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There are no complicated formulas (at least in this simple case) any calculator can easily handle the calculation. The chance of getting such a streak is approximately 1 of 2^⁴⁰, this is one of 1099511627776 Grin

In fact, this event is so unlikely that it shouldn't have happened

Probability is a complex field, the calculations are not wrong however that is only true if you only played 40 times, the more you gamble the higher the probabilities that something that seems extraordinaire happens, for example lets use a simple deck of cards, what are the chances that the first 4 cards I draw are the 4 Aces on the deck? This can be easily calculated as (4/52)*(3/51)*(2/50)*(1/49)=1/270725, so it seems as something very unlikely right? But what if I do this one million times? In theory I should get this result at least 3 times, this is the same reason the martingale system does not work, and even if you did not played long enough to guarantee that result you probably played enough times to make the chances of that result way more likely than the odds you are seeing in that calculation.

You took short distances and everything seems simple here, but at long distances everything is different (just compare the odds that I calculated and the odds in your example - a huge difference).
There is a mathematical formula that shows how many flips of a coin are needed to get a series of N of the same results: 2^N+1 − 2
In my case it would be: 2⁴¹-2 = 2 199 023 255 550
I'm sure I haven't even made one billion bets, let alone trillions and quadrillions Grin

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Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Multiplayer dice? How would that work?

You basically have 2 outcomes in dice, win or lose. And even if two players play the same dice at the same time, each has his own win or lose scenario (provided you don't pick the same number)

Unless if its PvP then this one cant be called dice already because we couldnt see any kind of games to be like this on where players on dice would really trying out to compete to each other.

Dice is against the house type of game and its just really need for you to set those odds or settings then let it roll.You are up against the house and not with other player.

So if he's finding out for some multiplayer then he's isnt really finding out a dice game.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Multiplayer dice? How would that work?

You basically have 2 outcomes in dice, win or lose. And even if two players play the same dice at the same time, each has his own win or lose scenario (provided you don't pick the same number)

I guess he is talking about multiplier. Roll Eyes

It depends on the probability we set before rolling the dice and in specific its about the percentage of winning the game so lower the chances then higher the rewards will be.

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Yes, I recalculated the chances of such an event, and even taking into account the fact that I played huge long game sessions with dice (I tested different strategies), it turned out that this should not have happened. But it happened to me personally and I even took screenshots (unfortunately I cannot find them since it was several years ago).

If an analytic solution to the probabilities of multiplayer gambling is too complex, you can always try a Montecarlo method approach and see the odds on a distribution. Nowadays, even a small phone can make quite a few cals per sec so it should be very difficult even if you want the product to be in real time. There even has to be a tool out there already.

There are no complicated formulas (at least in this simple case) any calculator can easily handle the calculation. The chance of getting such a streak is approximately 1 of 2^⁴⁰, this is one of 1099511627776 Grin

In fact, this event is so unlikely that it shouldn't have happened

Probability is a complex field, the calculations are not wrong however that is only true if you only played 40 times, the more you gamble the higher the probabilities that something that seems extraordinaire happens, for example lets use a simple deck of cards, what are the chances that the first 4 cards I draw are the 4 Aces on the deck? This can be easily calculated as (4/52)*(3/51)*(2/50)*(1/49)=1/270725, so it seems as something very unlikely right? But what if I do this one million times? In theory I should get this result at least 3 times, this is the same reason the martingale system does not work, and even if you did not played long enough to guarantee that result you probably played enough times to make the chances of that result way more likely than the odds you are seeing in that calculation.

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Quote from: paxmao on September 21, 2021, 08:31:01 AM

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Yes, I recalculated the chances of such an event, and even taking into account the fact that I played huge long game sessions with dice (I tested different strategies), it turned out that this should not have happened. But it happened to me personally and I even took screenshots (unfortunately I cannot find them since it was several years ago).

If an analytic solution to the probabilities of multiplayer gambling is too complex, you can always try a Montecarlo method approach and see the odds on a distribution. Nowadays, even a small phone can make quite a few cals per sec so it should be very difficult even if you want the product to be in real time. There even has to be a tool out there already.

There are no complicated formulas (at least in this simple case) any calculator can easily handle the calculation. The chance of getting such a streak is approximately 1 of 2^⁴⁰, this is one of 1099511627776 Grin

In fact, this event is so unlikely that it shouldn't have happened

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my record 40 times in a row <49.5%

Thats so unlikely, it shouldn't ever happen & if calculated using probability theory the odds would be like winning the lottery surely. Thats about 40 coin flips coming up heads, obviously if I was angry about the loss I'd just assume the game broke or was bugged in some way. It is true afaik that computers cannot generate random numbers by themselves, they require to source data from perhaps radioactive decay factors etc. I doubt thats being done for a dice game hence perhaps highly unlikely events. However if it occurs as loss, it might also appear as a win. Anyhow I think I prefer the crash game multiplier over dice, it always appears with bonkers results seems like.

Yes, I recalculated the chances of such an event, and even taking into account the fact that I played huge long game sessions with dice (I tested different strategies), it turned out that this should not have happened. But it happened to me personally and I even took screenshots (unfortunately I cannot find them since it was several years ago).

If an analytic solution to the probabilities of multiplayer gambling is too complex, you can always try a Montecarlo method approach and see the odds on a distribution. Nowadays, even a small phone can make quite a few cals per sec so it should be very difficult even if you want the product to be in real time. There even has to be a tool out there already.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Multiplayer dice? How would that work?

You basically have 2 outcomes in dice, win or lose. And even if two players play the same dice at the same time, each has his own win or lose scenario (provided you don't pick the same number)

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at present, everyone knows about this theory. Hence, you will not be able to use it to increase your chances of winning the dice.

Do you mean that everyone uses similar kind of strategy which might lead to unable to attain what we want, right? I am aware of Pascal in physics but not sure about that you are referring the same personality. It would be highly helpful if you would have linked some resources so that people who love to learn more about these kind of theory may refer further.

Quote from: Smartprofit on September 20, 2021, 06:07:02 AM

The dice game is based solely on the player's luck.

This could be the final conclusion that every gambler needs to have at the end of the day Sad

. Gambling always leave some hope on us like "today is not mine but if I have not tried that then I might have got chances to be a millionaire today" Wink

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Blaise Pascal was primarily a mathematician. Besides the theory of probability, he developed the principles of the calculator and invented the public transport (omnibus). Pascal is a great man. Genius. At the end of his life, he stopped doing scientific research.

He was a very religious person. It was he who formulated the principle of the rationality of faith in God. For the believer, if God exists, the benefits are enormous. He goes to heaven. And if there is no God, then the loss is simply money and time spent on religious rituals.

The theory of probability is currently a generally known theory. All gambling games are initially created taking into account the rules of the mathematical theory of probability. At the same time, the casino's profit is initially included in the gambling game. Therefore, knowledge of probability theory does not give the player an advantage when playing dice.

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Quote from: jostorres on September 20, 2021, 07:58:38 AM

Quote from: Smartprofit on September 20, 2021, 06:07:02 AM

The dice game is based solely on the player's luck.

This could be the final conclusion that every gambler needs to have at the end of the day Sad

. Gambling always leave some hope on us like "today is not mine but if I have not tried that then I might have got chances to be a millionaire today" Wink

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Lol, this sound like a statement that condones losing your gambles. With such mentality, you will continue to gambling everyday, hoping to reach the millionaire you've always wanted to be. And eventually, you become addicted to it and it'll be part of you to gamble daily with the mind that you could have been a millionaire. Gambling shouldn't be frequently unless you have luck a lot(yet, slow down and don't be greedy or you'll turn the luck into bad luck). It should be self-regulated, and well controlled before you become unable to control it.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on September 20, 2021, 06:07:02 AM

at present, everyone knows about this theory. Hence, you will not be able to use it to increase your chances of winning the dice.

