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If you want to make a better paltform for gambling sites and wanna see more traffic then you should do this. License can help you to make the customers understand that they are in the right place and their assets are safe here which is the most important thing in gambling.
License is a necessary to be honest but in my country, having one costs an arm and a leg, it is definitely worthy though as we all know, it makes you immune to legal persecution. Online though, I do think that it will be different as some sites could just get their website secure and make it look legitimate, I do not think that online gambling is not that necessary as long as you deliver the services.
You know, people do believe easily on physical transaction because they can face it. But in online, it is not established and still it is difficult to trust someone in these days. For gathering trust, license can help you a lot. Though you have to pay a huge amount to get this but you should do it to established a global gambling sites.

In mu country, it isn't actually legal but we the people are using it without giving our identify. So do it from a legalized country where it is accepted.
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You should state if where you are from so you can start there, if you country offers a license to casinos then you can apply a license in your country and with regards to other country customers that you like to target.

There are some countries that are very strict with their players like US and etc. so if you like to accept players coming from those countries then you should file some legal requirements for sure in order to make your casino legal. But for starter, you can just file a license in your country then hire a good lawyer that will handle the license problem to other countries if your casino will become more and more popular.
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Gambling site should be licensed as it gives credit to the site and trust for other clients. In some case to license a gambling site could be as a function of the site host not wanting the site to the access in some specific Geographical locations. Many site don’t open from particular location because of the particular command the site host has licensed to the gambling and a lots of factors can influence site being under licensed.
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Seek legal advice or consult a lawyer regarding your concern, even most people here are well versed in gambling, only a few know about operating a casino. I agree with some posts that each country has its legislation or law about gambling so you must think of what countries are you plannig to run your online casino to avoid any legal obligations in the long-run.
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License is a legal basis for you to consider, gamblers much appreciate that if they see it. A sort of encouragement, they'll think that they are secure and you as well.
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The license is not for pleasing their users. It is for operating legally in a country. Can you legally run a business without a trade license? Nope. Your illegal business will be shut downed, you will be fined and may also have to serve a sentence of a year or two or even more depending on the severity of your case. Without a license the government won't be able to properly regulate the casino, hence they won't even know if you are paying the government properly or not.
And yeah, if its a regulated casino with a license, the users will also have a chance to enforce their rights when necessary.
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I don't really think that license is necessary to have before establishment of site, but in addition I will like you to follow the opinion of Juggy777 it will make you to gather necessary information about your objective.

Gamblers like to play in a site where it is compliant, it added credibility to the gambling site making them appear legit and they are protected by the government where they are operating, everything is all about ease of existence and playing for the gamblers, if the government wants to have information about your site it is to protect the gambler, and the certification is big marketing for  gambling site
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If you can show a license to the community, they never think that they had come into illegal site.
Is this necessary? Absolutely, YES.

License is a legal basis for you to consider, gamblers much appreciate that if they see it. A sort of encouragement, they'll think that they are secure and you as well. Do you want your business to seize by the authorities since your intention is good? I don't think so and it is your duty and obligation to do secure that and for the welfare of everyone involved.
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If i wanted to create a crypto gambling site would i need to get a license in the countries where my customers would come from?

as in if i targeted people in the UK would i need a UK license?

or is the crypto space exempt from the licensing as it's not "fiat"

and if a licence is needed would i need one for each country i want my site to be used in or just one in general?

i realize this might be a nooby question but i wanted to ask as i don't know much about the legal side of the gambling scene.
I don't really think that license is necessary to have before establishment of site, but in addition I will like you to follow the opinion of Juggy777 it will make you to gather necessary information about your objective.
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As many members say, it is better to have a license for a crypto gambling site, just in case to avoid any problem that could happen in the future. That can trust people who visit the site, and people will believe that the site will not scam them in the future. Maybe that can boost their reputations among the other crypto gambling site because people will see that their business have a license.
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You can get a license but not to the countries where your customer comes from, you need to get a licence from your own country because it is the gambling site (business) that needs the license to avoid headaches in the future regarding about legal matters in your country. You also don't have to get a license if you want since it's just a crypto gambling site, a license is just a key to be in the safe zone.

The only disadvantage of getting a license is the tax that you're going to pay to the Government monthly, but since it's a gambling site, I guess it won't matter that much if you'll have many people playing in your gambling site.
imagine if it work that way where gambling sites need to get license for every single country that they want to support i think thats crazy and most of them cant do it but they will end up with few costumers only and there are others that will try to acquire more license for other countries to get more costumers and about the tax it will now change and the cut for tax arent going to be the same anymore just to be fair  .

for now only old casino mostly have a license but newer casino doesnt have yet but they are still playable
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You can get a license but not to the countries where your customer comes from, you need to get a licence from your own country because it is the gambling site (business) that needs the license to avoid headaches in the future regarding about legal matters in your country. You also don't have to get a license if you want since it's just a crypto gambling site, a license is just a key to be in the safe zone.

The only disadvantage of getting a license is the tax that you're going to pay to the Government monthly, but since it's a gambling site, I guess it won't matter that much if you'll have many people playing in your gambling site.
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If you want to make a better paltform for gambling sites and wanna see more traffic then you should do this. License can help you to make the customers understand that they are in the right place and their assets are safe here which is the most important thing in gambling.
License is a necessary to be honest but in my country, having one costs an arm and a leg, it is definitely worthy though as we all know, it makes you immune to legal persecution. Online though, I do think that it will be different as some sites could just get their website secure and make it look legitimate, I do not think that online gambling is not that necessary as long as you deliver the services.
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If you want to make a better paltform for gambling sites and wanna see more traffic then you should do this. License can help you to make the customers understand that they are in the right place and their assets are safe here which is the most important thing in gambling.
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if i use crypto gambling website in for internet costumers i need all countries license? or i need filter countries? or i dont need for crypto gambling website license

Better to have license and not necessarily in overall countries.. Having one in local would already be enough to justify your legitimacy and that will surely create some confidence and security towards your potential users..

When it comes to filtered countries then it will always depend on countries jurisdiction both on where you lived and on potential users that will play into the site.
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Very few countries provide with legal support for the development and implementation of gambling. As the online gambling sites too requires certain norms to be fulfilled, they register with those particular countries. This will let the gambling sites progress and gain the trust of users while there are lots of un registered gambling sites which scams people.
Un-registered gambling sites is very risky but if the OP want’s to make a legal business then he should be more patience and of course it will need a lot of money. I don’t know the process on your place but if you want to make a trusted gambling sites then having a license is a good choice for you.
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Easy, there are two obvious choices:

Curacao
Costa Rica


In Curacao you can for instance contact this company > http://www.igamingbusiness.com/directory/emoore
I can guarantee you'll be allowed to accept Uk residents (worked in such a company before).
Famous bookmakers such as Pinnacle are licensed in Curacao (I think they have a license in Malta too).

About Costa Rica, I am not sure what they ask exactly but Nitrogensports is licensed there, and famous bookmakers such as 5Dimes have a license there (which surprisingly allows them to accept US residents).

in Europe you can also check Montenegro (rather than Malta).





PS: @ everyone, please stop replying if you have no clue, it is not helpful. Thanks.
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Depends on the country you found the company.

But all and all, you don't "need" one. You can stay illegal, not pay taxes and be off with it.

License would come handy for the potential customers.

