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sr. member
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March 02, 2023, 04:25:57 AM
#43
Bounty Hunters are just members like us.  In as much as we should not descriminate amongst us, we should not look down on them, most of the bounty Hunters you see here are just hustlers, some are bread winner in their various houses and are making sure they are up to date with their activities so they could earn money for survival and also to cater for their needs and the needs of their families.  So therefore, you should do away with the mentality  of descriminatng  as well as segregation

They are indeed members, but at least they should do their part of participating in the discussion this is a Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency forum, and members are committed to partaking in the discussion but these bounty hunters are here to just submit reports and nothing else, I have seen bounty hunters with hundreds of post but not a single post on other sections except the bounty section and with no single merit.
They should include participating in the discussion as part of their activity here in Bitcointalk, its not really time-consuming 2 to 3 posts are already good and it will prove that they know something about Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency, not just reporting, some bounty hunters even blame bounty managers if the token they got has no values.  

In addition to what you've said, coming to the forum and being a bounty hunter is not the bad thing here, but going a against the rules is the purnishable offence, you can full your profile with bounty reports submission and no can can go against that as long as what you're submitting doesn't go against the rules as well, what you may not benefit is the forum growth in rank, knowledge about bitcoin and the forum itself not to talk about bitcoin which is the main purpose for everyone being here to discuss.
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March 02, 2023, 02:51:04 AM
#42
Bounty Hunters are just members like us.  In as much as we should not descriminate amongst us, we should not look down on them, most of the bounty Hunters you see here are just hustlers, some are bread winner in their various houses and are making sure they are up to date with their activities so they could earn money for survival and also to cater for their needs and the needs of their families.  So therefore, you should do away with the mentality  of descriminatng  as well as segregation

They are indeed members, but at least they should do their part of participating in the discussion this is a Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency forum, and members are committed to partaking in the discussion but these bounty hunters are here to just submit reports and nothing else, I have seen bounty hunters with hundreds of post but not a single post on other sections except the bounty section and with no single merit.
They should include participating in the discussion as part of their activity here in Bitcointalk, its not really time-consuming 2 to 3 posts are already good and it will prove that they know something about Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency, not just reporting, some bounty hunters even blame bounty managers if the token they got has no values. 
sr. member
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February 28, 2023, 08:44:04 AM
#41
If a newbie is coming to this forum on the basis of going for bounties he has failed already because bounty is not the main purpose for the creation of this forum, that means he's working inline with his own ambitious to quickly make some earnings from bounty hunts as quick as possible to after joining a bounty campaign if he's lucky not to be a scam, but the question we can ask here is that, what has this ki d of person contributed to the forums growth that may warrant him to receive merits or grow fast in ranks when all he's after is bounty chase.
legendary
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February 27, 2023, 01:02:40 PM
#40
I stand to be corrected anyway if my submission is not accurate.
You raised quite a number of interesting issues there. Some of which I've observed myself. On the restriction posting in the Altcoin board, I think it may not be solely a decision taken solely by the managers but in conjunction with projects they're promoting. It's a case of he who pays the piper calls the tune. I like your decision not to get into bounties. Trust me, most of the projects there are a waste of time. It's a regular occurrence there for hunters to get cheated out of their rewards, either by managers or the projects being promoted. Besides, token rewards are often worthless after payment as most of them don't eventually get listed on exchanges. The discrimination thing you talked about in respect to posting is because no one likes reading spam posts. I don't like it too. So, if I know or believe a particular section of this forum is highly dominated with spam posts; why would I want to visit it then?
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February 19, 2023, 09:28:47 AM
#39
Imagine you are in a college,which the purpose of building the school is to impact quality education on the students. Some set of boys, only go to school but they don't go into their classroom for studies. All they do is run errands for their teachers outside the school premises, just for them to get a candy. They will never be satisfied with one candy,so they will look for more teachers that they can run errand for,in order to get more candies.

If the family and friends of these students finds out that,they don't learn in school,they are always outside moving about,they wouldn't be happy with them. These students are also bringing bad reputation to their school. This is exactly who these bounty hunters are.
I'd like to know your country of origin, by the looks of it they are abusing the educational system by using kids to run errands in exchange of some candies. Go call your parents kid, I need to have a talk with them.

Your username though.lol
sr. member
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February 19, 2023, 09:13:49 AM
#38
Although I am not a bounty hunter and I don't think I will be one at least for now but a thorough observation reveals to me that bounty hunters and those who post in altcoins are being considered as unserious fellows.
Imagine you are in a college,which the purpose of building the school is to impact quality education on the students. Some set of boys, only go to school but they don't go into their classroom for studies. All they do is run errands for their teachers outside the school premises, just for them to get a candy. They will never be satisfied with one candy,so they will look for more teachers that they can run errand for,in order to get more candies.