Do you mean that everyone uses similar kind of strategy which might lead to unable to attain what we want, right? I am aware of Pascal in physics but not sure about that you are referring the same personality. It would be highly helpful if you would have linked some resources so that people who love to learn more about these kind of theory may refer further.

Quote from: Smartprofit on September 20, 2021, 06:07:02 AM

The dice game is based solely on the player's luck.

This could be the final conclusion that every gambler needs to have at the end of the day Sad

. Gambling always leave some hope on us like "today is not mine but if I have not tried that then I might have got chances to be a millionaire today" Wink

.

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Quote from: Cling18 on September 18, 2021, 02:09:51 AM

As for me, the dice game is just based on pure luck and it isn't like PVP if that's what you're referring to. I've been playing dice for entertainment purposes only because skills couldn't be applied to it. Its rules are simple and aren't complicated so I guess there's no theory that we could apply to it.

At one time, Blaise Pascal developed the mathematical theory of dice.

Blaise Pascal was a contemporary of the Musketeers. He was a guards officer, gambler, drunkard, and duelist. At the same time, he possessed outstanding mathematical abilities. At that time, dice was much more difficult than it is now.

The players made bets among themselves. For example - one bet is on the fall of the "six", and the other is on the fact that with ten throws the "six" will not fall out even once.

Blaise Pascal was interested in practice, not theory. He wanted to win big money. Therefore, he developed a mathematical theory of probability.

However, at present, everyone knows about this theory. Hence, you will not be able to use it to increase your chances of winning the dice.

The dice game is based solely on the player's luck.

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I dont hear up any pvp type of dice because this game isnt how it works because most of the time you would really be fighting off against with the house and not against with other players.

Strategies are only good for making the game enjoyable and make it more longer but speaking with odds or chances then it is just the same.

I guess there is but not in an online casino, I also did not hear that games that there is a player vs a player who play dice. Most likely, they are against on the house edge. I don't know what is the theory behind the dice game if there is will I guess I dont know. But one thing that I am sure, it is not good to play dice with a player to player. A based on luck game is not appropriate on that not unless playing card which is common there is a PVP game.

I think I see a player vs a player in a movie, especially in a China gambling movie. If I am not mistaken, the star is Stephen Chow, and I see that someone playing dice uses a bowl with the dice inside that bowl. And when the dice is stopped rolls, the house opens the bowl, and the number will come out. That will be the winner that takes the money. Maybe he wants to look for that game but we are not sure.

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my record 40 times in a row <49.5%

Thats so unlikely, it shouldn't ever happen & if calculated using probability theory the odds would be like winning the lottery surely. Thats about 40 coin flips coming up heads, obviously if I was angry about the loss I'd just assume the game broke or was bugged in some way. It is true afaik that computers cannot generate random numbers by themselves, they require to source data from perhaps radioactive decay factors etc. I doubt thats being done for a dice game hence perhaps highly unlikely events. However if it occurs as loss, it might also appear as a win. Anyhow I think I prefer the crash game multiplier over dice, it always appears with bonkers results seems like.

Yes, I recalculated the chances of such an event, and even taking into account the fact that I played huge long game sessions with dice (I tested different strategies), it turned out that this should not have happened. But it happened to me personally and I even took screenshots (unfortunately I cannot find them since it was several years ago).

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 13, 2021, 03:23:52 AM

I don't know if there's even a theory for that, it's not like it's going to be that difficult to do it anyways so I don't think that it's of your interest to learn a theory as it's as you've said a simple game so nothing to worry too much about.

Dice having Multiplayer theory Grin

looks like people here and there now are trying to experiment on how gambling will go far and even impossible is taking place Grin

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Quote from: Cling18 on September 18, 2021, 02:09:51 AM

As for me, the dice game is just based on pure luck and it isn't like PVP if that's what you're referring to. I've been playing dice for entertainment purposes only because skills couldn't be applied to it. Its rules are simple and aren't complicated so I guess there's no theory that we could apply to it.

Not pure luck, more like odds based, I mean each sides have equal odds that they're the ones to land and I don't think that there's no way luck is real, if you throw it just right, you will be able to land what you want.

and How is throwing right? as if we can estimate the fall of the dice exactly on whichs ide we wanted and what about in Online gambling in which the dice is being rolled by computer?

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 13, 2021, 03:23:52 AM

I don't know if there's even a theory for that, it's not like it's going to be that difficult to do it anyways so I don't think that it's of your interest to learn a theory as it's as you've said a simple game so nothing to worry too much about.

same here although i got curious and search the term dice theory and the results shooked me because there is really such thing as dice theory and there are even websites like this https://dicetheory.org/ .
dice is a simple game but not the wining . it can be complex because there are strategies and skills that we can build to be able to last long or increase our chace to win in this game .

@op . not familiar how multiplayer dice work because most dice that i saw and play are single player but there are rules in every game and is written in the site your playing with .

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Quote from: Cling18 on September 18, 2021, 02:09:51 AM

As for me, the dice game is just based on pure luck and it isn't like PVP if that's what you're referring to. I've been playing dice for entertainment purposes only because skills couldn't be applied to it. Its rules are simple and aren't complicated so I guess there's no theory that we could apply to it.

Luck-based game but not actually you will just rely on your luck to win.

Wondering how other gamblers are keeping in the long run on dice? It's because of responsible betting. Whatever the amount on their bankroll, as long as they hit a good amount of winning playing on that day, they will stop even they are on a winning streak. In that way, they will feel the profit. They will come back the next day hoping for another lucky shot and will set up a budget for losing the amount. If it hits the bottom, they will stop and will not force to chase that day losses.

That's a strategy to win although in another form.

How do we survive in the long run... as you said Agustina2 we can't rely just on luck! It's not possible to survive in the long run if you just placing random bets (bet amount and bet multiplier) and just hoping to hit green!
What I always say, adjust your base bet to your bankroll if you wish to survive in the long run! You can't play x100 with a $10 bankroll and $1 bet! With just 10 rolls chances to hit that x100 are so small!
I have strategies that I can run for hours and days, depending on the base bet and how risky you wish to play for profit! With lower base bets I can run it for a long time, when I play with higher bets I limit my rolls to 1-5k!

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

As you didn't specify I can't tell you something precisely!!
As I didn't quite understand, I believe you can place your bet and press the button, so simple.

Hmm, well, you can read the rules for a particular site you are using, that might be helpful.

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my record 40 times in a row <49.5%

Thats so unlikely, it shouldn't ever happen & if calculated using probability theory the odds would be like winning the lottery surely. Thats about 40 coin flips coming up heads, obviously if I was angry about the loss I'd just assume the game broke or was bugged in some way. It is true afaik that computers cannot generate random numbers by themselves, they require to source data from perhaps radioactive decay factors etc. I doubt thats being done for a dice game hence perhaps highly unlikely events. However if it occurs as loss, it might also appear as a win. Anyhow I think I prefer the crash game multiplier over dice, it always appears with bonkers results seems like.

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Quote from: Oilacris on September 19, 2021, 02:59:12 PM

I dont hear up any pvp type of dice because this game isnt how it works because most of the time you would really be fighting off against with the house and not against with other players.

