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Hey scam kid, the address is very real, see here https://explorer.dash.org/address/XbzVogLkeKcqH8Qw5Dut2AWEUJqxArM5gp

i deposited btc, traded for dash and requested withdraw, HOW AM I TRYING TO SCAM $10ish ?

buy yourself a jigsaw puzzle and GTFO from bitcointalk you cheap ass scammer.
my profile is linked to a giveaway, yours is tied to scams

Fake ass

kid, if you want to play a game, buy a jigsaw puzzle of 4 pieces and play.
the dash address has received no transaction as it does not exist. maybe you deposited another currency, but even though, no deposit was made on any of our address.
as for the "my account is 3 year old" the last post before 4th august 2016 is 17 august 2015.  the 4th august post is in a giveaway thread of 1000btc. that shows a lot of your character
i can buy a 2011 account and say my account is 5years old. that is the dumbest line you said, made me go through your past posts. the admins told me to send you the few bucks you are begging for even if you are trying to scam accuse us in hope of getting it for free. however, after a little research on your profile. i can honestly tell you to GTFO
you are trying to scam $10ish.. you must be desperate. very desperate.

Scam confirmed.

This is the withdraw
2016-10-05 03:29:35   1.49925 DASH   XbzVogLkeKcqH8Qw5Dut2AWEUJqxArM5gp   Pending

Since there are no warnings/info that the exchange is closed/dropped and IT DOES accept deposits and new user registrations, then it's only SCAM!

Wrap it any way you want, in the end it is just a scam

PS: the only anon here is you begging for money. Quickseller has good history on this forum, my account is 3 years old, yours is very shady

we have closed the exchange service as it was not running and found many bugs. we dropped the project weeks ago. in any case the whole project is under discussion and we will probably sell it. buyer contacted us already.

however let me know what deposit and what transaction you made and i will get it sorted out.

if the buyer agrees on the amount we are going to sell all 4 projects within the next week. we also made sure the project is rebranded within end of this year.

p.s; quickseller and anors will continue the hate rant as usual, but its okay. life goes on with or without them

So, want to clear the scam accusations?

Then all you got to do is make sure my withdraw from your exchange gets sent, as it stuck in pending for 2+ days now.

If you don't, then we'll all know you're just a small time scammer, until then i'll give you the benefit of doubt, as in innocent until proven guilty.

Let me know which one it is

What's my stake in this exactly? :O

Investments are usually sought because they don't have own funds to do the business. Anyway, invested funds are invested funds - not to be mixed up with any other funds. It's only obvious that invested money will move around while doing the business with it.


Quickseller is on the trolling mood again. LoT simply used ACEs services, that's it. When ACE members checked LoT there was no scammy stuff going on - at least I don't recall seeing anything like that.

LoT certainly looks scammish right now with this 1%/week & 12%/month thingie. Things have apparently changed.

anything been claimed from us yet?
scam?
theft?
gone MIA?

stop picking at ACE and LOT for your personal issues with a user.

also, there is no connection to Lauda. he had a service. we hired. they checked. and thats it

in your mind you are not understanding why we are still here and no one claimed being stolen. thats why you try keep this thread alive as much as you can.

I think his connection to LOT should be fairly obvious if you ask me. Lauda was the one within LOT who was the most supportive/sympathetic of LOT within ACE

why would we answer for Ace? o.O
no, we are answering for ourselves.

You answering for yourself or Ace?

we are still working smooth without complaints and are even in more projects...

your accusation is irrelevant

Now where is Lauda and His Ace signature Team? who promoted this ponzi scaming site for almost a month and no one asked them a single word?
@cryptodevil and @Lutpin ! don't you guys think they should be also blamed for promoting a Ponzi site? or this thing only apply on newbies and low ranked users? Staff members are free to do anything?

Edit: I read somewhere someone asked Ace Group about legitimacy of the site(Ledengs of tommorrwo) and they replied that all team members check the site their self and after confirming everything they started promoting that.

From the beginning I did not understand OP statement, that deposit investor will be untouched, what's the point take 1.8BTC and keep untouched And In addition to pay weekly interest.

What's the point of all those proofs of hundreds of bitcoin at your disposal if you aren't actually going to use them for the very thing you claimed you would?