If the family and friends of these students finds out that,they don't learn in school,they are always outside moving about,they wouldn't be happy with them. These students are also bringing bad reputation to their school. This is exactly who these bounty hunters are,they are chasing shadows instead of knowledge. Their contributions in  discussions the forum will broaden their knowledge,and will also teach someone, but instead they prefer to act like low lives,when they can get learn and become a miner,a trader or an investor in bitcoin. Bounty hunters need to wake up and see that they doing more harm to themselves or are they scared of learning.
Nobody is discriminating bounty hunters but they are the ones that brought discrimination to themselves by the choice they made,It is free world
legendary
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February 18, 2023, 04:48:02 AM
#37
Yes, Bounty Hunter certainly have a bad reputation. Especially those who participate in altcoin campaigns, cheat and spread shitpost. I don't want to deny that. But being discriminated against sounds very hard to me and I don't think it's discrimination here in the forum. If you were to discriminate against people per se, that would certainly have very different consequences. But as you say, they do have a bad reputation, but that's the fault of the bounty hunters themselves. This will certainly not change in the future.  Sad

Maybe I just perceive discrimination as something different than what is happening here in the forum. Discrimination is always an issue in germany and you can see the consequences again and again. But they are very different from the ones here in the forum.
legendary
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February 17, 2023, 08:43:13 PM
#36
The baffling thing is that the managers (mostly high rank members) who bring the work (bounty) received praises and merits but on the other hand, the participants (mostly low ranking members) who participates in the bounties are being regarded as a non serious members and money mongers. This is purely hypocrisy!

You should keep in mind that managers themselves in order to perform their job need to have a very good reputation, that reputation of theirs (most of the cases) is got through months or years of participation on other board where they receive merits and praise for being constructive members of this community. Not only that, they also must be trustworthy enough to manage thousands of dollars in both Bitcoin and altcoins responsibly.

There is a huge difference, don't you think?
legendary
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February 17, 2023, 01:05:37 PM
#35
People who take part are certainly not discriminated against across the board, in my opinion.
Discriminated against, probably not.  But bounty hunters have had a bad reputation for as long as I can remember, and I was probably a member when the first bounty was started (and I don't know when that was).  I'd also add that the negative rep was earned for at least two different things: shitposting up a storm and cheating by enrolling alt accounts in the same bounty.  Plagiarism among bounty hunters is or was a big issue, though that could be lumped in with the shitposting.

The baffling thing is that the managers (mostly high rank members) who bring the work (bounty) received praises and merits but on the other hand, the participants (mostly low ranking members) who participates in the bounties are being regarded as a non serious members and money mongers. This is purely hypocrisy!
You weren't born yesterday by any chance, were you?  Whatever praise and other shit the managers get, I've found that it's a good rule of thumb that most newly-registered bounty hunters are either alt accounts or are on a path that will only lead to them showering bitcointalk with their projectile diarrhea, and when you see enough of their nonsense posts you begin to realize that it affects the flow of reading for everyone and decreases the quality of the forum significantly.

TL;DR: Ain't got no sympathy for bounty hunters as a rule unless they've proven themselves NOT to be scumbags.
sr. member
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February 17, 2023, 06:35:32 AM
#34
Bounty Hunters are just members like us.  In as much as we should not descriminate amongst us, we should not look down on them


If the forum itself never look down on them, who are we to do so, as long as there's a board where they were all allowed to post in other to avoid spam and the more technical reason why they were being distinguished from other boards concerning bitcoin discussion, they have a high numbers of spammers no doubt and almost every newbies there will always be very eager in joining a bounty campaign hunt which you can't do that when participating in a signature campaign

most of the bounty Hunters you see here are just hustlers, some are bread winner in their various houses and are making sure they are up to date with their activities so they could earn money for survival and also to cater for their needs and the needs of their families.

No one us against their ambition or purpose to get some better opportunities out of the forum, but always remember that some of them were actually serious while alot of them aren't than constituting nuisance, that spamming and trolling is what the forum go against and that's what's been common with them, they should learn how to create value first and learn in other to have something they could deliver to the forum first.
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February 16, 2023, 06:09:16 PM
#33
Bounty Hunters are just members like us.  In as much as we should not descriminate amongst us, we should not look down on them, most of the bounty Hunters you see here are just hustlers, some are bread winner in their various houses and are making sure they are up to date with their activities so they could earn money for survival and also to cater for their needs and the needs of their families.  So therefore, you should do away with the mentality  of descriminatng  as well as segregation
legendary
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February 15, 2023, 11:29:25 AM
#32
Your question is very reasonable, bounty hunters are not considered serious because most of them post only to pursue weekly targets to qualify for payment. This forum has rules that must be obeyed. Actually they are not discriminated against, most (bounty hunters) post more that are labeled spammers because they have left the level that cannot be passed.

You can post anything here, but be prepared with all the consequences. Discrimination against bounty hunters because they just ride here to earn some money by making useless posts. If you want to be part of the people who are seen as influential, try to make a good contribution to the forum.
It should be good for self-introspection on what happened.
That discriminatory feeling is just a feeling of his inability to recognize the problem and fix it, and if he is able then nothing should really be discriminatory. Forum not a prison for the anyone, it means there are plenty of users willing to help them learn if they really really want to.