Strategies are only good for making the game enjoyable and make it more longer but speaking with odds or chances then it is just the same.

I guess there is but not in an online casino, I also did not hear that games that there is a player vs a player who play dice. Most likely, they are against on the house edge. I don't know what is the theory behind the dice game if there is will I guess I dont know. But one thing that I am sure, it is not good to play dice with a player to player. A based on luck game is not appropriate on that not unless playing card which is common there is a PVP game.

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Quote from: Cling18 on September 18, 2021, 02:09:51 AM

As for me, the dice game is just based on pure luck and it isn't like PVP if that's what you're referring to. I've been playing dice for entertainment purposes only because skills couldn't be applied to it. Its rules are simple and aren't complicated so I guess there's no theory that we could apply to it.

Luck-based game but not actually you will just rely on your luck to win.

Wondering how other gamblers are keeping in the long run on dice? It's because of responsible betting. Whatever the amount on their bankroll, as long as they hit a good amount of winning playing on that day, they will stop even they are on a winning streak. In that way, they will feel the profit. They will come back the next day hoping for another lucky shot and will set up a budget for losing the amount. If it hits the bottom, they will stop and will not force to chase that day losses.

That's a strategy to win although in another form.

Dice game is a game of chance, so no matter what strategy you will apply like martingale, you will end up losing if you will not stop playing. Just like you said, you will feel your winnings if you will stop once you hit certain amount of winnings for that day. But if not, expect that you will lose it again. There's no such theory or strategy that can help you with guaranteed winnings in a luck-based game. But yes, you can minimize your losses if you know when to stop.

Yes, that is why I don’t recommend any theory as dice is one of the most popular games of the present time, winning dice game is all a matter of luck and if the player happens to roll the right number he goes home with the winning.

Lots of people are really that obsessed with lots of strategies to be used on dice without even realizing that results or outcomes would really be just the same which is losing
unless if you do able to pull yourself when you are still in gains but if not then it would be still in loss.

I dont hear up any pvp type of dice because this game isnt how it works because most of the time you would really be fighting off against with the house and not against with other players.

Strategies are only good for making the game enjoyable and make it more longer but speaking with odds or chances then it is just the same.

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 18, 2021, 02:35:29 AM

Quote from: Cling18 on September 18, 2021, 02:09:51 AM

As for me, the dice game is just based on pure luck and it isn't like PVP if that's what you're referring to. I've been playing dice for entertainment purposes only because skills couldn't be applied to it. Its rules are simple and aren't complicated so I guess there's no theory that we could apply to it.

Luck-based game but not actually you will just rely on your luck to win.

Wondering how other gamblers are keeping in the long run on dice? It's because of responsible betting. Whatever the amount on their bankroll, as long as they hit a good amount of winning playing on that day, they will stop even they are on a winning streak. In that way, they will feel the profit. They will come back the next day hoping for another lucky shot and will set up a budget for losing the amount. If it hits the bottom, they will stop and will not force to chase that day losses.

That's a strategy to win although in another form.

Dice game is a game of chance, so no matter what strategy you will apply like martingale, you will end up losing if you will not stop playing. Just like you said, you will feel your winnings if you will stop once you hit certain amount of winnings for that day. But if not, expect that you will lose it again. There's no such theory or strategy that can help you with guaranteed winnings in a luck-based game. But yes, you can minimize your losses if you know when to stop.

Yes, that is why I don’t recommend any theory as dice is one of the most popular games of the present time, winning dice game is all a matter of luck and if the player happens to roll the right number he goes home with the winning.

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 18, 2021, 02:35:29 AM

Quote from: Cling18 on September 18, 2021, 02:09:51 AM

As for me, the dice game is just based on pure luck and it isn't like PVP if that's what you're referring to. I've been playing dice for entertainment purposes only because skills couldn't be applied to it. Its rules are simple and aren't complicated so I guess there's no theory that we could apply to it.

Luck-based game but not actually you will just rely on your luck to win.

Wondering how other gamblers are keeping in the long run on dice? It's because of responsible betting. Whatever the amount on their bankroll, as long as they hit a good amount of winning playing on that day, they will stop even they are on a winning streak. In that way, they will feel the profit. They will come back the next day hoping for another lucky shot and will set up a budget for losing the amount. If it hits the bottom, they will stop and will not force to chase that day losses.

That's a strategy to win although in another form.

Dice game is a game of chance, so no matter what strategy you will apply like martingale, you will end up losing if you will not stop playing. Just like you said, you will feel your winnings if you will stop once you hit certain amount of winnings for that day. But if not, expect that you will lose it again. There's no such theory or strategy that can help you with guaranteed winnings in a luck-based game. But yes, you can minimize your losses if you know when to stop.

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Quote from: Cling18 on September 18, 2021, 02:09:51 AM

As for me, the dice game is just based on pure luck and it isn't like PVP if that's what you're referring to. I've been playing dice for entertainment purposes only because skills couldn't be applied to it. Its rules are simple and aren't complicated so I guess there's no theory that we could apply to it.

Luck-based game but not actually you will just rely on your luck to win.

Wondering how other gamblers are keeping in the long run on dice? It's because of responsible betting. Whatever the amount on their bankroll, as long as they hit a good amount of winning playing on that day, they will stop even they are on a winning streak. In that way, they will feel the profit. They will come back the next day hoping for another lucky shot and will set up a budget for losing the amount. If it hits the bottom, they will stop and will not force to chase that day losses.

That's a strategy to win although in another form.

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As for me, the dice game is just based on pure luck and it isn't like PVP if that's what you're referring to. I've been playing dice for entertainment purposes only because skills couldn't be applied to it. Its rules are simple and aren't complicated so I guess there's no theory that we could apply to it.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on September 13, 2021, 03:23:52 AM

I don't know if there's even a theory for that, it's not like it's going to be that difficult to do it anyways so I don't think that it's of your interest to learn a theory as it's as you've said a simple game so nothing to worry too much about.

I have also been searching for dice theory on the internet and it seems there is no information on that, dice is one of the easiest gambling games, and since is just to roll the dice make it unnecessary to formulate a theory for it and even other gambling games also does not have a known theory. Maybe the ops can give us what he means.

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Indeed, there is some kind of theory or something like a random system that is applied with certain calculations on every number that comes out on dice game, which I also don't really care about, because it still depends on luck that really affects winning or losing when we make bets on any type of game in gambling.

If we use that theory, I am not sure how long we can win based on that theory because practically, we can win on the dice game because of our luck. And if you do not have luck, not just in dice games, but also in the other gambling games because basically, gambling games are entertainment that needs luck when you are playing the games. So rather than search for the theory that we might now get, you can play dice games without any theory, strategy, or method and try to enjoy the games. Who knows, that can give you more chance to win some money.

Luck is the main factor on why we do win on luck based games literally.We can have tons of strategies that we can make use of but doesnt really guarantee out that you can really make profits
or on the things that you are anticipating.I havent hear off about pvp dice but rather on coin flips or something like this because dice game is literally playing against with the house
which we do know that house do always win in the end and thats why its important that we are really aware and not pushing our chances that desperately.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Dice multiplayer? ))
And how does it's looks like? You throwing dice one by one and the person with higher result takes all bankroll or what?) "
And also, dice (the same as spins) is the games without any "strategy" - only your luck depends on the outcome.

