Topic: Do online gamblers think about their privacy and anonymity? (Read 636 times)

The main reason I choose to gamble on crypto-gambling sites is because of Privacy and Anonymity.

No need for bank deposits as a mode of deposit, therefore, no need for self-verification, ID's, personal documents, and many more.

I really care for my privacy so this is freedom. But I do understand that while crypto is evolving and becoming one of the popular payment methods out there, there might be an event in the future where the crpyot-gambling site will require KYC. Reputable sites are regulated and part of the regulation is being centralized. The fact that we need to accept in the future if we want bitcoin to become a medium of transaction.

Know your customer policies are slowly making their way on this market and it is completely understandable because as bitcoin becomes more powerful governments are going to want to regulate it even more, however I can understand that casinos could ask for more information about you if you have won an important prize on their platform however many shady casinos use this as an excuse to not pay you claiming that you did something wrong when you tried to verify your identity with them, and this is so common that people over time have developed an even bigger dislike for these procedures.

I think if we stay at the same gambling website that we used to play gambling, the site will not use KYC because I see that maybe the new gambling site which will use KYC. The old gambling website will think about their members, and they will not apply KYC. But if the old gambling site uses KYC, I think we can still search for the other gambling website, and I am sure that we can found one or two sites which not used KYC.

That is why I always avoid the gambling site which uses KYC because I don't think I will need that. We can create a new account if they lock in our account or we can search the other gambling site to play gambling. I don't take too serious about that because I think we can easily to playing gambling in any gambling site without thinking about KYC or not.

That's the reason why it is much safer to gambling online because of the security that they can give to you, so as much as possible, during this quarantine, gambling online while there are a lot of people who are accessing online than physical casino. We all know that physical gambling casinos are prohibited due to the threat of the virus so never hesitate to go outside because it is not allowed. Gambling anonymously is really beneficial most especially that there are a lot of scammers and hackers online so it is much safer for you to play with that.

Especially when you are playing with huge amount of money, by that, you can spend money how much you want without worrying about your wallet and account. Plus, a gambling site with a high security will really increase its reputation to those customers who want to be safe in gambling casino.

Same here, I choose a gambling site that allows me to gamble without KYC.
When I was new in crypto most of the casinos here does not require a KYC, so people get used to it and they would always choose a site that gives them full privacy and anonymity, and I think for a crypto gambling site to be profitable, they need to give the demand of their gamblers.


I think the amount do matters because if a gambling site is licensed, they are regulated by a certain authority and there are rules to be followed.
personally I am not fully aware of the TOS of the gambling site I'm playing as my style is just to gamble without reading the TOS since if  my account will be lock, I can still make a new account again, meaning I don't risk a lot of money that I can't afford in case my account is lock for whatever reason.

I am playing gambling on the site which doesn't use KYC, so I don't have to try to verify my account. I feel that it is related to my identity, and I don't want to send or give to the website which I don't think that is important for me. I guess that if we are playing gambling, that means, we want to have fun with the gambling games, and we don't have to do KYC, no matter how much we deposit or withdraw the money.

Personally, I do not want my identity to be known when gambling, and I usually try to use services that do not require authentication. As I am already gambling for pleasure, I usually gamble with very low amounts of money, and therefore I do not encounter authentication problems when withdrawing money in the event of a possible normal win. I also want my identity to be unknown when gambling because I do not trust such services too much and I do not want anyone to know that I have earned that money in case of a possible big win. I am sure, many people think like me and pay attention to such factors when choosing services for online gambling. Anyway, I want to ask you this question. Why should we both deposit money and provide our identity or passport information to these services where we usually play games for pleasure?

You're correct, most of these cryptocurrency gambling platforms allow their gamblers to gamble without Privacy but in some of these cryptocurrency platforms, they demand for KYC before you as a gambler can gamble on their platform which to me is a good one; because of the laws of the land. Government have their rules and regulations guiding the gambling industries and whenever any platform flaut their laws they get license withdraw. Due to this, many cryptocurrency gambling platforms now allow KYC for their players whenever they intend to withdraw their winnings while some before the play.

For some reason, there are some users who dont like gambling platforms that require players to complete KYC documents because they want privacy. However, they can avoid it if they really dont like it. If a site wants KYC from every user, then they have to say in the rules before someone win a bet and that is what I often hear. If they want KYC in a situation where someone wins the jackpot then I think this is just a different attempt from the site to verify the user and what the site is doing can be considered wrong.