There is a great quote worth considering as a guide, it should definitely be useful to anyone looking to improve the quality of their posts. They can learn it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/signature-campaign-guidelines-read-this-before-starting-or-joining-a-campaign-1684035

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Helpful suggestions:

• Firstly, just put some actual thought into your posts. Actually read the thread and the replies already posted. Often-times people will just read the title of the thread and post without fully understanding the topic or issue and make either irrelevant posts or say the same thing that has been said numerous times before.

• If somebody asks a specific question and it gets answered adequately within the first post or two nobody needs to read another ten replies saying the same thing just reworded slightly. If you cannot offer any additional info or clarify/correct something then you probably don't need to post it.

• If you struggle with English it's probably best to try stick to your Local boards. Your English does not need to be anywhere near perfect and you will not be penalised for this but if people generally can't understand what you're saying then it will likely be considered unsubstantial or spam.

• Short replies are not always bad and long ones are not always good. Sometimes all that is required is a simple one word yes or no response, but stretching out an answer just to appear constructive usually has the opposite effect.
sr. member
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February 15, 2023, 10:50:14 AM
#31
Your question is very reasonable, bounty hunters are not considered serious because most of them post only to pursue weekly targets to qualify for payment. This forum has rules that must be obeyed. Actually they are not discriminated against, most (bounty hunters) post more that are labeled spammers because they have left the level that cannot be passed.

You can post anything here, but be prepared with all the consequences. Discrimination against bounty hunters because they just ride here to earn some money by making useless posts. If you want to be part of the people who are seen as influential, try to make a good contribution to the forum.
sr. member
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February 15, 2023, 07:12:40 AM
#30
The forum does not create any discrimination against any bounty hunters except for most of them which never ready to adhere strictly to the forum rules and regulations, bean a bounty hunter only signifies that you're most interested on altcoins abd there's nothing bad about it, this is why they all have a different segment for their bounty discussion threads, the reason why most of them were found in this category of cheating and going against the rules iss because they were mostly newbies and don't know much about the forum, bitcoin and crypto at large.
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February 13, 2023, 05:54:55 AM
#29
I don't have problems with bounty hunders. They may not be a problem to this forum if all they do is to copy and paste links of their bounty activities.
But in real sense, this is not what bounty hunters do. Most times these hunters spam the forum because they do not have idea of what is happening.
Also these hunters are cheaters and account farmers. I think I have seen where more than 10 accounts belonging to one person and they also try to enroll all their accounts in one campaign which is very bad.
As for altcoins, I don't think they recieve any kind of discrimination according to you.
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February 12, 2023, 03:37:26 PM
#28
I cant believe what im reading...

Man, you are a snowflake or something?. How you can come here and say the word "discrimination" in a forum who everybody can come and post and "work" asides of being a newbie?

The 95% of bounty hunters users are persons who only look to make some "easy" money and they doont give nothing intereseting to the forum, only spam.

About the manager man.... they bring the job to all the bountys... and if you look closely they are two types of manager, somes only do bounti related things and other only do signatures things. Only a few make the two things.

And  the managers are users who dont post shit they also make threads or post in other sections what are usefull.

So basically you are comparing a user who post regular content and good with other what only do its put a template with his wallet adress and spam some shitcoin.
But i dont know how you managed to create a discrimination in your head.

And yes in society are hierarchy, no matter if you like or not that.
legendary
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February 11, 2023, 02:32:32 AM
#27
Although I am not a bounty hunter and I don't think I will be one at least for now but a thorough observation reveals to me that bounty hunters and those who post in altcoins are being considered as unserious fellows.
Sure, many bounty hunters are hated but that's mainly because of how most of those users spend all their time in this forum.
Log in, check bounty campaigns, post bounty reports, and log out. Some of these users don't even bother to go out of the bounty section and post meaningful discussions; most just stay on the bounty section and spam PoAs and a tantamount of weekly reports.

Some time ago, I think around 2021, I required all the bounty campaign participants under my management to submit their weekly reports on google forms, basically removing those weekly reports from being plastered all over the bounty section and even made a personal blacklist of those who cheated on bounty campaigns; but, despite all those measures, there are still plenty of bounty hunters who do not comply and still blindly posts their weekly reports on bounty threads and cheating in any means they can (plagiarism, enrolling multiple accounts, etc.).
If I had a dime for every weekly report I deleted on the bounty threads under my management, I'd be rich by now.

Why is the altcoins board and bounty section created in the first place if those who participate in it are look down upon?
What most of the bounty hunters did after the bounty section was implemented was the root cause of that hate. If you want that to be gone, then advocate for the bounty hunters to change their ways and habits when they are in this forum.

What will happen if all or majority of the bounty participants stop participating? How do you all expect the managers to survive without having those to participate in the work they bring? A reputable manager Julerz12 just confessed that he has no side work aside managing a campaign (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61569155). How do you expect the likes of him to cope with daily living if hunters decide not to participate in bounty again?
I sent you a dm to remove my name here and not make me a bland example of how you wanted to discuss things in this thread but I guess you just don't care.
So, here's a bland answer for this too: We move on and find ways.
Do you really think a father like me would let my family starve just because there's no more bounty campaign? Well, thanks for judging and underestimating me.