So if you receive 50 Bitcoin in investment deposits you are supposed to leave those 50 Bitcoin untouched and, instead, use 50 of your own bitcoin and pay any profit you make to your investors.

Likewise, if you receive 1.8 Bitcoin in investment deposits you are supposed to leave those 1.8 Bitcoin untouched and, instead, use 1.8 of your own bitcoin and pay any profit you make to your investors.

The only roadblock I have hit is your dishonesty and weasel-words.

The negative rating will remain as you are patently untrustworthy and a proven liar.

Feel free to open up a butt-hurt thread to whine loudly about the perceived injustice of being held accountable for your actions.

you are very confused.

we could have not done anything and let the 1.8 remain 1.8 rather than instant convert it and give the investors back more. however let me remind you that you are crying about 1.8btc being moved. we have proved over 50btc each in several wallets. in your opinion that 1.8btc being moved is the problem or you are trying to find an issue and make it look like its a problem.

let me remind you that nobody has claimed being scammed till now. if that was the case, after our investors see your post they would have immediately backed out and publicly claim the funds. however that wasnt done.

you are in total denial about us. you may have been a good user to bust scams and what else, but this time you have hit a road block.

It was your in your investors best interests to trade btc to USD and back again.

But you were supposed to do it with your 1.8 btc on their behalf, not their 1.8 btc which was supposedly never going to be touched for any of your services according to you.

So, with regards to your negative rating which is currently serving to alert people to your demonstrably untrustworthy actions, if you wish it removed you have to edit out all claims to how you will use your own funds for your services and leave theirs untouched. Because it isn't true.

Or you could open a complaint thread about your rating in a futile attempt to continue deflecting from your lies.

The choice is yours.

we consider it our investors best interest not trading.

But not again.
I'm sure you consider yourself to be smartly negating questions with your circular replies and ad hominems, but as it all seems to be made up as you go along I doubt that many outside observers would agreed with you.
Apart from, maybe, your investors who aren't investors that you trade for but don't trade for with their money your money.

Reading back, your whole bizarre gambit with claims of substantial capital so "we don't need your investment" becomes more and more absurd.
As was remarked earlier, this should be in "Investor Games" for the amount of credibility it has, but I guess doesn't qualify because of the low returns (unless someone decides to drop you 50+ btc, of course. That you don't need).


WTF do you call it then?

Of course you prefer to leave it as it is, the whole point of your platform's supposedly 'unique' claim towards proving legitimacy was by way of stating you wouldn't use investor deposits for anything and that they would remain untouched for everyone to see at all times.

But that claim is not true.

So by electing to keep it you are lying to everybody who reads it, including potential new investors.

That is the act of seeking investment funds through false misrepresentation, otherwise known as the crime of fraud.

You need to remove all statements which assert you will not use investor funds, because it is not true.

we prefer to let it as it is and put a reference to this thread for misunderstanding to be cleared.

compared to your logic, we take the interest of our investors first. not let them drown with the funds invested.

investment was done from our wallets.

bitfinex hack was unexpected. however after the hack was made public it was obvious the price will crash then restabilize thus the action undertaken was in the interest of our investors not our own. had they said not to convert to usd and keep it in btc, it would have been done. but they understood the reason of us doing it and thus it was done. with their consent.

now coming back to the negative trust you put. i would request you to neutral it rather than leave it negative. however if it stays negative, then we will surely have to have a mod intervention to clear the air and he might understand better what you did not.

The 1.8 BTC was perfectly safe where it was. A crash in the fiat price of BTC still leaves 1.8 BTC in the deposit address.

If you wanted to trade 1.8 BTC-worth of coins so you could make a profit for your investors out of the market movements you were supposed to use 1.8 of your own bitcoin to do so, according to your own words in the OP and throughout this thread, and then give the profit to the investors, leaving their 1.8 BTC sitting happily, untouched, in the deposit address, as you originally and repeatedly assured everybody would be the case.

This was not the case. So you need to edit out all your many claims in this thread that you will leave investor funds untouched, because clearly that is a lie.

based on your "logic" if a boat is sinking you let the boat sink and you dont think about the people on the boat because you told the people on the boat you will not transfer them to another boat until destination. if the boat sinks, doesnt matter, as long as you have not moved the people on the boat to another one.

sorry to say but thats bullish.

thanks for bumping my post daily. i think we're done here

The part where you claimed you'd not move investor deposits to trade with because you'd use your own funds but then went and moved the investor deposits to trade with, instead of using your own funds.

which part of everything we explained and the reason given for the move did you not understand?

