Topic: Democrats launch 'Crypto for Harris' campaign to counter Trump’s industry appeal (Read 504 times)

They all changed or will change because Bitcoin is strong, grows up impressively and becomes unbeaten to change them. Nations have to change if they don't want their nations miss a great opportunity in human civilization.

If you are a government of a nation, you can be supportive- or anti-Bitcoin, but if this policy like anti-Bitcoin damages your national chance to join an opportunistic trend globally, you are a bad government. Next election, you will lose votes and will be kicked out of powerful position in your nation. So parties, politicians have to change their political and governance approaches.

Huh? What are you talking about? Who is "they"?

No they do not want to end this, they want to control this. However, they cannot end or control the cryptospace in they method of their wants and needs. They cannot do this inside they're jurisdiction and they certainly cannot end this outside of their jurisdiction heheheh.

Also under the previous Trump administration, they were also anticrypto. Agreed to your argument that despite Trump being anticrypto, bitcoin also pumped very quick and very high similar to the Biden administration hehehehehhhe. The democrats cannot stop this, however, the grandmas Warren, Yellen and uncle Gary should quite certainly support this.

So they secretly want to end crypto? Is this the latest conspiracy theory you have been told to believe by the Republicans?

It sure is strange that in the last four years they haven't ended crypto, that the US is the leading country for crypto mining, crypto is bigger than ever here, that there are ETFs and other new financial products, and that... Bitcoin went up 500%. All under this supposedly evil regime that secretly hates crypto even though they don't publicly admit it or follow through with actual actions that negatively effect the market.

People who want Trump to be president will use crypto (and basically anything else they can think of) as an excuse to vote for Trump, and an excuse to campaign for Trump here and elsewhere.

As for who wants Trump to be president and who doesn't here, I suspect that it's roughly the same as the US at large, e.g. 50/50. Obviously, based on your childish slurs, you are a Trump supporter. But not all Americans are.

Hehehe you are headshaking if your argument is the Biden administration's operation chokepoint and other anticrypto agendas under him never occurred because your reason is the price of bitcoin 500%. Do you reckon the people who read your posts will trust these arguments?

Grandma Yellen, grandma Warren, uncle Gary and the other democrats are working for their rulers from Wall Street and Main Street. They want to regulate the cryptospace for the protection the consumers. This is the argument, correct? Everyone does not believe this anymore heheheheheheeee.

there has been large amount of crypto supporter that willing to put their vote if any party is supporting BTC, i've seen so many especially in twitter that actually care about which candidate are pro-bitcoin but honestly don't really know the real amount.
since frankly speaking, anyone can voice their opinion on twitter but not everyone is eligible voter . so it might be an illusion.

but overall, I think bitcoin will only have win from this, getting exposure from both party seems like a good idea for bitcoin in the long run, it kinda gives the vibe bitcoin is already known by everyone.

I'm still trying to figure how, under a supposedly "anticrypto agenda", Bitcoin went up 500% under Biden.

I think a better explanation is that these billionaire Bitcoin whales want Trump to win for their own ideological reasons (viz. anti-abortion or racism), and use crypto as an excuse.

This becomes very apparent whenever Harris says something pro-crypto then it must be a lie, but whenever Trump says, well, anything, it must be because he's going to make the price of Bitcoin go up somehow.

Nobody who takes business in the USA seriously wants to see Trump's gigantic tariffs that will slaughter the US economy and drive the price of business components through the roof, leading to a massive economic downturn. The last time the US went nativist and imposed massive tariffs like this the US went into a deep depression that we didn't emerge from until we entered a war that claimed the lives of 75 million people worldwide.

These billionaires are already rich and don't care what happens to the US economy. People like Elon Musk aren't in it for the money at their level, they are in it for the power (and they will learn, as the Russian oligarchs under Putin learned, that their billions mean nothing when the dictator controls the army and the police).

News update on crypto for harris campaign.

Kamala's promise in supporting the cryptospace if she has the victory is certainly optimistic, however, it appears that some of the executives of some companies in the cryptospace are quite skeptical. According to a founder of a crypto investment firm, these are only hollow words.

It appears that this skepticism might be caused by the Biden administration's anticrypto agenda. It might be difficult for her to tell the people that she will do better than the present administration because she is one of the leaders of the present administration.



Harris, the Democratic nominee for president, just name-dropped crypto for the second time this week.

At a campaign event In Pennsylvania on Wednesday, the vice president said the US should become “dominant” in blockchain, as well as other technologies such as artificial intelligence and quantum computing.

The shout-out is striking given the crackdown the Biden Administration has pursued in the industry over the last three years.

