Topic: Did you sign a petition to kick Russia from UN? (Read 116 times)
Do you think your vote really matters???
what about the US? what about myanmar? what about israel? is russia the only one committing war crimes? so when ukraine threatens russia's sovereignty by wanting to join nato it doesn't matter? ... every country has its own sins,, if we talk about humanity, the sins of the U.S are far more numerous .. especially removing russia from the un is not a solution,, it will only make the problem worse
You know that it's not achievable signing a petition to kick Russia from UN if that should happen it is Russian on their own to decide that they are leaving without anybody or any country planning to do that before their knowledge we all know that you do not work because Russian is a world power if I am not sure they second world power
I didn't sign it because I think it would be pretty crazy if global decisions like this were made with petitions. Not to mention that kicking Russia from the UN would seemingly escalate the issue even more. I know it sounds crazy, but maybe peace is the answer? Maybe government should come clean about their intentions and let people vote the warmongers out of government. If Russia seems like it's the only problem here, I would offer the idea that maybe we don't have the entire story.
Why not a petition to kick the US out of the UN? Russia is only protecting herself against the US using the Ukraine to try to harm her. But really, it goes way beyond this one little skirmish. Check out what is happening in China.
Pray for Ukraine?
Pray for Ukraine?
Quote from: http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2022/september/09/pray-for-ukraine/
I suppose that it is supposed to mean that we should pray for the people of Ukraine who are suffering because of the unjustified Russian invasion of their country. If only things were that simple.
Some observations are in order.
This appeal is based on the overly simplistic yet false and evil notion of Ukraine, good; Russia, bad.
This trite expression in the form of a prayer request is virtue signaling at its worst.
I think we are at the point now where someone saying "Pray for Ukraine" is the verbal equivalent of someone wearing a face mask.
If U.S. soldiers are heroes for following their government's orders, then why aren't Russian soldiers heroes for doing the same?
The Ukrainian nationalists (and the Christians who hang on their every word) who compare Putin to Hitler are gravely insulting Jews.
How come I have never heard any Christians say that we should pray for the ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine who were shelled for the past eight years by the Ukrainian military?
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Some observations are in order.
This appeal is based on the overly simplistic yet false and evil notion of Ukraine, good; Russia, bad.
This trite expression in the form of a prayer request is virtue signaling at its worst.
I think we are at the point now where someone saying "Pray for Ukraine" is the verbal equivalent of someone wearing a face mask.
If U.S. soldiers are heroes for following their government's orders, then why aren't Russian soldiers heroes for doing the same?
The Ukrainian nationalists (and the Christians who hang on their every word) who compare Putin to Hitler are gravely insulting Jews.
How come I have never heard any Christians say that we should pray for the ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine who were shelled for the past eight years by the Ukrainian military?
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As much as I agree with goal of this petition, but there is no point to sign it. C'mon, online petitions is most pointless thing ever made. It has zero power to change something. And it's not even petition as you don't verify your identity while signing it. You have to enter your full name and email. If someone would want, he would be able to sign it thousands times from different emails
The UN is a do-nothing organization. If member nations don't want to back what the UN says, the UN saying goes down the drain.
Pretty much this. Further, much of the UN is in "bed" with China, and looks after China's interests, even if doing so means violating large groups of people's human rights.
https://www.change.org/p/kick-russia-out-of-the-un?signed=true
"With the current UN Membership, Russia is neither a part of the Security Council or a UN member. Russia is the only country which did not go through the procedure of being admitted into the UN, according to Article 4.
According to Article 23 of the UN charter, Russia is not a permanent member of the UN Security Council!
I am not sure what your source for this claim is, but it is not accurate. Russia is in fact a prominent member of the UN security council (source). Sure, it may be possible that some of the paperwork was not completed properly, however, if this is the case, this is the first I have heard of it. Regardless, I would refer to you BADecker's quote at the beginning of my post. "With the current UN Membership, Russia is neither a part of the Security Council or a UN member. Russia is the only country which did not go through the procedure of being admitted into the UN, according to Article 4.
According to Article 23 of the UN charter, Russia is not a permanent member of the UN Security Council!
What Russia is doing today in clear violation of the provisions of the United Nations, in that a country belonging to the United Nations invades another country that is a member of the United Nations, is not new. America did that when it invaded Iraq in 2003 despite the General Assembly condemning the invasion resolution, as well as the Security Council, but America did not listen to anyone.
It is the same as what Iraq did when it invaded Kuwait in the early nineties, but at that time the United Nations supported a resolution condemning Iraq and issuing resolutions to form a joint international force to deter it. Of course, what is happening against Iraq cannot happen against Mama America or any other great country, in particular those who have permanent seats in the Security Council.
It is the same as what Iraq did when it invaded Kuwait in the early nineties, but at that time the United Nations supported a resolution condemning Iraq and issuing resolutions to form a joint international force to deter it. Of course, what is happening against Iraq cannot happen against Mama America or any other great country, in particular those who have permanent seats in the Security Council.
