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Yes, that is normal, but for some people, they cannot accept the ETH price is at a low price. They want to get a profit from ETH, but they cannot realize that they cannot always get it from ETH. The market still volatile, and that happens too with ETH price. So if they can be patient and still wait, I think soon they will see ETH price will start to increase because I am sure that ETH is one of the potential coins that will be able to hit the highest price again.

Whatever it was,but Ethereum is one of the best coins that really benefits the entire crypto community.As dapp develops, the price will grow accordingly.So patience is really the key to success.

I understand that everyone here is hoping for an return, and fall in price of ETH is not only because of bitcoin, but because of decline in investor interest in participating in crowdfunding. Actually all of this correlates with each other, where investor interest affects crypto including bitcoin and bitcoin affects altcoin. So if there happen is a decline in investor interest and price of bitcoin then it is certain that altcoin will follow direction of both of these trends, so this is normal now.

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If ETH 2.0 would be unsuccessful, I do not know what would happen with ETH. People are getting curious about this coin, because it is the most popular altcoin and the price was not raising before yesterday. We all hope that ETH would be back from ashes.

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Quote from: r32godzilla on September 18, 2019, 04:47:32 AM

Ethereum did 20% profit in last 2-3 days.
Also other altcoins are doing well, could we talk that altcoin season is already here? Bitcoin stagnates and there is a possibility for the growth of altcoins Cool

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Not yet, we need to wait more days or weeks to tell it really is.
We saw BITCOIN price to go high for several days also and went back to low.
This might be a falls alarm or a bull trap, for me this is still a good time to gather more ETHEREUM before the real run.

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the price of ETH is down right now but for me it is normal because the value of ETH depends on bitcoin price so it would be better to hold your ETH first and sell when its price goes up so you can earn great and you will never lose.

Yes, that is normal, but for some people, they cannot accept the ETH price is at a low price. They want to get a profit from ETH, but they cannot realize that they cannot always get it from ETH. The market still volatile, and that happens too with ETH price. So if they can be patient and still wait, I think soon they will see ETH price will start to increase because I am sure that ETH is one of the potential coins that will be able to hit the highest price again.

Whatever it was,but Ethereum is one of the best coins that really benefits the entire crypto community.As dapp develops, the price will grow accordingly.So patience is really the key to success.

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Ethereum did 20% profit in last 2-3 days.
Also other altcoins are doing well, could we talk that altcoin season is already here? Bitcoin stagnates and there is a possibility for the growth of altcoins Cool

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Our thoughts on IEO and ETH vary. Almost every project uses ERC20 and I think the current is still using ERC20. I'm now not doing anything against ETH, it's not going to make ETH die.

There are those who do long-term investments, so under no circumstances will they sell ETH, before the coin soars high. Maybe if you are a daily trader, you can sell your coins because of the price decreases.

I just hope that Altcoin could be like the year 2017. Grin

i am an ethereum holder and plan to invest long-term or until ethereum returns to what it was in 2017.
just like you, right now i am not doing anything about ethereum other than just waiting for the market to recover and i hope it will happen in the near future.

It's hard to expect an altseason like what happened in 2017 although I also expect it. But buying ethereum at current prices in my opinion is a good decision because ethereum prices are quite low against bitcoin. I think investing long term in ethereum is a safe decision because of its large liquidity and is also widely used as a major currency in many exchangers

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Fell like back of the year 2017 i was more profitable this time take enjoy but almost two year gone ETH price almost under red. Supply cap more decrease many time so now the only one ways take you can hold long time then i hope you will take enjoy.

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Quote from: nabilapimpo on September 11, 2019, 05:45:32 AM

Our thoughts on IEO and ETH vary. Almost every project uses ERC20 and I think the current is still using ERC20. I'm now not doing anything against ETH, it's not going to make ETH die.

There are those who do long-term investments, so under no circumstances will they sell ETH, before the coin soars high. Maybe if you are a daily trader, you can sell your coins because of the price decreases.

I just hope that Altcoin could be like the year 2017. Grin

i am an ethereum holder and plan to invest long-term or until ethereum returns to what it was in 2017.
just like you, right now i am not doing anything about ethereum other than just waiting for the market to recover and i hope it will happen in the near future.

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Our thoughts on IEO and ETH vary. Almost every project uses ERC20 and I think the current is still using ERC20. I'm now not doing anything against ETH, it's not going to make ETH die.

There are those who do long-term investments, so under no circumstances will they sell ETH, before the coin soars high. Maybe if you are a daily trader, you can sell your coins because of the price decreases.

I just hope that Altcoin could be like the year 2017. Grin

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Ethereum still has a great chance of survival and growing regardless of the low activities of ICO switching majorly to IEO, which then bypass ETH as a currency to be used in fund raising. Never to forget that most of these new projects are still been built on the ethereum platform which is still a win for the ethereum.

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Quote from: slashz9 on September 10, 2019, 09:07:05 PM

if there is no progress from ETH it could be worse.
but I heard Vitalik saying that he would launch a program about ETH related to unlimited unlimited total supply, and would make max supply.
until now that hasn't happened.

maximum supply is not a solution. ethereum needs more than that, a solution of scalability and fast&cheap transactions that is needed. and switch to using consensus POS, if they want to recover and rise.

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I am not sure ethereum will also die, because the ICO project still uses the ethereum platform until now, because ethereum is also the biggest and most powerful blockchain to survive, so I don't think ethereum will die too.

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I will keep invest in ETH, for me ETH is a great coin and giving me a lot profit. I still confidance and believe ETH price will rise, so i still invest in ETH for longterm.

