Did ISIS really attack Ataturk airport?

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Quote from: zenitzz on June 30, 2016, 11:54:23 AM

Did anyone else think it's amazing that ISIS has the ability to continue to wage war without a base country in the Middle East supplying their weaponry, food supplies, medical care, and least we not forget their paychecks???

No it is not amazing. They are going back to a terrorist organization like any other. Harder to find on a map. Fueled by corruption, failed countries and economies, and people who have been radicalized. The amazing part was them taking territory. And holding it for so long. That was the exception.

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A government's duty is to create a safe environment for all citizens and keep the peace.
If the borders are ripped for a new kurdish country that means fight,war for turks against kurds.. No solution again. More and more could die in the end. USA cant impose this new existence of Kurdistan idea to turkish people. Dont be that mean! You want war for almost 80M people with your both solutions.

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Did anyone else think it's amazing that ISIS has the ability to continue to wage war without a base country in the Middle East supplying their weaponry, food supplies, medical care, and least we not forget their paychecks???

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there are 2 choices for the Turks and everyone in the area. Or they accept the creation of a democratic Kurdistan following human rights (including protecting minorities in their way of life and co) or they will fight and fight and die and fight and win and fight and lose and fight and die some more. Of course only the former United States could do it. Impose to everyone the fact of the existence of Kurdistan. And those not agreeing will have to fight America... Iran doesn't let Kurds under Iranian control join, Teheran gets some long range missiles, Damascus play though? A palace in ashes... Turks wanna play hegemony in the area? They get economic sanction and more... At least Iraqi seems to have understand to let the Kurds alone...

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Quote from: Masha Sha on June 30, 2016, 09:34:27 AM

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Given the support that Turkey has given to ISIS, it doesn't seem a logical thing to do. Do you think thet the attack was Western generated to push Turkey to close borders with Syria?

ISIS ? Wow what a surprise! It is terribly sad that so many innocents have to suffer for the ideology of a twisted belief. But, let's bring it on home, just for a moment.

Probably was isis but authorities don't know for sure. There are similarities between this attack and others that isis did. But don't know that there is more evidence yet. And isis hasn't claimed the attack. But can't see it being the kurds. They mostly attack turkish police or army. And this probably hurt them by giving an excuse for the government to be tougher on everyone they don't like.

The Turks are not native from this area!!! They exterminated the Armenian Christians... They will exterminate, hmm sorry assimilate the Kurds... The turksmen don't need an excuse... I am sure only a failure like Kissinger could have thought that it was a good idea to have such an oppressive nation in NATO. Someone smart would have restored Kurdistan by fleecing all nations around and then maybe integrate them all... If they are divided under ethnic or religious line they are useless.

After 9.11 kids from all over America joined... Without a second thought.

Do you have same idea for brussel blast and people living and died there too? Sayin its just happening for Turkey is not fair at all. This is not the first or last attack. There will be more in different locations. Armanians or religion or etnic origin has nothing to do with their target. Its all politics. They just hide behind religion, only a fool cant see it.

why would you ask? The topic isn't about Belgium...but if you wanna know, Belgium isn't invading, occupying or oppressing anyone. I would say the contrary they are occupied by the EU... I don't think turkey as a nation has a future... Why? They deny the existence of the Kurds. Those Kurds want a country of their own accross a lot of different fake national boundaries. As long as turkey oppress those people there will be violence. This little terrorists act will not change anything. You have been taken over by the media hype to make you forget brexit and Orlando... I am sure you have heard the name bengazi but you can't remember what happened. Ooopppsss sorry my bad there was a movie... You should remember, you are cultivated and informed... You rent it on Netflix. ;-)

Sorry i dont learn about politics and history from movies.. its not very wise to do so. Even the news is skeptical. what you suggest ? Turks should leave their land to kurds and go where Cheesy

? No nation accepts it. What is so sad here is kurds and turks they all fought for the same purpose together against europian countries once, to have their own land not a mandated territory and what is wanted is a civil war inside. Seeing that politicians dont resign they need to change the government asap. Cos its very obvious more innocents will die otherwise. Another case all Kurds living in turkey are not terrorists and fan of isis. Isis bombers 99% syrians, why would turks should allow ripping their own borders for making land for syrian terrorists ?

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Quote from: jupiterdianysa on June 30, 2016, 06:28:09 AM

Quote from: Masha Sha on June 29, 2016, 11:58:52 PM

Quote from: Gronthaing on June 29, 2016, 05:46:01 PM

Quote from: xht on June 29, 2016, 03:06:27 PM

Quote from: Jet Cash on June 29, 2016, 02:47:05 AM

Given the support that Turkey has given to ISIS, it doesn't seem a logical thing to do. Do you think thet the attack was Western generated to push Turkey to close borders with Syria?

ISIS ? Wow what a surprise! It is terribly sad that so many innocents have to suffer for the ideology of a twisted belief. But, let's bring it on home, just for a moment.

Probably was isis but authorities don't know for sure. There are similarities between this attack and others that isis did. But don't know that there is more evidence yet. And isis hasn't claimed the attack. But can't see it being the kurds. They mostly attack turkish police or army. And this probably hurt them by giving an excuse for the government to be tougher on everyone they don't like.

