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February 05, 2015, 04:50:20 PM
#39
I'm glad to hear you worked it out with them. I also worked with them recently on an issue I experienced and they went above and beyond expectations in working with them.

Keep in mind how awesome this book has been with customer service next time, they deserve a lot of props. I've moved most of my business to them from traditional books.
legendary
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January 31, 2015, 04:29:17 AM
#38
almost certain he would have to publicly ask us to post his slips

but if he ask us to,, we might be able to...im not sure about that slippery slope, i will ask support about it..

all  accounts are protected with privacy unless they publicly request us to show their dirty laundry..

would be a quick way to end this drama imho

But im just a poker player, dont know the protocol for such a request actually

Just an old man thinking out loud

~~plo8

i can tell u thats bs because betcoin let people into my account when i told them not too.
newbie
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January 31, 2015, 01:02:20 AM
#37
almost certain he would have to publicly ask us to post his slips

but if he ask us to,, we might be able to...im not sure about that slippery slope, i will ask support about it..

all  accounts are protected with privacy unless they publicly request us to show their dirty laundry..

would be a quick way to end this drama imho

But im just a poker player, dont know the protocol for such a request actually

Just an old man thinking out loud

~~plo8
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January 31, 2015, 12:47:25 AM
#36
DUDE you are such a moron, look at the FING TIME STAMPS THEY ARE FROM LAST NIGHT

DUDE LOOK AT WHAT YOU POSTED, IT DONT ADD TO NEAR 10 BTC.

POST THE BETS THEY ARE REFERRING TO CLOWN OR STFU.
legendary
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January 31, 2015, 12:29:00 AM
#35
I cant look at my records because I am blocked from the site. They should have all that information, and when they do a review, and they can't provide this information it's gonna look very very bad. And so will you bud. You don't know me, I have used that site many times without cheating or anything else. You are looking like a fool defending this casino right now. I have provided screenshots and logs, what have they provided? Think about that.

i have problems with betcoins support it sucks lol

anyways they should post your bet slips here so we can see
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January 31, 2015, 12:20:28 AM
#34
I cant look at my records because I am blocked from the site. They should have all that information, and when they do a review, and they can't provide this information it's gonna look very very bad. And so will you bud. You don't know me, I have used that site many times without cheating or anything else. You are looking like a fool defending this casino right now. I have provided screenshots and logs, what have they provided? Think about that.

You provided old bets that are not even relevent to this.

And no, I won't look like a fool.  I have been with them since they opened.  They are legit.  You got caught.  Good bye, and good riddance.
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January 30, 2015, 11:59:01 PM
#33
You bet games that were over.

End of story.

If you honestly didnt know they were over, then you probably shouldn't be beting sports anyways.

Good day


STFU, PROVE IT.

I don't have to, you do.
Maybe you should keep a record of your bets.

Plus, I fully trust this site, in my exp. the only people tht bash it are the poker cheats and the scammers like yourself.

GFY
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January 30, 2015, 11:53:16 PM
#32
You bet games that were over.

End of story.

If you honestly didnt know they were over, then you probably shouldn't be beting sports anyways.

Good day
newbie
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January 30, 2015, 10:58:21 PM
#31
my username is wstubble

I do apologize ..staff informed me you are not Jonny, but a different player with identical exploitation of the beta sports
however the fact remains What you have done is not gonna get you paid

6 of the 8 players who spotted the glitch reported it ......... 2 cheated it

but i do indeed apologize for calling you Jonny

there is that one redeeming thing, you are not Jonny, (you are only behaving like him)

That's the best i can do for an apologize to someone who would take advantage of our site.

Your case will be studied and if you are innocent, i will make a truly better apology, I just have an extremely low tolerance for cheats.

hmmm how do i say this nicely..... it pisses me off ....and on top of the exploit they go to forums and cry foul.... it pisses me off.... and they dont man up ....it pisses me off..... but hey it is all part gambling ... even the best of people will cheat when it seems easy... I love Betcoin as if it were my only child .....so how do i say this nicely ? 

oh yea ..i remember now ................IT PISSES ME OFF !!!

good luck, sincerely

~~plo8


I will now butt out of this thread... i have had my say

newbie
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January 30, 2015, 09:55:45 PM
#30
oh well then forgive meeeeeeee,...it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck i just assumed it was a duck

For Gods sake tell me there is not a doppelganger ...lol

One Jonny is more than i can handle.

professional scammers are very resourceful

Go ahead and post it...

Meanwhile rest assured that the staff at Betcoin will be diligent in their research.
I am not staff, I am however in touch with then daily, and also have a picture of Jonny
from a previous scam attempt..