That's one of the drawback though. Transaction cost a lot even when just betting alone. There will be no cost when its onchain and that no coins go to waste. This is why some platforms are almost trying to target gambling projects like EOS that no fees for its transaction.

Maybe setting LN channel for dbet.io users will work.

This is just like what Darkdays said. Thank you for providing examples. I added a note in my post to show these examples.

I also discussed it in my comment here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54489271 but no one seems to notice or maybe they just don't care?

Yes, I also noticed the lack of KYC from gambling website. However, can I know what are those sites in which people are being force to do KYC when they won a large amount of money? Although, I still didn't experience winning huge amount of money in a gambling site, still it would be better for newbies to which of them are operating this kind of stuff.

Why would they do that if in the first place they can implement the system before the user won a large chunk of money. There is nothing wrong in implementing KYC though.

why do we need a poll for? It's just a list of casinos that do not require verification not a contest on which is the best casino.

Most crypto-casinos don't ask for verification at least when you make small deposits/withdrawals. But if you read their ToS you will find that they reserve the right to do it.
I didn't go through all of websites on the list but here is what I found on few of them:

Privacy is very important for most of us who are playing gambling and there are many reasons for this. You must have noticed that if anyone won a big amount they never come in front of us and tell us that they won a big amount because they do not want to disclose this information to anyone. We never know who won the jackpots and lotteries and all this stuff is anonymous.

In 777 coin, you have an option not to go with email verification and you will just keep your account that's made when you visited the casino.

There's still a few gambling sites that have the on chain gambling method and here's a sportsbook similar to Directbet but most gamblers stick to off chain gambling sites nowadays since you can save a lot of transaction fee and accepting transactions with no confirmations can cause more issues. And even onehash that have similar features offers an off chain alternative as fees can sometimes be expensive if you have a small bankroll.

The problem here in Gambling Online is there are sites that allows you to play without asking any KYC while you are not winning big amount,but once you hit the jackpot or something near that prize?they will suddenly ask for your KYC and then the problem will start.

For me sites must be clear about their policy before letting players bet so in case there are issues,at least it can easily answered or players will avoid playing on their sites.

Majority of the people here prefer playing in casinos that protects their privacy and anonymity but it's better if you have set up a poll so we'll find out the percentage from those who will participate, but most likely those in favor will win, because of the many online gambling casinos with anonymity as one of their main feature.

You have already a very long list and I'm sure more will be added as one of their promoters or players will comment glad that you already have blackjack.fun there.

There are others too. For example Stake and 777coins both this site's take privacy and  anonymity seriously. I have been plahing on both of them and they have never asked for KYC, except email verification which is kind of mandatory on every crypto gambling website.

You would only use VPN if your country does restrict online gambling activity yet ISP would able to check out your browsing activity thats why if you do need to save up your ass from trouble then you would really need this kind of thing where you can masked out your activity towards gambling without being detected by your government but if not then you can directly play as you like and this doesnt particularly avoiding the government mean but also
in other peoples eyes as well.You can play anonymously and not being known online and thats the beauty when you do gamble here on crypto space.

I think I can agree with this. Because with online crypto gambling, you can hide your gambling activities and also by using your VPN, you don't need to worry if someone is spying your online activities. I think most online gamblers are after for privacy and anonymity. And if you are a small timer, a lot of websites don't require KYC and you can enjoy the games without worrying that you need to submit your docs. Aside from benefiting all the other conveniences that online gambling is offering to a player.

Yes for me anonymity is very important where especially in my country online gambling is banned and you could go to tail if you're found out gambling online.
That's why i use cryptocurrency gambling sites because it requires no personal data or KYC and any gambling site that requires it is a red flag for me.

I use to bet MMA there in DirectBet back in the days. We can bet with just our BTC address and we are all good to go to receive the winnings when we win. We don't even need to register. These are the kind of games that use to exist in bitcoin, now they are gone including the secondstrade where we can play binaryoptions with just btc wallet. No registration required.

I will not use a casino or betting site in bitcoin/crypto-coins that ask KYC or any other form of identification. For me it's like a "blasphemy", a totally non sense.
Plus they are not allowed to provide betting service in my country (Italy) since they are not affiliated to AAMS our local agency. So why I should identify with a service that is not recognized in my country?