I think he can choose the hosting company that doesn't prohibit gambling so he can register the domain and the hosting at the same time and he can continue to build the website. but if he wants to buy the gambling site, then maybe he can move the hosting with the other hosting that doesn't have any prohibition about gambling site. but it is better to have a license to run gambling site because you will be safe to manage your gambling site and don't have to worry.
Yes that is right to register a gambling sites a person need t fulfill all the document and after that they can expect to get a license from their government to run a online casino legally. And on then the gamblers will come to play gambling there. Otherwise they will not trust on their online casino.
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The best advise for you to visit a consultant to help you. Do remember where you take license should be a bitcoin friendly country. Plus figure out all the taxes as this is one complicated procedure you better get pros involved to help you out. I mean, calculate all pluses and minuses then create website!
For me, opening such kind of business isn’t very helpful. Even I don’t have any interest in such businesses because I can’t earn by harming others. Profits and losses are integral part of game and it happens in different respectable earning sources as well. But no one harm other person in such drastic way where he isn’t able to do anything else. So don’t chose such sort of fluffy businesses.
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Simply you don't need a license of any kind .However, it would be nice to have one if you can afford one as it will be like an advantage over other sites and would attract many whales who can be afraid of betting too high.
you could try getting one from any of Caribbean countries where taxes are low and laws ain't very tight.
I think such countries where gambling is legal there you must have to get license from your government or from concern authorities to star and run a casino. In such places gambling is not legal there you can run a casino illegally.

Islands always have low taxes for various businesses, banks or casinos, many of them have headquarters on islands due law taxes and like you said not so tight laws. But you have countries that accepts licences from such islands, and the ones that refuse them. When you are planing to open casino you need to have your targets, where you plan to spread your business and to work under their laws, what ever they are. When it comes to crypto situation isn't much different, you need to work under the laws of the country where you plan to run your business, but with crypto you can always skip some regulations, you don't need to register anywhere, but not everyone will be able to gamble on your site, but with for and VPN people can bypass everything and gamble on your site from anywhere.
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Simply you don't need a license of any kind .However, it would be nice to have one if you can afford one as it will be like an advantage over other sites and would attract many whales who can be afraid of betting too high.
you could try getting one from any of Caribbean countries where taxes are low and laws ain't very tight.
I think such countries where gambling is legal there you must have to get license from your government or from concern authorities to star and run a casino. In such places gambling is not legal there you can run a casino illegally.
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In my country gambling is not legal, but still there are so many people who are running physical casino, although it is difficult because they have to face the law and forces agencies, it is rather easy to run a online casino where the government cannot stop you so easily.
In my country gambling is only illegal in public places. There are the right places where you can gamble but you're not allowed to just gamble on the streets. I think the same thing is what's going on in your country since there will no physical casino if gambling is totally banned. I think it's the government's way to accumulate all of the taxes from gambling instead of having to go through small scale gambling casinos.
it is rather easy to run a online casino where the government cannot stop you so easily.
While that is true and that will definitely allow you to bypass the government, being an anonymous owner of a gambling site will raise so much issues. There are players that are looking for the details of the casino especially when it's online. But the ones that will expose your lack of license and that gambling is illegal in your jurisdiction are online casino review sites. And that will take away a huge portion of your players since why would they want to play in a gambling site that's run by an anonymous owner when there are thousands of other gambling sites that are similar to you but have a license.

The players like staying anonymous but they don't like the owner staying anonymous. So it wouldn't be as easy as you thought it would be. It's one thing to open up an online casino but it's another thing to make people play on your casino.
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I really don't know how this licensing thing works. From what I understood from different topics on this board, o run a reliable casino it is advisable to get an online gambling license. You can choose different license jurisdiction including Curacao, Malta, UK, etc depending on where you host your casino. License gives you a better reputation and customer loyalty.
You can get license only in such places where gambling is legal, but still I think there are so many countries where gambling is not legal and you can run a gambling site legally there. But If they will reach to you they will fine you for that and in some cases can send you to jail.
In my country gambling is not legal, but still there are so many people who are running physical casino, although it is difficult because they have to face the law and forces agencies, it is rather easy to run a online casino where the government cannot stop you so easily.
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I really don't know how this licensing thing works. From what I understood from different topics on this board, o run a reliable casino it is advisable to get an online gambling license. You can choose different license jurisdiction including Curacao, Malta, UK, etc depending on where you host your casino. License gives you a better reputation and customer loyalty.
You can get license only in such places where gambling is legal, but still I think there are so many countries where gambling is not legal and you can run a gambling site illegally there. But If they will reach to you they will fine you for that and in some cases can send you to jail.
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Very few countries provide with legal support for the development and implementation of gambling. As the online gambling sites too requires certain norms to be fulfilled, they register with those particular countries. This will let the gambling sites progress and gain the trust of users while there are lots of un registered gambling sites which scams people.

I don't know much about how to operate a gambling site but as my common sense says, licensing is a must for gambling sites that want to stay longer and want to avoid further problems in the coming days and years. And again, with licensing, users will feel more secure when risking their money to such gambling places.
Well I will advise you not to take this as option. Reason is, how you can be choosing something that is able to give you money but this money comes out of people who lose it. You can’t just dig your hands in someone’s pocket and then become rich. No, I don’t think so this is reliable and suitable for a sensible human being on this earth. Get your Ming and direct in right way.
Simply, we must not earn from making others loser. We can’t just be so selfish that to harm others, we have devised some attractive games and plans that easily make others trap. You are good to go for earning from any other respectable way where the money comes after your hard world and efforts, not from destructing someone else’s future. Good luck to you brothers.
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This question has been asked multiple times on the forum so doing a forum search may bring some good results.
IIRC, , (in-short) there are a few countries that are more lax about the rules and licences one needs to obtain in order to operate a Gambling site. I'd focus my attention on Finland, Gibraltar and the Cayman Islands if I were you.
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The best advise for you to visit a consultant to help you. Do remember where you take license should be a bitcoin friendly country. Plus figure out all the taxes as this is one complicated procedure you better get pros involved to help you out. I mean, calculate all pluses and minuses then create website!
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Very few countries provide with legal support for the development and implementation of gambling. As the online gambling sites too requires certain norms to be fulfilled, they register with those particular countries. This will let the gambling sites progress and gain the trust of users while there are lots of un registered gambling sites which scams people.

I don't know much about how to operate a gambling site but as my common sense says, licensing is a must for gambling sites that want to stay longer and want to avoid further problems in the coming days and years. And again, with licensing, users will feel more secure when risking their money to such gambling places.
Well I will advise you not to take this as option. Reason is, how you can be choosing something that is able to give you money but this money comes out of people who lose it. You can’t just dig your hands in someone’s pocket and then become rich. No, I don’t think so this is reliable and suitable for a sensible human being on this earth. Get your Ming and direct in right way.
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Very few countries provide with legal support for the development and implementation of gambling. As the online gambling sites too requires certain norms to be fulfilled, they register with those particular countries. This will let the gambling sites progress and gain the trust of users while there are lots of un registered gambling sites which scams people.

I don't know much about how to operate a gambling site but as my common sense says, licensing is a must for gambling sites that want to stay longer and want to avoid further problems in the coming days and years. And again, with licensing, users will feel more secure when risking their money to such gambling places.
When gamblers do hear out about a gambling site which is licensed then it cant really avoid the feeling of security since they do know that they can able to go after a site if they do experience problems with it unlike into non-licensed ones which you don't really have something to be assured since anytime they can out on their players money but this isn't the case isn't happening as of now because we do see some gambling sites doesn't have any license but still manage to be on top list.
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Very few countries provide with legal support for the development and implementation of gambling. As the online gambling sites too requires certain norms to be fulfilled, they register with those particular countries. This will let the gambling sites progress and gain the trust of users while there are lots of un registered gambling sites which scams people.