I doubt that a picture will work, but hey give it a try.

I could be wrong there is that ~~ possibility, however the M.O. is identical. the issue is identical and the drama is identical

please disclose your user/screename at Betcoin and i will consider an apology, there was that one time i thought perhaps I  was wrong about Jonny...but it turns out i was mistaken about that

~~plo8








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January 30, 2015, 09:05:08 PM
#29
Ah, had no idea this was Jonny.. Now it really seems he is trying to deceive by using multiple accounts.
newbie
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January 30, 2015, 08:59:00 PM
#28
PS, thank you to the players who call BS on this "jonnydrama"

We have a wonderful community of players, who are very happy at Betcoin..
Betcoin's phenomenal growth is because of you, our players!!!

Thank YOU


~~plo8

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January 30, 2015, 08:49:25 PM
#27
 Does the name Dpad mean anything to anyone in poker forums  ?? unfortunately your reputation proceeds you jonnyrockets

I told you earlier today when ya begged my help this was not the proper path to get resolution to your problem
when you attempted to threaten with posts of forums complaints...

Your Karma is catching up to you

I told you the following today:

Your history seems to be coming up to bite you in the ass....and if you threatend Thomas ...that ***** you bad,  he is the big cheese .... so if you went off on him like you tend to do..your ******
as for threatening with forum posts jonny ... that will only piss them off, and no one gives you credit on fourms anyways
Dont be immature and dont threaten them or there will be zero chance of me being able to help you

so now we are at that zero chance i told you would happen:

I will not be helping you further with this issue and i see now that removing your block from my Skype was a mistake
trying to help you is like trying to pet a rattlesnake

Don't waste your time asking me to reconsider, you have certainly wasted mine.

Betcoin staff is very generous and always MORE than fair as thousands of players will confirm. And again as i told you YOU lack Creditability in the forums to begin with.. I am personally glad they have banned you, you have been nothing but drama from day one Jonnyrockets/dpad/jhgy/ and the many more names you go by.. if you try to create any account on Betcoin from this day forward i will ask them to seize your funds entirely (for multi-accounting)

~~plo8
 
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January 30, 2015, 08:01:13 PM
#26
I got all the answers I needed and I believe so did everyone else. I guess yeah I wouldn't realize too that there is a glitch when livetennis is showing results already and you are still capable of placing LIVE BETS with your bookie. Wasted too much time on this already. Good luck champ, hopefully you learned your lesson.

SMG
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January 30, 2015, 07:13:04 PM
#25
You are saying my bet to pick Djokovich to win the game last night was a CHEATED bet AFTER the match was over Or other bets I made and lost for sets? 2nd of all I did not bet sports their at all. The only reason why I went there was because they had live betting and Nitrogensports does not. (IF you want I will show you my betting history there to prove that is really the only place I like to sports bet) I made some bets, I won some I lost some. I had seriously no clue that there was any sort of glitch there and no one told me that there was a "new" book. My last login to the site was on Jan 15th... I only played there at the casino for blackjack and some slots. So the people at BetCoin are blaming me for their glitches and they took my deposit and winnings. How is this a good book right now?

I am not trying to scam but wouldn't you be pissed off if you thought you had 10 BTCs and then poof they have to "review it" because of something you know nothing about.

Are you trying to say that you are such a moron who doesn't figure out that betting on a game or outcome that has ALREADY HAPPENED and is still available in the book is a glitch?

Thanks for finally letting us know from your own mouth that it was indeed LIVE BETTING.

Stupid thread.

SMG
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January 30, 2015, 07:09:13 PM
#24
Anyways, I just wanted to vent, I will wait for them to complete their review tomorrow. I don't hate them just want to resolve this situation and still be able to use their site with no glitches since I do enjoy their casinos a lot.


It's not wise to vent prior to letting them review to see if they did indeed have issues on their side and if the bets were placed after they transpired or not. I reached out to them via email a little bit ago, after I first saw this thread to see if the bugs they had were related at all to my bets.

Their business is dependent upon trust, and posting a message that they are not paying up was an obvious attempt by you to try and gain leverage on the situation, and frankly, I wouldn't want a customer that overreacted like that either, regardless of the business type. Cooler heads prevail.
newbie
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January 30, 2015, 06:49:20 PM
#23
While I cannot speak to the legitimacy of this person's bets, I can speak to the fairness and trustworthiness of Betcoin.ag.

I will also go on to state that I personally tested their beta site and brought up some issues that I noticed, but those bet types were rolled out to the live site last night as well.

