Topic: Delete this post, is useless now. If you want enjoy a good read (Read 2273 times)

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 07:35:51 AM

No Vod as you can see I have 2.5btc as collateral!

Then you can have your loan!

Like I said, make sure the collateral is in the hands of a trusted escrow...

Who would you like Vod, and how much extra will it cost me?
Dont forget there are already fees on the loans.

There are no fees on the loans here.

Find a trusted collateral and deposit 2.5btc worth of altcoins, and you will get a 2.5btc loan here no problem!

Of course, if you have 2.5btc to begin with, why do you need a loan?

Well exactly, this is why I WAS asking for 7.5, as that is what I would have liked.
Dont worry Vod, I give up you win.
Enjoy it.

ps. if you really wanted to know what I wanted it for read the original loan request.
It was for Scrypt, for a bit of trading, for some other investments including Genesis-Mining and some others.
But its all too late for that now, whats done is done.

Vod

legendary

Activity: 3668

Merit: 3010

Licking my boob since 1970

Quote from: Vod on May 14, 2015, 07:34:17 AM

Quote from: Vod on May 14, 2015, 07:34:17 AM

No Vod as you can see I have 2.5btc as collateral!

Then you can have your loan!

Like I said, make sure the collateral is in the hands of a trusted escrow...

Who would you like Vod, and how much extra will it cost me?
Dont forget there are already fees on the loans.

There are no fees on the loans here.

Find a trusted collateral and deposit 2.5btc worth of altcoins, and you will get a 2.5btc loan here no problem!

Of course, if you have 2.5btc to begin with, why do you need a loan?

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

No Vod as you can see I have 2.5btc as collateral!

Then you can have your loan!

Like I said, make sure the collateral is in the hands of a trusted escrow...

Who would you like Vod, and how much extra will it cost me?
Dont forget there are already fees on the loans.

Vod

legendary

Activity: 3668

Merit: 3010

Licking my boob since 1970

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 07:28:39 AM

No Vod as you can see I have 2.5btc as collateral!

Then you can have your loan!

Like I said, make sure the collateral is in the hands of a trusted escrow...

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

No Vod as you can see I have 2.5btc as collateral!

How many times do I need to prove this to you?!
You know what you continue to govern and rule this thread im out.

Enjoy your rule of fame.

Vod

legendary

Activity: 3668

Merit: 3010

Licking my boob since 1970

Wait Vod you say:
Will change this trust to negative if this user account asks for any more non collateral loans before June 15, 2015. Please inform Vod.

But here you say I can request a loan if I have collateral.
Why post that then?
If I request another BTCjam loan what does it have to do with you now?
I will not ask on here. So why would I be reported?

I feel like a bloody child in the feking principals office!
All because I wanted something legit that someone else doesnt get enough proof over.

I removed it under good will too, surely that counts for much more.
But alas

You are acting like a child in the principals office.

You tell me you understand asking for a loan without collateral was wrong, and you remove your listing, so I remove your negative trust.

Then I leave the room and you want to go and post another loan without collateral? Even though you agreed it was wrong before?

You didn't remove it under good will - you removed it after community outcry.

Sigh.... govern yourself accordingly. Undecided

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Wait Vod you say:
Will change this trust to negative if this user account asks for any more non collateral loans before June 15, 2015. Please inform Vod.

But here you say I can request a loan if I have collateral.
Why post that then?
If I request another BTCjam loan what does it have to do with you now?
I will not ask on here. So why would I be reported?

I feel like a bloody child in the feking principals office!
All because I wanted something legit that someone else doesnt get enough proof over.

I removed it under good will too, surely that counts for much more.
But alas

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Quote from: Vod on May 14, 2015, 07:25:32 AM

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 07:24:35 AM

If Vod allows I will try do a smaller one next.

Make sure the collateral is in the hands of a trusted escrow first.

Trust me Vod I will never again ask on here for a loan!
You have seen to that, even with collateral, I just will not.

I will post up another BTCjam loan later on and will leave it on BTCjam and far away from here.

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Quote from: tidus1097 on May 14, 2015, 07:24:38 AM

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 07:22:43 AM

Could I ask for a smaller amount maybe another 2btc?
I would really like to continue to build my portfolios.

