Topic: Dispelling Misconceptions: Why Bitcoin has Room to Rise (Read 4982 times)

I agree. For bitcoin's growth, I like the model advocated by rpietila: an S curve, where in the early stages, price grows exponentially, with lots of superimposed noise. As time progresses, we should expect the noise (the fluctuations around the trendline) to decrease. Past data fits this model, with a doubling time of 3 to 4 months. But at some point the growth decelerates and stops. Where, and when? The data so far does not indicate even a hint of deceleration -- in fact, even with the decrease in price of the past few days to $700 (right now), we are still way above the price predicted by the trendline (around $300 ish), which means that we probably still have a long way to go.

All of the above assumes that there are no black swan events or major unexpected developments. The statement by the Chinese government that bitcoin is a commodity not a currency, btw, does NOT count in my book as particularly unexpected. I mean c'mon, what did we really expect them to do???

Yeah and that is tough. The velocity of bitcoin is definitely a variable. But part of it will depend on the growth of bitcoin, how many new users are there, how many new ways are there to spend bitcoin, and from my understanding it is impossible to get figures for these.

I think it is clear that if the user base stayed static, bitcoin would be worth far less than 1000/btc. But bitcoin is just beginning to take off. There will be plenty of crashes along the way to a "fair value", but as long as bitcoin is growing fast the price should be going up rapidly. I am assuming on a few million people use bitcoin, and the number of potential users is in the hundreds of millions.

Even though I made the critique, I'm not sure how to fix it. It is the zillion dollar question: how do we calculate the target price of BTC? What variables do we need? I think the velocity of bitcoin needs to be a variable, and any estimate that does not have that as part of the calculation is suspect to me; that's as far as I've gotten ...

I'm surprised the price hasn't plummeted much lower than this.  I was expecting 500 or 600 by now with all the chickens running around.  Maybe we'll see that this weekend.  Hope you all have some fiat ready.

Very well written. Thanks for posting. I think I'll read your blog.

Speaking of Visa, bitcoin has the same intrinsic value that the Visa system has. It's a vehicle to facilitate purchases.

The Chinese government's ban on certain trading activities is certainly bad for bitcoins growth in that country with 1B+ people, but I think there is enough growth potential in just the U.S. to justify a 1000/ btc price.

Its true those two numbers are not directly comparable and that is a weak point of the article.  What I was trying to demonstrate was how small the Money Supply of bitcoin is compared to the moneyflowing through the major payment processors.

Many merchants dislike the fees imposed by Visa ect and Bitcoin can offer an alternative to these services. If Bitcoin was to become a major form of payment then its market cap would have to rise substantially.

I agree with you that bitcoin still has room to grow. But when it comes to calculate how high, why is it that the two numbers in the quotation above are comparable? Why do you choose Visa's credit purchase volume totaled over a year, as opposed to a month, a week, a day, a decade .... ?

Logic and reason on this forum?  Unheard of!

Nice analysis.

I award this thread "Two Thumbs Fresh"!

Dispelling The Rumors: Why Bitcoin May Have Room To Rise

As Bitcoin breaches $1,000 a coin dozens of die hard libertarian fanatics and some enterprising speculators have become instant multimillionaires off of investments as small as a few hundred dollars.

The mania has incurred endless speculation, including bold pronouncements and lots of criticism. For some Bitcoin is the new gold or the future currency of the world. For others it is a Ponzi scheme or a bubble reminiscent of the Dutch tulip craze. In truth it is neither of these extremes, and I will attempt to explain and determine Bitcoin's value through a rational evaluation and by dispelling misconceptions.

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Misconception: Bitcoin has no intrinsic value

Bitcoin does have some intrinsic value based on its unique properties as an unregulated financial product that can be transferred very easily and cheaply. For example it allows for participation in set of online retailers and service providers that don't accept any other type of payment such as online gambling websites. It also facilitates fast, global transactions with 0 to minimal fees, which SF based, venture backed Bitcoin exchange Coinbase believes will help it gain favor with merchants who are unhappy with high credit card fees. Although currently only a fraction of users have Bitcoin for its intrinsic value (and the majority have it for speculative purposes), Bitcoin does have value as a medium of exchange. Thes value propositions combined with a fixed quantity and an expanding user base give it room to grow.

Misconception: The Dutch Tulip Analogy

Bitcoin is similar to the dutch tulip bubble analogy in that both Bitcoin and 1630's tulips are heavily speculated on "commodities" with little intrinsic value. However a key difference between the two is that the quantity of Bitcoins is capped at 21 million, whereas tulip production is more or less unlimited. This cap decreases the likelihood of an extreme crash and allows Bitcoin to appreciate in value as more people become interested in the currency. Another key difference is that tulips are an old invention and likely weren't seeing massive global adoption for their intrinsic value in 1630's Holland. On the other hand, Bitcoin is barely 5 years old and has only came into the media limelight two years ago. Its prospects for increasing adoption are immense and should serve as a means to drive up price.

Misconception: The Ponzi Scheme Analogy

Bitcoin is very similar to a Ponzi scheme in that early adopters of the coin can earn millions of dollars and that Bitcoin relies on an ever increasing user base to allow speculators to make money. The key difference between a Ponzi scheme and Bitcoin is that while fraudulent Ponzi scheme investments have a value only insofar there are new investors, Bitcoin has some intrinsic value. As soon as there is no longer growth in new user acquisition the price of Bitcoin will fall dramatically, but never to zero, as there will be some users who use it for its intrinsic value.

Misconception: The Gold Analogy

Bitcoin is actually surprisingly similar to gold. There is a fixed supply of both Bitcoins and gold, both Bitcoin and gold have some intrinsic value, and both Bitcoins and gold are both heavily invested in for speculative purposes. The key difference between Bitcoin and gold, is gold's position as a medium of exchange and store of wealth for millennia, combined with the assumption that a greater percentage of gold is used for its intrinsic values in semi-conductors and in jewelry versus speculation.

Determining the real value of Bitcoin

It is impossible to determine the number of Bitcoin users and how much Bitcoin is being used for speculation versus how much is being used for its intrinsic value. Likewise it is impossible to measure exactly how many people are using Bitcoin and what the growth in user acquisition is. However because Bitcoin is still a new technology, and the lack of Bitcoin infrastructure created large barriers to entry up until recently, it is likely the Bitcoin user base still has room to grow substantially.

As long as the Bitcoin user base is growing (and purchasing Bitcoins) faster than speculators cash out, Bitcoin will be continue to rise in value. Eventually when the user base stops growing the balance will shift and there will be more sellers. This will trigger a massive decline in Bitcoin until it reaches a more stable value. If Bitcoin's lower merchant fees and other value propositions make it into a widely accepted form of payment it still could settle at a very high value. Bitcoin's market cap of approximately 12 Billion dollars is dwarfed by Visa's credit purchase volume of $981 billion for 2012. Based on what we know about Bitcoin, my prediction is Bitcoin will continue to rise in value for the next 1-5 years as new user acquisition continues rise.

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