Topic: Do the best out of what you can control (Read 390 times)

This forum and social networks are two different things, some members in this forum has social media account but they hardly post on them. But you can find them posting all day here. People put in their best to what favours and suits them.

Growing an account wouldn't work if you didn't put your best into it, same as the forum and social networks. Not disputing that fact.

What displeases me about social networks is how so many users portray fake lives, scam identities, posting and upload unnecessary pictures that won't add to or contribute to other people's well-being. But here, is not the same. Posts made here are not for views and likes, but to spread crypto awareness to others. Merits are just for a bonus of information shared

I also apply what you said when I started joining this forum. When we don't know anything about bitcoin or about cryptocurrencies we recommend reading some articles to add insight so it will be easy to get involved in every discussion.

Over time I got used to doing it, reading and understanding what was being discussed and then providing feedback and input. Not only limited to bitcoin knowledge, but more broadly in all fields.

Even now when I want to reply to a comment or a serious topic I have to read various articles to find information and then start answering, so that no comments are said to be spam or irrelevant to the post.

That is what majority of the newcomers do not understand, if they actually want to rank up what they need to do is to sit back and perus through the forum for sometime. Know the particular boards they will be able to engage in conversations and the ones where merit can locate them. When I was new in this forum I hardly join some conversations because I don't know much about bitcoin but after I have studied for a while there is virtually no conversation I cannot join in the forum.

No one gives what they don't have. You must possess some quality before you can give out quality.

I think what OP was trying to say was about being free to post and effort to make good content though bitcointalk is a bit different from social media, he should have made comparisons with other popular forums instead.
The Idea of everyone coming to the forum is not the same for everyone, I have seen Newbies make attempts to questions excellently that even the Legendary and Hero members cannot do because an account is a new one doesn't mean the person behind the account is a new person. Just be yourself, ask and reply to questions you know you can boldly make an effort with and keep learning, isn't what the forum is all about?  SHALOM

Everything is based on consistency and how you are able to manage what you have. Taking a view out if the forum, you have a social media accounts just like Twitter. For you to grow your account, you have to keep posting and making friends. Good content will attract people to see need of reading your tweet no matter the time frame. Through this you will continue having followers that like your contents and will not want to miss any of your latest tweet at all. Smart effort brings nice results with consistency.

What's this topic for? no one force you to post, no one force you to make a high quality post and no one force you to get merit. You can learn and get an information on this forum without contributing anything, just read everyone post and try to learn few thing. I'd say it's better for people just to shut up their mouth rather than post a non sense stuff or would lead a newbie to wrong information.

Don't compare social media with Forums, I think social media is a place to get rid of boredom and full of falsehood. While the Forum is a place to learn and Forum users are very friendly to users who have limited knowledge. The seniors always provide education that can give you a lot of knowledge, they are also very friendly in correcting minor mistakes made by the Juniors.
Don't think too much about Merit, merit will come when your posts are considered worthy. Keep learning to be a useful user in the forum, hopefully you will always be consistent and continue to learn in the future.

only on social media, people are able to make posts or content every day, sometimes for those who are very active, it is very easy for those who are very active to create some content in a day. it depends on how we like and enjoy doing it. like in this forum, people who may have been on this forum for a long time are comfortable and able to consistently make quality posts every day, and the posts made are also of good quality and get some benefits. do the best starting from the account we have is the thing to do.
People may continue to be active when they join a signature campaign, but will stop when they are no longer involved with any campaign.
But I started to continue to be active even though there was no campaign that I supported, because it was important to increase the number of posts and continue to be active in every forum discussion.

Merits will only be important if you are planning to join signature campaigns, but if you think you are not yet capable of earning merits, then it’s never the end of your journey in crypto. There are always big chances for learning and gaining skills, and you just have to learn them with good understanding and good comprehension so that you can definitely use them in the future. And when you become pro in the long run, eventually earning merits is not a problem anymore as you can get it anytime from your useful and quality posts.

When you are talking about a forum, it is much more than just social media, the difference between a forum and social media is. 1 the content of a forum is research base and traceable which is why most forum posts can't the source of the information like references and whatever.

But a social media post may not have reference and the reader will not take it seriously to verify the origin of the information shared.

Newbies are most likely less knowledgeable and have less chances to get merits from other members so it should not be their priority first. Instead, acquire knowledge from all resources so they can maximize learning and eventually, skills will develop in time after making a lot of various experiences. When everything is good about them, that’s the time they can attract merits from others unexpectedly and effortlessly.

Will you agree with that in the so-called web2 you don't necessarily need to know what you are doing to make waves on the social media all they are interested more is the traffic and content no matter how it's been presented. It's more easier to excel in the general social media life style once you have the audience.

Perhaps in the forum you need to have good knowledge about a subject matter even if not in-depth but at least enough information to hold a good conversation based on a given thread. The forum is a place where knowledge, patience and discipline is impacted on users unconsciously something you can't get in the web

I mean there is nothing wrong if you use this forum like Reddit, which is another social media by the way.