Do you think project teams will keep on paying managers without seeing impact of promotion?
No; and this has already happened way before you even registered in this forum. Project teams asses and don't just blindly spend their precious funds on a promotional strategy that has no good results.

How can people be aware of new and upcoming projects without bounties?
The Crypto-space no longer revolves around this forums. Ever heard of social media platforms?

Unless the above questions are answered honestly and without bias then I don't think it is even necessary to look down on them.
People have their own views on everything and unless you make an effort to change those views, nothing will change.

I think we have two options here.
Firstly, If the forum doesn't like their activities, I think it would make sense to remove the entire bounty section so we all can focus on improving the forum as we claim to preach and overlook the repercussion it will cause to those affected and secondly, if the forum can not remove the section then it is necessary to tolerate their actions and allow the managers to deal with spammers. Unless it is technical, I don't see how ordinary and normal discussions improve the forum as we claim.
This just shows how new you are in this forum. Visit the Meta section, this has been discussed a thousand times already (exaggerating *).

We choose not to participate in bounties but they choose to. Let respect their choice.
Respect goes both ways, you should respect other people's opinions and views too, and rather than calling them hypocrites, you should have asked the reasons behind their views first.

I stand to be corrected anyway if my submission is not accurate.
A lot of inaccurate statements in your post, one of those is dragging my name here and nailing me on a board as an example. Thanks a lot.
legendary
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February 10, 2023, 09:42:47 PM
#26
The baffling thing is that the managers (mostly high rank members) who bring the work (bounty) received praises and merits but on the other hand, the participants (mostly low ranking members) who participates in the bounties are being regarded as a non serious members and money mongers. This is purely hypocrisy! If I may ask....

I understand your frustrations but do note that, you participating in bounty campaign won't give any merit and that's because your activities aren't contributing to the forum positively to receive merits. Now there's nothing wrong in participating in bounty but don't expect your posts to be highlighted with merits when they aren't worth it. What you're basically doing is just adding to the activity of the forum which the forum isn't against provided you aren't abusing such privilege. Now if you want to receive merits then you have to engage in real discussion where your contribution could be seen as helpful to others.

The managers you see with lots of merits didn't get that from launching bounties instead they got it from participating in on other forum activities so don't feel that they're been given a special treatment. If you noticed, if any of those managers misbehave they get punished. Without the trust worthy managers handling bounties today, the industry could have collapse due to scammers running away with rewards meant for hunters as we have seen in the past so those managers are needed to help purifier the section of the forum. When theymos (the forum) sees that there's no need for the section again, it'll be scrapped off the forum with just a click of a button and that decision will be respected by all.
legendary
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February 10, 2023, 02:05:40 PM
#25
There is a group here that is interested only in bounties and that isn't making a single post outside the bounty section, all they do is post their proofs and sometimes argue about not receiving payments, they don't interfere at all with the other discussions in other boards. I think those are not doing any harm at all, as long as you have the altcoin section on ignore you will never know that they exist, so I actually have nothing against them at all.
That's where we disagree. I am not a big fan of them. The harm they do is in the hundreds of spam bounty reports they post. But since theymos can stop that whenever he wants to by making it against the rules to post bounty reports on the forum, he obviously doesn't consider it a problem. That spam equals activity and traffic. So if he is fine with it, so am I. I still find automated-like members annoying and don't like them. 

The most troublesome are the ones that enter bounties that are required to make posts on other boards, often in areas where they have almost no clue what they talk about since most of them are not actually dealing with bitcoin at all but most with ETH or BNB and their tokens, so they don't even know how bitcoin works.
I guess I don't come across them that often, or when I do, I don't realize they are only there because their bounty requires them to be there. But yeah, they are an annoyance as well. Although, I could argue that you can also put them on ignore the moment you notice them talking about something they know nothing about. But it's bothersome nevertheless. 
legendary
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February 10, 2023, 01:13:17 PM
#24
There are two kinds of bounty hunters. There are those who ONLY do bounties and nothing else. You can recognize them as accounts having hundreds and thousands of posts without a single merit. And there are bounty hunters who partake in bounties and use the forum the way it was intended - talking and reading about Bitcoin.

The first group are a problem. Not a problem as much as they are useless to the functioning of the forum. Imagine going out with 5 friends. The four of you speak with each other normally and discuss various topics. The 5th one doesn't take part in your conversations, but he is a nuisance because he insists on barking out random words and sentences.

I don't think it's really accurate or fair to split them like this.
There is a group here that is interested only in bounties and that isn't making a single post outside the bounty section, all they do is post their proofs and sometimes argue about not receiving payments, they don't interfere at all with the other discussions in other boards. I think those are not doing any harm at all, as long as you have the altcoin section on ignore you will never know that they exist, so I actually have nothing against them at all.

The most troublesome are the ones that enter bounties that are required to make posts on other boards, often in areas where they have almost no clue what they talk about since most of them are not actually dealing with bitcoin at all but most with ETH or BNB and their tokens, so they don't even know how bitcoin works. These indeed, are really annoying, especially when they use translation and don't bother to read replies or go into necro-ing 5-10 years old topics. This is a different thing, but it's not only related to bounties, the yobit spam is proof every campaign bad managed can trigger such an issue.