Which part of the bold text says you will use investor funds for any of your services?

makes me wonder if you even read any of my reply instead of constantly saying the same thing over and over again.

please refer upwards this comment and read properly what happened.

or let me explain again.

the 1.8btc moved was NOT used for trading.

we informed the investors the price will plummet due to bitfinex hack.

we said if we can sell it high, then rebuy low and the amount of gain will either be used to add on their investment or sent back to them. they chose to be sent back to them.

we sold at 650ish and rebought at 490-500.

the 150ish "excess" was sent to them.

the 1.8btc resent to an address which they know.

it was not done for trading. it was done for our investors advantage.

you better understand the process instead of over repeating yourself.

You were supposed to be conducting these trades with your own coins, yes?

This way the 1.8 btc of investor deposits would stay where it was and you would, instead, perform the trade with 1.8 btc of your own coins and pay the profit from the deal to the investors.

That is the entire premise of your platform.

Why did you not do it that way when you said you would?

dude. seriously??

you high??

But they were used for trading:

Your OP announcement states you will not use investor deposits for this, that you will use your own funds.

So, the question still stands, why did you not use 1.8 btc of your own coins to make that trade from btc to usd and back again?

That was the entire premise of your OP. That you would use your own coins and not the investors' coins.

you are in denial.

the funds of the investors were not used for trading etc and xmr.

the funds of investors were converted to usd at high, then rebought btc at low.

then sent the excess btc amount back to them and the invested amount returned to an address sent to them.

you have understood nothing about my previous comment and still accusing us.

It absolutely is about lies and truth. What is best for those people who trust you is for you not to lie.

Why did you not use your own 1.8 btc to trade with?

As you repeatedly assured people you would be doing.

You were supposed to be using your own money for the trading.

Why did you not perform those trades with your own bitcoin?

btw, get in xmr now, and get out at 0.023 less than 24hours

to reply your other claim.

yes, we went in etc and xmr.

the simple answer to your "logical" statement is :

investors were asked that due to the bitfinex hack, the btc price will auto crash. and if they would like us to move their funds to usd then buy back at lower rate. to which we did and the investors know the new address where their fund are deposited. to which our team does not take any amount from the funds and the total profit is for the investors only. its not based on our investment programme. it was just to show the investors how our organization works.

its not about "lies" or "truth" its about whats best for those who trust us.

it was inevitable the price of btc will fall after bitfinex got hacked. so we rebought at lower and the profit that was made in the process is not for us. its for the investors. BUT the "added amount" is not added to their initial investment.

their investment for the organization stays at the stated % for the amount they have initially deposited. the added amount after rebuy has been discussed and they did not want to re invest the amount. so their deposit stays at the initial amount from the beginning, and the added amount after rebuy was sent to them.

however after understanding how we work, the first investor came back with another investment after the process was fruitful for him.

undisclosed amount as per their request. i also cannot state their usernames as i have been told not to.

however after reading the drama on this post, they have said if needed be, they were willing to sign their initial deposit address to show that they still appreciate our work despite you and your friend trying to tag us with the "scammer" tag

Are you moronically stupid, or just pretending to be?

1. You claimed you would use your own funds for trading and leave investor funds in their deposit addresses.
2. But you then went and moved the deposits from their address and said it was because you used them for trading on ETC and XMR

Ergo, you lied when you claimed you would use your own funds and leave investor funds in their deposit addresses.


How much simpler do you need this to be?

You lied about how you would not be moving investor deposits. It doesn't matter what excuse you think is reasonable, if you say one thing but then your actions prove that you are doing the opposite of what you say, that makes you a liar.


Do you understand this very simple logical path?


Why did you lie and move the investor deposits when you said you would not?

can you please tell me how you got to this conclusion?

you are confused my friend.

No proof of what? I haven't said anything which required proof other than your own statements and actions.

So, if we consider that the above reply to my post is that you do, indeed, have hundreds of bitcoin at your disposal, then you lied about using them for your trading instead of investor deposits.

The question is, why? Why did you lie about how you were going to use your own funds and leave investor deposits untouched?