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Quote from: Malamok101 on September 10, 2019, 08:13:55 PM

the price of ETH is down right now but for me it is normal because the value of ETH depends on bitcoin price so it would be better to hold your ETH first and sell when its price goes up so you can earn great and you will never lose.

Yes, that is normal, but for some people, they cannot accept the ETH price is at a low price. They want to get a profit from ETH, but they cannot realize that they cannot always get it from ETH. The market still volatile, and that happens too with ETH price. So if they can be patient and still wait, I think soon they will see ETH price will start to increase because I am sure that ETH is one of the potential coins that will be able to hit the highest price again.

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I will do it with Etehreum. i might go 50 percent of what i have all in.
I do believe that this ETH will go high again once the implementation of 2.0 are all done 100 percent.
Just wait more and bag more if goes deeper.

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Eth is like the gangs of LA, it'll never die....

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if there is no progress from ETH it could be worse.
but I heard Vitalik saying that he would launch a program about ETH related to unlimited unlimited total supply, and would make max supply.
until now that hasn't happened.

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the price of ETH is down right now but for me it is normal because the value of ETH depends on bitcoin price so it would be better to hold your ETH first and sell when its price goes up so you can earn great and you will never lose.

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Quote from: Kemarit on September 10, 2019, 03:40:13 PM

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People are bashing Ethereum all day long. You must know that a lot of people are still trusting Ethereum just like me. Why would people still make their coin based of Ethereum. This means that they are believing in it.

I guess everyone is bashing Ethereum because of the dramatic decline of the price and the people behind it. But Vitalik step up and says that they are going to up the ante and release Ethereum 2.0 in early 2020. Of course there are projects which developed and using ERC20 but perhaps in due time developers are going to move on the next technology and I could say that this could really hurt Ethereum in the long run. But I wouldn't say that its a do or die scenario for Ethereum, it's just this is how crypto works, if you don't evolved you die, but Ethereum devs are still very active and I think Vitalik is still on top of the situation here.

Nothing do last forever and as you said if the tech comes outdated then expected for its popularity to go down and the masses would gradually move out into a better tech or option.
Good thing into its team that they don't surrender and tend to keep up on the game of this very tight competition on cryptospace.If you don't make such move then expect for your coin to lagged behind.For supporters out there with ETH then its really a matter of risk if they would tend to follow this platform into its possible plans ahead.The good stuff here is that they do managed to keep up the pace in spite on having issues.Even myself would consider on putting up or accumulate some.

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I wouldn't refer to Ethereum as performing poorly. In fact, when you take a good look at all the altcoins you can see ETH has done a great job more than many of them. Though it's porr when compared to Bitcoin, it's better than majority of the alts.

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Ethereum is one of good potential altcoin. So it will not see it's climax in a short period. Many of altcoin is exchange into Ethereum and can be used for transcation. So the demand of Eth will exist, till the Eth use as like this. Now the price of Eth is changed to many factor, Eth will regain his value in a short period.

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Quote from: rathaha10 on September 10, 2019, 03:07:20 PM

People are bashing Ethereum all day long. You must know that a lot of people are still trusting Ethereum just like me. Why would people still make their coin based of Ethereum. This means that they are believing in it.

I guess everyone is bashing Ethereum because of the dramatic decline of the price and the people behind it. But Vitalik step up and says that they are going to up the ante and release Ethereum 2.0 in early 2020. Of course there are projects which developed and using ERC20 but perhaps in due time developers are going to move on the next technology and I could say that this could really hurt Ethereum in the long run. But I wouldn't say that its a do or die scenario for Ethereum, it's just this is how crypto works, if you don't evolved you die, but Ethereum devs are still very active and I think Vitalik is still on top of the situation here.

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People are bashing Ethereum all day long. You must know that a lot of people are still trusting Ethereum just like me. Why would people still make their coin based of Ethereum. This means that they are believing in it.

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Ethereum is one of the altcoins that does have quite a high demand now compared to other altcoins because ethereum has several functions other than as an investment asset, from this fact it can certainly be one of the strengths for ethereum to continue to survive and become one of the major cryptocurrency apart from bitcoin.

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Quote from: NoirSuccubus on September 10, 2019, 05:11:52 AM

There are many factors that have contributed to the downfall of ETH. It has an unlimited suppl as compared to BTC; ETH has a lot of coins right now in the market adding to its decline in value if nothing else. They should’ve limited the supply when they had the chance just like BTC, and they could’ve saved ETH from such harm.

I think that 60% of cryptocurrency market players now believe in Ethereum. This coin showed how to develop even in the Altcoin crisis.

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There are many factors that have contributed to the downfall of ETH. It has an unlimited suppl as compared to BTC; ETH has a lot of coins right now in the market adding to its decline in value if nothing else. They should’ve limited the supply when they had the chance just like BTC, and they could’ve saved ETH from such harm.

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We are indeed in a pretty difficult problem now, but I don't believe that ethereum will die from it.
however, ethereum is still used as the basis for the transactions of new growth altcoins.
time will also determine that ethereum will still be the best.

Ethereum has such potential but the market situation doesn't look good if price falls under the $150. New projects still prefer to use the pre-ready platforms like Ehtereum, Eos but the first mentioned platform has more advantages.

Quote from: terencio on August 16, 2019, 02:48:56 PM

Most investors are now more cautious and they are choosing Bitcoin over ethereum or other cryptos. I don't think its because of IEO but its because of the current market conditions and the way how people invest now in crypto.