I don't know much about how to operate a gambling site but as my common sense says, licensing is a must for gambling sites that want to stay longer and want to avoid further problems in the coming days and years. And again, with licensing, users will feel more secure when risking their money to such gambling places.
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clearly the license is very necessary if you really want the site to run smoothly and last a long time if it can be accepted legally by your country. with the existence of a government license, automatically the site that you make can be safer because it has legal permission
Well I can’t just participate in a source that leads humanity to destruction. I can really not say this to other people that I am millionaire because I make people lose money. I pretend my game is lethal and legit while manipulations are there and intentionally these innocent people who came for earning money lose all what they have. Don’t do this to your brotherhood.
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maybe it is better to get a license for creating a crypto gambling site so he can feel safe from the law. I think if he creates a gambling site, his visitor is not just come from the UK but he can have a visitor from all country because once his site is online and he can make a good promotion for his gambling site, it will attract many people to come to his site. and if he has a license, then he doesn't have to worry about anything and he can run his gambling site without any problem.

Well maybe in the develop countries like UK, USA we need to get license to operate the gambling site as it is in their laws. But for many under developed countries no license or other legal stuff is required. Another thing to note is that in some places gambling is prohibited or even considered as a sin, so if you open / operate site from such places, then it can cause you legal complications too.
For most of the countries, like bitcoin, gambling isn’t legalized. But there are developed countries too that has legalized this unethical thing even being so called civilized and developed countries. But that is up to them how they control this legality over those gamblers who always breaks law and participate in illegal activities. But I will never advice you to get this business, it’s shameful.
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You don't have to take licence according to you're customers but you have to take licence from where you are going to start the gambling business. You have to first check that whether your country support the gambling and it is legal to run it, then only you will need the license to run you're gambling business online of live both.
Yes that is right that different countries have different rules and regulation about opening a online casino, in my country I know that it is totally illegal and they are not issuing any license to create a online gambling site, it will be totally illegal in my country. With license we can attract more gamblers, but after crypto payments no owners provide importance to this.

Thats right, the license is important not only to make your site more professional but also to attract many users because they will be more comfortable and feel safe if the gambling site they play has a legal protection or license. Yeah but in some countries that prohibit gambling. of course that won't matter. but that does not mean your site cannot be accessed in their country
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Very few countries provide with legal support for the development and implementation of gambling. As the online gambling sites too requires certain norms to be fulfilled, they register with those particular countries. This will let the gambling sites progress and gain the trust of users while there are lots of un registered gambling sites which scams people.
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Yes that is right that different countries have different rules and regulation about opening a online casino, in my country I know that it is totally illegal and they are not issuing any license to create a online gambling site, it will be totally illegal in my country. With license we can attract more gamblers, but after crypto payments no owners provide importance to this.

There are ways to twist the legal conditions and operate such sites even if the law does not allow that. For instance, in some countries the rules is than any online game which involves some skills cannot be banned. Now gambling activities like card based games may fall in these category and thus one can run such websites in that country.
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You don't have to take licence according to you're customers but you have to take licence from where you are going to start the gambling business. You have to first check that whether your country support the gambling and it is legal to run it, then only you will need the license to run you're gambling business online of live both.
Yes that is right that different countries have different rules and regulation about opening a online casino, in my country I know that it is totally illegal and they are not issuing any license to create a online gambling site, it will be totally illegal in my country. With license we can attract more gamblers, but after crypto payments no owners provide importance to this.
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Simply you don't need a license of any kind .However, it would be nice to have one if you can afford one as it will be like an advantage over other sites and would attract many whales who can be afraid of betting too high.
you could try getting one from any of Caribbean countries where taxes are low and laws ain't very tight.
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maybe it is better to get a license for creating a crypto gambling site so he can feel safe from the law. I think if he creates a gambling site, his visitor is not just come from the UK but he can have a visitor from all country because once his site is online and he can make a good promotion for his gambling site, it will attract many people to come to his site. and if he has a license, then he doesn't have to worry about anything and he can run his gambling site without any problem.

Well maybe in the develop countries like UK, USA we need to get license to operate the gambling site as it is in their laws. But for many under developed countries no license or other legal stuff is required. Another thing to note is that in some places gambling is prohibited or even considered as a sin, so if you open / operate site from such places, then it can cause you legal complications too.
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If you are "targeting" Denmark players, you register a company in Malta and run the site from there. Check what all the danish casino sites are doing. A bunch register company in Malta to pay 15% tax on revenue instead of 45% in Denmark. They still pay tax on Denmark players with the Danish license but not taxed on other countries players at the Denmark tax rate.

Every "legal" online casino in Denmark has a license with Spillemyndigheden though. You may not be allowed to get a license with just crypto if you want to be a Danish casino, lots of rich companies avoid that license cost and Denmark - it is high license cost.

The "dodgy" way is to get the curacao, Khanawakee or Antigua license and run casino from there. Can target any country but the people behind the casino have to hide basically because those countries regulators will want to know who is offering illegal gambling in their country.

The "legal" way requires a lawyer in every legislated jurisdiction to make sure you are complying with the license requirements there. That can add up with Italy, Spain, France, UK, Belgium, Germany all having different regulatory requirements and licensing rules/costs. Then there are the US "state" licensing laws....

It is a rabbit hole once you start offering online gambling, this is why we are currently in a "fight" with an ICO that knows nothing of legislation worldwide here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43725038




thank you so much for the input. yea my plan would be to gather funds thru an ICO but i want to have all my facts down before i even start that. if i do anything in the crypto scene i dont want to be a scamquitter like so many have been before .

Oh you want to ICO huh?
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i don't want to tarnish my name in the crypto scene. i would never just take peoples money and say "sorry dident work my money now"

Edit: what i mean by that is. if you get known as the shady guy or scammer in the crypto space you will never find any reputable work in the space. and i would really want to avoid that.
I think I found a sensible comment after a long time. Really this is what I want to say. Why we prepare a pool of stupid people who lose their money and this all happening according to plan. Why we take their money and tell them to try it again as good options are there too. I can never be a profitable person by making other lost and investing on their money to become successful, no.

thank you for having the same mindset Smiley
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If you are "targeting" Denmark players, you register a company in Malta and run the site from there. Check what all the danish casino sites are doing. A bunch register company in Malta to pay 15% tax on revenue instead of 45% in Denmark. They still pay tax on Denmark players with the Danish license but not taxed on other countries players at the Denmark tax rate.

Every "legal" online casino in Denmark has a license with Spillemyndigheden though. You may not be allowed to get a license with just crypto if you want to be a Danish casino, lots of rich companies avoid that license cost and Denmark - it is high license cost.

The "dodgy" way is to get the curacao, Khanawakee or Antigua license and run casino from there. Can target any country but the people behind the casino have to hide basically because those countries regulators will want to know who is offering illegal gambling in their country.

The "legal" way requires a lawyer in every legislated jurisdiction to make sure you are complying with the license requirements there. That can add up with Italy, Spain, France, UK, Belgium, Germany all having different regulatory requirements and licensing rules/costs. Then there are the US "state" licensing laws....

It is a rabbit hole once you start offering online gambling, this is why we are currently in a "fight" with an ICO that knows nothing of legislation worldwide here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43725038




thank you so much for the input. yea my plan would be to gather funds thru an ICO but i want to have all my facts down before i even start that. if i do anything in the crypto scene i dont want to be a scamquitter like so many have been before .