So, maybe three kinds of?
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February 10, 2023, 12:33:45 PM
#23
Wow! I'm really impressed with the responds and clarification from you all though it seems some people are misunderstanding the post. I clearly stated in my post that I stand to be corrected and tbh I have been schooled.

This is how online interaction works, you should never expect people be too nice with you, especially when you make mistakes or post inaccuracies.
Get the useful part off it and ignore the rest; don't worry too much.
legendary
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February 10, 2023, 10:17:47 AM
#22
There are two kinds of bounty hunters. There are those who ONLY do bounties and nothing else. You can recognize them as accounts having hundreds and thousands of posts without a single merit. And there are bounty hunters who partake in bounties and use the forum the way it was intended - talking and reading about Bitcoin.

The first group are a problem. Not a problem as much as they are useless to the functioning of the forum. Imagine going out with 5 friends. The four of you speak with each other normally and discuss various topics. The 5th one doesn't take part in your conversations, but he is a nuisance because he insists on barking out random words and sentences. What's going to happen with this person with time? People will stop hanging out with him. That's your average bounty hunter. Posting links to his social media reports that don't help anyone. No one reads them and no one cares.

If you post in topics that interest you like a normal human being, people will take you seriously and care about what you have to say. If all you do is post links from your Twitter page without ever talking with anyone, what kind of response do you think you will see from the community? It can't be a positive one. It simply can't. 
It should not be allowed. I think members that only post here for bounties should be banned or limit the bounty board to only members who have received at least 1 merit in the last year that should stop the abuse. Some thing should be done about it because there are members here with 500+ posts that only post in bounties.

I know it brings views to the forum but they are artificial because I bet most of them are bots because it is a simple task to automate and why would you do it manually if you do not care about the forum any way you would automate it to save you time. I do not know why bounties are popular because most of the tokens are worth 0 at the end of the campaign.
legendary
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February 10, 2023, 10:02:26 AM
#21
There are two kinds of bounty hunters. There are those who ONLY do bounties and nothing else. You can recognize them as accounts having hundreds and thousands of posts without a single merit. And there are bounty hunters who partake in bounties and use the forum the way it was intended - talking and reading about Bitcoin.

The first group are a problem. Not a problem as much as they are useless to the functioning of the forum. Imagine going out with 5 friends. The four of you speak with each other normally and discuss various topics. The 5th one doesn't take part in your conversations, but he is a nuisance because he insists on barking out random words and sentences. What's going to happen with this person with time? People will stop hanging out with him. That's your average bounty hunter. Posting links to his social media reports that don't help anyone. No one reads them and no one cares.

If you post in topics that interest you like a normal human being, people will take you seriously and care about what you have to say. If all you do is post links from your Twitter page without ever talking with anyone, what kind of response do you think you will see from the community? It can't be a positive one. It simply can't. 
legendary
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February 10, 2023, 09:25:24 AM
#20
I have no problem with members that participate in bounties if they are contributing positively to the forum I hate when members sign up and do not contribute in any topics except for bounties that is just using this forum for personal gain and they are not part of the community. I wish bounties were removed from the forum because except for views they do not offer much to the community. Can 1 of the stats guys get how many active members have posted in a bounty topic but no where else in the last month?
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February 10, 2023, 08:47:54 AM
#19
Although I am not a bounty hunter and I don't think I will be one at least for now but a thorough observation reveals to me that bounty hunters and those who post in altcoins are being considered as unserious fellows. The baffling thing is that the managers (mostly high rank members) who bring the work (bounty) received praises and merits but on the other hand, the participants (mostly low ranking members) who participates in the bounties are being regarded as a non serious members and money mongers.

Let me be frank with you here that you're wrong from the perspective of how you're addressing this, show me one bounty hunter who has good profile on his post history that never get merited and i will admit then that you're right, wjen it's been said that most of them were spammers doesn't mean all were, if you also consider them to be most newbies, they just created account and rush up to join bounties which you dare not try that with signature campaign.

You can't obviously accept a participant that has no good profile to advertise your campaign and work with you, they may be inactive, spammers, trollers or even scammers, as a matter of fact, they also have their respective rules which if you can't afford it's not by force, all what every campaign manager would wanted is a good and active user profile that has interesting contributions, have you ever asked this question as well that why do bounties hunters always have nothing on their profiles than bounty threads?


This is purely hypocrisy!

No, you'd better not be sentimented about this, participating in campaigns is not a right, it's a choice likewise the manager decides who to work with him and not, so don't try to create being bias either.
legendary
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February 10, 2023, 07:18:47 AM
#18
Wow! I'm really impressed with the responds and clarification from you all though it seems some people are misunderstanding the post. I clearly stated in my post that I stand to be corrected and tbh I have been schooled.
You could have just gotten the fact instead of creating a thread like this, so many bounty hunters do not contribute to the health of this forum, a forum is a place of discussion and learning I would like to give you an example

See this profile I did not include the username but do check his activity how can a member of this forum had
1169 posts, 392 activity, has 0 merits he is still a newbie because he has no intention or motivation to rank up because those over 1000 posts are all bounty reports.

legendary
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February 09, 2023, 07:00:45 PM
#17
What will happen if all or majority of the bounty participants stop participating?
How do you all expect the managers to survive without having those to participate in the work they bring?
Do you think project teams will keep on paying managers without seeing impact of promotion?
How can people be aware of new and upcoming projects without bounties?

