Topic: Disable sign. camp. officially to prevent spam & know true value of merit system (Read 375 times)

Good catch !!!! I think you also reply here due to signeture campaign.

Can you explain me why yahoo post this thread ? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/disable-signaturesbounties-til-a-user-reaches-full-member-status-4631747

This thread posted by few days ago after my post. Why he didn't participate discussion on my thread ? Due to merit ? I think he have enough merit. So he should be reply here according to you. I have expose many scam ICO. My all thread has not merited. I stop finding scam ICO? Try to think positive. I have not copy or didn't get idea from other. I always share what is my mind. Please try to make constructive reply to motivate people instead of ridicule.

Because the guy is trying to earn merit. It's obvious and it's truly a good try, but the problem is that the topic is not new, just like you say, it was discussed on the forum already, and performed not so well to be merited.

It's quite funny that you want signature campaigns to be disabled and still carry one for which you might be getting paid. Yes, you want them to be disabled for junior members, but if you can't disable your signature then you shouldn't expect other members to do it.
Also spammers are present in all ranks. Disabling signatures on one rank won't generate "permanent" solution. After a while you will see that those junior members will rank up and then as members they will start spamming. Then we'll have requests to disable signatures for members!!

I think the merit solution is working quite good and spam has also reduced. But hoping that spam issue will be permanently resolved is only a dream. Plus, we will have to accept that most users are here for earning and not learning. And that basically just mirrors the current situation of crypto world. Most people in crypto world are just to make themselves richer. The original purpose of Bitcoin has mostly faded away.

As for spam due to signature campaigns, there is only one thing that we need to do. Make campaign managers responsible for spam generated by their participants. As simple as that. That will make managers choose the right participants. Most managers in Bitcoin section already follow this procedure. It's just the altcoin campaign managers which account for most of the spam on this forum. Directly target them for a feasible solution.

Did you ever visit on Patrol ? I don't think you visited. Check their how many newbie and Jr. Member spaming there there. I am not telling that other ranked people are not spaming, it might be very low. If you visit patrol you will find 99% spam by newbie and Jr. Member. So we can't consider other rank spaming due to 1% spam. Yes may be you find countless spaming by above member's.  But I find unlimited spaming by newbie and Jr. Members. Just visits patrol you will realize that matter. How wrong to blame specific rank? Because they are deserve it. I am not telling to ban them. I just asked to disable sign campaign up to Jr. Members. Once they will become member rank than they can join signeture.

If you ask me I would say, people who come to this forum to spam are very easily recognized. Here are a few things that you can look into them to understand if they are going to be a future shitposter or not :
1. Spamming the threads with a generic reply to increase post count.
2. Posting in threads which are already solved just to increase post count
3. Make up "Merit crybaby" thread to do some "pseudomeritbegging" in Meta.
4. Spamming the "Bounties (altcoins)" with Faceache and Twattar (no pun intended ) links.


Nobody is blaming a rank. Its just their personal opinion. You are not bound to agree to that opinion.

When somebody says newbie and Jr. Members are only responsible for spam, I do not know how to respond.

Is it self acknowledgement from that user that user spammed the forum till user become the member?
Is user again self acknowledging that as a Jr. Member,user was not able to bring anything positive so no one else can?

I personally feel it derogatory when some one blames newbies and Jr. member directly. I find  countless occasions where Members, full member and even Sr.Member  spamming and Copy Pasting in the forum.

I even saw fully ignorant responses from legendary too.

Blaming a specific rank is totally wrong.

@OP,  Do not take it personal and these 2 questions are valid for everyone who jump into conclusion that only Jr. Members/newbies are spamming.

• I highly doubt that it "prevents spam permanently" (I've seen a lot of spammers with a rank higher than a "Jr. member" + Not all of the lower ranked users, are spammers.
• theymos already ruled that out (not just for Jr. members):

• Welsh has a point (the main issue is managers that allow such users to join the campaigns that they're handling/managing.

I would disagree. If a signature/bounty manager is knowingly 'employing' spammers then they should be hit with repercussions too.  

I would assume the merit system would stand in their way. Using your words "keep spamming" they won't earn any merits, and thus won't rank up.

They maybe should be disabled for all ranks. However, it's hard to deny that Jr members are more prevalent with spamming because of how easy it is to make a jr member account.

If we are basing our assumption on their posting habits then they're life isn't hard at all.

Most of us can read, even such posts as his. It's not the fault of the campaign that its participant is spamming. There were numerous similar threads and the questions remained the same. Those are questions not only for OP, but also for those in favor of signature banning/disabling.
What makes you think that those jr. members won't keep spamming to get higher rank and finally be able to join a campaign?
Why only jr. members? If you believe that campaigns are to blame for the spam, ask for them to be disabled for all ranks.
They are already earning dust for their posts and risking a ban for spamming, their life is hard as it is.

OP is suggesting to disable the signature for Jr members globally.

Listen brother, I care about the members in the forum as much as I care about the forum.

Here are some friendly suggestions for you. The way you are trying to do things, you will be in the ignore list of others. Just read the reply from seoincorporation. Most of us will do the same except members like digaran. Their intellectual level is higher than the regular people like us, if fact they are people from another earth (mars may be  ). Stop doing this.

Mate just take a look at your English skills before writing such kind of stuff.
You have some posts like this one:

So, is clear you don't even get the rules in here (this kind of oversized texts are not well seen in here for it feels like if someone is screaming to you...)...

I think if you install Grammarly you can improve the way you write, maybe even you will understand the difference between "message" and "massage".

Regarding the proposal, I can't even fully understand what you mean by that: So I believe that if sign camp. disable officially from forum only for Jr. Members, it will help prevent spam permanently.
Do you mean the forum need to implement only Jr. Members as signature managers?
Or do you try to mean that Signature Managers should not allow Jr. Members to join a signature campaign?

So, you say the forum needs better posters?  WTF, man. Maybe you should start with yourself...


EDIT (a month later) This user has improved a lot since he wrote this post. I'm glad to see that one shitposter can become a good new user on the forum by helping others and creating good content. Congrats
I still don't agree with this post and also I don't understand why it has come back again to life, but whatever.

Reasones is added. If you reply on post there is low chance to read many people. If you create new post then many people will aware about it. And I didn't copy from any other user. I just write what I feel.

You have not explain anything new. Sorry mate.

Here is another one you created with nothing new...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/really-high-risky-submit-kyc-only-for-airdrop-stay-away-be-safe-4415347 <=== Really high risky submit KYC only for Airdrop. Stay away, be safe.

Why can't you just post in an existing topic?

PS: We already have a board without signature space where anyone can post. It's called Serious discussion. If you go there, you will see the same spamming. Ivory Tower is exceptional because you have to be a Full member before making a reply.

I don't know may be there is more similar post. But I will try to explain more about it.
I have main three reasones to request it:

• Prevent spam and shitpost
• To know true value of merit system
• To motivate for make HQ post

I think it's very important to disable signature campaign officially to prevent spam permanently. So that Jr. Members will never spam on forum.
Although I am reporting many spam post to moderator. But it's not doing many others. It's can't be parmanent solution.
On the other hand Jr. Members will know the true value of merit system.
If disable officially sign. camp. for Jr. they will try to make quality post for upgrade their rank.

Currently they have chance to participate sing. camp. so for reward they start make spamming even they don't know proper English. Even though some reputed managers didn't allowed them for sign. camp. But I think it's not enough to prevent spam.

So I believe that if sign camp. disable officially from forum only for Jr. Members, it will help prevent spam permanently.