Oh you want to ICO huh?
Shameless plug, we hate the scamquitters, glad you don't want to be one...
https://www.cryptogamblingsites.com/crypto-news/the-ico-scam-blueprint/


i don't want to tarnish my name in the crypto scene. i would never just take peoples money and say "sorry dident work my money now"

Edit: what i mean by that is. if you get known as the shady guy or scammer in the crypto space you will never find any reputable work in the space. and i would really want to avoid that.
I think I found a sensible comment after a long time. Really this is what I want to say. Why we prepare a pool of stupid people who lose their money and this all happening according to plan. Why we take their money and tell them to try it again as good options are there too. I can never be a profitable person by making other lost and investing on their money to become successful, no.
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If i wanted to create a crypto gambling site would i need to get a license in the countries where my customers would come from?

as in if i targeted people in the UK would i need a UK license?

or is the crypto space exempt from the licensing as it's not "fiat"

and if a licence is needed would i need one for each country i want my site to be used in or just one in general?

i realize this might be a nooby question but i wanted to ask as i don't know much about the legal side of the gambling scene.

I don't think that you'd need a license to operate a crypto-gambling site (AFAIK), especially if you won't be dealing with fiat in any way. Since cryptocurrencies do not operate within a single jurisdiction, it's hard to regulate them at a global scale. As such, they're tied to various regions worldwide instead of a single region or country. On the other hand, decentralized gambling applications which rely on smart contracts, wouldn't rely on a license to operate, since they can be executed by anyone in the world.

However, anything is possible, as we've seen the SEC in the US cracking down on unregistered ICOs within crypto land. If governments see crypto-gambling sites as a threat or as something that doesn't generate them taxes, then regulations for this sector will come for sure. Things aside, since the casino I'm promoting under my signature (called Bitcasino) is already licensed, then I guess that other crypto-gambling sites will follow in the long term. AFAIK, it's not a requirement, but it could be soon.

Nevertheless, it's advised to consult a counselor or lawyer about this to be on the safe side. Wink
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Depends on the country you found the company.

But all and all, you don't "need" one. You can stay illegal, not pay taxes and be off with it.

License would come handy for the potential customers.

I think he can choose the hosting company that doesn't prohibit gambling so he can register the domain and the hosting at the same time and he can continue to build the website. but if he wants to buy the gambling site, then maybe he can move the hosting with the other hosting that doesn't have any prohibition about gambling site. but it is better to have a license to run gambling site because you will be safe to manage your gambling site and don't have to worry.
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I really don't know how this licensing thing works. From what I understood from different topics on this board, o run a reliable casino it is advisable to get an online gambling license. You can choose different license jurisdiction including Curacao, Malta, UK, etc depending on where you host your casino. License gives you a better reputation and customer loyalty.
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clearly the license is very necessary if you really want the site to run smoothly and last a long time if it can be accepted legally by your country. with the existence of a government license, automatically the site that you make can be safer because it has legal permission
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Depends on the country you found the company.

But all and all, you don't "need" one. You can stay illegal, not pay taxes and be off with it.

License would come handy for the potential customers.
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If you are "targeting" Denmark players, you register a company in Malta and run the site from there. Check what all the danish casino sites are doing. A bunch register company in Malta to pay 15% tax on revenue instead of 45% in Denmark. They still pay tax on Denmark players with the Danish license but not taxed on other countries players at the Denmark tax rate.

Every "legal" online casino in Denmark has a license with Spillemyndigheden though. You may not be allowed to get a license with just crypto if you want to be a Danish casino, lots of rich companies avoid that license cost and Denmark - it is high license cost.

The "dodgy" way is to get the curacao, Khanawakee or Antigua license and run casino from there. Can target any country but the people behind the casino have to hide basically because those countries regulators will want to know who is offering illegal gambling in their country.

The "legal" way requires a lawyer in every legislated jurisdiction to make sure you are complying with the license requirements there. That can add up with Italy, Spain, France, UK, Belgium, Germany all having different regulatory requirements and licensing rules/costs. Then there are the US "state" licensing laws....

It is a rabbit hole once you start offering online gambling, this is why we are currently in a "fight" with an ICO that knows nothing of legislation worldwide here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43725038




thank you so much for the input. yea my plan would be to gather funds thru an ICO but i want to have all my facts down before i even start that. if i do anything in the crypto scene i dont want to be a scamquitter like so many have been before .

Oh you want to ICO huh?
Shameless plug, we hate the scamquitters, glad you don't want to be one...
https://www.cryptogamblingsites.com/crypto-news/the-ico-scam-blueprint/


i don't want to tarnish my name in the crypto scene. i would never just take peoples money and say "sorry dident work my money now"

Edit: what i mean by that is. if you get known as the shady guy or scammer in the crypto space you will never find any reputable work in the space. and i would really want to avoid that.
I understand your point cause the cryptocurrency community don't like been use, cheat on not to talk of been scammed and with the exclusion of that the rules and regulations of every gambler is never gamble at any blackguard, scamp, vilian or a scoundrel gambling sites. So if you want to more traffic/player you need the license and keep your record clean.

it seems like i would be able to do it without a license but i will be as upfront with the people that would use my service as possible.

transparency is key in the crypto world.
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If you are "targeting" Denmark players, you register a company in Malta and run the site from there. Check what all the danish casino sites are doing. A bunch register company in Malta to pay 15% tax on revenue instead of 45% in Denmark. They still pay tax on Denmark players with the Danish license but not taxed on other countries players at the Denmark tax rate.

Every "legal" online casino in Denmark has a license with Spillemyndigheden though. You may not be allowed to get a license with just crypto if you want to be a Danish casino, lots of rich companies avoid that license cost and Denmark - it is high license cost.

The "dodgy" way is to get the curacao, Khanawakee or Antigua license and run casino from there. Can target any country but the people behind the casino have to hide basically because those countries regulators will want to know who is offering illegal gambling in their country.

The "legal" way requires a lawyer in every legislated jurisdiction to make sure you are complying with the license requirements there. That can add up with Italy, Spain, France, UK, Belgium, Germany all having different regulatory requirements and licensing rules/costs. Then there are the US "state" licensing laws....

It is a rabbit hole once you start offering online gambling, this is why we are currently in a "fight" with an ICO that knows nothing of legislation worldwide here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43725038




thank you so much for the input. yea my plan would be to gather funds thru an ICO but i want to have all my facts down before i even start that. if i do anything in the crypto scene i dont want to be a scamquitter like so many have been before .

Oh you want to ICO huh?
Shameless plug, we hate the scamquitters, glad you don't want to be one...
https://www.cryptogamblingsites.com/crypto-news/the-ico-scam-blueprint/


i don't want to tarnish my name in the crypto scene. i would never just take peoples money and say "sorry dident work my money now"

Edit: what i mean by that is. if you get known as the shady guy or scammer in the crypto space you will never find any reputable work in the space. and i would really want to avoid that.
I understand your point cause the cryptocurrency community don't like been use, cheat on not to talk of been scammed and with the exclusion of that the rules and regulations of every gambler is never gamble at any blackguard, scamp, vilian or a scoundrel gambling sites. So if you want to more traffic/player you need the license and keep your record clean.
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If you are "targeting" Denmark players, you register a company in Malta and run the site from there. Check what all the danish casino sites are doing. A bunch register company in Malta to pay 15% tax on revenue instead of 45% in Denmark. They still pay tax on Denmark players with the Danish license but not taxed on other countries players at the Denmark tax rate.

Every "legal" online casino in Denmark has a license with Spillemyndigheden though. You may not be allowed to get a license with just crypto if you want to be a Danish casino, lots of rich companies avoid that license cost and Denmark - it is high license cost.

The "dodgy" way is to get the curacao, Khanawakee or Antigua license and run casino from there. Can target any country but the people behind the casino have to hide basically because those countries regulators will want to know who is offering illegal gambling in their country.