What will happen if all countries ban cryptos and prices plunge to zero?
What will happen if Theymos is arrested and the forum is seized?
What will happen if Satoshi comes back and says this is Bitcointalk, not Altcoins talk, and trashes the entire section?
What if Musk decided that all those accounts involved in bounties are against the ToS and bans every single one that is caught spamming 100 posts a day?
How have 7 billion survived to date without bounties, how is the entire world still spinning around even if "projects" are fewer and fewer and the payments lower and lower? You have some really weird egocentric view where you think this is the only way for things to still go on and the only way for some people to cling to hope for the better and a "raison de vivre". Well, it's not!

As for how can people be aware of new projects, hmm, how many bounties has Satoshi run for Bitcoin? Has Ethereum also run a bounty here?
We have 398 pages of bounties, do you think you can make more than one page of topics of coins that are still alive out of those?
You see, anyone can fire one hundred questions just as you did, do you have an answer for all of them?!

Let respect their choice.

Respect is earned, not given!
LE just to make sure:
A guy that wakes up at 4 am for the crappy low-paying job he has and does this every day without bickering once has all my respect, a guy that makes clicks 100 times a day and demands respect for that will not have any of it!
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February 09, 2023, 06:43:08 PM
#16
Discrimination Huh Wrong choice of words mate!

Truth be told, most users doing the bounty hunting hardly contribute towards the forum by engaging in a meaningful conversation, it's all about social media posts, eth addresses, and in some cases plagiarism! I suppose this is among the reasons such bounty hunters are easily classed as spammers, and of course not all of them fall into this bracket.

What will happen if all or majority of the bounty participants stop participating?
This one is easy, the forum will have less spam Roll Eyes

A reputable manager Julerz12 just confessed that he has no side work aside managing a campaign
You didnt have to drag his name into this because you were making a discrimination case and this kind of moves away from the topic at hand..

Firstly, If the forum doesn't like their activities, I think it would make sense to remove the entire bounty section so we all can focus on improving the forum as we claim to preach and overlook the repercussion it will cause to those affected and secondly, if the forum can not remove the section then it is necessary to tolerate their actions and allow the managers to deal with spammers.
So many great projects have come from that section of the forum & it's serving its purpose well if you ask me...Btw this also clearly shows that the problem isn't the board.. its the user's appetite for greed that has contributed towards the spam which many frown upon and has left a bad name for that board. Its about time users explored other parts of the forum as bitcointalk isn't only about bounty hunting.
sr. member
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February 09, 2023, 02:46:29 PM
#15
Wow! I'm really impressed with the responds and clarification from you all though it seems some people are misunderstanding the post. I clearly stated in my post that I stand to be corrected and tbh I have been schooled.
legendary
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February 09, 2023, 11:19:39 AM
#14
If I may ask....
You ask and discriminate too much, are all the questions important to you, then what's in it for you.

Just short.
• Altcoin/Bounty Board including crypto section, Bitcointalk didn't put it on the front, you are wrong to see Altcoin Board is the deepest and tip, Bitcoin discussion board is the main one, if you double check, not Altcoin/Bounty.
Participants are looked down upon, because they are stubborn, don't follow the manager's written rules, they like to do spam, instead of promoting campaign ads well, they do multi and spam. not all of them are looked down upon, many are considered authoritative and great.

• Participants who don't want to participate or stop in the Bounty campaign, that's a good thing, if it happens, Fact I don't see that right happening, they are like bees into the hive, if there is a new Bounty.
Let's say what you said happens, we will see companies will hire participants with Bitcoin fees, not with scam tokens, isn't that better.

I can only conclude two questions, in my opinion the other questions, more personal/individual in nature and more attacking towards someone, may not need to be answered.
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February 09, 2023, 11:01:02 AM
#13
OP, pls don't overjudge. In essence, high-rank members care about hunters even if they're sometimes too discriminatory (sorry about that), judgmental, rectifying, or defensive. So, that's how things are going around forum folks.