Indeed, one of the main reasons why Coinbase, Kraken, the Winklevoss twins and other crypto mavens have raised millions for pro-crypto candidates is to rebuff the efforts of Gary Gensler, the chair of the US Securities and Exchange Commission, and other Biden appointees.

Even though Harris is suddenly making nice with crypto, industry insiders aren’t convinced she will be any better for the industry.

“Hollow words,” Jon Charbonneau, co-founder of crypto investment firm DBA, said on X. “Same stuff Biden said in 2022.”

Charbonneau was referring to the Biden administration’s executive order on ensuring the responsible development of digital assets, which promised to “support technological advances that promote responsible development and use of digital assets.”

‘It’s OK to vote for Kamala, but please don’t pretend she’s pro-crypto.’
—  Hasu

Read in full https://www.dlnews.com/articles/people-culture/crypto-industry-dismisses-kamala-harris-blockchain-comments/

These people who care are the donators hehehe. They need their bets to win the election for them to have direct political connection and use this for their corporate interests. This has been a type of game our rulers play and it appears there are executives in the cryptospace that are beginning to play a similar game.

Also, these donators do not care who will be the better candidate because honestly their interests is not for the people and this is also not for the country. This is for themselves.

There are people in this forum who are arguing for their candidate, however, the next administration Trump or Kamala will be something similar to the administrations before them heheheheh.

Also about whole isolation and all that, they just don't want to help Ukraine, and they do want to continue helping Israel, which means that they are not really isolating themselves, they just want to help the ones they want to help but not to help ones they don't want to help.

If it was bombing some middle east nation, I am sure that trump supporters will love it, but when it comes to helping out Europe, they do not like that idea one bit. I feel like it is not always clear what they are talking about, like for example if it is about preserving some good natural place, like some park, some canyon whatever, they are all about it and love to do that, but if it is about installing solar panels? They are anti-environment.

So they do not look at a subject and have one idea about everything, they take it subject by subject, and decide on that. Abortion is one thing they are certain about though, they hate it and that is a platform for sure, and that is going to be a tough deal to handle. Because between borders issue and abortion issue, we are going to see a lot of changes in this, and Kamala vs Trump is based on this two issue mainly, not crypto, not anything else, just abortion and border control.

I don't trust Trump because he is, objectively, a criminal. As in, he has been convicted of many crimes and is currently on trial for many more. This is not a "partisan" statement, it's just a fact.


Republicans seem to want people to forget that Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden. That is what Biden "did" to crypto.


You obviously don't live in the USA nor do you care what happens to us here. Trump is promising to make major changes to life here in the USA, which will affect every resident here.

Cryptocurrencies are legal in the USA and there are no meaningful restrictions here: the US is the top country for mining, and by far the top country for trade. There are absolutely no plans, by anybody here, to restrict cryptos, and there is a huge political lobby now that influences both parties to keep it that way forever.

The Republican scare-mongering over Bitcoin is pretty weak when... Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden. You don't have to guess what will happen since we already know.

Now they became crypto friendly when they need the vote of people?

People didn't forget about what Biden and his camp did to crypto. For sure that there's no people in right mind who use crypto will fall in their trap and provably they use that crypto for Harris or anything related to word like that just to trick people and also to possible get their votes.

For sure people will vote  on Trump since aside from he is more lesser evil among those candidate for sure he would never put any heavy restriction towards the usage or circulation of crypto in their country.

You speak like you are Harris or you are part of her campaign team. Don't put your trust in a politician because you don't like her opponent. Politicians are unpredictable, never trust them.


The American presidential elections will not be determined to a large extent by crypto policies. There are other more important things Americans are considering.  I don't know the statistics of people who might change their choice because of the crypto stance of the candidate. Nevertheless, I think they will not be too much but in elections, one vote is very important. This is just the beginning of the integration of crypto into American politics. As the sector keeps gaining more acceptance, crypto might also become a headline campaign issue in the next elections in four years. Maybe we might also begin to see artificial intelligence becoming another issue of concern in US politics.

For a moment I pondered whether we are happy with bitcoin involvement in the political realm where they themselves only use the crypto community voice to gain support solely for their personal interests and groups in parliament. This has indeed happened and will continue until November, will the community voice after this election get space to submit ideas to politicians? There are always 2 sides that bind between being good news or vice versa. In the US the crypto community situation is divided because 2 candidates are trying to carry the same concept in treating Bitcoin.

