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May 07, 2014, 06:40:30 AM
#20


Whenever people are lookin for stakes and loans and anything shady is going on, they want to compartmentalize what is going on.  Multiple stakes at once is the most obvious scam in a situation like this.  A person can't do this if they are open, but a scammer would wish to keep it all in PMs.

Thats why people are skeptical.

I agree ppl should always be skeptical because the internet. I hate scammers myself.

If you have ever staked someone professional you should know multiple stakes not working longterm because of the history audits. And before you want to stake someone you make sure to do your homework before staking someone.
It seems you are not intrested in staking but just aware of people that this could be scam. And ppl should watch out. I think its good ppl warns others.

Now, because i dont want to get doxxed before i get a stake i rather avoid publicly. I dont want my name spread on the internet just because i made this thread.




Yes, but by keeping it all secret you can run multiple stakes and skip off.  I dealt a lot with giving out stakes, and people never hide their online name.  The only reason you would do that is if you are hiding something somewhere.  I don't want you doxxed either, but thats why we have online names.  Good luck!

I dont mind to put up my nick on a poker forum seeking for stakes, but this is the bitcoin world Smiley

I will send you a PM in a bit, i know you not intrested, but atleast let me prove to one poster
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May 07, 2014, 06:17:05 AM
#19


Whenever people are lookin for stakes and loans and anything shady is going on, they want to compartmentalize what is going on.  Multiple stakes at once is the most obvious scam in a situation like this.  A person can't do this if they are open, but a scammer would wish to keep it all in PMs.

Thats why people are skeptical.

I agree ppl should always be skeptical because the internet. I hate scammers myself.

If you have ever staked someone professional you should know multiple stakes not working longterm because of the history audits. And before you want to stake someone you make sure to do your homework before staking someone.
It seems you are not intrested in staking but just aware of people that this could be scam. And ppl should watch out. I think its good ppl warns others.

Now, because i dont want to get doxxed before i get a stake i rather avoid publicly. I dont want my name spread on the internet just because i made this thread.




Yes, but by keeping it all secret you can run multiple stakes and skip off.  I dealt a lot with giving out stakes, and people never hide their online name.  The only reason you would do that is if you are hiding something somewhere.  I don't want you doxxed either, but thats why we have online names.  Good luck!
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May 07, 2014, 05:45:15 AM
#18


Whenever people are lookin for stakes and loans and anything shady is going on, they want to compartmentalize what is going on.  Multiple stakes at once is the most obvious scam in a situation like this.  A person can't do this if they are open, but a scammer would wish to keep it all in PMs.

Thats why people are skeptical.

I agree ppl should always be skeptical because the internet. I hate scammers myself.

If you have ever staked someone professional you should know multiple stakes not working longterm because of the history audits. And before you want to stake someone you make sure to do your homework before staking someone.
It seems you are not intrested in staking but just aware of people that this could be scam. And ppl should watch out. I think its good ppl warns others.

Now, because i dont want to get doxxed before i get a stake i rather avoid publicly. I dont want my name spread on the internet just because i made this thread.

Like i said, i want to proof here im legit, If you have a PS account or pocketfives account i can send you a PM there also.

Anyway, it seems this isnt going well and i know this is the bitcoin world, aware of scammers Smiley
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May 07, 2014, 03:31:17 AM
#17


Whenever people are lookin for stakes and loans and anything shady is going on, they want to compartmentalize what is going on.  Multiple stakes at once is the most obvious scam in a situation like this.  A person can't do this if they are open, but a scammer would wish to keep it all in PMs.

Thats why people are skeptical.
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May 06, 2014, 02:12:10 PM
#16
I totally forgot USA are not aloud on pokerstars anymore because the ban

So no sweats for USA investors if this ever comes to reality.
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May 06, 2014, 01:55:58 PM
#15
Its very easy to grab anyones graph and pass it off as your own.