How do you all expect the managers to survive without having those to participate in the work they bring?
It's actually a personal choice and I think all managers know that there is no type of job in this forum that deserves to be the main job.
hero member
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February 09, 2023, 10:31:30 AM
#12
there is no discrimination on accounts joining the bounty campaign. what makes the difference is the spam post that is done. and I guess when you see that kind of spam and report it to the moderators, then it's over. moderators will take care of it.
not all accounts joining the bounty campaign are low ranked ones. those who join the signature bounty campaign also rank highly. it's just that such a campaign is very limited. I will not talk about other bounty campaigns. because most of the accounts that join do not make other posts outside of the bounty thread.
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February 09, 2023, 09:23:08 AM
#11
Although I am not a bounty hunter and I don't think I will be one at least for now but a thorough observation reveals to me that bounty hunters and those who post in altcoins are being considered as unserious fellows.
If you're not a bounty hunter why the concern, why are you not concern on the spam these bots are created in the forum

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Firstly, If the forum doesn't like their activities, I think it would make sense to remove the entire bounty section so we all can focus on improving the forum as we claim to preach and overlook the repercussion it will cause to those affected and secondly, if the forum can not remove the section then it is necessary to tolerate their actions and allow the managers to deal with spammers. Unless it is technical, I don't see how ordinary and normal discussions improve the forum as we claim. We choose not to participate in bounties but they choose to. Let respect their choice.
I stand to be corrected anyway if my submission is not accurate.
I am also a bounty hunter but compared to some bounty hunters they only post their reports they never roam around to check other sections and contribute to the discussion and many of them are not checking the project that they are promoting, I've seen bounty campaigns where bounty hunters continue posting their reports even though the campaign was tagged as a scam project, some accounts are bots all they care here is joining a campaign and creating reports, this is a forum and as a member it's your duty to contribute to discussions
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February 09, 2023, 07:32:52 AM
#10
It has nothing to do with discrimination. The truth is, most bounty hunters are just spammers, cheats involving bots and farms of accounts owned by a few individuals.
Haven't you seen posts made by bots?
Even when the bounty campaign has ended, they still continue posting Proof of authentication posts and reports. How can you not feel bad about such?
legendary
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February 09, 2023, 05:18:21 AM
#9
Why is the altcoins board and bounty section created in the first place if those who participate in it are look down upon?

Firstly, If the forum doesn't like their activities, I think it would make sense to remove the entire bounty section

the bounty section was created to keep spammers in one place. before the separation of the bounty section, it was almost impossible to have a constructive discussion, especially in ANN threads.

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Why are managers still bringing bounties despite bashing the participants of not contributing to the forum positively aside bounties?

Not everyone who manages a bounty campaign is a manager. only a few of them will refuse to run a campaign if they think it is a potential scam project.
and the answer to your question is that they are greedy, like most bounty hunters.

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What will happen if all or majority of the bounty participants stop participating?

I would like to see that.

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Do you think project teams will keep on paying managers without seeing impact of promotion?

most of those "projects" are just rubbish and just try to get easy money. the effectiveness of the bounty campaign is not that important to them.
if we look at the fact that 99% of projects are scams, then hunters can be considered as accomplices in fraud.

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How can people be aware of new and upcoming projects without bounties?

The bounty program is just a small part of marketing promotion. things happened even before that and there are various other ways of promotion. The mass opening of bounty campaigns, where the participants are automated multi-accounts, led to a complete drop in the quality of this kind of promotion.
ask yourself about the quality of what hunters offer with posts like "nice project", "good job"...

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We choose not to participate in bounties but they choose to. Let respect their choice.
I stand to be corrected anyway if my submission is not accurate.

it's hard to give them respect because they appear everywhere with their empty stories just to fill the campaign quota. if they only stuck to their sections, no one would have a problem with them.
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February 09, 2023, 05:08:48 AM
#8
FYI, forum treats everyone same either they are bounty hunters or High quality poster cause the same rules applies for everyone no matter what. And I can't say everything in the Altcoin board is completely spams there are very few which has actual discussion is going on but compared to number of those Post with the posts made only for completing the campaign post requirement quota then it comes anywhere near.

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February 09, 2023, 04:51:16 AM
#7
I don't like spammers, which includes bounty spammers. If you want to call that discrimination, I'm fine with that.
legendary
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February 09, 2023, 04:48:24 AM
#6
I would argue. Since I often watch bounty sections, I can say that if we see accounts honestly participating in bounties that do not violate any rules, no one will ever accuse them of being useless. I will say more. You are not speaking here in a completely quiet tone, but with some kind of pretension. But what can you say about the fact that it is allowed to have several accounts here? Is this discrimination?

Yes, participation in a bounty from one account will not bring a lot of money, and most often it will not bring anything. But bounty hunters are so greedy that when they have multiple accounts, they don't know how to handle them properly. I'm more than sure that everyone who participates in the bounty has several accounts, but some are so stupid that you just can't close your eyes to them.

Therefore, lower your ardor and the role of Robinhood. There are rules; if you please, follow them. Tell me, on what other forum can I participate with several accounts and at the same time receive some money?
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February 09, 2023, 04:42:12 AM
#5
I stand to be corrected anyway if my submission is not accurate.

Your "submission" is, first of all, a wall of text. If you want to be taken seriously you should start with making posts that can be read effortlessly.

Then, your premises are incorrect. The fact that it's especially lower rank members jumping in without second thought into bounties is their own fault. If they would not be so keen to see posting as a means of income and just use the forum as a forum (and see the income for their posts as a bonus) then everything would be better. But that comes with experience, and with experience the better rank also is there.