I also support Trump but to be honest, we have a feeling Trump is friendly and will be more open to bitcoin since he has been actively publicly supporting bitcoin since the first days of the election campaign. That has unintentionally created positive impacts on us. Meanwhile, we all know that the Biden administration has not shown any interest in cryptocurrency during its four years in office, and the Democratic Party's election campaign has not mentioned cryptocurrency either. It seems they are only now realizing the importance of cryptocurrency and starting the race with Trump. While it's not too late, let's see what they can do to regain the trust of crypto investors.

In short, both of them are just taking advantage of cryptocurrencies because that is the nature of politicians, so no matter who you vote for, never put all your trust in them, they can break their promises and forget what they promise us.

Trump's supporters don't merely focus on abortion. It's also about anti-migration approach, isolationist foreign policy approach, anti-environmental approach. People who are planning to vote for Trump will not choose Harris, even if she promises a crypto-friendly future for the US. But it's still good that Democrats will try to help Harris out by organizing something pro-crypto in the near future. It might sway the voters who don't want to vote for Trump but genuinely care about cryptos.
It will be good to make it look like Bitcoin is not a partisan issue, so that people can focus on other things when making their voting decisions.

Tell that to the billionaire Bitcoin whales giving Trump hundreds of millions of dollars. They sure think that American politics can influence the price of Bitcoin...

I point out that Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden in order to discredit the ridiculous and unsupported (and blatantly partisan) notion that "Democrats hate crypto". This doesn't mean Biden directly caused it to happen, but it's impossible to believe that Democrats are the enemy / Republicans are the friend and believe there is absolutely no correlation between the US president and the price of Bitcoin.

If you are going make the positive assertion that Trump will make Bitcoin go up in price, then Biden's record is a clear refutation of that assertion. If you make the positive assertion that Biden and the Democrats have been "bad for Bitcoin", then... Biden's record is a clear refutation of that assertion.

I just talked about a similar discussion in a related topic I contributed now. The fact that these USA politicians are becoming more aware and deliberate about the bitcoin community makes it more interesting to hear. It is also the time that these communities have to negotiate with the candidates over some of their policies and plans they intend to implement when they are finally voted into the government. These bitcoin communities must be bold enough to make these bold steps since their significants in the overall population of the country is becoming more noticeable every day.

Elections will come and pass, but what's important is the roundtable discussions and negotiations with these candidates. Trump have shown a great deal of interest in the bitcoin community and have appealed for their support, Kamala will also do the same at least for their own interests in winning the votes from those boards, now, the people should also organize themselves and show their interests have tete-a-tete conversations and bring in proposals too. I dont know if I'm making enough sense in this though but that's my thoughts on this.

Exactly my point of how stupid that argument really is.  In this sense, we can say that the Chinese Communist Party had the greatest influence on Bitcoin's price.  They were here all along.

Third option: nobody really cares with politicians accepting Bitcoin for donations, for the same reason nobody really cares with politicians accepting money in general for donations.

As far as I know, this campaign was proposed and carried out by a group of Democrats but will not involve Harris, she does not appear to be directly involved in this launching campaign. This is a big problem for the campaign and it will be difficult to attract voters without Harris on board.
According to the announcement that they will hold a discussion next Wednesday, we will wait to see if Harris will appear and declare his support for cryptocurrency like Trump did.

It seems like the Democratic Party is not too interested in cryptocurrency, what they are doing is copying the Republican Party because they fear the votes from the crypto community will go to Trump. Both are just leveraging cryptocurrencies and bitcoin for their own benefit, but this also shows that they are gradually appreciating the cryptocurrency industry and its implications.

they only care about their own interests, no one really cares about bitcoin, so either kamala or trump are just using their political promises to win themselves and their party. but i am more inclined to see that the development of bitcoin will be better if it is in the hands of the republic and trump, even though both are the same, but trump seems to show his sincerity for bitcoin and in his previous administration he was also not too hard on bitcoin; even though he didn't care much about bitcoin before, he is still a good candidate.

It's not: hardly any Americans care about Bitcoin either way, and the ones who do would never prioritize things like abortion over some laws about Bitcoin.

But for politicians, it's all about the campaign donations. A few billionaire Bitcoin whales are dumping giant amounts of money into this election--so far mostly to Republicans. Democrats want in on the action.

And keep in mind that these donors aren't giving money directly to candidates, they are giving money to PACs, and those PACs are buying ads that favor their favored candidates.

But here's the thing: these ads have nothing to do with Bitcoin. Nobody watching these ads would have any idea that it was Bitcoin advocacy that was behind it. The ads just contain bad things about their opponent or good things about their candidate in general. That tells you all you need to know about what these donors think of how much Americans care about Bitcoin.