I am not saying you are doing this, i am saying that you would need to provide a lot more proof to an interested party to prove this graph came from you.  For example, giving out the username so people can go to the database site that you took the screen from, enter in the username and make sure that the graphs match up.  Also you would have to log into stars under that username in verify via chat through the stars client that you are indeed the one behind that name.  Furthermore, i would personally want your full first and last name and where you currently reside.  This might seem a little invasive but i am the one providing you with the money and therefore i have all the risk.

Also, I have not read the comments in this thread so this might have already been brought up but if it has not please explain why you are looking for partners now.  The only comment i glanced at said you and your previous partner had a 50/50 split which would leave you with over 100k.  What happened between then and now?  How was all this money spent or lost? How did you come to the point of needing a new investor? If you are showing that kind of a return why would the previous investor stop or leave?  If you had an agreed on a certain amount of money to be paid back to the investor and then the deal was over i revert back to my previous question, why do you need more money now?

I can send you 1 cent to verify if you have a stars account. If you havnt i can verify on the table chat indeed. I wil disclose my full name and resident of course if you intrested. Im not gonna post here in public those stuff. So i rather looking for 1 investor to make everything easier. Im looking for new investor to have a better cut deal sinds online poker get tougher every year and players have to work harder and put more volume in their games.
The winnings are from over the years on that site. I played with investors money better then i play on my own. It shut down my emotions so can maximize my profits

EDIT: i see you are a long member in this forum. If you have an account please PM your nick i will send 1 cent to you so you can confirm  if you have received it. You can go to sharkscope.com and put my nick in the site and see the results.
This will help me also that one of a member here confirms
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May 06, 2014, 01:17:16 PM
#14
Its very easy to grab anyones graph and pass it off as your own.

I am not saying you are doing this, i am saying that you would need to provide a lot more proof to an interested party to prove this graph came from you.  For example, giving out the username so people can go to the database site that you took the screen from, enter in the username and make sure that the graphs match up.  Also you would have to log into stars under that username in verify via chat through the stars client that you are indeed the one behind that name.  Furthermore, i would personally want your full first and last name and where you currently reside.  This might seem a little invasive but i am the one providing you with the money and therefore i have all the risk.

Also, I have not read the comments in this thread so this might have already been brought up but if it has not please explain why you are looking for partners now.  The only comment i glanced at said you and your previous partner had a 50/50 split which would leave you with over 100k.  What happened between then and now?  How was all this money spent or lost? How did you come to the point of needing a new investor? If you are showing that kind of a return why would the previous investor stop or leave?  If you had an agreed on a certain amount of money to be paid back to the investor and then the deal was over i revert back to my previous question, why do you need more money now?
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May 06, 2014, 12:24:35 PM
#13

So why not give your ID out publicly?  Why would you want to hide such a thing?

I've seen 100s of stakes, staked dozens myself, and have yet to ever see such a thing.


I dont like to trow my nick on forums publicly, if you are intrested i can PM you my stars nick.
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May 06, 2014, 12:13:18 PM
#12

So why not give your ID out publicly?  Why would you want to hide such a thing?

I've seen 100s of stakes, staked dozens myself, and have yet to ever see such a thing.
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May 06, 2014, 12:08:49 PM
#11
If anyone is not familiar with Pokerstars, you can find player in search and see the player is playing. So there will be tons of sweating if player is on a final tables. But you do need an account to login to find the player you wish to watch. Without logins you can download the software and have to search it manualy  Smiley
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May 06, 2014, 11:48:55 AM
#10
What I find weird about this is why would you go to a bitcoin site to try to get "investors"?  BTC is the land of the scammers.  Couldn't you just post at a poker forum, or investment forum, and then you wouldn't have to do the BTC conversion, etc.?  Sounds like it's just another area where it gives you wiggle room so you can so a little more skimming off the BTC price and conversions.

Yes i could, but i'm hooked up on btc community. I love bitcoins and see a great future in it. I just want roll in someway so i tho this might be a good idea.