Thanks for controlling my accounts by the way.
My hands are seriously tied if I want to keep my good rep, which is worth more to me as you could clearly see.

If you have hit a nail in the road with your income, there is a debt consolidation loan which will help you refinance your origional loan. If you elect to do that route, it will make your payments smaller, but you'll end up spending more. Pay off the first loan. Then if needed, ask for a second.

I have no outstanding loans...
I was asking for funding for a new loan of 7.5, but it was too big a jump.

I have no debt and this listing was deleted.

Vod

legendary

Activity: 3668

Merit: 3010

Licking my boob since 1970

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 07:24:35 AM

If Vod allows I will try do a smaller one next.

Make sure the collateral is in the hands of a trusted escrow first.

tidus1097

sr. member

Activity: 434

Merit: 252

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 07:22:43 AM

Could I ask for a smaller amount maybe another 2btc?
I would really like to continue to build my portfolios.

Thanks for controlling my accounts by the way.
My hands are seriously tied if I want to keep my good rep, which is worth more to me as you could clearly see.

If you have hit a nail in the road with your income, there is a debt consolidation loan which will help you refinance your origional loan. If you elect to do that route, it will make your payments smaller, but you'll end up spending more. Pay off the first loan. Then if needed, ask for a second.

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Quote from: tidus1097 on May 14, 2015, 07:21:37 AM

BTCJam investors probably are not funding the loan. When I asked for a loan on btcjam 1.27BTC it was funded in 2 days. Thats of course because I have a full time job and a B rating without any outstanding debts. I do currently owe 1BTC but it is nowhere near late, and I do make the payments for it as agreed in the loan. But if your asking for investors on Bitcointalk, to me, that means investors from BTCJam are not investing. If they were. Your email would be spammed with "New BTCJam Investment Received" which leads me to believe that they do not believe you either.

I was 15% invested within 2 days.

I was just trying to speed it along.

My 1btc was funded in a little over a day too.
But this was a larger amount and as others on here there was skepticism, which I totally understand.

I just did not think it would turn out like this...

Anyway listing removed to keep everyone happy.

If Vod allows I will try do a smaller one next.

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Could I ask for a smaller amount maybe another 2btc?
I would really like to continue to build my portfolios.

Thanks for controlling my accounts by the way.
My hands are seriously tied if I want to keep my good rep, which is worth more to me as you could clearly see.

tidus1097

sr. member

Activity: 434

Merit: 252

BTCJam investors probably are not funding the loan. When I asked for a loan on btcjam 1.27BTC it was funded in 2 days. Thats of course because I have a full time job and a B rating without any outstanding debts. I do currently owe 1BTC but it is nowhere near late, and I do make the payments for it as agreed in the loan. But if your asking for investors on Bitcointalk, to me, that means investors from BTCJam are not investing. If they were. Your email would be spammed with "New BTCJam Investment Received" which leads me to believe that they do not believe you either.

Vod

legendary

Activity: 3668

Merit: 3010

Licking my boob since 1970

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 07:19:35 AM

Like I said I did NOT NEED this loan.

Rather I was trying to improve my own stance in the market.

We are familiar with reputation loans - they almost always end up as scams.

Please don't ask for another loan using this account for at least 30 days.
https://btcjam.com/users/190227

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Quote from: Vod on May 14, 2015, 07:19:19 AM

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 07:17:51 AM

There I hope you are bloody happy.

Loan removed...
Consider yourself a god, and bloody cynic.
Enjoy your happy life

I don't consider myself a god - I just consider myself a moral person.

Unless you are an idiot, you must realize that jumping from 1btc to 7.5btc without collateral, and increasing the interest rate by 3x is a RED FLAG.

The only reason I went up was I wanted to make an impact.

But I can see now it was too much to ask, so it is removed now.
Please remove your negative rating. I appreciate your time in showing me the way and how people think in this life.

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Like I said I did NOT NEED this loan.

Rather I was trying to improve my own stance in the market.

Vod

legendary

Activity: 3668

Merit: 3010

Licking my boob since 1970

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 07:17:51 AM

There I hope you are bloody happy.