Not sure that crypto is really important topic for masses to change anything in election

They wanted to bring an end to the disorganized regulations in favor of more organized regulations. Why is that a bad thing? That's probably part of the reason Bitcoin did so well under Biden.

And Bitcoin, being an asset worth over a trillion dollars--mostly owned by Americans--is in fact an issue of national security. As we discussed in another thread here, any major nation-state e.g. Russia or China or Iran could attack Bitcoin by going after the hash rate through force or clandestine means--and it wouldn't be hard to attack the network and make Americans lose billions. So it's quite proper for the US to defend against attacks like this.

Under Biden, Bitcoin was on a bull run and so obviously, regardless of who are going to it that time, we will see a big spike in the price. Not sure how you say that Bitcoin will be fine under the Harris, when in 2022,


https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/biden-administration-to-regulate-bitcoin-as-a-matter-of-national-security:-report

And you can also argue that when Trump peak at the Bitcoin Conference, the price peak at $70,000.

Yes: the group of billionaire Bitcoin whales who have given Trump more money than any other industry has, and a bunch of people here on bitcointalk.org.

Bitcoin will do just fine under Harris, as it has done under Biden. There is a no reason to take a chance on the erratic, senile, deranged Trump who promises to upend the US economy by deporting 5% of our workers and starting a massive new police state to stop the millions of abortions that occur in the US every year.

Oh no, another new thread about Trump 

Does anyone think Biden had any effect on the value of Bitcoin? Or that Trump, or any president, will influence Bitcoin to go to a new 500%

Someone could say that Bitcoin went from $0 to $75k during Putin's time, what is that in percentage? Why the limitation to Trump only?

Hey!! US dude, do you think it is only US making bitcoin to be popular? The way you are emphasizing on this issue is like without US, bitcoin will not be existing again. US is also like other countries that using bitcoin and bitcoin is not like fiat currency that is own by one country and all your assertion on bitcoin rising is false. Biden didn't made bitcoin to hit 500% instead it was individual purchasing power and support of the average investors that made bitcoin to rise up. In bitcoin, only the whales can't use it but it is the combination of the whales and dolphins. Are you also aware that it was the activities of Biden that made this forum to be like this? Op you are campaigning for the wrong way. If you want to campaign for Harris then go to the politics and society board and do the needful and not in the bitcoin board.

I think I already commented on this in another thread.  If you are going to use this argument, it is fair to mention that Bitcoin went up more than 3900% under president Trump and his first term in office.  So, to paraphrase you: There is no objective reason not to support Trump if all you care about is Bitcoin.

Kamala showed her true colours by choosing Waltz over Shapiro because she doesn't want to show support for Israel. That's who she really is, a mediocre politician who will say and do what the polls tell her to. The people's pleaser, as long as they vote for her. She does not support bitcoin, I'm sure of that, simply because she surrounds herself with people like Elizabeth Warren and Brad Sherman. All the anti crypto bills in congress last year were written by Democrats and now a Democratic nominee is suddenly trying to get votes of the crypto community? Please...

So why are they now very vocal about supporting Bitcoin when no one will believe Kamala for that.  Just like their campaign claiming Kamala is Black. If we are to stick to the facts, this is a fact she isn't black.

These are just the same people trying to get votes because it's election time, so they turn to Bitcoin where the voters are already fixed on someone who has been up on the polls since.  People will pick the less evil ones like Trump than Kamala who has been in the party and tried killing Trump.

Again, you want Trump to win because you like Trump, not because of Bitcoin. It's perfectly fine to like Trump if that's your opinion, but you don't get to pretend it's based on a factor that you obviously aren't actually considering.

If Harris wins, will you sell all of your Bitcoin? I seriously doubt it. Indeed, if Harris wins I would expect everybody in this forum including the Trump supporters to... suddenly agree with me that Bitcoin will be just fine under Harris as it has been under Biden.

Believe me, it does matter. Not only for Bitcoin but for the world, as USA makes me think of strong military and strong economy. It would be a shame to see it turn into a socialist state lead from the shadows by people like Sanders or the VP who is known for putting tampons in men's bathrooms. I can already see Kamala meeting with Putin, changing her accent to Eastern EU to look more familiar.
-Zdrastvuj Vladimir, let's discuss this over a bowl of vareniki and a bottle of Stolichnaya!
And it has nothing to do with the fact that Biden begun his term in 2021, less than a year after the halving, which is always the year of the bull market for bitcoin?

The race to the White House is now very interesting. Both parties are now seriously using the crypto industry as a major campaign topic. They now know that the industry is important to their ambition. Donald Trump has already stolen the hearts of a large part of the crypto population due to his glamorous promises. Haris and the Democrats have so much work to do to convince the community that they have a better package for the crypto space. Appointment of some experienced professionals in Harris' advocacy group such as David Plouffe and Gene Sperling is not a bad idea.