The "legal" way requires a lawyer in every legislated jurisdiction to make sure you are complying with the license requirements there. That can add up with Italy, Spain, France, UK, Belgium, Germany all having different regulatory requirements and licensing rules/costs. Then there are the US "state" licensing laws....

It is a rabbit hole once you start offering online gambling, this is why we are currently in a "fight" with an ICO that knows nothing of legislation worldwide here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43725038




thank you so much for the input. yea my plan would be to gather funds thru an ICO but i want to have all my facts down before i even start that. if i do anything in the crypto scene i dont want to be a scamquitter like so many have been before .

Oh you want to ICO huh?
Shameless plug, we hate the scamquitters, glad you don't want to be one...
https://www.cryptogamblingsites.com/crypto-news/the-ico-scam-blueprint/


i don't want to tarnish my name in the crypto scene. i would never just take peoples money and say "sorry dident work my money now"

Edit: what i mean by that is. if you get known as the shady guy or scammer in the crypto space you will never find any reputable work in the space. and i would really want to avoid that.
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If you are "targeting" Denmark players, you register a company in Malta and run the site from there. Check what all the danish casino sites are doing. A bunch register company in Malta to pay 15% tax on revenue instead of 45% in Denmark. They still pay tax on Denmark players with the Danish license but not taxed on other countries players at the Denmark tax rate.

Every "legal" online casino in Denmark has a license with Spillemyndigheden though. You may not be allowed to get a license with just crypto if you want to be a Danish casino, lots of rich companies avoid that license cost and Denmark - it is high license cost.

The "dodgy" way is to get the curacao, Khanawakee or Antigua license and run casino from there. Can target any country but the people behind the casino have to hide basically because those countries regulators will want to know who is offering illegal gambling in their country.

The "legal" way requires a lawyer in every legislated jurisdiction to make sure you are complying with the license requirements there. That can add up with Italy, Spain, France, UK, Belgium, Germany all having different regulatory requirements and licensing rules/costs. Then there are the US "state" licensing laws....

It is a rabbit hole once you start offering online gambling, this is why we are currently in a "fight" with an ICO that knows nothing of legislation worldwide here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43725038




thank you so much for the input. yea my plan would be to gather funds thru an ICO but i want to have all my facts down before i even start that. if i do anything in the crypto scene i dont want to be a scamquitter like so many have been before .

Oh you want to ICO huh?
Shameless plug, we hate the scamquitters, glad you don't want to be one...
https://www.cryptogamblingsites.com/crypto-news/the-ico-scam-blueprint/
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Did i do any research into this before i asked on the forum? No. i did not do any research and i used the UK as a place simply for reference. in hindsight i should have done some more research before posting here.
Yes, you can do some research before posting here but I guess its okay in every sense. One of the main reasons why we have this forum is to exchange our ideas in every possible way and what you did proved that. You can always post here first with any valid point or question and no one will criticize you about it.

Will you be accepting fiat? if i were to have a gambling site dedicated to crypto i would more than likely not offer fiat deposit or withdraw but rather a bunch of cryptos. (not just btc/eth)
Really like this idea. This would greatly benefit those peeps who want to gamble using different coins and still be hidden in terms of their identities. If you'll gonna add fiat, there's a high chance that you will comply with KYC regulations and some of the players that I know don't want that. Go with that path and I think you'll be right with it.

thank you so much for your input and support Smiley
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If you are "targeting" Denmark players, you register a company in Malta and run the site from there. Check what all the danish casino sites are doing. A bunch register company in Malta to pay 15% tax on revenue instead of 45% in Denmark. They still pay tax on Denmark players with the Danish license but not taxed on other countries players at the Denmark tax rate.

Every "legal" online casino in Denmark has a license with Spillemyndigheden though. You may not be allowed to get a license with just crypto if you want to be a Danish casino, lots of rich companies avoid that license cost and Denmark - it is high license cost.

The "dodgy" way is to get the curacao, Khanawakee or Antigua license and run casino from there. Can target any country but the people behind the casino have to hide basically because those countries regulators will want to know who is offering illegal gambling in their country.

The "legal" way requires a lawyer in every legislated jurisdiction to make sure you are complying with the license requirements there. That can add up with Italy, Spain, France, UK, Belgium, Germany all having different regulatory requirements and licensing rules/costs. Then there are the US "state" licensing laws....

It is a rabbit hole once you start offering online gambling, this is why we are currently in a "fight" with an ICO that knows nothing of legislation worldwide here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43725038




thank you so much for the input. yea my plan would be to gather funds thru an ICO but i want to have all my facts down before i even start that. if i do anything in the crypto scene i dont want to be a scamquitter like so many have been before .
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Did i do any research into this before i asked on the forum? No. i did not do any research and i used the UK as a place simply for reference. in hindsight i should have done some more research before posting here.
Yes, you can do some research before posting here but I guess its okay in every sense. One of the main reasons why we have this forum is to exchange our ideas in every possible way and what you did proved that. You can always post here first with any valid point or question and no one will criticize you about it.

Will you be accepting fiat? if i were to have a gambling site dedicated to crypto i would more than likely not offer fiat deposit or withdraw but rather a bunch of cryptos. (not just btc/eth)
Really like this idea. This would greatly benefit those peeps who want to gamble using different coins and still be hidden in terms of their identities. If you'll gonna add fiat, there's a high chance that you will comply with KYC regulations and some of the players that I know don't want that. Go with that path and I think you'll be right with it.
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If you are "targeting" Denmark players, you register a company in Malta and run the site from there. Check what all the danish casino sites are doing. A bunch register company in Malta to pay 15% tax on revenue instead of 45% in Denmark. They still pay tax on Denmark players with the Danish license but not taxed on other countries players at the Denmark tax rate.

Every "legal" online casino in Denmark has a license with Spillemyndigheden though. You may not be allowed to get a license with just crypto if you want to be a Danish casino, lots of rich companies avoid that license cost and Denmark - it is high license cost.

The "dodgy" way is to get the curacao, Khanawakee or Antigua license and run casino from there. Can target any country but the people behind the casino have to hide basically because those countries regulators will want to know who is offering illegal gambling in their country.

The "legal" way requires a lawyer in every legislated jurisdiction to make sure you are complying with the license requirements there. That can add up with Italy, Spain, France, UK, Belgium, Germany all having different regulatory requirements and licensing rules/costs. Then there are the US "state" licensing laws....

It is a rabbit hole once you start offering online gambling, this is why we are currently in a "fight" with an ICO that knows nothing of legislation worldwide here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.43725038


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Thank you all for the input.

i would like to answer a few questions i saw coming up quite a bit.

Did i do any research into this before i asked on the forum? No. i did not do any research and i used the UK as a place simply for reference. in hindsight i should have done some more research before posting here.

Will you be accepting fiat? if i were to have a gambling site dedicated to crypto i would more than likely not offer fiat deposit or withdraw but rather a bunch of cryptos. (not just btc/eth)

Is gambling allowed in my country? as i understand it gambling is allowed in my country if you have a license (i don't mind telling people i am from Denmark). if that would be an issue could i not just host the gambling website in a country that is more lenient with their gambling restrictions?

if you have any more questions for me i would answer them!

this is only a brainstorm stage currently, but if i figure out how to operate everything without sending myself to jail or in other troubles there is a decent possibility that i will work something out.
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You will want to get a license if you are aiming to build a large website with a lot of traffic.  A few countries have very loose gambling laws but they are starting to crack down on crypto gambling and bringing on more strict regulations.  Be aware that this field is highly competitive and you may struggle to attract players for a very long time, so be prepared to operate at a loss.
You might be right but if the OP manage to get the UK license with good customers support portal and nice website and do some campaign i.e signature campaign I totally believe he/she will not experience any loss because the cryptocurrency community believed in all what I mentioned.