The marketprice at buyin btc is around 5% but ofcourse we want to do without vig. So if any investors know or can get without vigs then it would be better for us all. Also dont forget we get 5% extra if we trade for fiat.

There is no wiggles, everything is transparant. You can ask anytime for an "history audits" i will send it in 24 hours. I will make trades trough a "hsnl xfer thread: for active/reputable hsnl community members only" that buy and sell btc trough my pokerstars account. So any transfer in and out its shown in the audits.
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May 06, 2014, 11:25:06 AM
#9
What I find weird about this is why would you go to a bitcoin site to try to get "investors"?  BTC is the land of the scammers.  Couldn't you just post at a poker forum, or investment forum, and then you wouldn't have to do the BTC conversion, etc.?  Sounds like it's just another area where it gives you wiggle room so you can so a little more skimming off the BTC price and conversions.
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May 06, 2014, 10:32:45 AM
#8
Well forgive me if i am asking too much but potential investors need to have it all at hand. How much did your investor of 2 years invest, earn and why did he terminate the contract you had with him. and do you yourself posess this kind of money(I am asking because investors need to be sure you wont run).

I have quit both of them to get a better cut in the years. My first investor i had 50/50 on profits cuts and bonus was also 50/50. I left to my last investor that gave me 60/40 on profits and 70/30 on bonus. Now i want to have 100% bonus on my own.

For money that i made for them i keep it private, they all up. If you have more questions you can private message me or some chat on skype

I understand investors about worry about i run with the money. Im active member on the poker community. I have a profile on a poker forum with reference. Im looking for a long term investor that suits me. I can show proof im a legit person that want to make money for both ways
So you're greedy? To start, 60/40 cut, unless your the god of poker or isildur, no one would take that cut for the risk involved. Jesus christ. Second, being that you're greedy and all, if you won big I'm sure you'd find some way to get an attourney to get you out of paying the 40% or you will downplay your profits. You take in $2000 one day and report $1500. Third, you are someone posting up stats of anyone, could be my best friend's mother's poker statistics right there. 4th, this is bitcoin, land of scammers I'm sure you are aware. 5th, DONT INVEST HERE PEOPLE. If you want to make a donation to someone why not give to an actual charity and not a scammer or one hell of a greedy person?

I understand bitcoin world scammers Smiley

NO im not isildur but i play low and mid stakes what i beat. If u want prove i can send u 1 cent to your pokerstars account then u do the research if im legit or not oke Smiley

Players on pokerstars we have history audits. Every transaction is transparant, what comes in and out and what games is played. So there no such thing as keep money for myself
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May 06, 2014, 10:20:41 AM
#7
Well forgive me if i am asking too much but potential investors need to have it all at hand. How much did your investor of 2 years invest, earn and why did he terminate the contract you had with him. and do you yourself posess this kind of money(I am asking because investors need to be sure you wont run).

I have quit both of them to get a better cut in the years. My first investor i had 50/50 on profits cuts and bonus was also 50/50. I left to my last investor that gave me 60/40 on profits and 70/30 on bonus. Now i want to have 100% bonus on my own.

For money that i made for them i keep it private, they all up. If you have more questions you can private message me or some chat on skype

I understand investors about worry about i run with the money. Im active member on the poker community. I have a profile on a poker forum with reference. Im looking for a long term investor that suits me. I can show proof im a legit person that want to make money for both ways
So you're greedy? To start, 60/40 cut, unless your the god of poker or isildur, no one would take that cut for the risk involved. Jesus christ. Second, being that you're greedy and all, if you won big I'm sure you'd find some way to get an attourney to get you out of paying the 40% or you will downplay your profits. You take in $2000 one day and report $1500. Third, you are someone posting up stats of anyone, could be my best friend's mother's poker statistics right there. 4th, this is bitcoin, land of scammers I'm sure you are aware. 5th, DONT INVEST HERE PEOPLE. If you want to make a donation to someone why not give to an actual charity and not a scammer or one hell of a greedy person?
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May 06, 2014, 10:17:49 AM
#6
Here is some info how poker staking works with "make up"

http://pokerstakes.com/articles/what-is-makeup-staking
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May 06, 2014, 10:05:35 AM
#5
Well forgive me if i am asking too much but potential investors need to have it all at hand. How much did your investor of 2 years invest, earn and why did he terminate the contract you had with him. and do you yourself posess this kind of money(I am asking because investors need to be sure you wont run).