Investors prefer to invest in the potential looks good projects but the first preference was always the BTC due to the obvious expectations from the volatile crypto market. IEOs are outdated too, ETH is dumped due to decreasing interest by the crypto investors which accumulates more BTC than buying newborn tokens in my opinion.

After the launch of Ethereum 2.0, everything will change. Ethereum will be different, better, faster, and safer, which will attract more investors. As a result, the price for 1 ETH token should climb very fast. However, most of the crypto experts agree that the maximum that can be expected from ETH in 2020, is 600 dollars.

The popularity of this altcoin will not decrease, and it will stay on the 2nd place.

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For me, I feel etherum is only underrated and is not in a situation of do or die
It is widely accepted and easily usable, so With time, it will grow in value as well

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Ethereum is good but the market hasn't been stable as it was sometime ago. However, I believe ethereum will still rise. Its a matter of time. Everything is gradual.

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The entire altcoin market is down, and that includes ETH too. It's not like it's immune to market pressures.

I don't consider now a do or die time for ETH ... however if the altcoin market does recover and ETH stands still on the sidelines, then I might get concerned. Wait and see how things pan out, right now BTC is hogging too much of the spotlight for any coins to really move.

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Bitcoin is the only coin that I can completely speak for has it is now because this is one that I don’t think has ever had any history of failed technology, Ethereum is still good though, but I am not much feeling the coin that much again because of the way scammers has used the system to generate lots of fraudulent money that is giving the cryptocurrency market a terrible name generally, and that is what I feel that Ethereum needs to be more concerned about right now if they are really to continue to grow, and you can see their value keeps decreasing because people are scared of them not having real use case.

The latest product they came with which is embedded in the Ethereum 2.0 they are releasing is not much of what hold value because reward is not what we are taking of now, but how the scammers can leave.

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Nothing to worry about, eth is still cemented solidly in 2nd and it has the widest mining network that expands to all different types of people unlike the asic bitcoin network. You would be really dumb to sell at the current price.

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Quote from: yohananaomi on August 20, 2019, 10:20:02 AM

There is no doubt about ethereum, despite the difficulties in its growth, but it is very convincing that ethereum will rise again and make a lot of investments and hold it up to this time will receive the blessings. I believe that.

We have the same belief and this belief has a foundation, check out this article
https://cryptotradernews.com/cryptocurrency/hodling-ethereum-2017-vs-2019/

It compared the hodling of 2017 and 2019 and, Ethereum has an issue for scalability but they are now working on resolving it and once resolve it will fuel growth in terms of demand and profit.

People should not give up Ethereum that easy, it's still the second top coin in the market, although the demand it is slowly going down, there's still a huge change for growth and wave of demand.

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Quote from: Bestmanbuka on August 20, 2019, 09:45:30 AM

Ethereum is now slowly moving back to that important resistance level, I strongly believe that it will still rise again to great heights as it is the only cryptocurrency giving BTC a heavy chase. Its price reduction
Is never the death of it. It will surely gather a bullish momentum. Hodl!

TA for such big coin as ETH is not so exact. We have a solid reason at 2017 for price growth - ICO boom. But what we have now or what we can predict as a reason? Hardfork and ETH 2.0 with PoS? I don't sure. Wide application on the quick platform? - It's not an Eth while. I don't see the fundamental reason for restoration, sorry

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There is no doubt about ethereum, despite the difficulties in its growth, but it is very convincing that ethereum will rise again and make a lot of investments and hold it up to this time will receive the blessings. I believe that.

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Ethereum is now slowly moving back to that important resistance level, I strongly believe that it will still rise again to great heights as it is the only cryptocurrency giving BTC a heavy chase. Its price reduction
Is never the death of it. It will surely gather a bullish momentum. Hodl!

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Ethereum used to be the best performing coin after Bitcoin. The bullish price movement of Ethereum in 2017 is largely responsible for many ERC20 tokens fantastic performance that year. Since then Ethereum and most tokens associated with its blockchain have suffered greatly in terms of price. I still hold some Eth and I believe that things will change for this epic scalable coin.

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Most investors are now more cautious and they are choosing Bitcoin over ethereum or other cryptos. I don't think its because of IEO but its because of the current market conditions and the way how people invest now in crypto.

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Quote from: baigreen on August 15, 2019, 04:07:31 AM

I do not think so. Anyway, 70% of projects use ERC-20. Roll Eyes

And this means their success at the IEO is developing the market. The market is stabilizing ETH is growing. I do not think that this caused a fall in the market today. And for sure this does not show the weakness of the ETH.

IEO doesn't even give any impact to the ethereum and it looks like that you are misunderstood about that dude. Most of the exchange sites are raised the funds used their own token and it's too rare to find an IEO which used native coin like ethereum to raise the funds. This time it's not quite different compared with 2017 but this is a big problem for ethereum.
This caused the fall of the demand to the ethereum by investors.

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Quote from: pankowri on August 15, 2019, 03:24:22 AM

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Are you saying that IEO is affecting the price of ETH? how exactly because IEO did nothing but keeps driving more money into crypto space,its been good all around for IEO and its far from been a threat to ETH,you need more patience to understand that ETH is not doing bad at all,lets wait for the next upgrade which will introduce Prove of Stake for ETH.

Yes, I guess that also has nothing to do. Ieo from erc-20 based tokens can actually have a positive effect. After all, price declines occur for most altcoins, not just ethereum. The effect of the decline in BTC prices has an effect on altcoin.

