Topic: Do atheists find a decentralized system natural or favor it more than theists? (Read 154 times)

One little problem with this thinking... cause and effect.

Every little atom in the universe moves to some extent. And when it moves, it bumps atom2 somewhere along the line. The way it bumps the atom2 is what causes the atom2 to move the way it does... which causes atom3 to move the way it does. If any of these atoms had moved slightly differently, they would have cause the next atom to have moved a little differently, and the universe would be different than it is.

If we say that the atoms move randomly, it's only because the complexity is so great that we don't understand, can't track the movement of the atoms. It isn't because the movement is random at all! The movement is completely just as it has been dictated to be right from the start. There is nothing random in the universe at all.

What is there that could cause such complexity in the universe, that after thousands of years we have intelligence as great as that in mankind? Sounds to me like there had to be intelligence behind the whole universe, and an intelligence that is greater than the whole universe.

A car is quite a wonderful machine. But it is quite dumb. Just talk to it sometime, and see what kinds of answers you get from it. Yet there is great intelligence that has gone into the making of every car. Did you get any answers when you talked to dumb universe?

I think it's a valid comparison; I can see why the two can be linked.
I much prefer a decentralised system.
I suppose with religion, in the binary opposition I'm an atheist rather than a theist, in that I don't believe that a God exists... but my stance is more that even if a God exists and can be proven to exist, I don't think they should be worshipped. To worship something, anything, is to relinquish your own identity as a sentient being. We have a responsibility to question everything and not take anything for granted. We shouldn't just defer all of our ideas and decisions to a higher power, whether hypothetical or not.

So my opinion really is that decentralisation maps not so much to a lack of belief in God, as to a belief that there should not be an overarching central power (whether it exists or not).

Not necessarily. Just look at their politics. There are agnostics/atheists/irreligious that abhor big government while there are those in favor of it.

Not believing in a supreme being doesn't automatically mean you are more in favor of less control.

I believe I am born theist but I was raised into a harsh world and grew up to be an atheist, though I think I am in the confused stage, whether to believe or not to believe. I think Atheist or Theist, there is nothing wrong since what we are really aiming is a transaction that don't need third parties or the government or banks interfering.

You may actually have a point here, but there is a huge difference between a supreme creator, that which theist believe in, and a ruler, most probably a government head(president etc)

Theist see their creator as pure infallible,supernatural and supreme, thus they follow his doctrines as a method of achieving the paradise he creates or created, but I do not think it's applicable to society as our rulers aren't any of that.
As a matter of fact they are the exact opposite, corrupt, suckling fingers, nepotic, they impoverish their citizens and enrich themselves.
So theist, just like atheist can likewise seek for a decentralized system to get away from all this menace of the government, which happens to be the head/ruler.

As an agnostic (more inclined towards atheism), I believe that atheism is more inclined towards a decentralized world and system.

Since there's no belief in a supreme creator, judge or controller for the universe, it's natural for atheists to believe that the universe works by its own rules automatically without anyone interfering in it.
That opens the door for them to consider decentralization as natural and ultimate because the universe itself is decentralized and uncontrolled and hence that should be the ideal system!

Contradictorily, in theism, there's a supreme judge or controller (call him any name) and he's believed to have the highest morals and to be followed and hence not decentralized and thus, the model of an ideal system should have a controller and checker who should be trusted, like in world systems and especially in financial systems, it is the government and banks, like for the universe it is God.

It's my opinion, I don't want to offend anyone or any group be it atheism or theism.

I just kinda imagined a relationship between atheism and how it holds decentralization as ideal

What do you think?