So imho the participants are looked down upon because of their own behavior.
Plus, it's not the bounty managers those who bring new bounties. It's the various projects and businesses. The bounty managers only manage all that.
You have so many questions it's difficult to answer them all. I wish the bounty hunters come to their senses someday and think before joining to campaigns. Maybe some campaign managers will have tough days for a while, but afterwards the things may get better: better managers, meaningful payments, better rules too ... because I expect huge levels of meaningless posts in those campaigns.

Unless it is technical, I don't see how ordinary and normal discussions improve the forum as we claim.

I've seen plenty of meaningful discussions without being technical. The fact you don't see that, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
This being said, I think that your... proposals are based on incorrect fundaments, but I admit, I didn't read carefully every word you've written.

Plus, I don't understand your problem:
* Is it that some bounty hunters are not being accepted to campaigns? Well, maybe better ones got accepted and the (limited!) places got filled?
* Is it that they spam too much? Report the spam at sight!
* Is it that some bounty hunters or bounty managers see this as a daily job? It's a risk they take and it can easily turn bad. But it's their choice.


This is a forum. You know, a place people discuss.. preferably about bitcoin and altcoins. Somehow far too many keep forgetting that... sadly.
legendary
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February 09, 2023, 04:28:06 AM
#4
The forum is as free as possible, if anybody wants to be a bounty hunter, it is up to them and the admin are not going to stop people from participating in bounties, but when people say they are not contributing positively to the forum, that is very correct. This is a discussion forum, and the 'work' that most bounty hunters do is outside of the forum, they only use the forum to post reports of what they did on other platforms, meaning they are not involved in any discussion in the forum. If everyone in the forum was posting only bounty reports, the forum would be a pile of shit right now. Members can do bounties if they like, but don't argue that it isn't a positive to the forum.
Unless it is technical, I don't see how ordinary and normal discussions improve the forum as we claim.
It improves the forum because that is what the forum is for, there are other sides to BTC than its technical aspect. E.G guding newbies how to store their BTC, helping to answer questions, and warning that centralized exchanges aren't banks, etc, all aren't technical discussions, but they are important and worthy to be discussed, and way better than posting only bounty reports.
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February 09, 2023, 04:14:40 AM
#3
Such a lengthy post but I don’t see the proof of discrimination towards bounty hunter here. I once bounty hunter and just improve my post to participate signature campaign on Bitcoin service board. I never experienced any discrimination during my bounty hunter days. I’m wondering what kind of discrimination you can get by just participating on campaign without doing any shit work here in forum.

Maybe some people here generalized bounty hunter as shit poster because most of the bounty hunter is indeed shit poster if you check their post quality. If you are just doing fine, You can just ignored those comment about bounty hunter if you are not the one who’s being addressed.
legendary
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February 09, 2023, 04:06:06 AM
#2
I think bounty campaigns just have a bad reputation as there are many scam bountys and many people who participate have more than one account. Therefore they have a bad reputation, although certainly not all are bad.

People who take part are certainly not discriminated against across the board, in my opinion. These people can also make a good contribution to the forum if they want to. Just because you participate in a bounty campaign, you can still make good posts or help other people in the forum.

Unfortunately, the majority of bounty participants are only interested in how they can make money. They don't want to help other people or make good contributions. Therefore they usually have more than one account. When you find these people who have more than one account and are cheating on both good and bad bounty campaigns, it is more than fair to punish such people. But that has nothing to do with discrimination.

Bounty campaigns are both a curse and a blessing for the forum. Therefore, you should not remove them from the forum. At least that's my opinion on it.  Smiley
sr. member
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February 09, 2023, 03:36:16 AM
#1
Although I am not a bounty hunter and I don't think I will be one at least for now but a thorough observation reveals to me that bounty hunters and those who post in altcoins are being considered as unserious fellows. The baffling thing is that the managers (mostly high rank members) who bring the work (bounty) received praises and merits but on the other hand, the participants (mostly low ranking members) who participates in the bounties are being regarded as a non serious members and money mongers. This is purely hypocrisy! If I may ask.... Why is the altcoins board and bounty section created in the first place if those who participate in it are look down upon? Why are managers still bringing bounties despite bashing the participants of not contributing to the forum positively aside bounties? What will happen if all or majority of the bounty participants stop participating? How do you all expect the managers to survive without having those to participate in the work they bring? A reputable manager Julerz12 just confessed that he has no side work aside managing a campaign (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61569155). How do you expect the likes of him to cope with daily living if hunters decide not to participate in bounty again? Do you think project teams will keep on paying managers without seeing impact of promotion? How can people be aware of new and upcoming projects without bounties? Unless the above questions are answered honestly and without bias then I don't think it is even necessary to look down on them.
I think we have two options here.
Firstly, If the forum doesn't like their activities, I think it would make sense to remove the entire bounty section so we all can focus on improving the forum as we claim to preach and overlook the repercussion it will cause to those affected and secondly, if the forum can not remove the section then it is necessary to tolerate their actions and allow the managers to deal with spammers. Unless it is technical, I don't see how ordinary and normal discussions improve the forum as we claim. We choose not to participate in bounties but they choose to. Let respect their choice.
I stand to be corrected anyway if my submission is not accurate.
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