You're only required to follow the rules then you can do whatever the hell you want in here. Join discussion, learn something, read around, hangout with other people, etc. There is even entertainment in learning if you would ask me. It's always fun to learn something new once in a while especially after your usual 8-5.

Another social media really? if you follow up the forum this way with you thinking it is just like another social media like facebook, twitter etc you will be here, can be doing well in deceiving people with your content that you know something but will not really gain or learn anything new. I joined the forum to learn more about bitcoins, not because I wanted to join another social media. Real knowledge is shared here, there is no entertainment.

You just make constructive posts and that's it. But in order for one to make constructive posts, he/she should at least know a little of what he/she is writing about. That's the thing that needs a little effort. You do a certain amount of research. Posting is almost effortless if you know what you are talking about. The merit may follow or not but at the least the possibility that your post might get one is higher.

You've failed in your analytic comparison. ^{no two ways about it}
The social media isn't the best instance; it doesn't commensurate exactly to your appraisal. Bitcointalk forum remains what it is, nothing more.

About the "posting regularly to get merited stuff" : that's actually true, -- true that if you post regularly, it enhances your chances of getting merited, right? If I'm being very realistic here, what kinda post are you talking about?? That's exactly what determines whether or not a user gets merited. I could decide to make some bunch of crappy, garbage post all-day,(I'm posting right?)? But who the hell is gonna merit shit-post? No one.

All you need to do is: take alot of time and effort --yeah, it's gonna need some more effort as you've(anybody) not gotten used to the process (the process of THINKING, not making post, everyone knows how to post but, the reverse is the case to the latter), -- then just keep being realistic and make some more, optimistic critics, you'll get what you deserve cus by then, alot will realize that you're giving -- not just what you have  but, WHAT THEY WANT.
You'll need to pay me for this 😌😌

Sandra 💇

Sure many users want privacy on the forum and just want to be in the same manner without even disclosing themselves which we have seen on many instances but we can't compare it to the social network sites that have entirely different working because you are making connections and sharing entertainment stuff but this as a open discussion forum is to spread knowledge and make conversations about new updates and share their ideas on the same matter.

I also don't see the real connection between social network and this forum because one is for entertainment source mainly while the forum is to spend quality time improving your skills and knowledge.

When we came here for the first time in the forum some of us came here without any knowledge about the forum rules anything, and all we must do or what we are doing is that using search engine and ask question in order to know more about then after the forum rules then proceed to the other discussions about bitcoins and other related crypto currencies.

We can manage and maintain our activities on social media platforms, but not in this fantastic forum. Activity in this forum counts as 14 for two weeks, so if you post that much, you will only get 14 activity in two weeks. Merits are rewards for your hard work, and you never know how much you will get in a specific post you made; sometimes we expect merits in some posts and they don't come, while you get merit in some posts you never expected, that's how it works. However, if you are serious and active in the forum, you will gain merit if you post quality and useful content.

As a newbie in the forum learning is very important, it should come first,because apart from this forum is expected we learn something new every day. Take your time to read other peoples post and question also the replies. Make research on your own and ask any question, think of seeing yourself in college learning without a classroom,your teachers are the forum members. Merits and ranking up comes last,you must give out knowledge to earn your merits. Learning how to post quality post is not exempted because this shows your understanding on the topic.
Reading the rules an regulations of the forum is the most important, so you can contain not being banned in the forum.

The start of this paragraph summarises it all. Having something within your domain of realisable goals is the first step to its achievement. All the forces and elements to its success are often available and when coordinated right, you'll have your goal right there.

Some one might think they aren't aiming higher enough but I can tell you this, little steps are what counts to kilometres. Little goals always brings you closer to a greater one and most of all, it serves as a source of encouragement. Don't aim too high and end up procrastinating, having failed plans and goals.

Go for that which you are 98% sure of its realisation given the variables available to you.

Well, I really don't think merit and forum ranked has any significant
To your development in this platform, the most important thing is to focus on why you're here, for the past few days in this platform, I've learnt so much from newbies comments and contribution. So I honestly believe that the focus shouldn't be all on merit and ranked members, Rather stay focus and determine to learn at least a thing, every single day, time and minutes you spent here, that will be more justifiable.

Doing what is right as with doing things under your control is just a simple application of modesty in whatever thing we do, let's be conscious that the best is always required frok us, others may be doing it wrong but we must not get involved with the crowth and started the follow suit, rightly application of things is good enough because with tine it willl recompense us with the same good being done in another form, it's also good to desire for growth but it comes natural, but the constituents to it are the good deeds under our control that we've done in the past all haplens as the result to the growth experienced, if you want merits keep the good works, it will flow with time.

It is natural for humans to want to force growth in anywhere they find themselves, and this is not limited to the forum. Once again it is perfectly normal. For newbies who are focus so much of their time and energy on getting merits by all means possible, I want to say to you RELAX. Getting merits is the price of sharing knowledge. So consider putting great information that is helpful to other users. In addition, focusing on what you can control include making quality posts, keeping to the forum rules and being patient.