What if the OP is from other country where gambling sites are illegal and even crypto is also not legal, what will be do then.

What i am saying is first check about gambling is legal or not with the country where you are living. As if it is illegal then their is no point of further talk. If it is legal then you can take a gambling license from your country as you dont need to have license for the customers living country. As the gambling site legal jurisdiction is where from their only you have to take license. Because once you get license from your country then you are totally free to start your online crypto gambling site giving your country license certificate which will make more legality of your site and more customers will be attracted. Same time check with other country users from where they are joining and whether their respective country have legal in gambling if not you have to forfeit them from joining your site.
Yes he need to check the status of gambling as well as the crypto currency status in his country if he want to create a crypto gambling site,but there is no need to get license from all the countries I think the it will be enough to get license where the origin of that site.If gambling is illegal in that country then he need to move to another country to create his business.
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maybe it is better to get a license for creating a crypto gambling site so he can feel safe from the law. I think if he creates a gambling site, his visitor is not just come from the UK but he can have a visitor from all country because once his site is online and he can make a good promotion for his gambling site, it will attract many people to come to his site. and if he has a license, then he doesn't have to worry about anything and he can run his gambling site without any problem.
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You will want to get a license if you are aiming to build a large website with a lot of traffic.  A few countries have very loose gambling laws but they are starting to crack down on crypto gambling and bringing on more strict regulations.  Be aware that this field is highly competitive and you may struggle to attract players for a very long time, so be prepared to operate at a loss.
You might be right but if the OP manage to get the UK license with good customers support portal and nice website and do some campaign i.e signature campaign I totally believe he/she will not experience any loss because the cryptocurrency community believed in all what I mentioned.

What if the OP is from other country where gambling sites are illegal and even crypto is also not legal, what will be do then.
What i am saying is first check about gambling is legal or not with the country where you are living. As if it is illegal then their is no point of further talk

Basically, he have to check with legal advisors from his country but if gamble site or Crypto currency is not legal in his country he can open the gamble business and get the license by going to a crypto friendly country to start his business and get the license there. Remember, when Chinese government was acting weird towards crypto currency then? A lot of crypto currency exchange owner that have money to move and continue their business did so.

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He probably chose UK from doing zero research and has no experience with the regulation in different jurisdictions.

Forum is worst place to learn, everyone knows op has to go spend the money to get answers for specific situation.
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Of course you need a license if you really want your gamble site to gain high traffic and more user trust but it will be more nice if you can get a UK license since you're targeting the UK customer because some countries from Europe have already implemented blocking through local ISPs to circumvent traffic away from internationally operating and unlicensed gambling websites. If you can't get the UK license try another respected crypto friendly country license.

Just FYI, UK is a TERRIBLE country to get a license in. They charge you yearly for the license then they tell you how to advertise and run your casino or sportsbook.

The commission claims there are 25,000 problem gamblers between the ages of 11-16 in the UK (think of the children!!!)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6016145/Betting-firms-target-youngsters-adverts-face-unlimited-fines.html

And they fine companies constantly.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/31/gambling-firm-888-fined-online-bookmaker-problem-gamblers
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/feb/20/william-hill-fined-62m-by-gambling-commission
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/02/leovegas-fined-for-accepting-bets-from-problem-gamblers

Those are JUST the recent ones...

Bringing bitcoin casinos to the UK regulators (most get the Malta gambling license or Curacao license) would be a very bad idea because they are constantly trying to make headlines that they are cracking down on gambling issues in the country.

Gambling sites cannot technically offer gambling to people in UK without the license however there have been real money and now crypto options available to anyone in the UK. There is a whole strategy around how to setup the "unregulated" casinos and "regulated" casino, both cost the casinos a ton of money either way in legal costs.



If you look at most other gambling sites, you see that they usually pick Malta or Curaçao as a base for their operations.
You're right that the UK wouldn't be the best place to get your license.

Here's an extensive resource with more information about gambling regulations in Malta:
https://www.mga.org.mt/legislations-regulations/

Here's similar info for Curaçao:
https://iclg.com/practice-areas/gambling-laws-and-regulations/dutch-caribbean
Yes,i also saw a lot new projects picking up their license from Maltas, Japan, Curacao etc and I never knew that UK is so picky and terrible to get license for e gamble owner. However, I advice to OP to get UK license because he/she was targeting the UK customer and getting a license from UK could also boost customers trust. I bet, the OP choose UK because the European side love sport gambling.
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Of course you need a license if you really want your gamble site to gain high traffic and more user trust but it will be more nice if you can get a UK license since you're targeting the UK customer because some countries from Europe have already implemented blocking through local ISPs to circumvent traffic away from internationally operating and unlicensed gambling websites. If you can't get the UK license try another respected crypto friendly country license.

Just FYI, UK is a TERRIBLE country to get a license in. They charge you yearly for the license then they tell you how to advertise and run your casino or sportsbook.

The commission claims there are 25,000 problem gamblers between the ages of 11-16 in the UK (think of the children!!!)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6016145/Betting-firms-target-youngsters-adverts-face-unlimited-fines.html

And they fine companies constantly.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/31/gambling-firm-888-fined-online-bookmaker-problem-gamblers
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/feb/20/william-hill-fined-62m-by-gambling-commission
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/02/leovegas-fined-for-accepting-bets-from-problem-gamblers

Those are JUST the recent ones...

Bringing bitcoin casinos to the UK regulators (most get the Malta gambling license or Curacao license) would be a very bad idea because they are constantly trying to make headlines that they are cracking down on gambling issues in the country.

Gambling sites cannot technically offer gambling to people in UK without the license however there have been real money and now crypto options available to anyone in the UK. There is a whole strategy around how to setup the "unregulated" casinos and "regulated" casino, both cost the casinos a ton of money either way in legal costs.



If you look at most other gambling sites, you see that they usually pick Malta or Curaçao as a base for their operations.
You're right that the UK wouldn't be the best place to get your license.

Here's an extensive resource with more information about gambling regulations in Malta:
https://www.mga.org.mt/legislations-regulations/

Here's similar info for Curaçao:
https://iclg.com/practice-areas/gambling-laws-and-regulations/dutch-caribbean
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Every country have different policy against gambling so you should ask about them.
As long as it's not restrict your gambling activity, I'm sure you will got your license without worry.

Of course license become primary need before start any operation !
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Depends on how you want to run with it. If you want a legit business you can't have a business with no licenses, however there are billions of websites in the world that has no licenses or even pays taxes, they work like that until they get caught which actually hurts even more than actually starting out legit.

Now this is just for regular websites that makes money on adsense or whatever, you are here telling us that you want to create a casino for crypto and you do not want to have a license, now those types of websites exists as well however they do not make any sense what so ever considering you are dealing with other peoples money and there is provably fair everywhere, you might as well get a license too so you can be an actual legit website.

I agree with you. Although, it can be a pain in the back taking a license, but if you have it the better trust you get from the gambling community and you'll feel safer too.
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I made a similar thread in this section and as per the responses there, I came to know that it would depend on the laws of that country.

Also, there are some crypto friendly countries where you can get the license easily at very less cost.