I am seriously missing nowadays the excellent service provided by DirectBet one of the best and honest betting site that I have seen in my life.

Choose a bet, and get an address to send a payment. Easy as click on a link.
For information, as example about their awesome service, during the closure of the site they payed with a bonus earnings of affiliate (even if minimum for payment was not reached!)

Oh heeelll yeah. I definitely do, there is no way I wouldn't care about it. Hell if I am gambling on a brand new place I try to change my IP, use ToR and basically get out as quickly as possible and delete and change everything. Of course some parts of it is the fact that I do not want to be found and that is understandable, I wouldn't want everyone to know who I am but that is not really that big of a deal, uncomfortable sure but wouldn't create too much trouble for me.

However, more important part is the fact that I do not want government to know that I am gambling, its not allowed in my nation to gamble crypto and there has been some people who have been punished for it (I think it was around 700 dollars or so) and that is a money I rather not pay if I could avoid it.

Despite some casinos being legal like having a license in curacao egaming, these casinos doesn't require KYC to its client. earnbet.io for instance doesn't ask KYC too. The good thing about being legal is that less chance of scam for both parties.

But privacy seem to be the more important for gamblers. I myself don't wanna submit documents to the casinos, we don't even knew who the owners of these casinos.

Am always conscious about my privacy when dealing with online gambling casinos. The protection of gamblers privacy should be prioritize by all gambling platforms, though there are limitations to this. Different countries with different laws working go or against gambling platforms, particularly in my country, we don't have rules against gambling platforms while others do. Some gambling platforms still can't allow their gamblers to gamble without registration or providing their privacy while in some zones you're free to gamble without any registration.

Also, most of these gambling platforms that allow gamblers without getting to know their privacy are sometimes faulting the laws of the land.

If we are talking about the crypto casino, there shouldn't be any KYC. We use crypto casinos not just because of the accepted assets but the anonymity we are expecting from it. The email and sometimes phone number is enough as verification and should not exceed that because bitcoin which is the father of crypto is an anonymity based asset.

We do have many choices in the crypto casino option that doesn't offer KYC and offering a good privacy protection about their players. Launching a casino with a KYC requirement in it is a bad move. Players would normally avoid that kind of casino. Gamblers don't really want to have their identity through the internet especially we are dealing with money.

^ Definitely right, online casino players have different ideas and preferences when it comes to anonymity but mostly choose to be anonymous when gambling because of additional security on the risk of identity theft and other threats. For me, I prefer playing in online casinos because of both anonymity and convenience and that is for the same reason, anonymity for identity security and convenience since physical casinos are pretty far from my residence besides I am not a big-time gambler and most of the time I only play gambling for entertainment and fun.

I think almost all crypto gambling still prioritizes the privacy of its users without having to involve KYC for registration and withdrawal etc. That way, I want to add https://yolodice.com/ as one of the crypto gambling sites that think about or care about the privacy of its users.

Yes, that's true from there people managing the casinos knows who among their clients are considered high rollers and big businessmen, anonymity, and data privacy are two things that makes online gambling more attractive, and there's a possibility that online gambling will surpass gambling casinos in terms of revenues.

Hell yeah! That is why most of us are here. 
We don't want our personal information to just leak out there.

We don't want our wives to know we are gambling some of the money which could have been for his shopping.
The neighbors too of course. We don't want them searching our names and just finds out we are gambling even though not a lot.

Thank you for the list.

Thanks for adding 777Coin the gambling site that I'm promoting in my signature campaign, you can be sure that this gambling site is very trusted so do it's sister company Bitvest, they have been here for several years,I guess many will be added as many anonymous gambling sites are launching, because casino gamblers are now shifting to online gambling based on one recent survey

And also if your identity is revealed there's a lot of leeches when you are going to win on your gambling game. If you will win big they are going to be around you and if you lose big they will look down on you. There's a lot of factors when you are gambling and your identity is exposed. Online or physical gambling, it's better to hide your identity so you will lessen your chance of getting problem.

And I highly suggest to stick to online gambling everyone. Stay safe!!! 

Privacy is very important for most gamblers, I like to be anonymous while I am gambling, this will make me safer especially for gamblers who are wagering a huge amount of money, you know, the world is so dirty, it's possible that the site will go after you if you are a big bettors of if you win big, these are just possibilities but it could happen, so if we have a chance to hide our identity then I think we will choose to be anonymous.