So your question doesn't have any sense

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Quote from: Rajamuda on September 13, 2021, 09:23:25 AM

Indeed, there is some kind of theory or something like a random system that is applied with certain calculations on every number that comes out on dice game, which I also don't really care about, because it still depends on luck that really affects winning or losing when we make bets on any type of game in gambling.

If we use that theory, I am not sure how long we can win based on that theory because practically, we can win on the dice game because of our luck. And if you do not have luck, not just in dice games, but also in the other gambling games because basically, gambling games are entertainment that needs luck when you are playing the games. So rather than search for the theory that we might now get, you can play dice games without any theory, strategy, or method and try to enjoy the games. Who knows, that can give you more chance to win some money.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

The truth is that this represents a challenge for any casino, in all the ones I know I don't see any that has that option, however it would be interesting if some developers could take into account this initiative or this multiplayer Dice game. Currently there is a very strong boom in terms of games, really many are shining due to their high popularity, and they are NFT games, there I have not seen that modality either and that I am aware of everything that comes out new, the game DICE where I like playing it the most on es Freebitco.in and on stake.com, these are really the platforms that I like the most due to their environment.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on September 10, 2021, 05:07:19 AM

I think it isn't clarified on OP side regarding this multiplayer game but what YOSHIE shared make sense (somehow) if it's being played by two or more players? I think it wills still be the same aspect of play even if it's on multiplayer game, nothing much new I guess, correct me if I'm wrong.

I think there's something different. When you play a normal dice game, like YOSHIE mentioned, if you cannot guess the range of the outcome between 1 - 4,999 and 5,001 - 9,999, you lose. We cannot tell how these numbers are generated. Right? Which leaves some of us skeptic when we lose. Imagine if there's a multiplayer where player A and B both pick a number between 1 - 9,999, then AI picks a number too. Then the player who picked the closer number is the winner. This sounds like a fair game because winning doesn't just depend on AI result but also on your opponent. That is different from completely playing with the intelligence of an AI (Platforms can even write AI codes to not favour players). Also, there can be as many theory as possible.

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Indeed, there is some kind of theory or something like a random system that is applied with certain calculations on every number that comes out on dice game, which I also don't really care about, because it still depends on luck that really affects winning or losing when we make bets on any type of game in gambling.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 12, 2021, 09:29:59 AM

If I remember correctly, the advantage is given by the martingale strategy for both outcomes simultaneously. That is, in fact, you are playing against the fact that you will encounter an abnormally large series of identical results and you will not have enough money for the next bet. That is, mathematically, this is a normal martingale, but your winnings are x2, which gives you an advantage.
However, if you want to try this strategy, check it first on simulators - I tested many different options with different parameters and I'm not sure if I remembered the profitable one.

Now, I quite get it. Indeed, there's no way you could lose in this strategy. But if we are to use Martingale, you don't have to keep multiple accounts just to make money. You don't have to bet on both possibilities in every roll. Martingale is a winning strategy even if you are only using a single account playing against the house. The problem is that it requires one thing, and that is that you have an unbelievably deep pocket that even if you are losing 15 times in a row, you can still double your bet on the next one.

I do not agree with you, I have tried simple Martingale many times and sometimes the result (for example my record 40 times in a row <49.5%) can empty any deposit. The main problem is that potential loss grows much faster than potential profit.
By using multi-martingale you can double the rate of your winnings.

For example, taking a streak from the results of a die roll:

101101010001

For Martingale, you will receive +6 minimum bets.
101101010001
1 -11-1-1---1 = 6

For multymartingale, you will receive +11 minimum bets.
101101010001
1-11-1-1---1 = 6
-1--1-1-111- =6 (it is necessary to take into account the remaining minus, total we get 5)

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I don't know if there's even a theory for that, it's not like it's going to be that difficult to do it anyways so I don't think that it's of your interest to learn a theory as it's as you've said a simple game so nothing to worry too much about.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

As far as my backread is concerned, basically, OP might means how dice game should be played if on multiplayer mode and not on the usual house rules. Just correct me if I misunderstand your concern, OP.

I think it will be no different to other players vs player formats wherein there's a room, with the capacity, of course, waiting for that room to be full, then the game will now start. Rules and gameplay may vary and honestly, we can think lots of it so better just make your own possible way.

But that kind of game system is always targeted by bots and cheats. Another concern of mine is the reputation of the site that will do it as we need to be sure everything is fair especially if our opponent in that room is not running under their system's AI.

Yes, the ops may not know how to put it correctly but I guess he wants to know the probability of a probably fairs system that can be reused as a theory, but the truth is there is no working theory as multiplayer games require each player against the other and not the usual house vs the player way.

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on September 12, 2021, 05:57:33 AM

It's too complicated if gambling will install a multiplayer feature when things will be easy from a traditional online dice game, why fix that is not broken, dice game is still very popular for online bettors, and besides it will cost a lot they will hire programmers to install this so-called multiplayer dice, and there's no guaranty that it will be accepted by the majority of gamblers.

Dice happens to be the most popular in most online casino houses and if the multiplayer feature properly utilizes both the house edge and the player goes happy because it will be probably a fair system.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

As far as my backread is concerned, basically, OP might means how dice game should be played if on multiplayer mode and not on the usual house rules. Just correct me if I misunderstand your concern, OP.

I think it will be no different to other players vs player formats wherein there's a room, with the capacity, of course, waiting for that room to be full, then the game will now start. Rules and gameplay may vary and honestly, we can think lots of it so better just make your own possible way.

But that kind of game system is always targeted by bots and cheats. Another concern of mine is the reputation of the site that will do it as we need to be sure everything is fair especially if our opponent in that room is not running under their system's AI.

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It turns out that having several multi-accounts, you can make several bets on one event (even on opposite outcomes)? It seems to me that once upon a time I personally invented and tested different strategies for myself, and if I am not mistaken, then in such conditions the player can gain an advantage over the casino (I understand that multi-accounts are prohibited, but everyone knows that this prohibition is bypassed).

How so? Please enlighten me more about this possibility. It sounds interesting. I don't intend to use it. I just want to understand because there is a house edge. So if you are betting on >50 and <50 at the same time, there's no way you will lose but there's also no way you could make money. Please correct me.

If I remember correctly, the advantage is given by the martingale strategy for both outcomes simultaneously. That is, in fact, you are playing against the fact that you will encounter an abnormally large series of identical results and you will not have enough money for the next bet. That is, mathematically, this is a normal martingale, but your winnings are x2, which gives you an advantage.
However, if you want to try this strategy, check it first on simulators - I tested many different options with different parameters and I'm not sure if I remembered the profitable one.

Now, I quite get it. Indeed, there's no way you could lose in this strategy. But if we are to use Martingale, you don't have to keep multiple accounts just to make money. You don't have to bet on both possibilities in every roll. Martingale is a winning strategy even if you are only using a single account playing against the house. The problem is that it requires one thing, and that is that you have an unbelievably deep pocket that even if you are losing 15 times in a row, you can still double your bet on the next one.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

In light of what others have said already, I think you need to clarify your question. What do you mean by 'the basic theory to play within a multiplayer'?

Many different versions of classic dice games can be found at casinos, but the basic concept remains the same: players bet on the outcome of a pair of dice. Unlike physical casino, online casinos use a provably fair random number generator instead of dice. It is also possible to play multiplayer versions, in which players compete against each other, but the specific concept of each game will vary.

I do think that the OP does wanna know how will the classic dice game work out when they wanna do multiplayer. I do think that it would be the same the either way and you would just take turns to see who wins and who doesn't at the end of the day.