I think all the tokens / coins dropped so this is not the cause of the team not optimally, I think ethereum is still the king of altcoin because until now many giant projects are still using the ERC20 platform.

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Ethereum is just beginning to cause heart failure for some. Its really sad seeing the price of ethereum go down day by day. My question is, what are the developers and team of that project doing cos I know ethereum used to be the king of altcoins but I can't say that now.

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The reason why Ethereum has been so popular was because of their smart contract chain that requires all these ICO project to register through it before they can launch their project, and this really make Ethereum surge very high in price in 2017 when ICO became very popular and so many investors put in their money into the ICO market, but since it has been a hell with so many investors after scammers, most of them has been seriously discouraged about ICO and only focusing in bitcoin right now, so what do you expect of Ethereum, of course it will keep going down because there are not many successful ICO again like that of 2017, it is only IEO now that is still trying to attract investors and even IEO is only safe with Binance, other IEO are still full of scam.

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In these of ICO, ethereum was well sort after because it was majorly used in ICO purchases for projects using the ethereum smart contract. Today IEO has numerous option of using any coin pair which is limiting the must use of ETH for crowdfunding. I hope ETH developers improve on the ecosystem.

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eth will not die, if they have improvements. Obviously everything grows, only the old ones will be removed

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Quote from: pankowri on August 15, 2019, 03:24:22 AM

I have some Eth and Everytime I do check for any update and research about ETH. IEO trend is another threat for ETH and now Eth is going down day by day.

Ethereum hasn’t been all too well as of late. If you’ve perused the pertinent articles on this outlet, we’re sure you know that.

For those unaware, here’s a brief recap. Every since early-2018, Ethereum and its ilk have been dramatically underperforming Bitcoin. In fact, since the top of altcoin mania in 2018, Bitcoin dominance has doubled, moving from 32% to 69%. The performance (or lack thereof) of Ethereum specifically seems to stem from the lack of buying pressure from ICO participants, as projects are moving away from this form of fundraising to avoid regulatory scrutiny.

Ethereum has been doing so poorly that its share of the cryptocurrency market recently collapsed under 8%. In fact, as of the time of Stop and Decrypt’s tweet seen below, dominance for the second largest crypto asset sat at 7.84%, the lowest it has been in some two years.

For the rest of research are here, https://en.ethereumworldnews.com/do-or-die-moment-for-ethereum-price-eth-down-to-206/amp/

I beg to disagreed that Ethereum will going to die just because the IEO is a threat for it, of course that's not true!
If you are going to have a research about ethereum it has been using for a new projects several years now with the erc20 wallet.
and what would you expect in trading market the price will always increase? come on! where is your brain? this is trading business industry where there are only two things most often happened only which is increasing and decreasing the price of the altcoins.

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I also to see and paid attention to the development of Eth, which has been declining in recent weeks. but that is not the end of eth, because after all eth really has a role in the development of crypto projects apart from Bitcoin. so just wait, price will get better soon.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on August 15, 2019, 05:20:39 PM

I dont think it is much of a threat. More like a competition and it is good for we could see more cheaper transaction fees if ever.
Also, it is better to always have an option.

For me though, I still use ETH as my 2nd option after bitcoin specially when bitcoin price is soaring and so is the transaction fees.
But that is usage, we need investors to nourish ETH again.

There's a need of more investors to bring their trust back in order to lift this coin back at track, we can't assume that quick that because of falling value the project will die right after, there's a lots of time that many people creates same impression with this coin but still it's continue to move forward.

It's a matter of time before we will witness another bounce and build trust again to it's supporters to engage and invest back to this chain.

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Ethereum hasn’t been all too well as of late.

ethereum hasn't been well for a very long time but people haven't been noticing it because they were pumping it for some time and it was profitable for them in that period. but now that pumps have stopped for about 1.5 years, people are starting to see the issues.

Firstly, I want to clarify that the causes of the downtrend which the Ethereum market experienced were not the overhype of IEOs or ICOs but the part of Ethereum not too well and the situation that happened lately (On Thursday 01/08 till 12/08 Monday ) are so glaring. However, the situation seems under control now and I believe it was due to the upgrade which was stated on the team roadmap.

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Quote from: Dakijon on August 15, 2019, 09:34:38 PM

Quote from: mrvuit on August 15, 2019, 10:32:55 AM

I'm a big fan of Ethereum, I'm really sad to look at its price.
I am looking forward to Ethereum 2.0, Ethereum 2.0 will improve speed and minimize mining costs, I hope it will be a leap.

Don't worry my friend keep it on your wallet, don't sell it. you know price will speculatif, some trader are sell it to getting money for holiday and will buy it after that time.

If he has so much ethereum, he can sell it to make a profit in every time the price is up, but I don't think he can do that if he only has a small amount of ethereum especially if he cannot analyze with the right. It is better to keep the ethereum in our wallet and don't sell if the price does not increase so high because we want to make a big profit from ethereum. But the decision will be on him, and we could only hope that he can make a profit like other people while we are still waiting for the high price.

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Quote from: alt-fire on August 15, 2019, 05:00:01 PM

I heared a lot of time that Ethereum is dead but always it was a good time to bought some ETH. It will never die because Ethereum is mother of another tokens.

What you say is "ethereum is the mother of another token". I am very very opinion of you.
and I am not convinced that ethereum will die but it will move to be more powerful and be able to defend itself to be one of the best coins.

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Quote from: thiscomm on August 15, 2019, 10:20:03 AM

why is IEO a barrier to developing eth ...? and why doesn't Eth just follow the trend to switch from ICO to IEO.? wouldn't that have benefited Eth. with Eth switching from their ICO program to an IEO program I think it can help Eth to be able to return their prices to what they were before.