Sam Bankman-Fried is a scammer who intentionally stole people's funds and spent it recklessly. Even the most corrupt judge will not acquit him. However, Ross Ulbricht's punishment is too harsh. I think he deserves a second chance or a lesser punishment.

Those campaigning for Trump in the Bitcoin universe here and elsewhere must prove why Trump would be better--and they continue to spread the lie that Biden has been bad for Bitcoin, which is not supported by the facts.

I'm all for the US government letting the crypto market continue to thrive, as it has done over the last four years. I love the idea of all of us not caring who is going to be the next president, when it comes to Bitcoin.

But to hear Trump's supporters here tell it, Bitcoin has been outlawed in the US or something. But Bitcoin is legal to hold and trade in the US, we have thousand of brokers operating here, a huge chunk of mining happens in the US, and most Bitcoin investors are in the US.

And now Democrats are getting overtly on the Bitcoin train--and yet Trump's supporters here can't handle that. That tells me that they support Trump, not Bitcoin.

Based on the momentum right now, it would appear that Harris is on track to win in November. If she does, Bitcoin will continue to do what it has been doing, which has been great over the last four years.




SBF was put in prison under Biden, because Democrats believe in the rule of law, even if it means one of their own donors.

Trump, meanwhile, pardoned several felons--one of whom stole hundreds of millions from the people of Florida--in exchange for campaign donations.

The choice Americans will make in November will be between more criminals like SBF being set free by Trump in exchange for donations, or continued law and order (and a safe environment for consumers to invest in) under Harris.

This is getting ridiculous at this point. Bitcoiners should be involved in politics to an extent but giving this level of influence to politicians puts them on a pedestal and psychologically increases the influence they have.

Went up cause there was a bullrun during his tenure, Bitcoin has gone up over 10,000× before then. And during his tenure there was stricter restrictions on Bitcoin mining and more taxes imposed in addition to other policies.

It looks like everyone suddenly forgot how ex FTX owner Scam Bankman donated a bunch of money to Biden for his democratic party, and other people did the same.
It's not like it's important what politicians we are talking about, most of them are corrupt, they worship money as their god, and they will never do anything good for Bitcoin just because they receive bitcoin donations.

Come out of US brother. There is a much larger world outside of US. Looking at your post it feels, US is the only country responsible for the growth of Bitcoin. Bitcoin has grown due to its own potential and not due to the policies of Biden government. Bitcoin was adopted worldwide and not just in US. So stop thanking that Biden government helped Bitcoin to grow by up to 500%.

But your government is your problem, not mine! Regardless of which party create government in US, Bitcoin will continue to grow. But if US continues the harassment on the crypto users, opportunities will be lost only for US.

Yes, you are. Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden. There is simply no evidence that the Democrats have been "horrible" for crypto.

Don't confuse a few big-business lobbies--who don't have the needs of average Bitcoin consumers in mind--with actual support of Bitcoin. Every big business is going to lobby and spend a lot of money to bribe the government to make their profits a little bigger. That's what we're seeing with a few of these companies supporting Trump with millions of dollars.



Their history? You mean when... Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden? There's no objective reason to support Trump if all you care about is Bitcoin.

Am I incorrect in saying that crypto currency users in US had faced the most horrible time during the democrat rule?

I don't think anyone would believe the democrats when it comes to cryptocurrency! They are just trying to replicate the effort that Donald Trump is putting to get the support of the crypto users. But with their history, I don't think they are going to make any impact.

It's really positive to see that cryptocurrency is going to be one of the decision making factors in November election.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/democrats-launch-crypto-harris-campaign-counter-trumps-industry-appeal

I expect there will be two basic reactions to this:

* For those who only care about Bitcoin, they will welcome this as Bitcoin support becomes bi-partisan and it doesn't matter who gets elected in November.

* For those who want abortion to be illegal in the US, they will say this is "fake" and somehow Harris's support isn't "real"--because they actually don't care about Bitcoin, but instead want Trump for ideological reasons and supposed Bitcoin support was always just an excuse.

Bitcoin went up 500% under president Biden. When you hear that Biden (and now Harris) are "anti-Bitcoin", you are hearing campaign rhetoric invented by the opposing party. There's no reason to believe Bitcoin will not go up another 500% under Harris, and that the Bitcoin universe will be just fine overall, like it has been in the last four years.

The safe bet is to stick with what has worked, not take a chance with a divisive figure who will turn the US economy upside down in his quest to stop abortions and deport immigrants.