It's not complicated at all, there are many traditional games as well, I did some online research. Many games with multiple dices and many games with multiple players as well therefore if OP does wanna know about those then here you go : https://funattic.com/dice-games/

But I do think he is just asking about the multiplayer games in gambling platforms online on the site.

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on September 12, 2021, 05:57:33 AM

It's too complicated if gambling will install a multiplayer feature when things will be easy from a traditional online dice game, why fix that is not broken, dice game is still very popular for online bettors, and besides it will cost a lot they will hire programmers to install this so-called multiplayer dice, and there's no guaranty that it will be accepted by the majority of gamblers.

I don't understand why it would be too complicated. You can easily play with several other players at a dice game, it's simple : everyone bets on a range and the house pays the players who have guessed the right outcome. It's just like playing at the Roulette wheel, and almost all casinos are offering roulette games.

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Quote from: Johnyz on September 11, 2021, 09:22:35 AM

Multiplayer means playing with other gamblers against the house right? I honestly don’t know much about if there’s a theory on this and if its really work because as far as I know, dice game is also a luck game like roulette so your strategies wont work at all, I’d rather enjoy playing than to take this serious, it wont work.

If players like us are not aware of the existence of multiplayer dice games, then this is something interesting for us to explore unfortunately OP did not give us a clue on what this multiplayer dice game is, and on what gambling site can we find it and how can it be played, when he logs in he will be surprised on the reaction and he should give us more details.

I am not sure if he will come back to his thread and explain more details. Maybe he means that we are playing a dice game with the other player together at one table, like playing poker cards. If that is what he means, maybe it will be fun to play together with the other player as we can see how they play and learn something from the opponent. That is my guess, as all of us do not know what he means. But the basic theory to playing a dice game is to be careful to place the money to bet and not greed to chase the win.

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Quote from: Darker45 on September 11, 2021, 08:38:28 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on September 11, 2021, 08:48:16 AM

It turns out that having several multi-accounts, you can make several bets on one event (even on opposite outcomes)? It seems to me that once upon a time I personally invented and tested different strategies for myself, and if I am not mistaken, then in such conditions the player can gain an advantage over the casino (I understand that multi-accounts are prohibited, but everyone knows that this prohibition is bypassed).

How so? Please enlighten me more about this possibility. It sounds interesting. I don't intend to use it. I just want to understand because there is a house edge. So if you are betting on >50 and <50 at the same time, there's no way you will lose but there's also no way you could make money. Please correct me.

If I remember correctly, the advantage is given by the martingale strategy for both outcomes simultaneously. That is, in fact, you are playing against the fact that you will encounter an abnormally large series of identical results and you will not have enough money for the next bet. That is, mathematically, this is a normal martingale, but your winnings are x2, which gives you an advantage.
However, if you want to try this strategy, check it first on simulators - I tested many different options with different parameters and I'm not sure if I remembered the profitable one.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on September 11, 2021, 09:38:03 PM

Quote from: Johnyz on September 11, 2021, 09:22:35 AM

Multiplayer means playing with other gamblers against the house right? I honestly don’t know much about if there’s a theory on this and if its really work because as far as I know, dice game is also a luck game like roulette so your strategies wont work at all, I’d rather enjoy playing than to take this serious, it wont work.

If players like us are not aware of the existence of multiplayer dice games, then this is something interesting for us to explore unfortunately OP did not give us a clue on what this multiplayer dice game is, and on what gambling site can we find it and how can it be played, when he logs in he will be surprised on the reaction and he should give us more details.

I think OP's question is rather vague- since it opens a plethora of questions that only us members could assume his true intention.

In adherence to this so called "multiplayer dice game", I assume that players assemble which go against the house in some instances. Well, this kind of setup may be beneficial to the players as this calls for camaraderie against the odds/house. Though I still advise that before you gamble, you should always have a budget for the day in order to avoid overspending.

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Quote from: Bitinity on September 12, 2021, 02:18:58 AM

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Quote from: zanezane on September 10, 2021, 11:46:35 AM

It's easy, just throw the dice and hope that you are in the right time and right place that it lands on your number, I think that's the only way there is, theory won't be useful because it's a game of chance.

You don't understand what the OP was saying because she was not referring to a real multiplayer dice game where people roll the dice and the highest number roller win the bet but she's talking multiplayer dice introduced by an online casino which people have to just select a certain range of number they believe the dice result will be.

In logical understanding the word "multiplayer" refers to a game where you can play with some other players in single game.

No, the multiplayer game is play among two or more people at the same time and under the same settings.

Quote from: Bitinity on September 12, 2021, 02:18:58 AM

Example is the crash game, it is a multiplayer game because many players are betting at the same time in the same betID.

Each individual bet ID is different from each other but I think the crash is not a multiplayer game since it was playing against the house while slots, poker, and blackjack are multiplayer.

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Quote from: zanezane on September 10, 2021, 11:46:35 AM

It's easy, just throw the dice and hope that you are in the right time and right place that it lands on your number, I think that's the only way there is, theory won't be useful because it's a game of chance.

You don't understand what the OP was saying because she was not referring to a real multiplayer dice game where people roll the dice and the highest number roller win the bet but she's talking multiplayer dice introduced by an online casino which people have to just select a certain range of number they believe the dice result will be.

This is why we need to post the correct questions to avoid getting any invalid information. I also thought this one are not regarding to those gamblers playing with the other. Many suggestions here are correct, hope that OP will read everything. Theory is just a theory and it in not guaranteed, don’t forget this one as well.

Tomorrow is promised so nothing is ever guaranteed but the theory aspect is not theory but it always explains the foundation of a thing.

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It's too complicated if gambling will install a multiplayer feature when things will be easy from a traditional online dice game, why fix that is not broken, dice game is still very popular for online bettors, and besides it will cost a lot they will hire programmers to install this so-called multiplayer dice, and there's no guaranty that it will be accepted by the majority of gamblers.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

I haven't seen any dice games which has a multiplayer mode but even if it does then it would probably be the same.
Single player or multi player doesn't change the gameplay of the game you are playing.
The basic theory remains the same for most of the games. In case of dice you just have to roll the dice and wait for the result.
If the result is in your favour you win and else you lose and it's the same whether you are playing as a single player or a multi player.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on September 10, 2021, 07:56:27 PM

Quote from: zanezane on September 10, 2021, 11:46:35 AM

It's easy, just throw the dice and hope that you are in the right time and right place that it lands on your number, I think that's the only way there is, theory won't be useful because it's a game of chance.

You don't understand what the OP was saying because she was not referring to a real multiplayer dice game where people roll the dice and the highest number roller win the bet but she's talking multiplayer dice introduced by an online casino which people have to just select a certain range of number they believe the dice result will be.

In logical understanding the word "multiplayer" refers to a game where you can play with some other players in single game. Example is the crash game, it is a multiplayer game because many players are betting at the same time in the same betID. If you say that it is related to select a certain range of number then it should be related to multiplier instead of multiplayer.

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You can only do multiplayer in gaming but not in gambling especially in a dice game where the concept is too easy and there are no skill players the house edge will be absent if the battle is between the two players, but this concept is good if there's a possibility that it will materialize in a real dice game.

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The main concept of multiplayer games is for you to compete against other players, and since dice is a game of chance I don't think it will be fair to set up a player-to-player competition in such a scenario because there will always be that one guy struck with Murphy's Law. Now this concept would work in the sense of competition against players where they compare and contrast wagers and winnings, although this wouldn't work well for the people who aren't high-rollers because whatever happens, they will always be at the bottom of the leaderboard in such scenarios.