Ethereum is not in the position to decide whether a project would run it sale through an ICO or IEO program, that is the decision of project's team to decide and they are very likely to follow the trend and less streinous process of IEO.

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Quote from: mrvuit on August 15, 2019, 10:32:55 AM

I'm a big fan of Ethereum, I'm really sad to look at its price.
I am looking forward to Ethereum 2.0, Ethereum 2.0 will improve speed and minimize mining costs, I hope it will be a leap.

Don't worry my friend keep it on your wallet, don't sell it. you know price will speculatif, some trader are sell it to getting money for holiday and will buy it after that time.

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Are you saying that IEO is affecting the price of ETH? how exactly because IEO did nothing but keeps driving more money into crypto space,its been good all around for IEO and its far from been a threat to ETH,you need more patience to understand that ETH is not doing bad at all,lets wait for the next upgrade which will introduce Prove of Stake for ETH.

Yes, I guess that also has nothing to do. Ieo from erc-20 based tokens can actually have a positive effect. After all, price declines occur for most altcoins, not just ethereum. The effect of the decline in BTC prices has an effect on altcoin.

IEO has nothing to do with falling ETH prices because indeed the market is currently experiencing a decline including the price of Bitcoin. of course the effect of falling BTC prices will also affect prices on Altcoin prices and I often see that happening. I'm not sure that IEO is making the ETH price fall and making the ETH getting worse because this is purely from the effect of the decline in the price of Bitcoin.

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Quote from: Novatech8 on August 15, 2019, 10:29:59 AM

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Are you saying that IEO is affecting the price of ETH? how exactly because IEO did nothing but keeps driving more money into crypto space,its been good all around for IEO and its far from been a threat to ETH,you need more patience to understand that ETH is not doing bad at all,lets wait for the next upgrade which will introduce Prove of Stake for ETH.

Yes, I guess that also has nothing to do. Ieo from erc-20 based tokens can actually have a positive effect. After all, price declines occur for most altcoins, not just ethereum. The effect of the decline in BTC prices has an effect on altcoin.

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I dont think it is much of a threat. More like a competition and it is good for we could see more cheaper transaction fees if ever.
Also, it is better to always have an option.

For me though, I still use ETH as my 2nd option after bitcoin specially when bitcoin price is soaring and so is the transaction fees.
But that is usage, we need investors to nourish ETH again.

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I heared a lot of time that Ethereum is dead but always it was a good time to bought some ETH. It will never die because Ethereum is mother of another tokens.

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The truth is the dip affecting etherum can not be described nor emphasized to a factor
It is the most employed altcoin after bitcoin
It also employs a lot of smart contract tokens; making decentralization easy for all;

The prices will soon reflect based on the adoption; we just have to wait for it

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I do not know why you are singling out ethereum market has been like this for all alts, just have a look at xrp, xlm, neo, ada, icx, nano plus all other quality coins all are struggling i know it is a hard time for alt holders i personally have eth and many other holdings but we have to be mature and support and hold our coins patiently for maximum profits later.

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I think that Ethereum will maintain its humiliating position until they start introducing any innovations. Until that time, we will see a very weak cryptocurrency with the community that is disappointed in this coin and can not support it.

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Quote from: Duzter on August 15, 2019, 10:14:59 AM

Unlimited supply is the big drawback that ethereum has

People always say this but it simply isn't true. The supply growth goes towards zero asymptotically and will because of that eventually become deflationary. It functionally has a supply limit, just not a preprogrammed scalar cap value. These are basic things people should know before they invest.

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Ethereum achieved ATH price only because people bought ETH to participate in ICOs. But these ICOs then sold every raised ETHs.
Same will happen to BNB - people now buying BNB to participate on Binance IEOs, but soon projects will sell their BNBs from token sale.

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Many projects continue to use the Ethereum blockchain. So I think that to talk about the death of Ethereum is impractical. Now the whole market is in a fall, but after a while it will recover and stabilize.

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I don't know what plans are in place for Ethereum. The rate at which it goes down when market is red is really scary. Yet it is very slow when it starts rising up. I'm having more bitcoin now than Eth because I do not believe it will do well again

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Quote from: electronicash on August 15, 2019, 10:25:49 AM

move away from eth is not an option? Grin

times changing. i do have. i do have doubts whether this is going to go up too. there is just better platforms today like TRON where more developers prefer. investors must have the dilemma whether to move their investment or stick. i suspect those ERC token developers doesn't even own ETH right now. if they aren't listed on binance, they'd be moving to BEP.

As I mentioned that IEO is a threat for destroy ETH for it's position and it will be happened today or tomorrow though already stated.

However, your point out is absolutely good to move with another platform and many of us already did it. Now a days ICOs projects can't get hyped like before and IEO is getting enough investor. So people already got another platform to play. Cheesy

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on August 15, 2019, 05:05:49 AM

The cause of Ethereum downfall was simply as a result of Ethereum been overhyped via ICOs. Initially Ethereum didn't deserve the last all time high (via price value) it did achieve doing the late 2017 bull market, so did so many other Altcoin. The price value of the token weren't a direct representation of the development achievement of these projects instead it was a mere hype and that's why they're now suffering in regards to decline in price, as the hype has died down. The number of investors, investing in random coins/tokens and hope for a 10x or even more has reduced drastically instead they now invest in project with not just a working product or realistic Ideas but a project with security. That's why bitcoin is the most beneficiary.