However, there is a risk for this as well, if we gamble with huge amount and we like to be anonymous, we can't file a legal action against a site in case they will scam us in the long run.

I think a lot of us agree that privacy and being anonymous has more benefits compared to playing in a casino where KYC is a must and that casino has all your real data.We don’t know how that data will be handled.For example a grumpy employe can steal this kind of data and use it for all sort of things.Based on this I think privacy and KYC less casinos are most followed and played from the gambling community.

Privacy concerns is not limited to a specific group of users, so you would have online gamblers who care about their data and those who do not.
Privacy is not the only factor to consider, reputation of the site should weigh more. There is a lot of risk that comes with a site which is not trusted or reputable even if they offer registration without the need for KYC.
There's also the case of how much information is required, I used a gambling site recently, which required the smallest of details to allow a withdrawal, no prove to the data provided was requested and I could imagine a lot of users got in with fake identity.

I personally do not really care about protecting my identity when its gambling related. I sometimes gamble with my crypto as well and it is convenient not needing to pass a kyc verification.
But to be honest when I start gambling bigger balances I feel much more convenient to place my bets on fiat supported sports books like for example Betfair. and I mostly use the betting exchange where you wager peer 2 peer and you do not have any risk to get your account limited or restricted cause you don't win from the house but from other players

Sometimes people prefer to provide their KYC if the gambling is legal in their country and they do not want to involve in any type of complications by hiding their gambling earnings and therefore avoiding the tax. Although this number may be few but that's one reason why some people will prefer to do KYC and declare everything crystal clear.

Gladly, we have anonymous gambling websites which don't require KYC for the members so we can still play gambling without revealing our identity. We don't want to be the next target by the scammers or hackers because they will search for the people who cannot be careful to protect their identity. When it comes to the internet, we really need to be careful because no one can guarantee that we will always get safety from bad people. So we should not easily to give our identity to the website which we don't know that is good or not.

Most of the online gambling website doesn't require this KYC on their websites. That might be a big deal for a lot of users since they are risking their personal details so a website but there are also users who don't really care about their personal information since most of it is already online anyway. Probably KYC is use for user control and also most of the time for security of the website since it involve a lot of money in a gambling website it is just normal for them to take counter measures especially for a lot of hackers out their.

Personal I wouldn't do KYC for any gambling website because i don't really want to risk my personal information for a shady websites but i could do it for some gambling websites that is already trusted that is in the listed. But we love gambling for even for a lot of user kyc will not matter at all.

People chooses online gambling sites to hide their identity to the world so most of them will choose KYC less sites even if they got less offers, actually there huge number of sites have no KYC policies but under some circumstances they might ask you personal details to save your funds from any hack attacks so you must be ready to give your details at any time even if there is no KYC required.

Provided each user does not violate their TOCs right?
Assuming everybody abides by the house rules, I wonder how long this will last? Perhaps even SwC Poker will change their tune once authorities starts knocking on their door or when big amounts are involved? There was a case posted in the previous comments of an online casino suddenly asking personal information.

Imagine your identity will scattered and used by scammers to scam people do you think its good? or you are been target by so many scammers or other attacks since your privacy is not been protected by the site you played do you think it still enjoyable if you encounter this problem? so that is important and ask yourself if you can really risk all just to play.

i don't think that applies at SwC Poker. i've never heard of anyone getting hit with KYC. this is what their terms say: https://swcpoker.eu/house-rules#require-dox


that's a big plus in my book. i hate giving out my dox. that goes for exchanges, casinos, whatever. they just can't be trusted to secure your data.

Obviously we do, we like privacy even in things that we normally do in life.
Online gambling in crypto provides privacy, you can make an account with an email only, no need for KYC information or to submit a document, which is different in fiat operated online gambling, and I think sooner, more gamblers will try to escape the fiat gambling and will gamble in crypto casinos.

Well, I think that passionate gamblers don't think much about their privacy and anonimity, they are primarily focused on game, how to win and then withdraw the money.
But they should pay attention to their privacy and how their data are being collected and kept,. All legitimate online platforms are obliged by law and KYC is a must, also they need to protect your data but not all gamblers play in legitimate online casinos and there is a big risk of personal data abuse.

Every licensed gambling platform should abide by law when asked to. So, all of them may ask you to do a KYC and to prove your source.
There are both kind of people. One who don't care but they too would love the simplicity of come win and leave. If forced to, they would fill their KYC without any issue. The other group are careful about their privacy, they'd rather leave a small amount they exposing their identity. And there's the last group that uses gambling site to launder their wrongful earning, they are why KYC are made for. If found they could leave coins but won't reveal themselves.