Loan removed...
Consider yourself a god, and bloody cynic.
Enjoy your happy life

I don't consider myself an imaginary god - I just consider myself a moral person.

Unless you are an idiot, you must realize that jumping from 1btc to 7.5btc without collateral, and increasing the interest rate by 3x is a RED FLAG.

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

There I hope you are bloody happy.

Loan removed...
Consider yourself a god, and bloody cynic.
Enjoy your happy life

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

It is not, and I will gladly remove the 7.5btc.

Give me 2 seconds.

Vod

legendary

Activity: 3668

Merit: 3010

Licking my boob since 1970

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 07:14:05 AM

It did not happen as I expected. And I would gladly remove all links if you remove your negative rating.

I'll be happy to remove the rating if you stop trying to scam.

That would mean closing your listing on BTCJam and not creating a new one.

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Quote from: Vod on May 14, 2015, 07:12:28 AM

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 07:10:30 AM

Wait Vod... IN YOUR own collateral link you say:
- Small valuable items that can be shipped though the mail - i.e. gold, silver, iphones, etc.
- Large items, such as a motorcycle or guitar can be used if you live close to the person giving you the loan.

I am showing that I can post GPU's to people that are worth real $ if I fall out.

Now you are saying that small post able items are not considered collateral?

Of course not.

I'm saying your word is worth nothing.

So what if you show me a picture of your GPUs? Send them to me via the mail, let me test them first BEFORE I give you a loan.

That's how collateral works. So again, read.

That is not what you say...
I can fire them up on a test bench and prove to you they work with screenshots...
But you dont ask this.
I can send them to you if you so desire, but whats to say I will get them back even?

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

You know what, I am really sorry I posted this.

It did not happen as I expected. And I would gladly remove all links if you remove your negative rating.
If you do not wish to do that I will continue to try and fill you with confidence which I am struggling with.

I will send the 2.5btc if you wish, but right now I'm trying to keep my fiat.
I can do other collateral but you dont want to hear it even tho you ask for it.

I am at a lost with you really. Not sure what else you would like.

Vod

legendary

Activity: 3668

Merit: 3010

Licking my boob since 1970

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 07:10:30 AM

Wait Vod... IN YOUR own collateral link you say:
- Small valuable items that can be shipped though the mail - i.e. gold, silver, iphones, etc.
- Large items, such as a motorcycle or guitar can be used if you live close to the person giving you the loan.

I am showing that I can post GPU's to people that are worth real $ if I fall out.

Now you are saying that small post able items are not considered collateral?

Of course not.

I'm saying your word is worth nothing.

So what if you show me a picture of your GPUs? Send them to me via the mail, let me test them first BEFORE I give you a loan.

That's how collateral works. So again, read.

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Quote from: Vod on May 14, 2015, 07:07:33 AM

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 07:05:40 AM

I have multiple GPU's (hardware) I can use as collateral too...

GTX 780's and 1 or 2 titans.

I can take a pic of them, what would you like as proof piece of paper with my forum name?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6311902

Read it.

Again, your word (and your promises and your claims of ownership) mean nothing here. We ask for collateral.

Keep your scam on btcjam.TM

Wait Vod... IN YOUR own collateral link you say:
- Small valuable items that can be shipped though the mail - i.e. gold, silver, iphones, etc.
- Large items, such as a motorcycle or guitar can be used if you live close to the person giving you the loan.

I am showing that I can post GPU's to people that are worth real $ if I fall out.

Now you are saying that small post able items are not considered collateral?

Im trying hard to keep to what you request but you keep changing the goal posts.
I am willing to send these gpu's to an escrow if you so desire, but then its all costs.
I am showing I have these available if I default on my loan. You ask for proof I have collateral now you dont wish to see it?

Vod

legendary

Activity: 3668

Merit: 3010

Licking my boob since 1970

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 07:07:50 AM

Thanks for your input, that is a chance I am willing to take.

Of course it is - you are taking it with other people's money! Cheesy

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 14, 2015, 06:59:58 AM

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 07:05:40 AM

Here is the 2btc in Bitfenix that I use for trading...

What forces you to use that coin, or the coin in scrypt.cc, to pay your debts?