Quote from: AicecreaME on September 11, 2021, 12:04:40 PM

I can't see DICE having a multiplayer option, like what's the point? It's so easy to be played solo and gambling sites wouldn't do that because that would reduce the percentage of their bankroll if they are gonna have a feature like that. The current system is YOU vs. THE HOUSE, so whoever wins takes the money, while if it's a multiplayer, it's YOU vs. SOMEBODY and THE HOUSE would be just like a referee, if you know what I mean.

I would say the same but OP didn't specify what he meant by multiplayer because it could be either of the two I mentioned. Then again the former will never work because how would you balance a game that is based on chance? More so compete against other people when there's no real skill to compete with? Wagers and winnings leaderboards however could work in practical application as some gambling sites have already implemented such features but as I said earlier these types of tournaments heavily favor the high-rollers over the stingy ones.

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Quote from: Johnyz on September 11, 2021, 09:22:35 AM

Multiplayer means playing with other gamblers against the house right? I honestly don’t know much about if there’s a theory on this and if its really work because as far as I know, dice game is also a luck game like roulette so your strategies wont work at all, I’d rather enjoy playing than to take this serious, it wont work.

If players like us are not aware of the existence of multiplayer dice games, then this is something interesting for us to explore unfortunately OP did not give us a clue on what this multiplayer dice game is, and on what gambling site can we find it and how can it be played, when he logs in he will be surprised on the reaction and he should give us more details.

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Quote from: Darker45 on September 10, 2021, 08:55:00 PM

~snip~

It turns out that having several multi-accounts, you can make several bets on one event (even on opposite outcomes)? It seems to me that once upon a time I personally invented and tested different strategies for myself, and if I am not mistaken, then in such conditions the player can gain an advantage over the casino (I understand that multi-accounts are prohibited, but everyone knows that this prohibition is bypassed).

How so? Please enlighten me more about this possibility. It sounds interesting. I don't intend to use it. I just want to understand because there is a house edge. So if you are betting on >50 and <50 at the same time, there's no way you will lose but there's also no way you could make money. Please correct me.

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yes there are pvp dice. the one with the highest number wins. like a user makes a dice challenge and waits for other users to join.

I'm not referring to wagering contests, though. It's not really PVP because you are still playing against the house and yet you are also comparing stats with other players.

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Quote from: Darker45 on September 10, 2021, 08:55:00 PM

As to PVP in dice I haven't heard of it. There might be one, who knows? I haven't played in one, though, but it sounds interesting. Rather than play against the house, why not play against another player?

yes there are pvp dice. the one with the highest number wins. like a user makes a dice challenge and waits for other users to join. in duelbits that game
called duel dice i dont know in other casino what is that called. and the numbers coming out from user's client seed so its fair . yeah there really is no theory for that .

I havent tested out this kind of concept on playing dice on where you do against with other player or simply with pvp.I will sneek or have a peek on duelbets about that duel dice you are saying on here.

So far i havent seen one on my entire experience and awareness of this market specially with this kind of pvp dice since mostly that we do saw is about house vs player kind or type of dice.

Im not really that interested though because dice supposed to be instant and not just depending or waiting for other players to take out versus bet on you.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on September 10, 2021, 07:56:27 PM

Quote from: zanezane on September 10, 2021, 11:46:35 AM

It's easy, just throw the dice and hope that you are in the right time and right place that it lands on your number, I think that's the only way there is, theory won't be useful because it's a game of chance.

You don't understand what the OP was saying because she was not referring to a real multiplayer dice game where people roll the dice and the highest number roller win the bet but she's talking multiplayer dice introduced by an online casino which people have to just select a certain range of number they believe the dice result will be.

This is why we need to post the correct questions to avoid getting any invalid information. I also thought this one are not regarding to those gamblers playing with the other. Many suggestions here are correct, hope that OP will read everything. Theory is just a theory and it in not guaranteed, don’t forget this one as well.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

Dice is the most popular game right now and for the past few years solely because the results can be verified and the house edge is low. I never had too much fun playing dice as compared to slots or sports betting but the results are fair and good for wagering.

Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Not entirely sure what you mean by this statement.

If you want to ask whether multiplayer dice exist, then yes it used to exist earlier at primedice but for some reason was removed later.

Maybe you are wondering how you can play with others the game? The simple answer is you cannot right now. Maybe technically you can sit with your friends and gamble on what the dice will roll next time.

dice remains to be one of the most popular classic games in online casinos. but can he be referring to multiple dice game theory? btw, whatever you have strategy under your sleeves, dice is still luck-based game and that will never change. you can't formulate any equation that will give you sure winnings in this game but you can minimize losses if you want. just stop playing when you are already winning.

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Quote from: Darker45 on September 10, 2021, 08:55:00 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on September 10, 2021, 04:49:56 AM

AFAIK, there's no mutiplayer in dice. If that's what you're asking then just keep loving dice despite having no multiplayer on it but you can still enjoy it on your own.

I am not 100% sure what OP meant by multiplayer but I think there are dice games which are basically multiplayer. For example, there are live dice games. That is a multiplayer dice game because you are not the only player who is in the game. Other players are also placing bets on the same roll that you are placing your bet on.

Probably of what he meant about multiplayer is that he can really play against any other dice players that are active on that time. The same as other betting mechanisms, there are the other players that actively bets depending on the game but I think that's not what multiplayer means because there should be an interaction with other players like players-to-players too.

Quote from: Darker45 on September 10, 2021, 08:55:00 PM

As to PVP in dice I haven't heard of it. There might be one, who knows? I haven't played in one, though, but it sounds interesting. Rather than play against the house, why not play against another player?

I don't know also but afaik, there's none in existence. Maybe another project that's building a decentralized casino can do something like this.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

Dice is the most popular game right now and for the past few years solely because the results can be verified and the house edge is low. I never had too much fun playing dice as compared to slots or sports betting but the results are fair and good for wagering.

Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Not entirely sure what you mean by this statement.

If you want to ask whether multiplayer dice exist, then yes it used to exist earlier at primedice but for some reason was removed later.

Maybe you are wondering how you can play with others the game? The simple answer is you cannot right now. Maybe technically you can sit with your friends and gamble on what the dice will roll next time.

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Quote from: Darker45 on September 10, 2021, 08:55:00 PM

As to PVP in dice I haven't heard of it. There might be one, who knows? I haven't played in one, though, but it sounds interesting. Rather than play against the house, why not play against another player?

yes there are pvp dice. the one with the highest number wins. like a user makes a dice challenge and waits for other users to join. in duelbits that game called duel dice i dont know in other casino what is that called. and the numbers coming out from user's client seed so its fair . yeah there really is no theory for that .

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

If that is about the basic theory to play dice, you only need to place your bet and push the button. It is so simple as that and even you do not have to bother about the theory, the strategy or else. The important is you know how to play the dice game and how much money you will use to bet and let the website do the rest.

You know that dice game is one of the gambling games based on luck, so no matter what your strategy, theory or method is, if you do not have luck, you will hard to win instead of losing your money.

You're right, he overuses formulas, theories, and mathematical calculations. While the dice if in a physical casino bet and throw, then at an online casino it's even easier to bet then click the button. I was just thinking about how the OP played a one-turn dice gamble and finished off the theory.

Moreover nowadays there is a lot of luck in casinos, so we just need to bet and forget the theory. Enjoy gambling like entertainment, not to learn theory.