The answer on this question depends on your position, from the place where you live in. To not get too much into that, there are many people and different personalities, but for us ordinary people it's the same, what we care about is easy access, easy deposits and withdraws, and it's not a problem to do a KYC, problem is money transfer, at least it was a problem for me in early days, and even now with fiat I would have to go to the bank, to open special account for foreign currencies, to explain them every time where the money is coming from, to sign some papers... crazy things, I don't wish to get trough that! I like crypto for that, for me as a person who live in a third world country crypto opened a whole new world, and I am not leaving it, even if my government create some laws about it (for now there aren't any) I will hide, I will find a way!

I think yes, gamblers do think about their privacy and anonymity. I tried gambling toa site but as of now they don't have various kind of games and there are gamblers deposit and I also tried deposit and withdraw there. Registration doesn't need KYC and you can use nickname to avoid using real name and you can hide your game status. I am not promoting this site.
Yolodice.com

freebitco.in does not need KYC but i am not sure when it comes to winning a jackpot there, will they still let you withdraw without the KYC ?

Most of the gambling sites will not ask for KYC until they feel that someone is misusing their service.

As far as I know, freebitco.in don't ask for a KYC neither. I didn't see this one in your list. You can deposit and withdraw any amount and it is all automated. Did these a lot before and they never asked me any questions. (Not saying they'll keep doing this or advising you to deposit huge money)

KYC is a big "NO" for me especially when it comes to "crypto-online" gambling but I already accept that if ever there will be big winnings, a KYC might surely be asked even it's not on their terms.

Crypto Exchanges and Crypto Gambling platforms are different. For the latter, it shouldn't be a mandatory requirement as it destroyed the purpose of why gamblers choose crypto in gambling.

For fiat gambling, I understand that KYC is needed here. In fact, I'm a verified user in one of the local online casinos here where I submitted my personal credentials.

Bottom line, the reason I shifted to crypto-gambling many years ago is the less hassle way of placing bets, simply register-deposit-bet. Less hassle compare to fiat gambling sites wherein KYC is a must before betting.

Data privacy is sensitive.. if we go to an offline casino (traditional) Do the players who win are asked for privacy data before withdrawing money??  it's actually not important for gambling site owners to know who are the winners on their site unless they are working with the government in supervising gambling players..

the sale of privacy data is still intense in the deep web..  just recently I heard about the sale of dozens of user data in one of the hacked online stores..

The fact that you're using Bitcoin in any activity like online gambling, you want to be anonymous on that platform. This is one of the factors that gamblers considered for choosing online gambling. Most of the crypto gambling platforms do not require KYC which is gamblers are afraid of, there's no need to put even single information about yourself.

Also, they can get a lot of benefits when they're gambling on crypto-related platforms, the first one is to gain a lot of profit when BTC's price surge and the second is free BTC rolls especially when you're an active player on that site.

Yes, it's just added recently. Thanks Yogee.

It's cool right? I have seen some casinos do also this.

There's no chat room though.

try scrolling down on the list on the first page . 7 coin is in the bottom   .

thats cool . this is one of the diffenition of private gambling    . afaik 7 coin doesnt have a chat room right  ? this makes the site more literally private because your typically gambling alone vs the computer but still its not like a real computer a.i because the result here is still random and not being manipulated   .  this is why gambling site like this are growing because they are succesful because people loves to protect thier privacy while still ejoying the game 

There are reasons why gambler shift to crypto gambling platforms, and one of them is privacy and anonymity.

By using cryptocurrencies on their gambling venture, they are protected by one layer of privacy at the least, and most crypto gambling platforms do not really ask much questions when it comes to your identity. Just be sure that you are the only one using the account and do not break their ToS and you'll have a pleasant time.

I have had experiences with different online casinos that offer different things, and so far crypto casinos offer the most features I like in a gambling platform. There's really just no strings attached when you play on these platforms as compared to casinos that require KYC. Who knows what they're doing with the information they took from you, plus the fact that you gamble online makes it really more worrying to know where your data might end up.

All of them will surely ask out KYC if they would find out something fishy into your gambling activity and thats always been part of their ToS but most of the time where these casinos doesnt really have any problems
in terms of anonymity and privacy aspect.