(btw.. you posted in your btcscam listing "I currently have 13.5btc from in Scrypt.cc and it pays out 6.6btc per month. I also have other btc elsewhere that I will use to pay this back." Not according to the screenshot!)

Yes this is all due to the change in power over at Scrypt. All rewards have dropped.
If you look over at the scrypt forum you will see all the info on this as you wish.

I placed the loan just before this all went down.

Nope. They were ponzi way before that - from starting.

Thanks for your input, that is a chance I am willing to take.
Also if you look at my loan it is not entirely for Scrypt, I have other investments and some trading I do.
So rest assured they will not all got to scrypt... just a FYI if you read the loan.

Vod

legendary

Activity: 3668

Merit: 3010

Licking my boob since 1970

I have multiple GPU's (hardware) I can use as collateral too...

GTX 780's and 1 or 2 titans.

I can take a pic of them, what would you like as proof piece of paper with my forum name?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6311902

Read it.

Again, your word (and your promises and your claims of ownership) mean nothing here. We ask for collateral.

Keep your scam on btcjam.TM

Muhammed Zakir

hero member

Activity: 560

Merit: 509

I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 07:01:29 AM

I am, but the point of this loan is that I do not want to use my salary straight up to buy BTC.
Otherwise I would have just bought the 7.5 straight up with my credit card or something.

I am trying to avoid using my fiat of this.

I will send the 2.5 for sure as I have it there.
I can do more with fiat, but I will be away for 10 days come Monday, and need my fiat for holiday.

You asked for collateral and I am providing this.

Am I understanding correctly? You send 2.5BTC to lender/escrow as collateral and lender send 7.5BTC to you. Isn't it better to give 5BTC instead?

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 07:01:29 AM

Lastly you can see my details are verified on BTCjam so I am who I say I am at least there.
And along with other exchanges.

What can we do with it?

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

I have multiple GPU's (hardware) I can use as collateral too...

GTX 780's and 1 or 2 titans.

I can take a pic of them, what would you like as proof piece of paper with my forum name?

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Quote from: Vod on May 14, 2015, 06:57:15 AM

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 06:55:12 AM

- The best collateral is another crypto-currency, such as Litecoin (also written as LTC). Coins must be moderately traded on multiple exchanges.
I have shown you Bitfenix account with 2btc.
I will link to my BTC-e account with 0.5btc too.

You prepared to send that 2.5 btc (considerably less than the 13.5btc you claimed you had in your listing) along with another 5btc to a trusted escrow on this forum?

In other words, you need to send at least 7.5 btc worth of cryptocurrency to a trusted person on this forum before we give you the loan. You are ok with that?

I placed the loan just before this all went down.

Then you should probably cancel the loan, don't you think?

What you are doing is called misleading investors... aka fraud.

IF you care to look at the comments I have put this:
Scrypt is back online.
Rewards are lower as elec is higher in this DC, but Admin is working on cheaper rates. I can still make more than enough to pay back this loan from my current Scrypt payouts.
This still does not include any other btc investments and also other cloud mining.

So I have let them know...

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

I am, but the point of this loan is that I do not want to use my salary straight up to buy BTC.
Otherwise I would have just bought the 7.5 straight up with my credit card or something.

I am trying to avoid using my fiat of this.

I will send the 2.5 for sure as I have it there.
I can do more with fiat, but I will be away for 10 days come Monday, and need my fiat for holiday.

You asked for collateral and I am providing this.
No where on your list does it say I need to use the same amount of collateral as I am asking to lend.
I am trying my best to adhere to your wishes.

Lastly you can see my details are verified on BTCjam so I am who I say I am at least there.
And along with other exchanges.

I am not asking for a direct loan here, but through BTCjam.

If I dont get the loan I honestly dont mind, its not the end of the world and not an issue.

Muhammed Zakir

hero member

Activity: 560

Merit: 509

I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 06:55:12 AM

Here is the 2btc in Bitfenix that I use for trading...

What forces you to use that coin, or the coin in scrypt.cc, to pay your debts?

(btw.. you posted in your btcscam listing "I currently have 13.5btc from in Scrypt.cc and it pays out 6.6btc per month. I also have other btc elsewhere that I will use to pay this back." Not according to the screenshot!)