The Turks are not native from this area!!! They exterminated the Armenian Christians... They will exterminate, hmm sorry assimilate the Kurds... The turksmen don't need an excuse... I am sure only a failure like Kissinger could have thought that it was a good idea to have such an oppressive nation in NATO. Someone smart would have restored Kurdistan by fleecing all nations around and then maybe integrate them all... If they are divided under ethnic or religious line they are useless.

After 9.11 kids from all over America joined... Without a second thought.

Do you have same idea for brussel blast and people living and died there too? Sayin its just happening for Turkey is not fair at all. This is not the first or last attack. There will be more in different locations. Armanians or religion or etnic origin has nothing to do with their target. Its all politics. They just hide behind religion, only a fool cant see it.

why would you ask? The topic isn't about Belgium...but if you wanna know, Belgium isn't invading, occupying or oppressing anyone. I would say the contrary they are occupied by the EU... I don't think turkey as a nation has a future... Why? They deny the existence of the Kurds. Those Kurds want a country of their own accross a lot of different fake national boundaries. As long as turkey oppress those people there will be violence. This little terrorists act will not change anything. You have been taken over by the media hype to make you forget brexit and Orlando... I am sure you have heard the name bengazi but you can't remember what happened. Ooopppsss sorry my bad there was a movie... You should remember, you are cultivated and informed... You rent it on Netflix. ;-)

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Quote from: Masha Sha on June 29, 2016, 11:58:52 PM

Quote from: Gronthaing on June 29, 2016, 05:46:01 PM

Quote from: xht on June 29, 2016, 03:06:27 PM

Quote from: Jet Cash on June 29, 2016, 02:47:05 AM

Given the support that Turkey has given to ISIS, it doesn't seem a logical thing to do. Do you think thet the attack was Western generated to push Turkey to close borders with Syria?

ISIS ? Wow what a surprise! It is terribly sad that so many innocents have to suffer for the ideology of a twisted belief. But, let's bring it on home, just for a moment.

Probably was isis but authorities don't know for sure. There are similarities between this attack and others that isis did. But don't know that there is more evidence yet. And isis hasn't claimed the attack. But can't see it being the kurds. They mostly attack turkish police or army. And this probably hurt them by giving an excuse for the government to be tougher on everyone they don't like.

The Turks are not native from this area!!! They exterminated the Armenian Christians... They will exterminate, hmm sorry assimilate the Kurds... The turksmen don't need an excuse... I am sure only a failure like Kissinger could have thought that it was a good idea to have such an oppressive nation in NATO. Someone smart would have restored Kurdistan by fleecing all nations around and then maybe integrate them all... If they are divided under ethnic or religious line they are useless.

After 9.11 kids from all over America joined... Without a second thought.

Do you have same idea for brussel blast and people living and died there too? Sayin its just happening for Turkey is not fair at all. This is not the first or last attack. There will be more in different locations. Armanians or religion or etnic origin has nothing to do with their target. Its all politics. They just hide behind religion, only a fool cant see it.

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Quote from: Gronthaing on June 29, 2016, 05:46:01 PM

Quote from: xht on June 29, 2016, 03:06:27 PM

Quote from: Jet Cash on June 29, 2016, 02:47:05 AM

Given the support that Turkey has given to ISIS, it doesn't seem a logical thing to do. Do you think thet the attack was Western generated to push Turkey to close borders with Syria?

ISIS ? Wow what a surprise! It is terribly sad that so many innocents have to suffer for the ideology of a twisted belief. But, let's bring it on home, just for a moment.

Probably was isis but authorities don't know for sure. There are similarities between this attack and others that isis did. But don't know that there is more evidence yet. And isis hasn't claimed the attack. But can't see it being the kurds. They mostly attack turkish police or army. And this probably hurt them by giving an excuse for the government to be tougher on everyone they don't like.

The Turks are not native from this area!!! They exterminated the Armenian Christians... They will exterminate, hmm sorry assimilate the Kurds... The turksmen don't need an excuse... I am sure only a failure like Kissinger could have thought that it was a good idea to have such an oppressive nation in NATO. Someone smart would have restored Kurdistan by fleecing all nations around and then maybe integrate them all... If they are divided under ethnic or religious line they are useless.

After 9.11 kids from all over America joined... Without a second thought.

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Quote from: Gronthaing on June 29, 2016, 05:46:01 PM

Quote from: xht on June 29, 2016, 03:06:27 PM

Quote from: Jet Cash on June 29, 2016, 02:47:05 AM

Given the support that Turkey has given to ISIS, it doesn't seem a logical thing to do. Do you think thet the attack was Western generated to push Turkey to close borders with Syria?

ISIS ? Wow what a surprise! It is terribly sad that so many innocents have to suffer for the ideology of a twisted belief. But, let's bring it on home, just for a moment.

Probably was isis but authorities don't know for sure. There are similarities between this attack and others that isis did. But don't know that there is more evidence yet. And isis hasn't claimed the attack. But can't see it being the kurds. They mostly attack turkish police or army. And this probably hurt them by giving an excuse for the government to be tougher on everyone they don't like.