You can play all you want and create an account as easy as 1-2-3 and answering the question if gamblers do think about their privacy? Definitely yes and thats the main reason why crypto gambling booms up

due to this feature where you can play anonymously which is way more better and totally contrary if we do play on fiat casinos/gambling places.

Where is 777coin?

You don't need to register when you visit the platform because, there's an automated account for everyone but you can go in full account if you want to keep the account that's automatically made for you.

As I was expecting, the consensus is everyone prefers to play on KYC less platforms but there's a few willing to compromise provided that it is a licensed online casino.

I wonder what level of information are you willing to provide?
- email?
- phone number?
- identification card?
- passport?


What Darkdays said kind of bugs me.

If there is a clause stated somewhere in the Terms and Conditions that online casinos can ask for verification anytime they see it necessary, that just means there is no KYC less gambling platform in reality. The no verification policy appears to be a marketing strategy to attract small time and average players.  The big time players probably knew they are always required to submit their personal details.

I'm not questioning the strategy by the way. It actually makes sense. Online casino owners allows anonymous registration and get more players in the process while complying with regulatory authorities.

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There appears to be a different view on what a legit online casino is.
TimeTeller says the legit do not ask for KYC even if you win a big amount while ryzaadit says otherwise and citing a case.

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I have updated the list and added casinos provided in the comments. I encourage the readers to please verify first.

I am constantly gambling in different sites listed in the forum but I always choose a gambling site that values anonymity, though there are some condition  that a user will have to undergo a KYC compliance if it breaks a certain rules or a certain amount of withdrawal is big that requires some KYC compliance but I never face this kind of requirement, because first I don't gamble much and I don't break the rules of a certain gambling sites.

so I value my privacy and anonymity 100%.

777Coin the sister company of Bitvest deserves to be in the spot also, they are very reputable, they have been here for a long time and they have a very active signature campaign here in Bitcointalk, gamblers favor anonymous gambling so expect to see this as the trend and many gambling with the same features coming out.

Of course I as an online gambling player prioritizes privacy and anonymity, therefore I am looking for online gambling websites without
KYC procedure. For me personal data is valuable, therefore privacy and anonymity are important to me. My favorite online gambling
websites are stake.com and bitvest.io, both websites are not only without KYC. But have many types of gambling games and most
importantly easy to make deposits and withdrawals.

[1] Yeh, same.

[2] Really? one of the greatest cases i have been seen from some big player.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cloudbet-not-responding-for-my-330-btc-withdrawal-5106313

Cloudbet with an anonymous service, still asking an ID + KYC from his customer withholding around 330 BTC. The luck things, he got the bitcoin after a few trying to asking some help to all bitcointalk users. From this case, I thinking casinos and other things will always be required KYC no matter he has a service anonymous service, etc.

The reason for the development of online casino is for convenience and by far anonymity has always been the thing that the Internet caters. Of course these people want the aasurance that they are anonymous, that is the reason that they are gambling, we can always play at physical casino but I think that it is evident to online gamblers why they want to play online, well most of them do want the privacy so I could be wrong. The reason for playing with complete anonymity besides the fact that they can be targeted when they win big is that most of them are ashamed of what people will think of them, this stigma that we put on people are making things worse, this worsens someone's addiction, instead of people knowing that someone gamble, the anonymity that online gambling offers becomes a safe haven for people that wants to get out of the ever prejudiced eyes of the masses.

if im not mistaken i think i saw a kind of survey like this before and i read that many gamblers do like to be anonymous while playing a gambling  . that could also be the reason why they are here playing with cryptos than on fiat because some things that are related to cryptos are anonymous while some still request for your names and other private infos.  for me i just  play traditionally like signing up a bit and provide name , email , etc as long as the site is legit

this is a theme that generates only very different positions, for example people are in the crypto world to escape government control and many casinos say that they do not ask their customers to do KYC, what I see Is that when a casino customer wins but from 30 BTC the casino asks the customer to do kyc, it has these cases in the acam accusation section. My question that I always have was:

if the casino has no license, why ask the customer who won more than 30 BTC to do KYC?

the casino's argument has always been that it has a curacao license, but they forget that when the customer opened the account and made a deposit the casino did not ask the customer to do kyc.

this has been the biggest problem with online casinos, which is why talking about privacy while online casinos constantly ask their customers to do KYC whenever the customer wins a lot of bitcoin is a subject that is far from reaching any consensus

I think most gamblers think and cares about their privacy and anonymity, that is why most gamblers hates submitting and filling up KYC for them protect their own personal information and data. It is the reason why i am so picky in gambling sites, so i could play gambling more safely and secured without any worries about hacking and identity theft.