Like I said, since you are preventing anyone from withdrawing for a year and only pay 1% per week, there won't be anyone complaining about getting scammed for at least a year because you will simply send back half of what was sent to you over a year.

Your refusal to answer any questions with any substance only amplifies how clear it is that you are a scammer.

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several addresses were signed at different times all their balances were 50 and over. so you can talk, but thats it. no proof

Claiming that you "do not need" investor funds makes it clear that you are intending on stealing funds from your investors.

If you really didn't need money from investors then you would not be soliciting people to send you money. By collecting money you claim you do not need, and claiming to not use money you receive from investors, you are effectively giving away money, but forcing people into trusting you with money in order to give away money makes little sense -- why don't you simply host a giveaway?

The restrictions on the ability to withdraw from your "investments" means that there is nearly zero chance that you will receive scam accusations for at least a year, even though you are scammers the whole time.

You moved a mere 1.8btc after stating you wouldn't, yet claim to have hundreds at your disposal.

This objectively proves you either do not have the ability to trade without using your investor deposits, meaning you are lying about having hundreds of bitcoin at your disposal, or you do have hundreds of bitcoin at your disposal and are just lying about intending to using them to ensure your investor deposits do not need to be touched by you.

Either way you've proved yourself to be a liar.

Am I wrong?

I didn't ignore it at all, I am fully aware of the reason you gave for moving that 1.8 BTC from the deposit address.

So you repeatedly use your claim towards your substantial bitcoin holdings to tell everybody, over and over again, how you will not move funds from the deposit address because you'll do all your operations with your own coins and pay their investment returns from your own coins.

Then you went and took the measly 1.8 BTC deposit in that address to trade with. Which goes against the ENTIRE ETHOS of your claim towards being a legit project, namely, that you are so flush with bitcoin yourselves that you won't touch the investor deposits.


Because you've already demonstrated untrustworthy behaviour, which justifies the rating I have given explaining why I believe there is a high risk of you scamming.


No, you are the one who keeps trying to claim that my evaluation of you and your operation is based on subjective thoughts and feelings. Anybody else reading this can clearly see that I have offered objective facts and reasoning explaining your path from bold reassurances being used to attempt to separate you from every other ponzi-scam-as-investment-platform-fraud; being your claims towards substantial liquidity and that all investor deposits will not be touched; to you then completely reversing that position by using those deposits which renders your operation as just the same as every other ponzi-scam-as-investment-platform-fraud. There is no differentiation between you and how investment scams are setup, you've gone back on the one thing which might have served to do so.

So you see this isn't about what I have said and done, no, it is entirely about everything you have said and done.

I don't have to show that you have scammed, I need only show the evidence that you are untrustworthy. That evidence is you breaking your word about the investor deposits never needing to be moved. In that you are provably untrustworthy this leads to the logical conclusion that you are, indeed, likely to be running a scam and that is all I need to justify the negative rating.

You moved a mere 1.8btc after stating you wouldn't, yet claim to have hundreds at your disposal.

It does not matter what 'justification' you believe you had, your reputation from the outset was supposed to be being built on you absolutely not needing investor funds and how they would not even be moved.

As I said, your only path towards rectifying this, if you truly are so liquid you do not need investor funds, is to multisig escrow all your investor deposits. You could easily do this if you really are legit and want to prove yourself so and build a good reputation.

you need glasses, several times we have specified the reason we moved the funds but you choose to ignore it and continue with the same line youve been telling in the several posts youve made here.


then why the negative trust mark?



yes i am only concerned with the negative trust score you gave. you are abusing your power.

without ANY proof we scammed anyone, your negative trust score is just based on your "thoughts" and "feelings" like you said.

show me the facts that we are scamming, that we have scammed. like your  if its obvious. where did you find anyone complaining?

Where did I say you have scammed? Where did I say you stole that deposit?

Your patently obvious avoidance of the facts I have raised, choosing instead to merely whine about being tagged with negative trust, serves only to reinforce the suspicion that your operation is not what you claimed it to be.

*You* chose to brag about how big your holdings were.
*You* chose to assert you had no need to move investor deposits in order to operate your profit-making activities.
*You* Then went and moved said deposit, rendering your sole claim towards being demonstrably different from scam 'investment' operations, null and void.