Yes this is all due to the change in power over at Scrypt. All rewards have dropped.
If you look over at the scrypt forum you will see all the info on this as you wish.

I placed the loan just before this all went down.

Nope. They were ponzi way before that - from starting.

Vod

legendary

Activity: 3668

Merit: 3010

Licking my boob since 1970

- The best collateral is another crypto-currency, such as Litecoin (also written as LTC). Coins must be moderately traded on multiple exchanges.
I have shown you Bitfenix account with 2btc.
I will link to my BTC-e account with 0.5btc too.

You prepared to send that 2.5 btc (considerably less than the 13.5btc you claimed you had in your listing) along with another 5btc to a trusted escrow on this forum?

In other words, you need to send at least 7.5 btc worth of cryptocurrency to a trusted person on this forum before we give you the loan. You are ok with that?

I placed the loan just before this all went down.

Then you should probably cancel the loan, don't you think?

What you are doing is called misleading investors... aka fraud.

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 06:51:25 AM

Here is the 2btc in Bitfenix that I use for trading...

What forces you to use that coin, or the coin in scrypt.cc, to pay your debts?

(btw.. you posted in your btcscam listing "I currently have 13.5btc from in Scrypt.cc and it pays out 6.6btc per month. I also have other btc elsewhere that I will use to pay this back." Not according to the screenshot!)

Yes this is all due to the change in power over at Scrypt. All rewards have dropped.
If you look over at the scrypt forum you will see all the info on this as you wish.

I placed the loan just before this all went down.

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

- The best collateral is another crypto-currency, such as Litecoin (also written as LTC). Coins must be moderately traded on multiple exchanges.
I have shown you Bitfenix account with 2btc.
I will link to my BTC-e account with 0.5btc too.

- Some digital wares such as domain names can be considered as long as the user cannot recover it.
I own yourinfoportal.com (not that I am doing anything with it but thats one thing)
I have investments in Genesis-Mining, and HashFlare that you can see if you would like.

- Small valuable items that can be shipped though the mail - i.e. gold, silver, iphones, etc.
I have an iphone 4s spare I can use as collateral but it is at home, will take pics of it tonight.

- Large items, such as a motorcycle or guitar can be used if you live close to the person giving you the loan.
I own my own house so mortgage, I have a car too.
I am based in the UK and on a UK salary.

Vod

legendary

Activity: 3668

Merit: 3010

Licking my boob since 1970

I will pay it back but that is my word, there are always cynic's around the web.

Your word is worth nothing, esp when you jump from 1btc to 7.5btc, all without collateral. Undecided

Muhammed Zakir

hero member

Activity: 560

Merit: 509

I prefer Zakir over Muhammed when mentioning me!

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 06:49:01 AM

This is my current balance in Scrypt.cc

Ponzi accounts are not valid collateral.

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Quote from: Vod on May 14, 2015, 06:48:27 AM

Here is the 2btc in Bitfenix that I use for trading...

What forces you to use that coin, or the coin in scrypt.cc, to pay your debts?

Nothing forces me, but I will to repay my debts!
Like I said if you would like to see my payslips let me know and I will pm them to you, as I can pay this back with fiat too.

SavellM

sr. member

Activity: 305

Merit: 250

Quote from: SavellM on May 14, 2015, 06:43:20 AM

What would you like as collateral?
I can provide my payslips so you know exactly how much I get paid.

But I do not want to do that on public forum, if you want PM me and I'll send you my last 3 months...

What else would you like?

Acceptable collateral is listed here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6311902

Not that you care of course.

You have increased the loan amount requested by over 700%
You have increase the interest you are willing to pay by 300%

I don't believe you have any intention of repaying this loan, should you get it.

Here is the 2btc in Bitfenix that I use for trading...

What forces you to use that coin to pay your debts?

Wow Vod I appreciate the negative feedback without giving me a chance to rectify it...
I will look through that link I did not see it before...

If I follow this will you at least remove your negative rating?
I dont care if you invest or not. I will pay it back but that is my word, there are always cynic's around the web.

Vod

legendary

Activity: 3668

Merit: 3010

Licking my boob since 1970