I prefer to play gambling on the website, which doesn't have KYC like other members. I don't want to send the document because I am playing gambling, and that is why I choose to play online gambling. I cannot find a physical casino in here, or I don't know how to find that place, and I know online gambling, so I prefer to play online gambling.

Once people have found what the online gambling site they search, they will not move to another website because they will feel comfortable with what they choose. If they try another gambling website, I think they want to check what is the other gambling site provide which is not available on the site that they played before. I think many online gamblers will concern about their privacy and anonymity.

Here you can find the List of 20 Bitcoin Gambling Sites (http://100bookies.com/gambling-sites-that-accept-bitcoin-eng/), which allow anonymous registration.

Maybe you are referring to Scam Accusations board not Scam Assumption.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

Legit online casinos will not require KYC even if the player wins big time.

@OP, if you can update also your list as suggested by other members here- akhjob, cabalism13, ralle14

I prefer also to play in online casinos that don't require KYC and you will find a lot of them in this forum alone.

Online gambling sites are evolved just because people who don't want to expose their personal information to public places while enjoying their bets, because gambling is considered as a sin in some religions.So yes people loves to play anonymously and most of the gambling sites operating with cryptos are KYC less.

And all of the services.

Will be asking you a KYC went your money or winning a big amount on their platform. Went you meet this situation they will ask you to do a KYC for a reason "Identity Confirmation" with a few reasons even the Casino offering an Anynoumous service. Care or not went you have a lot of money on the casino and need to past KYC before you can withdrawal the money. You will be still doing a KYC on the casino, why not everyone does not meet this problem cause they gamble with a small fund more proof you can find it on the "Scam Assumption".

I mostly play online gambling with no or less KYC, because I'm aware of my privation especially for new or unknown online casinos. But for popular, trusted, and good reputation online casinos, I'm fine if I should submit my personal information. I'm just don't want my identity got misusing from them. I think majority of gamblers are not want to submitting their KYC to online casino.

I play online gambling because i do not want to disclose my identity. Even if i perform the KYC, my freinds and family won't know that i am playing gambling online. This is totally different from gambling in physical casino where your friends can see you that you were the one who was gambling.

Majorly people would like to stay anonymous and would not like to give their KYC details for various reasons they have it. It may differ from person to person and major reason is that they do not know how the KYC details could be misused by the sites if provided to them.

I always avoid online casinos with KYC but I don't mind playing on those listed sites that could potentially require KYC since I rarely win more than BTC0.1 from my small deposits. I like what Welsh mentioned about KYC in general and the same thing can be said with exchanges since you've mentioned it. I think it just depends on the certain guidelines you have before handing out your personal information.

More bitcoin gambling sites that could be included in the list

As much as possible I always wanted to be anonymous especially when playing in an online casino.  So, I prefer to play in an online casino where KYC is not an issue.  I often avoided the casino that requires identity verification and plays within the limit where a Casino won't ask for KYC since some Casino asks for identity verification if we happen to win a very huge amount of money.

I think most crypto casinos and betting sites do not require KYC. It would be ironic or even like a suicide for them to offer crypto gambling and require KYC. However, just like some exchanges which provide a certain withdrawal and deposit limit to account owners with no KYC, crypto casinos and betting sites may occasionally require account owners to provide certain personal information. This is normally done on grounds that suspicious activities are going on with your account or a certain violation of the site's ToS is observed.

Majority of gambling sites are anonymous and they will only ask for KYC for verification, that is one of the advantages of playing online your information is confidential but if a gambler is going to play with huge amount he should make sure play with online gambling site that has a good reputation.

I'd rather have KYC in terms of online gambling tbh. Not that I don't mind it or anything, but those sites with KYC can prove to sometimes actually be just a simple scam. It hurts not only my funds but also the time I've spent playing there and hence, I'd rather stick to one with KYC. Ofc, as long as the KYC procedures don't go overboard a certain line, I'm fine with it. Besides, I'm pretty sure casinos ask for KYC procedures just to pretty much ask for the age of the recipient so that they can assure that those playing in their site is of legal age.

