control the whole system that much

Fior Sirtheoir

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The closest thing you will come to is becoming a World Citizen and expatriating.

freedomno1

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Learning the troll avoidance button :)

Quote from: Bit_Happy on March 27, 2014, 08:38:36 PM

Quote from: Tonka Branded Truck on March 27, 2014, 01:59:05 AM

Quote from: Lauda on March 27, 2014, 01:45:53 AM

Quote from: Tonka Branded Truck on March 27, 2014, 01:19:10 AM

Create your own country like Sealand or the Principality of Hutt River. And you will the king in your own new kingdom.

Wouldn't you like that?

I wouldn't do that. I would miss my job, my friends, my family and the sedentary life of the city.

If WW3 comes to your city your "sedentary life" is going to change.
good luck.

So true although I wonder will they nuke the mountain ranges or is it safer to stay in the city during WWIII

Or perhaps live in the ocean on a nice boat until it gets found lol.

(Opt out of society on a boat in International Waters lol)

Bit_Happy

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A Great Time to Start Something!

Quote from: Tonka Branded Truck on March 27, 2014, 01:59:05 AM

Quote from: Lauda on March 27, 2014, 01:45:53 AM

Quote from: Tonka Branded Truck on March 27, 2014, 01:19:10 AM

Create your own country like Sealand or the Principality of Hutt River. And you will the king in your own new kingdom.

Wouldn't you like that?

I wouldn't do that. I would miss my job, my friends, my family and the sedentary life of the city.

If WW3 comes to your city your "sedentary life" is going to change.
good luck.

Lauda

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Quote from: Tonka Branded Truck on March 27, 2014, 01:59:05 AM

I wouldn't do that. I would miss my job, my friends, my family and the sedentary life of the city.

You can travel and visit them?

counter

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Time is on our side, yes it is!

I thought opting out of society was meant literally so I pictured someone becoming a hermit of sorts. Maybe I misunderstood either way maybe you could go to the rainforest, jungles or desert and start fresh there some place that is very hard to survive unless you have the knowledge to do so... That way you can pretty much be assured you will be left alone.

boumalo

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Doing a retreat could be an effective way to opt out of society, a retreat in Tibe.t for exemple

If you change your nationality you basically opt out of a country for an other one and you can just forget your old life if you didn't do something illegal before you left

EndlessWin

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Quote from: Tonka Branded Truck on March 27, 2014, 01:19:10 AM

Create your own country like Sealand or the Principality of Hutt River. And you will the king in your own new kingdom.

the become 'doctor doom' and try to conquer the world. if something go south just say 'you can't reach me it's my own country you have no jurisdiction here' Grin

Bit_Happy

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A Great Time to Start Something!

~9 months a year (not the summer) you can live in 'anarchist' Slab City.
Life Off the Grid in Slab City (short video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpPmT7S4zHE

EDIT:
Freedom does not always == First class/top shelf or even "comfortable".

kuroman

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opting out of society doesn't mean opting out of any possible contact with familly and friends, it's just that you don't follow everything and every trend that is out, you are not connected with your various devices severals hours a day, and you are not being flooded with different kinds of porpaganda every day and every second

Tonka Branded Truck

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Quote from: Lauda on March 27, 2014, 01:45:53 AM

Quote from: Tonka Branded Truck on March 27, 2014, 01:19:10 AM

Create your own country like Sealand or the Principality of Hutt River. And you will the king in your own new kingdom.

Wouldn't you like that?

I wouldn't do that. I would miss my job, my friends, my family and the sedentary life of the city.

freedomno1

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Learning the troll avoidance button :)

The easiest way to opt out of society is to overcome society
Basically stop being a worker(Slave) and be one of the elite fat cats by making a lot of money

Then society works for you and you don't need to partake in society itself but just be a parasite that feeds it.

kuroman

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It's possible, non the less it will require some dedication and it will be hard in the begining, but once you get into it, it's not possible especially if you decide to live in the country side in a remoted area

DeathAndTaxes

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Gerald Davis

Seasteading is really your only option. Prohibitively expensive but maybe in a couple decades (or centuries) material science will advance enough to make it a reality. Cryptocurrency would be a perfect extra-national currency for extra-national people.

Lauda

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Quote from: Tonka Branded Truck on March 27, 2014, 01:19:10 AM

Create your own country like Sealand or the Principality of Hutt River. And you will the king in your own new kingdom.

Wouldn't you like that?

counter

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Time is on our side, yes it is!

I don't think so... Some dude just got shot dead for camping in the middle of nowhere. They threw a concussion grenade at him after the called him over to talk and when he ran they shot him dead. Seems like you will pay taxes till death or be shot dead in the middle of nowhere for no reason if you don't.

Tonka Branded Truck

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Create your own country like Sealand or the Principality of Hutt River. And you will the king in your own new kingdom.

dotcom

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Quote from: b!z on March 26, 2014, 11:49:45 PM

become a hermit.

^ this

Quote from: durrrr on March 26, 2014, 11:54:32 PM

Quote from: b!z on March 26, 2014, 11:49:45 PM

become a hermit.

you would still be involved with society . its impossible to completly opt out and be off the grid. sometime your gonna dela with society and you will always have to follow laws.

Where do you live? There's tons of backcountry in the U.S. where people live off-grid. Shit there's even legally-protected land set aside for communities that live different ways of life. Ofcourse, being a hermit, you'll never have any real protection from other citizens (or from the government for that matter).

b!z

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Bitcointalk is part of society :-)

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Quote from: b!z on March 26, 2014, 11:49:45 PM

become a hermit.

you would still be involved with society . its impossible to completly opt out and be off the grid. sometime your gonna dela with society and you will always have to follow laws.

b!z

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become a hermit.

durrrr

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i have the same thoughts. if i go out into the woods to live off the grid society wouldnt let this happen and id most likely break laws some how. i believe that if we live inside of the USA we are not allowed to opt out of society and all of its bullshit. we just have to live.

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