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That is upon the country rules you are from! If you want to invest your money gambling site please find the web dev and API writers to make the website perfect. Since the decentralized crypto currencies being used on the site you will not find the any rules applicable to have the cryptos as a funding source.
Still if you are having doubt on that check your PR to discuss with the government to have the website.
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The things I have read on this only states that you need a licence to host that casino in a specific country. I also know some

Casinos have blocked people, based on their location. Read a little bit more about Geo-blocking and Geo-targeting on this

site : https://www.onlinecasinowebsites.com/geo-blocking/ - Offshore casino websites typically operate outside of a region’s

borders and adhere to different international laws and regulations. Tricky question to answer, because it differs from country

to country.  Roll Eyes
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If i wanted to create a crypto gambling site would i need to get a license in the countries where my customers would come from?

as in if i targeted people in the UK would i need a UK license?

or is the crypto space exempt from the licensing as it's not "fiat"

and if a licence is needed would i need one for each country i want my site to be used in or just one in general?

i realize this might be a nooby question but i wanted to ask as i don't know much about the legal side of the gambling scene.


I think can't answer your question, but crypto is using online net hard and difficult to trace
In my knowledge herein my location online casino gambling using fiat are need to registered in the governmnet to get legal papers to avoid banning in crypto gambling site i have no idea if needed to get an license to operate i suggest with you ask toat the responsible agency in your location country.
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I think if you want your crypto website to be popular you rather count on customers from all over the world, than just from one particular country. But it's not your problem whether gambling and online casinos are allowed in countries where the users will be from, or not. You need a license more as a warrant that your casino is legal, that you pay taxes (pay attention to that one) and, finally, that your site is trustworthy. However, different countries have different requirements as to legislation of an online casino and you have to choose an appropriate jurisdiction that corresponds your current needs and possibilities in order to issue your gambling website license, make sure that it meets all of the requirements (such as software, taxation policies, availability of some important information on your website, such as terms and conditions, etc.).
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Depends on how you want to run with it. If you want a legit business you can't have a business with no licenses, however there are billions of websites in the world that has no licenses or even pays taxes, they work like that until they get caught which actually hurts even more than actually starting out legit.

These guys ran with no license and made $26 million http://www.thejakartapost.com/seasia/2018/06/23/vietnam-busts-26-million-online-betting-ring-state-media.html

Like you say, it can hurt even more since they're in jail. 

It seems very dumb to run a site in Vietnam for Vietnamese gamblers that they know is illegal. If they had been hosted in Curacao, for example, highly doubt it is illegal to offer online gambling to Vietnam from Curacao.

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Of course you need a license if you really want your gamble site to gain high traffic and more user trust but it will be more nice if you can get a UK license since you're targeting the UK customer because some countries from Europe have already implemented blocking through local ISPs to circumvent traffic away from internationally operating and unlicensed gambling websites. If you can't get the UK license try another respected crypto friendly country license.

Just FYI, UK is a TERRIBLE country to get a license in. They charge you yearly for the license then they tell you how to advertise and run your casino or sportsbook.

The commission claims there are 25,000 problem gamblers between the ages of 11-16 in the UK (think of the children!!!)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6016145/Betting-firms-target-youngsters-adverts-face-unlimited-fines.html

And they fine companies constantly.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/aug/31/gambling-firm-888-fined-online-bookmaker-problem-gamblers
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/feb/20/william-hill-fined-62m-by-gambling-commission
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/02/leovegas-fined-for-accepting-bets-from-problem-gamblers

Those are JUST the recent ones...

Bringing bitcoin casinos to the UK regulators (most get the Malta gambling license or Curacao license) would be a very bad idea because they are constantly trying to make headlines that they are cracking down on gambling issues in the country.

Gambling sites cannot technically offer gambling to people in UK without the license however there have been real money and now crypto options available to anyone in the UK. There is a whole strategy around how to setup the "unregulated" casinos and "regulated" casino, both cost the casinos a ton of money either way in legal costs.

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You will want to get a license if you are aiming to build a large website with a lot of traffic.  A few countries have very loose gambling laws but they are starting to crack down on crypto gambling and bringing on more strict regulations.  Be aware that this field is highly competitive and you may struggle to attract players for a very long time, so be prepared to operate at a loss.
You might be right but if the OP manage to get the UK license with good customers support portal and nice website and do some campaign i.e signature campaign I totally believe he/she will not experience any loss because the cryptocurrency community believed in all what I mentioned.

What if the OP is from other country where gambling sites are illegal and even crypto is also not legal, what will be do then.

What i am saying is first check about gambling is legal or not with the country where you are living. As if it is illegal then their is no point of further talk. If it is legal then you can take a gambling license from your country as you dont need to have license for the customers living country. As the gambling site legal jurisdiction is where from their only you have to take license. Because once you get license from your country then you are totally free to start your online crypto gambling site giving your country license certificate which will make more legality of your site and more customers will be attracted. Same time check with other country users from where they are joining and whether their respective country have legal in gambling if not you have to forfeit them from joining your site.
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You will want to get a license if you are aiming to build a large website with a lot of traffic.  A few countries have very loose gambling laws but they are starting to crack down on crypto gambling and bringing on more strict regulations.  Be aware that this field is highly competitive and you may struggle to attract players for a very long time, so be prepared to operate at a loss.
You might be right but if the OP manage to get the UK license with good customers support portal and nice website and do some campaign i.e signature campaign I totally believe he/she will not experience any loss because the cryptocurrency community believed in all what I mentioned.
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There is many gambling sites what accepting crypto currencies what run without license and his customers are happy there is planty who are accepting both fiat and crypto what are  licensed many of them already lost license but they are still offering his service
It is up to you there is better to have license but not exactly obligation if you will only accept crypto
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If i wanted to create a crypto gambling site would i need to get a license in the countries where my customers would come from?

as in if i targeted people in the UK would i need a UK license?

or is the crypto space exempt from the licensing as it's not "fiat"

and if a licence is needed would i need one for each country i want my site to be used in or just one in general?

i realize this might be a nooby question but i wanted to ask as i don't know much about the legal side of the gambling scene.

I don’t know about the UK precisely but there are some countries in Europe where you need a license to operate on. One for each regulated country. Otherwise, if you accept people from those countries you are breaking the law, and those licenses aren’t cheap.
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The license will give you the security and trust of your gambling site users. All we know, internet business or things related to money in the internet world are very vulnerable to fraud. At least with the license that you have will make the majority of people who come to your site and they really are to become members of your gamble site. Therefore, a license is the most important factor for creating a gamble site that you have visited and used by many IMO people.
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Don't do this if you live in a developed country. You can still get away with it if your customers are mainly from a different country but if a customer decides to sue you because he thinks he is being scammed or just because he can, your address will be exposed to the authorities in your country and this means trouble.

If you ever going to do it without a licence, at least make sure that you don't deal with FIAT in any way. None. If you ignore this, your chances of not getting yourself in trouble is zero.
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Depends on how you want to run with it. If you want a legit business you can't have a business with no licenses, however there are billions of websites in the world that has no licenses or even pays taxes, they work like that until they get caught which actually hurts even more than actually starting out legit.

Now this is just for regular websites that makes money on adsense or whatever, you are here telling us that you want to create a casino for crypto and you do not want to have a license, now those types of websites exists as well however they do not make any sense what so ever considering you are dealing with other peoples money and there is provably fair everywhere, you might as well get a license too so you can be an actual legit website.
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I would advise you to visit a consultant to help you, secondly if you decide to ame do know that you can take aoff shore licence that's okay many companies do it. Do remember where you take license should be a bitcoin friendly country. Plus figure out all the taxes as this is one complicated procedure yiu better get pros involved to help you out.
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I think you'd better reach out to a lawyer who's specialized in this sort of legislation.
The chance that you will get a decent answer from this forum is pretty minimal and if you're going to start a gambling website, I would assume that you have enough capital to pay for a consult.