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I can't see DICE having a multiplayer option, like what's the point? It's so easy to be played solo and gambling sites wouldn't do that because that would reduce the percentage of their bankroll if they are gonna have a feature like that. The current system is YOU vs. THE HOUSE, so whoever wins takes the money, while if it's a multiplayer, it's YOU vs. SOMEBODY and THE HOUSE would be just like a referee, if you know what I mean.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Can you elaborate more? Do you mean playing dice in a multiplayer mode?

It's been in some discussion before that it's hard to make a multiplayer mode in luck-based games because of flaws. First, trust issues as we don't know if we are playing against a real human or bot. Second, the eligibility of players as the room won't be filled right away if only a few are interested. And last, in luck-based games, gamblers are not comfortable playing against a fellow player as they are not used to it.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Multiplayer means playing with other gamblers against the house right? I honestly don’t know much about if there’s a theory on this and if its really work because as far as I know, dice game is also a luck game like roulette so your strategies wont work at all, I’d rather enjoy playing than to take this serious, it wont work.

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By multiple players do you mean online or offline although both still use the same strategy. But still can't guarantee a win. For me been able to use your outcome from each dice throw no matter what it is the best strategy. And you should try to study the weak point of your opponent which would definitely require you losing a couple of games to him while you try to predict his possible moves if a certain set of numbers appears

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Quote from: Darker45 on September 10, 2021, 08:55:00 PM

I am not 100% sure what OP meant by multiplayer but I think there are dice games which are basically multiplayer. For example, there are live dice games. That is a multiplayer dice game because you are not the only player who is in the game. Other players are also placing bets on the same roll that you are placing your bet on.

As to PVP in dice I haven't heard of it. There might be one, who knows? I haven't played in one, though, but it sounds interesting. Rather than play against the house, why not play against another player?

It turns out that having several multi-accounts, you can make several bets on one event (even on opposite outcomes)? It seems to me that once upon a time I personally invented and tested different strategies for myself, and if I am not mistaken, then in such conditions the player can gain an advantage over the casino (I understand that multi-accounts are prohibited, but everyone knows that this prohibition is bypassed).

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I'd think it's either of the two, against an AI or against each other. Against an AI is like how blackjack works I guess? With a bit more rules maybe to make it more fun, a specific rule to be exact, not that I'd know what would make it more fun. Maybe something like instead of taking the total of each dice of the player, it should be made into combinations that give more points depending on if they built something or not. The against player one would basically be the same, but against other players instead.

Quote from: zanezane on September 10, 2021, 11:46:35 AM

It's easy, just throw the dice and hope that you are in the right time and right place that it lands on your number, I think that's the only way there is, theory won't be useful because it's a game of chance.

At least read what OP said and not just the first word of the topic title lmao.

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Quote from: sunsilk on September 10, 2021, 04:49:56 AM

AFAIK, there's no mutiplayer in dice. If that's what you're asking then just keep loving dice despite having no multiplayer on it but you can still enjoy it on your own.

I am not 100% sure what OP meant by multiplayer but I think there are dice games which are basically multiplayer. For example, there are live dice games. That is a multiplayer dice game because you are not the only player who is in the game. Other players are also placing bets on the same roll that you are placing your bet on.

As to PVP in dice I haven't heard of it. There might be one, who knows? I haven't played in one, though, but it sounds interesting. Rather than play against the house, why not play against another player?

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Honestly, I don't quite understand what you mean by multiplayer on dice.

What I understand on dice is pretty basic, just like the normal dice, just roll and choose over or under on the specific number.
Multiplier seems like a competition for me, one player vs the other, not you gambling versus the computer or the machine.

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Quote from: zanezane on September 10, 2021, 11:46:35 AM

It's easy, just throw the dice and hope that you are in the right time and right place that it lands on your number, I think that's the only way there is, theory won't be useful because it's a game of chance.

You don't understand what the OP was saying because she was not referring to a real multiplayer dice game where people roll the dice and the highest number roller win the bet but she's talking multiplayer dice introduced by an online casino which people have to just select a certain range of number they believe the dice result will be.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

You mean a PVP dice instead of house dice? Well that would be interesting. I guess it's going to be the same. Each user will place a bet and then decide if they are going to roll over or under a certain number. After deciding, both of them rolls the dice. The one that predicts correctly wins everything, while the other loses. If both of them predicts correctly, then its going to be a draw. Or maybe something like who can roll the highest? Two player rolls a dice. The one that rolled the highest or lowest number wins.

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Quote from: Tessnik on September 10, 2021, 03:05:51 PM

You are right, the house will never allow the player to player dice round as the bet amount goes from the casino house to the user, it’s important to note that house edge will always oversee the outcome of each game, and gambling platforms are always after the money from the house edge.

You are particularly talking about PvP type which it cant really be called that a dice because this is most likely to be seen on card games or coin flip ones and we know and as said by others that
you are against with the house and yes it does really have that house edge which you should be aware of thats why when you do play dice then its better to be aware and stop midway
when you are in profits and call it a day rather than on continuing and believe that you could beat up the house.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

If you are talking about a case when a player can make several bets on one roll of the dice (even on opposite events like <49,5% > 50%), then I have not heard that any casino provides such an option. If I'm not mistaken, then a player with this option will have an advantage over the casino and will be able to win on a permanent basis.

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You are right, the house will never allow the player to player dice round as the bet amount goes from the casino house to the user, it’s important to note that house edge will always oversee the outcome of each game, and gambling platforms are always after the money from the house edge.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Considering on how many dice gambling sites nowadays then we can really say that there is indeed a demand into it and also they are really making profits or revenue since people do really love to play dice.

Asking out about multiplayer? No it is just a players-vs-house type of game which it would really be a solo-one for you to play on direct to the point on that particular time that you do play.

All matters with luck but somehow you can make use of some strategies to make it longer or something like that but dont ever rely that they would guarantee profits.

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Dice is becoming a recent discussion in many casinos and online forums and there is no known theory other than to rely heavily on luck and some basic skills, get the dice rolling and get set for whatever comes out as a result it’s as simple as that.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

This is something new to me I only play dice with the house or against someone not never multiplayer so far, on the gambling sites I'm playing there is none offering a multiplayer feature, but searching on the internet for something like multiplayer, I found this it's in the development stage from a developer I don't know if the programmer succeeded in creating a dice multi player, but it's something a gambling casino can take up.

https://www.codeproject.com/Questions/1042445/Dice-Game-How-to-allow-for-multiple-players

It's rather easy to develop a multi-player dice game but the casino would always want the players to lose money to them instead of losing it to the other players. Also to create a multi-player dice game there must be enough players otherwise it wouldn't make sense for someone to wait for hours to find an opponent.

If even a multi-player dice game is there, I think most of the players will prefer playing against the house since it will allow customized amounts and multiplier which isn't possible against other players who will want to have their own multiplier and bet amount.

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It's easy, just throw the dice and hope that you are in the right time and right place that it lands on your number, I think that's the only way there is, theory won't be useful because it's a game of chance.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

If that is about the basic theory to play dice, you only need to place your bet and push the button. It is so simple as that and even you do not have to bother about the theory, the strategy or else. The important is you know how to play the dice game and how much money you will use to bet and let the website do the rest.

You know that dice game is one of the gambling games based on luck, so no matter what your strategy, theory or method is, if you do not have luck, you will hard to win instead of losing your money.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Theory mean how exactly that work ? dice game like that was made to "Provably fair" because the numbers came out through Clientseed - provided by your browser if you ask the theory to always win i dont think someone has an answer for that because the point is its provably fair system .