Ethereum as a blockchain still has value as it's utility purpose are numerous to mention although the native token (ETHER) isn't a perfect investment choices since the gaurantee of profits on your investment isn't assured like investing in bitcoin. Another problem affecting the price of Ethereum is high number of whales dumping their holding on the market and most of these whale are startups that carried out ICO and raised thousands of Ethereum in the process.

Exactly,I explained the situation by saying threat for ETH. ICOs system dramatically tried to finish ETH (anyone can disagree with it but it's true), fake projects are also responsible for this.

However, ETH has its value for utility and it has still a good position but it's future will not very bright if they fail to keep their word which they said as development for the next four years

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I still believe that ETH will stand still strong as it's still leading platform for many industrial dApps.
For the short term, I see ETH will again touch $140.

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Quote from: saba1256 on August 15, 2019, 01:29:14 PM

As the I have also observed that ETH price is not growing as compare to year 2017 and 2018, i think the more competitor of ETH in market that's why investor not more investing in ETH.

I also think like this, investors prefer other projects and also for crowdfunding, eth it doesn't sell well because crowdfunding now is not like in 2017/2018 which always focuses on ethereum now too many other alternative crypto for crowdfunding, and also many crowdfunding projects experience failed even that scam also had an impact on ethereum.

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Ethereum for some reasons not doing good at all these days for unknown reasons. Whales are trying to b keep the price down. Let's see how long they keep it like this.

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Quote from: mrvuit on August 15, 2019, 10:32:55 AM

I'm a big fan of Ethereum, I'm really sad to look at its price.
I am looking forward to Ethereum 2.0, Ethereum 2.0 will improve speed and minimize mining costs, I hope it will be a leap.

ETH I, too, like the most of all Altcoins. I think that the price for it is now very low and should grow over time.

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As the I have also observed that ETH price is not growing as compare to year 2017 and 2018, i think the more competitor of ETH in market that's why investor not more investing in ETH.

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Quote from: mrvuit on August 15, 2019, 10:32:55 AM

I'm a big fan of Ethereum, I'm really sad to look at its price.
I am looking forward to Ethereum 2.0, Ethereum 2.0 will improve speed and minimize mining costs, I hope it will be a leap.

ethereum will changes its algorithma.no more mining and only staking.much crypto community wait this moment happen.the main problem in ethereum blockchain was network scalabilyt , its normal if compared with contract that created in etherum platform.so every second much transaction happen.

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I'm a big fan of Ethereum, I'm really sad to look at its price.
I am looking forward to Ethereum 2.0, Ethereum 2.0 will improve speed and minimize mining costs, I hope it will be a leap.

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Quote from: pankowri on August 15, 2019, 03:24:22 AM

I have some Eth and Everytime I do check for any update and research about ETH. IEO trend is another threat for ETH and now Eth is going down day by day.

Ethereum hasn’t been all too well as of late. If you’ve perused the pertinent articles on this outlet, we’re sure you know that.

For those unaware, here’s a brief recap. Every since early-2018, Ethereum and its ilk have been dramatically underperforming Bitcoin. In fact, since the top of altcoin mania in 2018, Bitcoin dominance has doubled, moving from 32% to 69%. The performance (or lack thereof) of Ethereum specifically seems to stem from the lack of buying pressure from ICO participants, as projects are moving away from this form of fundraising to avoid regulatory scrutiny.

Ethereum has been doing so poorly that its share of the cryptocurrency market recently collapsed under 8%. In fact, as of the time of Stop and Decrypt’s tweet seen below, dominance for the second largest crypto asset sat at 7.84%, the lowest it has been in some two years.

For the rest of research are here, https://en.ethereumworldnews.com/do-or-die-moment-for-ethereum-price-eth-down-to-206/amp/

Are you saying that IEO is affecting the price of ETH? how exactly because IEO did nothing but keeps driving more money into crypto space,its been good all around for IEO and its far from been a threat to ETH,you need more patience to understand that ETH is not doing bad at all,lets wait for the next upgrade which will introduce Prove of Stake for ETH.

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move away from eth is not an option? Grin

times changing. i do have. i do have doubts whether this is going to go up too. there is just better platforms today like TRON where more developers prefer. investors must have the dilemma whether to move their investment or stick. i suspect those ERC token developers doesn't even own ETH right now. if they aren't listed on binance, they'd be moving to BEP.

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why is IEO a barrier to developing eth ...? and why doesn't Eth just follow the trend to switch from ICO to IEO.? wouldn't that have benefited Eth. with Eth switching from their ICO program to an IEO program I think it can help Eth to be able to return their prices to what they were before.

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Unlimited supply is the big drawback that ethereum has got, though it serve as base for more development on the Cryptocurrency network there isn't no perfect planning. This isn't a do or die for ethereum but the right moment to make perfect decision to keep the market progressive as the past. It stands high next to bitcoin in terms of dominance, but compared to its peak dominance level now it is struggling to keep up the dominance strong.

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I ma a huge fan of ethereum and it is my main hold when it comes to Altcoins but I would be the first to admit that I don't like the trend it seems to be setting for itself, whenever there is a small bearish trend, ethereum would dip far and whenever the market is bullish, it wouldn't even moon much, this is very bad and unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have an end in sight.

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Ethereum will be back to the higher price, and you don't have to worry and say anything because if the market rise, the ethereum price will follow to increase. As one of the potential altcoins, ethereum will bring back it's glory to the high price like before, and although the price now is down deeper, I am sure that it will be back soon. Ethereum will launch version 2.0, and I think many people are curious about that and they are waiting and hope that it will help the price to grow again.