Just say gambling though. I don't honestly see any hassle with that, and if they look bad at you, so be it. I doubt you need to keep up pretense against someone who judges you just because you gamble. It's like judging people you see outside just because they wear tattoos, smoke, and the like.

I do but as Welsh pointed out there's no harm if you are requested for a KYC unless you are dealing with a not reputed or unlicensed gambling sites, that totally harm your privacy if they gone out of thin air and there's a data leak happen or identity selling somewhere on the darknet.

I'd still prefer sites that doesn't request a KYC, just always being careful not to stack huge amount of balances over them.

Privacy is important, however its extremely difficult to retain privacy in every aspect, and in almost all instances a compromise has to be made. I definitely am not a fan of rigorous KYC procedures which are generally not needed in most cases, but I'd actually prefer to be using a licensed gambling site, with KYC in place (as that's usually a requirement for licensed gambling sites) because of the guarantees that are usually put in place, and having someone accountable if anything were to go wrong.

I'd disagree. Those that are not requesting KYC are sometimes breaking the law, and therefore are not licensed to be operating unless they operate in a country which does not require licensing. Even then though, the majority of countries which don't require licensing can't provide a service to countries which require a gambling site to be licensed.

Having said that, most countries are operating in these countries that don't require licensing. However, the point is KYC doesn't always mean its bad. There's perfectly legitimate reasons why KYC is needed. Although, I do disagree how in depth some KYC is, but in some countries like the UK its absolutely necessary to be able to run any legitimate gambling business.

Returning to the original point; I don't think its a bad PR move to request KYC, and license your gambling business. I actually, would prefer myself to be using a licensed gambling business because they at least have to abide by rules of the gambling commission, and sometimes have to guarantee certain if something goes wrong. Unlicensed sites have no guarantees, and can just shut up without having anyone accountable.

There are always clues to a person's identity: IP address, email / phone verification even the type of browser and mobile phone device being used (VPN's aside).  While the block-chain itself holds a record of each and every movement of funds across the network, the Lightning Network offers a degree of privacy as transactions are purportedly encrypted and are daisy-chained between two neighbouring nodes, not the entire network.  Some Casinos even offer LN nodes/channels for cheaper withdrawals.

If you look at the terms and conditions of most gambling sites (even crypto ones), you will find that almost all will have a clause that allows them to request identity verification from any user.

Normally they will only do this under very particular circumstances though, e.g. if they're suspected of money laundering or manipulating the system.

Obviously requesting KYC from a user is extremely bad PR, so you can understand why these platforms would be hesitant to do it.

That said, there are some benefits to the practice, and most casinos will likely implement some relaxed KYC procedures eventually due to increasing pressure from the financial authorities.

most of them yes, though there are still quite a number who don't care.
Besides, when winning a jackpot will surely give you a hassle especially if some people started to question you and your money (that goes for gamblers who doesn't care about their privacy)

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Ofcourse, privacy is one of the main reason to use Bitcoin for online gambling. Moreover, gambling in some countries is yet to be legalised so there might be a problem when you access a fiat based online casino regarding deposits and withdrawals.

If there is another group of bitcoin users who value their privacy, I was thinking it has to be the online gamblers. If you love gambling and you want to remain anonymous, online casinos that supports Bitcoin has to be the perfect platform. This is just a guess of mine and I don't know if it's 100% true. The same with crypto exchanges, there might also users who doesn't mind submitting personal information to bypass deposit and withdrawal restrictions.

I would like to ask the Bitcointalk gambling community if how many of you here play on KYC less online casinos?

If you don't know which of them don't or rarely request verification, I searched over the internet for a list and here's what I gathered
I was planning to make a comprehensive list but I am aware there are more Bitcoin online casinos not in here. Please add more if I missed your favorite anonymous online gambling platform. I will try to improve the list if there are platforms that are like exchanges who do not require KYC if they withdraw or deposit a certain amount of Bitcoin.

Additional Note:
Please read the Terms and Conditions of each bitcoin online gambling websites before using them. Most of them, including the platforms listed above, would allow you to create an anonymous account then let you deposit, play and withdraw but there's a clause somewhere in their TOCs that they can require you to pass verification at anytime they deem necessary. Examples are posted here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54489271


Links for reference:
- https://btcplaymania.com/anonymous-bitcoin-casinos
- https://casino.guru/top-online-casinos/anonymous-casinos