I think it might be possible to start a gambling website without a license, but I have no idea what the specifics would have to be in order to do so.
I agree, sorting out license to operate and license from software game provider and everything that's related to legality, consulting a lawyer can answer majority of your doubts and concerns on how you would run it. He may have minimal idea about software licenses but about legal things which you are most concerned with, he'd probably figure it out.

OP you are building a business, not just a simple game.
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From what I know, you don't need a license if you want to create your own gambling site. I remember Crypto games stated in one of their post that they don't have a license yet they're still operating smoothly. Not sure if that was true but there are gambling sites that doesn't have licenses and are doing fine without having one. Blocking specific countries with strict gambling rules would be a good solution so you won't be forced to get a license.  
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I think you'd better reach out to a lawyer who's specialized in this sort of legislation.
The chance that you will get a decent answer from this forum is pretty minimal and if you're going to start a gambling website, I would assume that you have enough capital to pay for a consult.

I think it might be possible to start a gambling website without a license, but I have no idea what the specifics would have to be in order to do so.
Better thing to do yet most people here on this forum wont really have much that precise answer regarding on this matter yet this would really need up a consultation of a certain lawyer who do reside up on op OP's place.
Just ask for an advice if you would still need a license or not yet each country do have significant laws about gambling industry or businesses.
Gambling businesses nowadays neither of them do have the license and some doesnt have but yet still operating.
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You will want to get a license if you are aiming to build a large website with a lot of traffic.  A few countries have very loose gambling laws but they are starting to crack down on crypto gambling and bringing on more strict regulations.  Be aware that this field is highly competitive and you may struggle to attract players for a very long time, so be prepared to operate at a loss.
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The license to make a gambling site I feel is very necessary to guarantee legality and convince many people if your gambling site is already registered. But for crypto gambling sites I don't think you need that but it would be better to have the right license. Because after all gambling is an activity that not many countries agree to.
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Licenses are needed on gambling sites, at least it will give confidence to customers around the world that the site you are running is a trusted and very safe site, getting recognition from the central leadership in controlling gambling in other words is legal in your country of residence.

If we think rationally, it's require somekind of license so just make sure that you have observe and maybe you can try to ask the government or other institution about crypto gambling license.
For what I heard, it's kindda difficult !

Of course, most of them make permits for the government and get obstacles that take a long time to process everything, there are other goals in it.
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If we think rationally, it's require somekind of license so just make sure that you have observe and maybe you can try to ask the government or other institution about crypto gambling license.
For what I heard, it's kindda difficult !
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You don't have to take licence according to you're customers but you have to take licence from where you are going to start the gambling business. You have to first check that whether your country support the gambling and it is legal to run it, then only you will need the license to run you're gambling business online of live both.
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I think you'd better reach out to a lawyer who's specialized in this sort of legislation.
The chance that you will get a decent answer from this forum is pretty minimal and if you're going to start a gambling website, I would assume that you have enough capital to pay for a consult.

I think it might be possible to start a gambling website without a license, but I have no idea what the specifics would have to be in order to do so.
I totally accept what you said since we don't know the residing country of the OP in other to find the best suited solution for the question he/she asked. The best thing he/she can do is to contact a cryptocurrency legal professional not just a lawyer that don't understand or have knowledge of cryptocurrency.
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maybe in the UK needs a license to create a gambling site but it still hard to track the site as to register a domain and hosting, we can hiding the real address of the owner. I think your visitor is not just come from the UK but from the other country and if they think that your site is good enough then maybe they will stay at your site. but I think it is better if you ask about the license in your country but I don't know from where you need to start because I don't have the experience for creating a gambling site before.
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I think you'd better reach out to a lawyer who's specialized in this sort of legislation.
The chance that you will get a decent answer from this forum is pretty minimal and if you're going to start a gambling website, I would assume that you have enough capital to pay for a consult.

I think it might be possible to start a gambling website without a license, but I have no idea what the specifics would have to be in order to do so.
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Of course you need a license if you really want your gamble site to gain high traffic and more user trust but it will be more nice if you can get a UK license since you're targeting the UK customer because some countries from Europe have already implemented blocking through local ISPs to circumvent traffic away from internationally operating and unlicensed gambling websites. If you can't get the UK license try another respected crypto friendly country license.
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If i wanted to create a crypto gambling site would i need to get a license in the countries where my customers would come from?

as in if i targeted people in the UK would i need a UK license?

or is the crypto space exempt from the licensing as it's not "fiat"

and if a licence is needed would i need one for each country i want my site to be used in or just one in general?

i realize this might be a nooby question but i wanted to ask as i don't know much about the legal side of the gambling scene.
I don't think you need license from all over the world where the customers from,it will be enough if you got license where you are from and which maybe to clarify the legal status of gambling in your country and I don't think we have specific license for the crypto gambling sites.
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That depends on the residence, from where you want to offer your gambling site. Europe for example has strict regularities for gambling based services.
You may ask also in this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=74.0
There was also an attourney with his thread, who answered such kinds of questions. I don't know, whether he is still active. If I will find his thread again, I will update this post.
Anyways, it is very hard to offer such service without solid background of knowledge about regularities, taxation etc.
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If i wanted to create a crypto gambling site would i need to get a license in the countries where my customers would come from?

as in if i targeted people in the UK would i need a UK license?

or is the crypto space exempt from the licensing as it's not "fiat"
You are correct. Since the payment in your casino will involve cryptocurrency which isn't regulated by banks you don't need a license for that.
I may have read somewhere tho that you need to have a license if you are operating with the biggest casino softwares.
Also imo it is important to consider getting an online casino license to ensure safety for both the operator and the customers.

Afaik the only casino I know that is licensed is Bitcasino.io. It's the one I have in my signature. You may want to check it out. Smiley
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Yes license is really need because if you don't have that of course no one will trust you,My country wallet have license by the government even we don't regulate this and government not recommend bitcoin here because this is good for economy even there's no assurance here in crypto i think many wallets,trading site and gambling site are need license so if they scam or hack us we can easily trace them where they are
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If i wanted to create a crypto gambling site would i need to get a license in the countries where my customers would come from?

as in if i targeted people in the UK would i need a UK license?

or is the crypto space exempt from the licensing as it's not "fiat"

and if a licence is needed would i need one for each country i want my site to be used in or just one in general?

i realize this might be a nooby question but i wanted to ask as i don't know much about the legal side of the gambling scene.

First of all, I don`t think that this thread should be on the Serious Discussion board. To that end, you have the Gambling discussion or the Legal one. Besides, there are already threads related to your question like this one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=863492.60
In my experience, you can get the license depending on where you are hosting your casino.
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Something which is online is hard to track where the customers are coming from unless you set a geographical exceptions like - only the UK customers can visit your website. In that case having an UK license is easy. Have a look on here: https://www.gov.uk/set-up-business

No matter you set geographical exceptions or not having a business license actually secure your personal asset if anything goes wrong with your business and if you had to liquidate it in future. The law can be different for countries so I suggest to check with your local lawyers who knows about online and crypto industry. You probably end up finding them online if you know where to look.
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If i wanted to create a crypto gambling site would i need to get a license in the countries where my customers would come from?

as in if i targeted people in the UK would i need a UK license?

or is the crypto space exempt from the licensing as it's not "fiat"

and if a licence is needed would i need one for each country i want my site to be used in or just one in general?

i realize this might be a nooby question but i wanted to ask as i don't know much about the legal side of the gambling scene.
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