I think that ISIS has claimed responsibility, but let's leave that aside and ask the basic question (bolded above).

Doesn't seem logical? On the contrary. Say you partnered with a terrorist, did some things he wanted, he did some things you wanted. After a while, you try something a bit independent. Guess what? He gives you a taste of what happens if you stray too far. Think of it as wife beating.

That's what a wife beater DOES, he beats his wife.

And terror is what ISIS DOES. Of course they have to keep their ally Turkey in line. And they need to move Turkey further in line, until finally, Turkey isn't even Turkey any more.

That's my opinion, that it seems totally logical.

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Quote from: xht on June 29, 2016, 03:06:27 PM

Quote from: Jet Cash on June 29, 2016, 02:47:05 AM

Given the support that Turkey has given to ISIS, it doesn't seem a logical thing to do. Do you think thet the attack was Western generated to push Turkey to close borders with Syria?

ISIS ? Wow what a surprise! It is terribly sad that so many innocents have to suffer for the ideology of a twisted belief. But, let's bring it on home, just for a moment.

Probably was isis but authorities don't know for sure. There are similarities between this attack and others that isis did. But don't know that there is more evidence yet. And isis hasn't claimed the attack. But can't see it being the kurds. They mostly attack turkish police or army. And this probably hurt them by giving an excuse for the government to be tougher on everyone they don't like.

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Quote from: Jet Cash on June 29, 2016, 02:47:05 AM

Given the support that Turkey has given to ISIS, it doesn't seem a logical thing to do. Do you think thet the attack was Western generated to push Turkey to close borders with Syria?

ISIS ? Wow what a surprise! It is terribly sad that so many innocents have to suffer for the ideology of a twisted belief. But, let's bring it on home, just for a moment.

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Here:http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/06/turkey-istanbul-ataturk-airport-attack-160629010240861.html
"Binali Yildirim (wiki: a Turkish politician who is the 27th and current Prime Minister of Turkey and the leader of the Justice and Development Party) says suicide bombers who killed at least 41 at Istanbul's Ataturk Airport likely linked to ISIL."

We can only wait for confirmation now

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Quote from: Lethn on June 29, 2016, 10:47:50 AM

There has been annoying amount of spam with people screaming false flag at every opportunity, there was CCTV footage for fucks sake, stop putting your heads in the sand and acting as if this is all some government conspiracy to scare us all. Islamic terrorism is real now while I wouldn't dispute that our governments certainly try to take advantage of incidents like this you're acting like total twats and actually being pretty unfair on people who got killed in these attacks by treating this as some sort of game.

By the way, the Kurds have had intelligence that made them suspect that ISIS has been in Turkey for years now and the country borders with Syria for fucks sake, so it should be no suprirse there are militants sneaking through all the time especially if they're being pushed back. All they'll need to do is put on their civilian clothes and slip in through the crowds unarmed, it wouldn't take much at all.

I have 0 sympathies for the Turks. They are like the nazis: oppressing and killing the Kurds. As such the tourists are taking part in the Kurdish extermination by providing taxable money and credibility to turkey. I know it's sound harsh but what do they expect? The conquered Constantinople... Converted a church in a mosk... Frankly 0 respect. Typical kissishit wargame planning to integrate in NATO... He couldn't think better... Nothing surprising. And it was clear in Irak why you don't take not unified nation. You split them and then reintegrate in NATO, balls ways. Btw how could the Kurds achieve there states as turkey doesn't want to let them live independently... It rememeber me the foundation of America... Sadly for them they don't have the support of France...

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By doing so, Isis succeeded in setting the political agenda by provoking a resumption of hostilities between Turks and Kurds and setting the scene for President Recep Tayyip Erdogan success in the parliamentary election on 1 November.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/istanbul-attack-isis-may-be-concluding-turkey-is-no-longer-a-place-where-it-need-tread-carefully-a6808031.html

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There has been annoying amount of spam with people screaming false flag at every opportunity, there was CCTV footage for fucks sake, stop putting your heads in the sand and acting as if this is all some government conspiracy to scare us all. Islamic terrorism is real now while I wouldn't dispute that our governments certainly try to take advantage of incidents like this you're acting like total twats and actually being pretty unfair on people who got killed in these attacks by treating this as some sort of game.

By the way, the Kurds have had intelligence that made them suspect that ISIS has been in Turkey for years now and the country borders with Syria for fucks sake, so it should be no suprirse there are militants sneaking through all the time especially if they're being pushed back. All they'll need to do is put on their civilian clothes and slip in through the crowds unarmed, it wouldn't take much at all.

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Its been predicted that ISIS could have made the blast. Till now no official acceptance on the bomb blast had taken place.

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Or Russians... Why wouldn't they use terror as a strategy when they support Assad. I don't see in what Russia didn't became a terror state. Once in the axis always in axis ;-)

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Given the support that Turkey has given to ISIS, it doesn't seem a logical thing to do. Do you think thet the attack was Western generated to push Turkey to close borders with Syria?

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