Ergo, you are no longer any different from every other "Trust us with your money" anonymously-operated structure.

These are objective facts, not opinion.

I fail to see the problem you have with my proposal to multi-sig escrow your investors' deposits. It is an obvious solution to your need to prove yourself a legitimate investment platform and entirely possible, given your claimed liquidity.

we agree there are lots of scammers and dishonnest people. but tagging all new organization with a scammer tag, do you think its valid?

moreover your points are not based on facts. you are saying over and over again that the funds were stolen/moved. but anyone claimed they were scam? no

however you do not stop there, you continue to point baseless points over and over.

you base your accusations not on facts, but on "thoughts". the thing is you cannot wrap your mind around how we work, why we have so much funds and how big our balances are. thus you go on stating that we scammed the funds. lol my friend. so we cannot have the funds? we had to scam it somewhere, thats why we are offering swapping?

in that case if a person with several thousand btc comes on the forum, opens a service. he scammed too?

you and i know well how the forum works. the red mark you gave us, you know exactly that its going to downtrend our service and future service. you know exactly how it works here and people dont even go on the trust and see why the person was given the red trust. they see red and feel its a scammer.

so now, this account is tagged as a scammer without ever having scammed anything.

a neutral, i would accept. but a negative without PROOF?


? you must be so insecure my friend.

So that's your response to the perfectly valid points I have raised? To simply not respond?

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Seriously? Are you under the mistaken impression that ignoring these issues I have raised is a good way to publicly handle the situation?

Pro-tip: It isn't.

No, but people who make bold claims as to not needing investment funds all the while asking for investment funds and how they'll keep deposits in the same address, only to then move them, does.

Other mixers generally involve mixing your coins with other users' coins, not simply declaring a straight swap for whatever you're holding, which sure as shit isn't likely to be clean coins. If you genuinely had large holdings of truly clean coins you could easily find another scammer who'd happily trade his ill-gotten-gains for your unsullied bitcoins at a significantly larger profit margin than a regular mixer.


Obvious deflection from the point is obvious.

You are the Billy-big-balls espousing the largesse of your bitcoin holdings, to the degree that one of your main selling points is how you're so liquid you don't even need to move your investor funds in order to perform your trading and profit-making activities. Only to subsequently go and move them.

At this point the ONLY thing separating you from every other ponzi-scam-as-investment-platform-fraud is your supposed significant bitcoin holdings. You are the one who thought to employ that as a feature of your claimed legitimacy, so you can't then walk it back and still claim to be different from every other ponzi-scam-as-investment-platform-fraud.

So, in taking you at your word concerning your financial resources, the single most convincing move you can make to truly offer a trustworthy investment platform is to put in a place a system whereby a multi-sig escrow arrangement allows investors to know that you cannot steal their coins, while giving you the ability to earn that valuable reputation as a legit investment.

Anything less than that is an admittance that you don't have the coin for it and are simply bullshitting about being different from every other ponzi-scam-as-investment-fraud operation.



I disagree. You already reneged on one of your supposed features, so it is important that new readers of your promotional posts are alerted to that fact.

If you put in place the very thing your supposedly unique structure can easily do, escrowing all investment deposits, then the rating will be removed.

so any new person building up a service is flagged here? then everything should remain in the hands of those already having several projects under their wing. thus no new person is able to conduct any business? set up any new environment or come up with a new project? (we did not even ask for funds from anyone to build up our services btw)



so helix and all other mixers are scamming people? this is a very stupid argument imho. but nevertheless, thanks for pointing out.



excuse my language but escrows here are very untrustworthy, your friend is one of them

i like sebastianJu, worked with him. but your point is;

WE build a service, and someone else hold the funds? what if the person dies whilst holding our fund? are you going to pay us back? will you be able?



until you can prove that we scam someone, your accusation should be neutral rather than negative.

The kind of people who are looking for a way to offload the bitcoin they already scammed from earlier schemes they operated.

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This whole setup looks like, well a setup designed to both scam money from people as well as launder their own proceeds of crime.

Unfortunately they're already spending the money they are being sent, even in the face of bold promises like:

OP has made no effort towards proposing a transparent or secure platform, yet given their oft-repeated talk of how they do not need any investment capital to operate, they could simple propose that all investment deposits be made to a legitimate escrow for the duration of the investment period.