One should never think that posting here demands the best knowledge so that your topic will be very useful and relevant to other members. That’s not how the forum looks like, and even if you are a newbie you can still create a post like an inquiry or asking important advices for your own growth in the forum, as well as with other newbies. As long as being sincere and genuine is there, everyone will love to support and help the newbies in the forum.

I won't advice you to see the forum as another social media, yes see social media freaks do all they can to build their views and their accounts this isn't a bad vision to have but they only give content they get more following by just giving content and this is how the get earning.

As a newbie you are probably a novice and if you want to only be giving content at a time you may make embarrassing situations for your self as a newbie you don't only give content, you assimilate other peoples content and experience and unlike the content creators that are obsessed and impatient you need to be the opposite.

Well your opinion is good but the way web2 works it's almost the same everywhere. They is no huge difference between this forum and a social media because social medias like twitter have special interest boards which is what a forum means in the networking terms. And if a user don't post or answer a question their account won't be visible in on the board or forums. Web2 is Web2 no difference. Reddit has upvotes and karma, webhostingtalk has likes, namepros has ranks etc. Unlike Web1, Web 2 allow users to post and share information on the internet which is how every other sites works including this forum and social media. They is no much difference just the Interface and how people utilize the niche they want. So if a person have an interest of ranking on any site including this forum they must be consistent to get visible and impressions in form of likes or merits. We are all here to learn and to learn you must acknowledge what you have learnt by creating threads to help build more knowledge into the subconscious. Sugar-coating the forum for newbies will end up having a forum where no much information will be shared when many of us stop using the forum due to businesses or other things. I think being consistent and learning truly is a good advise for the newbies and everyone cheers.

Improving in the aspect of quality post in the forum will really help you to rank up well because that is the shortcut to rank easy to become member or senior member in the forum. continue study everything about cryptocurrency in the internet will also help you to control yourself in a way you will start making quality post that will favour you to rank up not to follow a wrong way in the forum.

I appreciate your thoughts OP but I agree with @lovemayfamilis that if you compare this forum to social media then it's not an apples-to-apples comparison, this forum is simpler but more valuable than social media.

I still remember the saying that on social media there are a lot of fakes, you can even look smart in your posts even if you don't, if in this forum we can see for ourselves the comparison and there is minimal falsehood, you can't even make technical posts if you don't master it or gambling posts if you don't like it.

The forum supports freedom and it won't be like a dictatorship regime to control everything super strictly. It will never happen but the spam endemic due to 2017 bull run and massive spam from bounty hunters caused considerable changes:

• Merit system and rank requirements
• Enhanced merit system (by demoting Jr. Members that did not earn a single merit to Newbies

So far, it works effectively enough.

It should not be like you suggested

• People have different available time in different days or weeks so they can be very actively or inactively at different periods
• How many posts they make also depends on whether they see interesting topics to discuss

A super genius member can make one post per year but it still makes sense.

Why should their forum rank or the number of earned merits be important to new members?
If I were you, I wouldn't bother with it, but if I were a new member of this forum, my goal would be to learn something new, learn from older and more experienced members, make new friends, become part of the forum community etc.
Over time, as you learn more about crypto, you will be able to share much more on the forum and help others.
Everything else, like forum rank or merits, will come naturally and without too much effort.

I would never compare a forum to social networks. Posting pictures is one of the dumbest things to do. Waiting for likes is the same. A lot of people on the forum want privacy, don't they? What connects the forum with social networks?
Just come here with an open mind. If you see a useful and good post, give it merit. If you know the answer to the question, share your vision.
In the case of the OP, think about what you now have to say. Would it be really bright, or does it look like pouring water from a full bucket into an empty one?

Making a post is effectively a factor of how much you've learnt and have to offer in discussions. If a user simply picked a random topic they have no interest in or knowledge in, and chose to make a thread on that by just simply doing a bit of research, it could come off as forced; For one, it might not be relevant to other members, or it may have already been discussed several times.

Learning is the key factor here, reading what others post, asking questions, not afraid to look silly as long as you learn.
Forum members, especially newer ones should understand that it's okay to not be very knowledgeable and it's okay to not make top tier posts and replies. What's not okay is if you're not learning or improving.

They are no difficulty in managing that which we can control, it's all over the web2 kind of internet, and one thing is under every creator's control  — post count. If done the right way with good and valuable pictures, write-ups, or videos the account builds, and the likes start coming in every day. The same applies to the forum. We can only control the post counts, and the result of our account growth depends on how well that which we can control is been managed. Think of the forum as another social media and apply the same method. Create good content and remain consistent from time to time. Most people post once a week or twice a week on social media even on their blog and maintained that frequency. I think if a person who wants to rank up in the forum is frequent with the number of times they visit the forum and make good quality content they will always strive, so far the content is quality.

Since we can't control the amount of merit a post is to get for us, then the right thing to do is worry about the one in your control if it can make good out of that which you can't control.