The UN is a do-nothing organization. If member nations don't want to back what the UN says, the UN saying goes down the drain.
Russia doesn't care if they are kicked out. Through the sanctions, they are already out in any practical way. And with BRICS having already been formed, it is a second UN already, even though it isn't called such.
On top of that, before the sanctions, Russia was winning the trade war. That's why the US pushed the sanctions... to stop Russia winning in friendly trade.
I don't necessarily favor Russia, but the US has already conquered the American people through banking and taxes, and the US has conquered Europe in a similar way, and right now Russia is the only thing that is keeping the world free from US conquest.
Note that there is a difference between the US and the USA/America. The US is the government, and the USA/America is the people.
Russia doesn't care if they are kicked out. Through the sanctions, they are already out in any practical way. And with BRICS having already been formed, it is a second UN already, even though it isn't called such.
On top of that, before the sanctions, Russia was winning the trade war. That's why the US pushed the sanctions... to stop Russia winning in friendly trade.
I don't necessarily favor Russia, but the US has already conquered the American people through banking and taxes, and the US has conquered Europe in a similar way, and right now Russia is the only thing that is keeping the world free from US conquest.
Note that there is a difference between the US and the USA/America. The US is the government, and the USA/America is the people.
https://www.change.org/p/kick-russia-out-of-the-un?signed=true
"With the current UN Membership, Russia is neither a part of the Security Council or a UN member. Russia is the only country which did not go through the procedure of being admitted into the UN, according to Article 4.
According to Article 23 of the UN charter, Russia is not a permanent member of the UN Security Council!
The UN’s current charter says that the Soviet Union still exists, while Russia is not mentioned altogether.
We demand that Antonio Guterres and the UN DGACM exhibit documents certifying the Russian Federation’s membership in the UN. If such documents are absent — we demand an end of Russia’s fictitious membership in the UN.
Russia should be barred from the UN, as according to Article 4 of the UN charter, only peace loving nations can be part of the UN. Russia must stop waging an agressive war in Ukraine and return to its internationally recognized borders!
Such a course of action would remove Russia's UN veto power, which blocks many peaceful resolutions, and restore peace and order to the international community."
"With the current UN Membership, Russia is neither a part of the Security Council or a UN member. Russia is the only country which did not go through the procedure of being admitted into the UN, according to Article 4.
According to Article 23 of the UN charter, Russia is not a permanent member of the UN Security Council!
The UN’s current charter says that the Soviet Union still exists, while Russia is not mentioned altogether.
We demand that Antonio Guterres and the UN DGACM exhibit documents certifying the Russian Federation’s membership in the UN. If such documents are absent — we demand an end of Russia’s fictitious membership in the UN.
Russia should be barred from the UN, as according to Article 4 of the UN charter, only peace loving nations can be part of the UN. Russia must stop waging an agressive war in Ukraine and return to its internationally recognized borders!
Such a course of action would remove Russia's UN veto power, which blocks many peaceful resolutions, and restore peace and order to the international community."
Russia was never a member of the UN. They never applied to be a member of the UN.
Follow the rules, and kick them out. They can apply to become a UN member in the future, if they want
https://www.change.org/p/kick-russia-out-of-the-un?signed=true
"With the current UN Membership, Russia is neither a part of the Security Council or a UN member. Russia is the only country which did not go through the procedure of being admitted into the UN, according to Article 4.
According to Article 23 of the UN charter, Russia is not a permanent member of the UN Security Council!
The UN’s current charter says that the Soviet Union still exists, while Russia is not mentioned altogether.
We demand that Antonio Guterres and the UN DGACM exhibit documents certifying the Russian Federation’s membership in the UN. If such documents are absent — we demand an end of Russia’s fictitious membership in the UN.
Russia should be barred from the UN, as according to Article 4 of the UN charter, only peace loving nations can be part of the UN. Russia must stop waging an agressive war in Ukraine and return to its internationally recognized borders!
Such a course of action would remove Russia's UN veto power, which blocks many peaceful resolutions, and restore peace and order to the international community."
"With the current UN Membership, Russia is neither a part of the Security Council or a UN member. Russia is the only country which did not go through the procedure of being admitted into the UN, according to Article 4.
According to Article 23 of the UN charter, Russia is not a permanent member of the UN Security Council!
The UN’s current charter says that the Soviet Union still exists, while Russia is not mentioned altogether.
We demand that Antonio Guterres and the UN DGACM exhibit documents certifying the Russian Federation’s membership in the UN. If such documents are absent — we demand an end of Russia’s fictitious membership in the UN.
Russia should be barred from the UN, as according to Article 4 of the UN charter, only peace loving nations can be part of the UN. Russia must stop waging an agressive war in Ukraine and return to its internationally recognized borders!
Such a course of action would remove Russia's UN veto power, which blocks many peaceful resolutions, and restore peace and order to the international community."
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