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Ethereum price these days is really disheartening. The market is really doing a bad one for holders of ethereum and this will cause many weak hands to sell off their bags. Well, one thing I believe is that every thing will be set to normal soon enough cos the market volatility won't remain the same

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Nobody knows for sure why ETH price dropped drastically, market emotions actually contributed to this. For IEOs, investors mainly use exchange tokens like BNB for Binance, OKB for OKEX, KCS for Kucoin for IEO purchase. Well that's not supposed to cause price drop for ETH. I think development updates, roadmap updates, more dapps using ETH can revive ETH's value. Everything was based on hype initially, now we are seeing the clear picture. Let's see what the ETH 2.0 upgrade will do, I'm still a strong believer of ETH.

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Quote from: baigreen on August 15, 2019, 04:07:31 AM

I do not think so. Anyway, 70% of projects use ERC-20. Roll Eyes

And this means their success at the IEO is developing the market. The market is stabilizing ETH is growing. I do not think that this caused a fall in the market today. And for sure this does not show the weakness of the ETH.

I heard about the etherium version 2.0 will come. for me, this is the only chance to get ETH to ride the price track again.
For now let's just hope that the price will not sink to under $100 again because if it goes that low, the chance to get it high again is almost impossible because we need to know that ETH is not BTC if it goes down it will not affect the BTC price.

So we need to see the 2nd version of etherium will come out soon. because most people say, this is the only way to save ETH from falling down.

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The best point buttressed in your post is that many ICOs used ETH as major payment method during the era of ICO and now that crypto enthusiasts have drifted to IEO, mainly using the native exchange coin/token to buy in, ETH dominance and price dropped. This is so true, I've observed that. Talking about the fate of ETH, I still believe with major developments that will be rolled out in future, everything should be well with ETH again. The price drop yesterday and today is really awful, ETH holders like myself keep wondering why the sharp price dip. Ethereum developers need to step up their game, we've not really seen any remarkable development for sometime and it's not telling well on ETH.

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Ethereum is backed by tons of projects that are using its blockchain. So there is no way such a massive coin is going to die off, but you are right, they must improve the situation because 170 USD per ETH is just tragic.

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Quote from: baigreen on August 15, 2019, 04:07:31 AM

I do not think so. Anyway, 70% of projects use ERC-20. Roll Eyes

And this means their success at the IEO is developing the market. The market is stabilizing ETH is growing. I do not think that this caused a fall in the market today. And for sure this does not show the weakness of the ETH.

the main point/reason is that everyone has been migrating away from ethereum platform as a whole.
at some point in early days, there was only ETH and one or two other platforms and ETH was being advertised so everyone only know about that. but that hype meant creation of a lot of other similar platforms that have been doing a much better job hosting all these projects and smart contract tokens. and that has led to the mass migration hence ETH's drop.

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The cause of Ethereum downfall was simply as a result of Ethereum been overhyped via ICOs. Initially Ethereum didn't deserve the last all time high (via price value) it did achieve doing the late 2017 bull market, so did so many other Altcoin. The price value of the token weren't a direct representation of the development achievement of these projects instead it was a mere hype and that's why they're now suffering in regards to decline in price, as the hype has died down. The number of investors, investing in random coins/tokens and hope for a 10x or even more has reduced drastically instead they now invest in project with not just a working product or realistic Ideas but a project with security. That's why bitcoin is the most beneficiary.

Ethereum as a blockchain still has value as it's utility purpose are numerous to mention although the native token (ETHER) isn't a perfect investment choices since the gaurantee of profits on your investment isn't assured like investing in bitcoin. Another problem affecting the price of Ethereum is high number of whales dumping their holding on the market and most of these whale are startups that carried out ICO and raised thousands of Ethereum in the process.

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Quote from: pankowri on August 15, 2019, 03:24:22 AM

I have some Eth and Everytime I do check for any update and research about ETH. IEO trend is another threat for ETH and now Eth is going down day by day.

Ethereum hasn’t been all too well as of late. If you’ve perused the pertinent articles on this outlet, we’re sure you know that.

For those unaware, here’s a brief recap. Every since early-2018, Ethereum and its ilk have been dramatically underperforming Bitcoin. In fact, since the top of altcoin mania in 2018, Bitcoin dominance has doubled, moving from 32% to 69%. The performance (or lack thereof) of Ethereum specifically seems to stem from the lack of buying pressure from ICO participants, as projects are moving away from this form of fundraising to avoid regulatory scrutiny.

Ethereum has been doing so poorly that its share of the cryptocurrency market recently collapsed under 8%. In fact, as of the time of Stop and Decrypt’s tweet seen below, dominance for the second largest crypto asset sat at 7.84%, the lowest it has been in some two years.

For the rest of research are here, https://en.ethereumworldnews.com/do-or-die-moment-for-ethereum-price-eth-down-to-206/amp/

There are investors that are backing bitcoin so much that it is one of the highest grower in a bull market and one of the low loser in the bear market.
On the contrary, Etherum has failed to get the attention of the investors and hasn't been able to prove its dynamics when it's suffering from network congestions.

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Quote from: pankowri on August 15, 2019, 03:24:22 AM

I have some Eth and Everytime I do check for any update and research about ETH. IEO trend is another threat for ETH and now Eth is going down day by day.

Ethereum hasn’t been all too well as of late. If you’ve perused the pertinent articles on this outlet, we’re sure you know that.