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Quote from: https://dicesites.com/provably-fair

How does provably fair work?
Serverseed - provided by the gambling site
Clientseed - provided by your browser and adjusted by you
Nonce - A number that increases with each bet you make

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I think it isn't clarified on OP site regarding this multiplayer game but what YOSHIE shared make sense (somehow) if it's being played by two or more players? I think it wills still be the same aspect of play even if it's on multiplayer game, nothing much new I guess, correct me if I'm wrong.

I wonder if OP means a giant dice game. I have played bustabit many times and we can see other players making their bets at the same time as we make ours. So maybe OP wants to ask if there is such a dice game where many people can bet on each round, something like a roulette probably.

I don't think I have ever come across on that in my gambling journey, perhaps that is too rare on most occasion. I don't know if it's that was he/she is asking but seems that's the thing, I have played with live dice game before for example on Roobet like "Lightning Dice", don't know if this is the similar thing he/she is asking.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 10, 2021, 07:09:19 AM

Never heard of dice being played as a multiplayer. It's just you against the odds and house edge, that's it.

It's not a multiplier I thought it's a type error but it's both on the title and on his post, we are playing dice for a long now but never encounter a multiplayer, but if there's something like that and you have a site where it is being played then he should have posted here so we can discuss that multiplayer dice game, like me I'm sure many will be interested to play something like this.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

In light of what others have said already, I think you need to clarify your question. What do you mean by 'the basic theory to play within a multiplayer'?

Many different versions of classic dice games can be found at casinos, but the basic concept remains the same: players bet on the outcome of a pair of dice. Unlike physical casino, online casinos use a provably fair random number generator instead of dice. It is also possible to play multiplayer versions, in which players compete against each other, but the specific concept of each game will vary.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

There is no theory to it, unless you can extract some type of mathematical formula from the specific site that you're playing on. It is unlikely to have any impact on the profitability of your play, because the casino likely set it up where the house is always the winner in the long run and no single player will be able to get an advantage better than that. If you wanted to share which site you play on, maybe we could go through it and tell you how badly the game is tilted, but it seems a little futile. Maybe move over to some sort of skill based gambling game if you're looking to gain an advantage over other players - poker or even live multiplayer blackjack springs to mind, otherwise accept that dice is just for fun.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on September 10, 2021, 05:07:19 AM

I think it isn't clarified on OP site regarding this multiplayer game but what YOSHIE shared make sense (somehow) if it's being played by two or more players? I think it wills still be the same aspect of play even if it's on multiplayer game, nothing much new I guess, correct me if I'm wrong.

I wonder if OP means a giant dice game. I have played bustabit many times and we can see other players making their bets at the same time as we make ours. So maybe OP wants to ask if there is such a dice game where many people can bet on each round, something like a roulette probably.

I personally hate to wait for results and prefer instant results for the bets but I know some people want to bet with others live because it is more fun playing that way.

Any casinos I have played so far do not provide such a feature of betting with other people on dice. There is flash roulette I think at bitsler with a similar feature where many people can place their bets and there is a slide game at stake with similar feature.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

This is something new to me I only play dice with the house or against someone not never multiplayer so far, on the gambling sites I'm playing there is none offering a multiplayer feature, but searching on the internet for something like multiplayer, I found this it's in the development stage from a developer I don't know if the programmer succeeded in creating a dice multi player, but it's something a gambling casino can take up.

https://www.codeproject.com/Questions/1042445/Dice-Game-How-to-allow-for-multiple-players

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

Yup, the rules as simple, you are not alone, I think everyone here started their crypto journey playing dice games and then eventually move on to other games. One that can make them happy and still make profits like sports betting. Dice though is based on luck, so there is no strategy

Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Never heard of dice being played as a multiplayer. It's just you against the odds and house edge, that's it.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

Casino games do not take much time, like the roulette do not also take much time and I think roulette is one of the most common too if not common than dice games, but one thing about dice is that the chances of winning is also high if played with ease and no addiction.

Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

There is no basic theory about dice, use just only the amount you can afford to lose that you will never think about if lost, do not gamble too much, just use few periods of your time to play dice, make sure you do not go for high odds because high odds can make you lose without winning at all.

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You can read the rules on the certain gambling site you are playing.

Normally the computation is very simple, your bet amount x multiplier, then less your bet amount if you win = profit.
That's very basic, as a gambler, you have to understand the basic before you proceed, and it's not hard to understand how dice sites works as their rules are very simple.

maybe you should look at the strategy as well, and the provably fairness to ensure the site is not cheating you.

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Quote from: Sonofgeneral on September 10, 2021, 03:35:31 AM

Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

Maybe you wanted to say "within a multiplier"? In that case, the basic theory within a multiplier should be possible max win/loss streak for the specific multiplier... like this (from Wolf, numbers can differ depending on edge):

Payout x1.1 roll over/under 9.99/90 - I had 7 reds, some people talk about +10!
Payout x2 roll over/under 50.49/49.5 - I had over 30 reds, I saw people talking about +40!
Payout x99 roll over/under 98.99/1 - My max streak was +900, some talk about +1000!

Of course, the longer you play, the higher are chances for running into some long losing streak! When I run some strategy I like to test it without any increasing, with some minimal bet, and it's how I know the limits and that helps me to set up the right basic bet and bet increase after every or a certain number of losses!

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I think it isn't clarified on OP side regarding this multiplayer game but what YOSHIE shared make sense (somehow) if it's being played by two or more players? I think it wills still be the same aspect of play even if it's on multiplayer game, nothing much new I guess, correct me if I'm wrong.

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As for now I still do not see a dice game with multiplayer are you talking about the tabletop game with the use of the dice like odd or even in the casinos? AFAIK you just need to wage to the number you predicted will show up and win the profit also there's an odd or even game with the banker just taking the risk to gambling with that two outcomes only. But if you are talking about a gambling platform this kind of PVP game does not exist for now.

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To play with others like PvP?

AFAIK, there's no mutiplayer in dice. If that's what you're asking then just keep loving dice despite having no multiplayer on it but you can still enjoy it on your own.

And if you're up with the competition, just look at the leaderboards and have yourself compared with other dicers statistics.

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You have to be more specific on what type of multiplayer are you looking for because there's two types to choose from the first one is where you could play with other players side by side similar to how live roulette works.

The second type is the pvp format where you're against another gambler, group or every dice player (wagering contests).

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You just follow this theory, it will help you in multiplayer games.

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- Next, select the amount to bet and place your bet. Click BET LO if you guess the roll will be smaller than 5000 or click BET HI if you guess the roll will be greater than 5000. (The system eliminated the roll by 5000 to ensure chance is 50%)

- Each round of the game, you have the opportunity to place a bet in the 60 seconds before the result appear. After the time the bet ends, the system will refund in order of time so that the amount of bets on both sides is equal.

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- If you choose BET HI and the RESULT is HIGH, you will WIN and vice versa if If you choose BET HI and the RESULT is LOW, you will LOSS.

About dice gambling sites, it's up to you which one you want to use, of course it's safe and has a good reputation here, almost all gambling sites offer dice games.

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Your point is not clear to me are you playing in an online casino site where group dice playing is involved with a live chart of users on the game, or do you want to play against the House, please reply with more information so we can prefer the right theory for you that is if it exists.

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Dice is the most popular game in modern-day casinos. The reasons remain clear to me but am a fan of dice, as it doesn’t take much energy to play and win on a single game.

But I want to know the basic theory to play within a multiplayer?

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