Until they put such a facility in place to protect their investors funds all this thread is discussing is a scam-in-progress.

like we said, we dont need your investment, this is just to get us exposure on more development that we are doing currently.

investors knows exactly when we are trading, what we are trading, when we open and when we close our position. they also know when its unprofitable what we do. when its profitable what we do.

but thanks for the bump quick-escrow-scammer

I think it is very interesting that there is no mention of ETC, XMR, or even any altcoin trading anywhere in this thread prior to this post.

I am not surprised that you just so happened to mention two altcoins that have very recently generated large price increases in recent times.

What exactly is your plan for when one of your altcoin trades turns out to be unprofitable? How are you going to continue to pay "investors" their interest every month while maintaining the ability to refund their principal after their one year is up?

to answer quickseller. as we have answered another curious onlooker 3 weeks ago. we moved the funds to trading.

invested in etc which generated a good profit and invested in xmr which is still generating profit

for those who have invested BEFORE the etc - xmr mainstream attention. they have been notified of the bonus they are getting along with their initial income.

all investors also know that if the investment didnt pay out well, we would have refunded the exact amount the investors invested in with us, without taking into consideration the interest that have already been paid out.

however quick-escrow-scammer has been trying to ruin our reputation for a while without being able to.

we have signed several addresses since we started here.

to answer the last person who's post is previous of mine,

we are not ponzi schemes.

our investors know exactly where their coins are and how it is being used.

fud spreaders like quick-escrow-scammer, can honestly try defame us. but will not succeed.

have a good day everyone.

why is that this forum has such double standards? If this type of shit was posted in investors based games in gambling section the OP Would have been tagged red already. I checked out the site and it doesnt show anything that differentiates itself from being a potential ponzi or hyip scam. Even more so, since this "legends of tomorrow" is also offering a crypto exchanger and mixing service.

What is even more alarming is the group "ACE" endorses them by allowing them to advertise on their sigs https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1547364

Why is it allowed? Just because its posted in securities section people dont bother to take a second look?

Correct me if im wrong but i dont see any reputable member who is behind "legends of tomorrow" that would make me trust them with any coins, or ANY of their sketchy looking services.

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN THESE DOUBLE STANDARDS TO ME!

They obviously do not generate any income from the money you send them. It is very clear to me that they have setup a HYIP/ponzi in a way that will allow them to appear to be paying their investors over a long period of time, when the majority of their investors' money is really tied up in their "program".

please enjoy yourself

Lol, interesting that you are making ad honinem attacks about something that happened a year ago from someone who hasn't been here three months. Why aren't you using your main account? It shouldn't be difficult to figure out who your main account is considering that your "real" IP address is leaking.

Anyway, please don't address any of my concerns.

agreed on your point.

however those involved will always be notified prior to anything that happens.

but thank you for your comment.

That depends on how reliable you want the information that you post in this thread to be.
And yeah, I'll excuse you this time.

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There's no need for that, nor does it look good on you for obviously deflecting from answering a reasonable, if slightly rhetorical, question.
If you want to gain trust enough to lock investors' money up for a fixed period, stating
 

and then moving them within a month without notification, isn't a particularly smart move.

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funds are not sitting but nobody has launched any scam accusation neither.

and if anyone wants to scam accused, kindly sign the sending address first.

So in other words, you want people to send you money with the expectation that they will not see it again in a long time, and in order to build up trust, you will return 50% of their money over a year, to entice people to send you even more money?

Oh, BTW, funds are not sitting at that address anymore

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its not easy to invest 0.3 for long term..

with pleasure.

any other questions anyone has, do not hesitate.

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Well They already have 2 investors i guess. Low activity is not anything everyone launches its website or its idea and came here to share with us.

I'm sorry but I cannot trust this. You have low activity (which is ok) but it is coupled with a high minimum of 0.30btc that is far too much to start off with. I don't trust this at all. Where are som past investments as proof ? How is this working what exactly is being invested in and why do you come here asking for an investment ? Why not get a long term loan if this is legit the bank will give you one surely.

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countdown has begun

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People may ask you that how much bankroll you guys have ? How much bitcoins is reserved for Bitcoin Mixing , Exchange , Investment etc?
I know you have cold storage you have stored your bitcoins in offline wallet.
I guess you already have on investor.

reserve for part 2

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