For those unaware, here’s a brief recap. Every since early-2018, Ethereum and its ilk have been dramatically underperforming Bitcoin. In fact, since the top of altcoin mania in 2018, Bitcoin dominance has doubled, moving from 32% to 69%. The performance (or lack thereof) of Ethereum specifically seems to stem from the lack of buying pressure from ICO participants, as projects are moving away from this form of fundraising to avoid regulatory scrutiny.

Ethereum has been doing so poorly that its share of the cryptocurrency market recently collapsed under 8%. In fact, as of the time of Stop and Decrypt’s tweet seen below, dominance for the second largest crypto asset sat at 7.84%, the lowest it has been in some two years.

For the rest of research are here, https://en.ethereumworldnews.com/do-or-die-moment-for-ethereum-price-eth-down-to-206/amp/

in the last few days, a lot of investors focused on bitcoin only my friend
so, not only ethereum, but a lot of alts loosing its value,,
but, personally i still believe on ethereum rather than the other alts Wink

and maybe this is the right time to buy more eth

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Quote from: baigreen on August 15, 2019, 04:07:31 AM

I do not think so. Anyway, 70% of projects use ERC-20. Roll Eyes

And this means their success at the IEO is developing the market. The market is stabilizing ETH is growing. I do not think that this caused a fall in the market today. And for sure this does not show the weakness of the ETH.

I strongly opposed and again need to say that IEO is a big threat for ETH. No matter how many projects are using ERC20, you know it can be shifted with others like Gochain or TRON.

Do some research and then compare ETH's current value with it's previous value then you will find something strange 😉😁
Because almost 90% dump now and still falling. Its position is good but it can be broken anytime.

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Quote from: Herbert2020 on August 15, 2019, 03:36:26 AM

Quote from: pankowri on August 15, 2019, 03:24:22 AM

IEO trend is another threat for ETH and now Eth is going down day by day.

IEO is only one tiny threat to ETH, the ETH design itself and the bad decisions that the developer has made over the past couple of years have been the biggest threats. decisions such as premining it, having unlimited supply, not having immutability by rolling back a lot of blocks to reverse transactions, lots of bugs and exploits, lack of scaling, high fees,...

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Ethereum hasn’t been all too well as of late.

ethereum hasn't been well for a very long time but people haven't been noticing it because they were pumping it for some time and it was profitable for them in that period. but now that pumps have stopped for about 1.5 years, people are starting to see the issues.

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Ethereum has been doing so poorly that its share of the cryptocurrency market recently collapsed under 8%. In fact, as of the time of Stop and Decrypt’s tweet seen below, dominance for the second largest crypto asset sat at 7.84%, the lowest it has been in some two years.

dominance doesn't matter at all because it is based on supply and ETH has 72 million coins premined in centralized wallets.
the only thing that matters is the fact that ETH has gone down consistantly for the past 1.5 years from 0.16BTC to 0.017BTC which is 90% drop! and it is still falling.

Your points are almost same as my thinking. Really IEO is a big threat for ETH now a days and it is still falling down. Who knows it will pump again like 2017 Grin

By the way, the unlimited supply is the another reason which you pointed out.

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I do not think so. Anyway, 70% of projects use ERC-20. Roll Eyes

And this means their success at the IEO is developing the market. The market is stabilizing ETH is growing. I do not think that this caused a fall in the market today. And for sure this does not show the weakness of the ETH.

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Quote from: pankowri on August 15, 2019, 03:24:22 AM

IEO trend is another threat for ETH and now Eth is going down day by day.

IEO is only one tiny threat to ETH, the ETH design itself and the bad decisions that the developer has made over the past couple of years have been the biggest threats. decisions such as premining it, having unlimited supply, not having immutability by rolling back a lot of blocks to reverse transactions, lots of bugs and exploits, lack of scaling, high fees,...

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Ethereum hasn’t been all too well as of late.

ethereum hasn't been well for a very long time but people haven't been noticing it because they were pumping it for some time and it was profitable for them in that period. but now that pumps have stopped for about 1.5 years, people are starting to see the issues.

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Ethereum has been doing so poorly that its share of the cryptocurrency market recently collapsed under 8%. In fact, as of the time of Stop and Decrypt’s tweet seen below, dominance for the second largest crypto asset sat at 7.84%, the lowest it has been in some two years.

dominance doesn't matter at all because it is based on supply and ETH has 72 million coins premined in centralized wallets.
the only thing that matters is the fact that ETH has gone down consistantly for the past 1.5 years from 0.16BTC to 0.017BTC which is 90% drop! and it is still falling.

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I have some Eth and Everytime I do check for any update and research about ETH. IEO trend is another threat for ETH and now Eth is going down day by day.

Ethereum hasn’t been all too well as of late. If you’ve perused the pertinent articles on this outlet, we’re sure you know that.

For those unaware, here’s a brief recap. Every since early-2018, Ethereum and its ilk have been dramatically underperforming Bitcoin. In fact, since the top of altcoin mania in 2018, Bitcoin dominance has doubled, moving from 32% to 69%. The performance (or lack thereof) of Ethereum specifically seems to stem from the lack of buying pressure from ICO participants, as projects are moving away from this form of fundraising to avoid regulatory scrutiny.

Ethereum has been doing so poorly that its share of the cryptocurrency market recently collapsed under 8%. In fact, as of the time of Stop and Decrypt’s tweet seen below, dominance for the second largest crypto asset sat at 7.84%, the lowest it has been in some two years.

For the rest of research are here, https://en.ethereumworldnews.com/do-or-die-moment-for-ethereum-price-eth-down-to-206/amp/

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