I have quit both of them to get a better cut in the years. My first investor i had 50/50 on profits cuts and bonus was also 50/50. I left to my last investor that gave me 60/40 on profits and 70/30 on bonus. Now i want to have 100% bonus on my own.

For money that i made for them i keep it private, they all up. If you have more questions you can private message me or some chat on skype

I understand investors about worry about i run with the money. Im active member on the poker community. I have a profile on a poker forum with reference. Im looking for a long term investor that suits me. I can show proof im a legit person that want to make money for both ways
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May 06, 2014, 09:52:19 AM
#4
Well forgive me if i am asking too much but potential investors need to have it all at hand. How much did your investor of 2 years invest, earn and why did he terminate the contract you had with him. and do you yourself posess this kind of money(I am asking because investors need to be sure you wont run).
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May 06, 2014, 09:34:03 AM
#3


Which casino will you be using, and since you are doing so much conversions i.e telling us the USD equivalet, are you planning to change to cash then play poker?
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Its the major online poker site Pokerstars.com

For the conversion its smarter to do in batches like 3k each time. Investors send the amount of btc of 3k each time and i convert it to usd. If i lose it we convert another 3k and so on. So investors dont have to send all in once if they think its a big amount. If we make profits on any day i will convert in btc. I can do trade usd for btc with 5% bitstamp. 5% is the main vig these days for buyin btc. Buy back btc means we have to pay 5% vig. Or you can open a pokerstars account i can send without cost to your account in usd.

Edit: For example: if investor send 3k i lose, investor send another 3k. Means i have received total of 6k and we are down 3k. We only do profits if we are above 6k. We can do profits cut any time when we are up money.
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May 06, 2014, 09:23:22 AM
#2
Hello gamblers,

I'm looking to raise 60 btc to started to play online poker on pokerstars. I was currently under an investor for 2 years and before that another 2 years for another investor but it both ended. Now seeking in the bitcoin world for a open mind investor that knows to handle poker variance.

Why raise 60 btc, thats rougly $ 26.000 usd today? I need a sercurity if i go on a downswing we can make it back later on the longrun. If you a familiar with poker variance it can be nasty but eventually i will come out of the downswing and make money.
If we had less funds and we go down on a downswing and being broke, means we can't make it back. Thats why it's important to have enough funds to win it back. The more funding the investor has the better it is for the investor.

I'm very compentent what i'm doing and i don't play high games very much. My orginal stakes are low and mid stakes up to $75 buy ins daily with 1 game of $109 and weekends up to 2 games of $215 for majors games as shots.

I'm looking for the same deal like my previous investor with 60/40 profit cut in my favor and any bonus money related it will be mine so i can provide food, rent etc that is not coming from the investors funds. I hope to looking for 1 investor that make life easier for me to update daily sessions, perhaps more investors is possible like open an groupchat on skype and do my updates there.

My average game per month is around 1000 games for tournaments and sit and go's.

I'm a regular on Pokerstars and my previous investor are well known in the poker community. For more info about my nickname I will disclose my nickname if you are interested i will PM you.

Feel free to ask questions Smiley

Here are my stats on Pokerstars




Which casino will you be using, and since you are doing so much conversions i.e telling us the USD equivalet, are you planning to change to cash then play poker?
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May 06, 2014, 08:46:13 AM
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Hello gamblers,

EDIT: will lock this thread, mod can delete if they want

will search on a poker forum sinds this isnt working Smiley




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