I thought I must have been missing something obvious, as many of the live bets offered, simply did not make sense. I've reached out to discuss this with them, as I won a lot last night with some attractive odds.

Betcoin.ag does not deserve this thread, especially if it was a mistake. A book is only as good as their last payout in my eyes, however I hold this book at the top of my list for honesty to date. Track record is all we can go on in this realm, and they are top notch.




SO you won a ton but are they accusing you and banning your account? I just think it is bullshit I am getting punished, I was happy as hell I won. and they then said I was sketchy because I wanted my winnings, when I had done that 6 previous times but just for lower amounts so it was "ok"
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January 30, 2015, 06:46:30 PM
#22
Look, if there was some sort of glitch or what not PLEASE share that information and give me proof. How the hell would you know if they are not legit or not? Share with me the information that says I CHEATED case closed. I did not cheat though, and this is bullshit. "We believe you, to 24 hour review, now your account is banned you cant get any more information and YOU CHEATED!!!!" - BetCoin customer support.

Show your bets.  You know, the ones you placed after the games were over.  The ones you increased your bet size on and refuse to show.  Yea....THOSE bets.
hero member
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January 30, 2015, 06:45:52 PM
#21
While I cannot speak to the legitimacy of this person's bets, I can speak to the fairness and trustworthiness of Betcoin.ag.

I will also go on to state that I personally tested their beta site and brought up some issues that I noticed, but those bet types were rolled out to the live site last night as well.

I thought I must have been missing something obvious, as many of the live bets offered, simply did not make sense. I've reached out to discuss this with them, as I won a lot last night with some attractive odds.

Betcoin.ag does not deserve this thread, especially if it was a mistake. A book is only as good as their last payout in my eyes, however I hold this book at the top of my list for honesty to date. Track record is all we can go on in this realm, and they are top notch.

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January 30, 2015, 06:45:23 PM
#20
imo they should atleast allow him to access his acc to take some ss totaling up his 10btc claims...rushing to ban him ain't the best choice at the moment.
newbie
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January 30, 2015, 06:43:14 PM
#19
Yada yada yada...

Close this thread.
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January 30, 2015, 06:37:39 PM
#18
On the other hand, banning him is a retarded move from a bookie. They should just suck it up and admit that the bug was their fault, and not punish players who would obviously try and take advantage of it.
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January 30, 2015, 06:36:15 PM
#17
So, you didnt notice that the sportsbook look completely xhanged?  It was red, then the new one is much more modern, with NO RED at all?  Really?  

Also, the bets you showed are not adding to anywhere close to 10btc....you left off the main bets.

Story is not believeable, plus I know people there that reported the issue, and were rewarded for reporting the issues.  You missed that train, you tried to scam them by placing late bets or bets when games were over.  Make better decisions in life.  This company is not a scam by far.  They reward their players above and beyond when legit things happen.  

Trust me, I have been there.  They aren't going to screw you over 10 btc.  Make better decisions.
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January 30, 2015, 06:35:09 PM
#16
I think you conveniently took the pictures of the bets you probably did not "hustle" on. And I say probably because I don't believe in you. The fact that you changed up your betting patterns the day there was a new release with a bug and end up banking a ton - simply does scream exploit.

The fact how you were dealing with the matter and telling us how you didn't know there was a new book after betting there constantly and withdrawing does not add up either. YOU DID NOT NOTICE THE WHOLE INTERFACE EFFING CHANGED UP? YEAH RIGHT?! WHO ARE YOU FOOLING SIR.

You are simply salty that you got slapped on your wrist and on top of that thrown out from a good place. If you are lucky you might get your account back, because Betcoin support is cool like that. But I sure hope that your exploiting ass stays banned.

SMG
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January 30, 2015, 06:33:18 PM
#15
Pretty obvious that his winnings are far from being legit, its hillarious how he tries to tries that persuade everyone that if the bet was accepted than it automaticly means he should be payed no matter what.
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January 30, 2015, 06:22:12 PM
#14
By the way, this site pays out large amounts daily.  37 btc, had a guy win a ton in the first WPN 5k Cage, he was paid out a crap ton of btc (~75 btc I think?)

Your 10 btc is nothing, this site is a partner of WPN (A large poker company that owns Americas Card Room, Black Chip Poker, True Poker, etc), and is the number 2 or 3 poker room in the USA.

You got caught manipulating. Funny thing is if you just would have not been a douche, and told them, they probably would have rewarded you for helping them fix it. 
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January 30, 2015, 06:19:34 PM
#13
hot chick on the left  Grin
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January 30, 2015, 06:19:16 PM
#12
Show the 10btc winnings, not the old ones.

I GUARANTEE that the bets were made either after games completed, or right before they ended and the result was assured. 

There are timestamps on the times you made your bets.  Scared to show those?
newbie
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January 30, 2015, 06:13:27 PM
#11
Why did you choose to only post half of your history? And when I simply add up your WINs not taking into consideration the losses I am getting up to 1.82BTC

So where did the remaining 8.18 come from? Did you forget how you post a picture of 10BTC withdrawal?

SMG
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January 30, 2015, 06:06:06 PM
#10
What did I say that brought up major red flags? I just asked for my winnings, they have now blocked my account and called me a cheater.... I did nothing wrong they wont show me proof or anything.

You are a cheater otherwise you wouldn't have started a thread in 4 hours. Nice scam you are trying to pull.

Did you bet games that were either already over, or very close to over?  I have a feeling you probably did.

Just so everyone hears both sides of the story here it goes.Betcoin was testing a new sportsbook page and there was a glitch that they found out by honest players letting them know.The glitch was live sports betting. The games that were already over were allowing players too still bet on them.So betcoin asked for players to not use this sports book till they fixed this.Well wstubble rushed in and made several big bets which were no good.So he tried to exploit the books in which why he is having this problem ...Just figured both sides of the story need heard!!!!

Yes, there was a bug with new sports book. A few players exploited it and admitted to it. Wstubble came in chat accusing of being robbed and mistreated, tried to wiggle his way around when we were finding out how did he win and if it was coming from new books.

Just another naughty boy got a slap on his wrist and now trying to do some negative SEO.

wow that sucks buddy... hope they resolve it soon..

The OP cheated, he is not going to get paid for bets he made on games that were over.

We want to thank everyone for stating the truth here.  As was stated we launched a new sportsbook that had an error that was exploited.  We questioned two players and they immediately owned up to it and then let us know about other players.  We have since switched back to the old sportsbook that works perfectly until this is resolved.  

When a player turns 0.4 btc into 10 btc with wagers over 0.5 btc when they were never wagering over 0.01 btc within 24 hours by winning 99% of his wagers and then demands an immediate withdrawal of 10 btc as this player did, we will of course review the matter.  

We will always treat our players right and we enjoy paying out our big winners.  Thank you very much.  

We want to thank everyone for playing with us and we will continue to innovate to make things bigger and better for you.  Unfortunately the first launch may not always be perfect, but its so awesome to see that we have some great players with us and we appreciate you very much!
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January 30, 2015, 06:03:28 PM
#9
wow that sucks buddy... hope they resolve it soon..

The OP cheated, he is not going to get paid for bets he made on games that were over.
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January 30, 2015, 05:57:28 PM
#8
wow that sucks buddy... hope they resolve it soon..
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January 30, 2015, 05:57:22 PM
#7
Yes, there was a bug with new sports book. A few players exploited it and admitted to it. Wstubble came in chat accusing of being robbed and mistreated, tried to wiggle his way around when we were finding out how did he win and if it was coming from new books.

Just another naughty boy got a slap on his wrist and now trying to do some negative SEO.
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January 30, 2015, 05:56:37 PM
#6
Just so everyone hears both sides of the story here it goes.Betcoin was testing a new sportsbook page and there was a glitch that they found out by honest players letting them know.The glitch was live sports betting. The games that were already over were allowing players too still bet on them.So betcoin asked for players to not use this sports book till they fixed this.Well wstubble rushed in and made several big bets which were no good.So he tried to exploit the books in which why he is having this problem ...Just figured both sides of the story need heard!!!!
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January 30, 2015, 05:53:26 PM
#5
Did you bet games that were either already over, or very close to over?  I have a feeling you probably did.
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January 30, 2015, 05:52:33 PM
#4
What did I say that brought up major red flags? I just asked for my winnings, they have now blocked my account and called me a cheater.... I did nothing wrong they wont show me proof or anything.

You are a cheater otherwise you wouldn't have started a thread in 4 hours. Nice scam you are trying to pull.
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January 30, 2015, 05:50:37 PM
#3
Wow.
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January 30, 2015, 05:23:25 PM
#2
Thomas James
Based on your comments and activities there are major red flags that need to be reviewed on your account.

That doesn't sound a right way to respond to customers.

You should  take all screenshots and post them here to support your claim. If they do come out with something why they suspected your account, they will probably post too.

Hope you get the matter solved.
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January 30, 2015, 05:05:33 PM
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